Thank you Kathy I appreciate the info very much I am still trying to knock down a brick wall. Can't find anything on Catherine ackerman and her Father Jacob Ackerman.Catherine bn abt 1806 supposedly married James Holladay bn 1792. Of that union My great Grandfather John Smiley Holladay was bn 1846 , the last son. I know somewhere there is someone with the information that I need. Out of the blue I will receive it. Thanks again Betty