The Rembert book is no longer considered an acceptable source by The Huguenot Society of South Carolina due to its many errors and lack of documentation. One major error occurs in the very first generation. ----- Original Message ----- From: <MarcijoM@aol.com> To: <SCSUMTER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, January 30, 2000 10:53 AM Subject: Re: [SCSUMTER-L] Rembert > If I remember correctly the Rembert's and the Michau's (many various > spellings of this name) are also connected. > > Marci-Jo Mishoe > Charleston, SC > MarcijoM@aol.com > > > ==== SCSUMTER Mailing List ==== > Rootsweb has a search engine available for its mailing lists. > If you don't know which list you'd like to search, check out the list > of lists hosted by RootsWeb at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~maillist/ > You can search the message archives of the SCSumter list at: > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > >

Dear Bob, Do not write me off the list of Laings of New Jesery. There might be a connection. I am in the process of working on these Laings. If you would like to share any info with me that could help both of us..... Regards, Nola Laing/Lang Barrett NMYLB@aol.com

In a message dated 1/30/00 11:51:26 AM Eastern Standard Time, melissab@cchat.com writes: << The Rembert book is no longer considered an acceptable source by The Huguenot Society of South Carolina due to its many errors and lack of documentation. One major error occurs in the very first generation. >> Melissa, I cannot speak to the Rembert book as I have never seen it, but as a scientist I can speak to investigation , experiments, and making use of data and research. I do not throw out all results because I have found a major error --even one in the beginning of an experiment, but I carefully examine the results obtained to see how or if the error has produced an effect. I have spent many, many hours redoing material I received from a respected professional genealogist regarding a Dutch line of mine. Very great errors were made in some early generations that caused havoc. I continued to find compounded errors throught the years. My initial reaction was to scrap all of his work. However, as the research has progressed, I keep referring back to his work and every now and then I glean a new clue which I can go after. There may be valuable material in the mess, i.e., the baby may still be in the bath water. I read his work with a jaundiced eye, but I DO read it. We all know that it was not the custom when genealogy was very popular in the 20's and 30's to attach documentation, but that doesn't invalidate the work that was done. When we sit down and interview Aunt Bess in her 90's and she rattles off generation after generation from a failing memory, she may make some terrible mistatkes confusing generations and families, but if we dismissed her out-of-hand instead of using her valuable contribution as a marvelous guide, we would never get anywhere. The exceptions to using flawed material as guides, of course, would be in the cases of known genealogical forgeries (and there are some famous ones) and these might be best dismissed or discredited by this Society or that. So, can you tell us what category the Rembert book fits in and what the specific objections of The Huguenot Society of South Carolina are. That would be a big help. Bob Robert Cooper Manning, Jr Atlanta rcmjr@aol.com rmanning@dhr.state.ga.us

Bill, He writes of Eliza in a general time frame of residences in Columbia so I cannot tell if it could be yours or not. "Mrs. Herring lived on the Northeast corner of Taylor and Assembly streets, where Henry McGowen now resides (this was in 1884 that he wrote this). She had one son and two beautiful daughters, the elder of whom, Eliza, married Dr.---- Green." Blanche

Kevin, His mention of Drayton was during and after the War of 1812 when he speaks of a General Blair who was so enormous in size he provoked challenges from lesser men. People were anxious at news of every victory over the British, but in the end many opposed nullificatiion of the treaty. " My remembrance of the big General closes with the statement that I saw him, William Drayton and ___ Mitchell, members of Congress, burnt in effigy by a mob in the Main Street of Columbia, in the days of Nullification, Blair being represented by a bale of hay with legs and feet attached. He occupied so much space in the public view that a lesser notice of him would have been unbecoming." Blanche

Blanche, Could you please send the information on HOPKINS family and also the HOPKINS - NIXON duel? Thanks, Debbi outlaw311@hotmail.com researching: OUTLAW, HOLLEY, HOPKINS ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

If I remember correctly the Rembert's and the Michau's (many various spellings of this name) are also connected. Marci-Jo Mishoe Charleston, SC MarcijoM@aol.com

In a message dated 1/30/00 10:35:51 AM Eastern Standard Time, NMYLB@aol.com writes: << I have most of the info on the Rembert Family that was included in the book "Remberts by way of South Carolina". Will be glad to share, if you or anyone is interested. Nola Laing/Lang Barrett NMYLB@aol.com >> Nola, I'm going to put you in my reference file. This Sumter List has been such a gold mine ( I have only been here a couple of weeks) that I'm going to have to regroup and prioritize. I will, however, write you off the list about your name - Laing - and any connections you might have with the Laings of New Jersey, 1680's on. Bob Robert C. Manning, Jr. Atlanta rcmjr@aol.com rmanning@dhr.state.ga.us

Dear Bob, Saw your post with the mention of the Rembert connection. I, also have a Rembert connection on the Barrett Family. I have most of the info on the Rembert Family that was included in the book "Remberts by way of South Carolina". Will be glad to share, if you or anyone is interested. Nola Laing/Lang Barrett NMYLB@aol.com

Cousin Ervin, I have found another connection: John DuBose and Judith Peyre. They are the grandparents of Elias DuBose who married Lydia Cassells (my line is Elias and yours is Joseph, but you have skipped a generation on Elias. He would be a nephew of your Joseph, not sibling.) The father of Elias is John DuBose II, the son of John DuBose I and Judith Peyre. Also, the death date you have for John DuBose I (1778) I have for John DuBose II. I don't have a date of death for John DuBose I. Both backward and forward from that point we seem to agree. At any rate, one of the children of Elias DuBose(1737-1789) who m. 2 Feb 1763 Lydia Cassells(1745-1806) was Mary DuBose(1774-1834). She married 13 Jan 1791 William Law II(1764-1812). These were the parents of Jane Law(1793-1817) mentioned in previous letters and posts who married 8 Aug 1816 George William Cooper(1817-1875). Someone in the family has kept up with the DuBose line since that time, but I will have to locate this information. I remember that I briefly dated an Elizabeth DuBose from this line when I was in college. She was staying for a period of time with a Presbyterian minister who was at NorthWest Presbyterian in Atlanta and my aunt (a member of this church) knew the family well and the connection. My aunt still lives (84 years old) in Atlanta, so perhaps, I can get her to relate the information to a now older and interested nephew. Bob Robert Cooper Manning, Jr Atlanta rcmjr@aol.com rmanning@dhr.state.ga.us

In a message dated 01/30/2000 9:01:32 AM Eastern Standard Time, Dixiekml@aol.com writes: << Bob-Saw your posting on your South Carolina families-Which Witherspoon Are you related to? I have a lot of info on some and would be glad to exchange info. Kevin Lasssen >> Greetings from SC. I also descend from John & Janet WITHERSPOON. URQ

In a message dated 1/30/00 9:01:29 AM Eastern Standard Time, Dixiekml@aol.com writes: << Which Witherspoon Are you related to? I have a lot of info on some and would be glad to exchange info. Kevin Lasssen >> Kevin, I have to go all the way back to 1st cousins John & Janet(Jennet) Witherspoon who married in 1695. Their daughter Elizabeth Witherspoon(1705-1750) married William James(1701-1750) and preceeded her parents (John & Janet) to South Carolina in 1732. John & Janet came in 1734 (Janet died early in the voyage and was buried at sea). The daughter of Elizabeth Witherspoon and William James in my line was Jane James who married in 1751 William Cooper. Of course there are many collateral connections since that time. There is great weaving in and out in the Witherspoon family. Bob Robert Cooper Manning, Jr Atlanta rcmjr@aol.com rmanning@dhr.state.ga.us

Ervin, While I still can't figure out what our Shaw relationship will be, I have found out from your web-site that we are 8th cousins through Andre Rembert and Anne Bressean. They are the parents of Marguerite Rembert who married Pierre Guerry, that I mentioned in my last post. I have noticed other names in scrolling through your family, e.g., Dubose, Brown, Hall, so we may be closer yet. Bob Bob Manning GA Public Health Laboratory 1749 Clairmont Rd Decatur, GA rmanning@dhr.state.ga.us 404 327-7996

Bob-Saw your posting on your South Carolina families-Which Witherspoon Are you related to? I have a lot of info on some and would be glad to exchange info. Kevin Lasssen

Blanche- Could you please tell me what your book says about William Drayton? You are an absolute angel to share so much with all of us> Thanks for all the interesting reading! Kevin Lassen

Gene, There isn't much, just a mention when Mr. Scott evidently collected taxes in the Lexington area at one time: "From Rambo's I went to Simon Redmond's on Bull Swamp, where the neighboring taxpayers, the Huttos, old John Hoover and others met me at night and paid their dues to the State, passing by Williamson's Mills, at the regimental muster ground, owned by Tommy Williamson, who furnished food, lodging and whiskey to all comers, and drinking all the time, was never exactly drunk, but just comfortably boozy." Blanche

------Begin forward message------------------------- From: wargreen@ix.netcom.com To: SCSUMTER-L@rootsweb Date: 01/29/00 18:24:47 Message-Id: <2000129182447718467@ix.netcom.com> Subject: "H" in SCOTT book X-Mailer: Netcomplete v4.0, from NETCOM On-Line Communications, Inc. Here are the "H" listings in the index of Scott's book: Hall (Ainsley, Mrs. Ainsley, George A., Jemmy, William A.), Hallman family, George Haltiwanger, Hamburg, South Carolina, Hamilton (Col. D.H., Gov. James), Hammond (Elisha, Gov. James Henry), Hampton (Wade, Col. Wade, Gen. Wade, Mrs. Wade III, Hampton family, Hampton St.), Dr. Hancock, Hane(Nicholas, Wolf), William E. Hardy, Harmon family, Harper (William, Mrs. William), Harris (Dr. B.F., Capt. William, William A.), Pres. Benjamin Harrison, Maj. Benjamin Hart, William Harth, Hart's Ferry, Tom Harvey, Haskell (Col. A.C., Col. J.C., Lt. L.C.), Levi Hawley, Hayne (Gov. Robert, Sara), Christopher Haynesworth, Mary Purvis Hanesworth, Rev. Ernest L. Hazelius, John H. Hiese, Mrs. Henderson, Henderson St., Henderson's Island, Dr. Robert Hendrick, Hendrix (David, Henry "Old Mike", J.Austin, Jacob, John, LeRoy, Patrick, S.N., Thomas), Henness family, Mrs. Hennies, Rev. Robert Henry, Alexander Herbemont, Nicholas Herbemont, Dr. Herndon, Mrs. Heron, Eliza Herring, Hill (Gen. A.P., N.B.), William Hilliard, William Hilligas, Hinkleite Branch Lutheran church, Hessians, Col. Heyward, Mrs. W.M. Hitchcock, Hitchcock Stable, Rev. Hodges, Hollow Creek, Holmes (Richard, Mrs. M.A.), Dr. Honour, Hood (Mr., Comptroller Gen'l., Gen. John Bell), John Hoover, Hopkins family, Hopkins - Nixon duel, L.F. Hopson, Howard (John, Gen. Oliver O.), Rev George Howe, Huffman damily, Huger (Alfred, Daniel E.), Hunt( Mrs. A.M., B.F., Capt, family, Hunt's Hotel), Tom Hurley, Hutchinson (Hiram, Thomas), Hutto family, Hyler family. Blanche ------End forward message---------------------------

Ervin and Betty - Thank you so much. I will check the site and order the book. Mary Ervin Shaw wrote: > Mary: You may want the vol. III cemetery surveys...check "Books For Sale" at > the Sumter Genealogy website http://www.geocities.com/scgs2000/Forsale.htm > Rev. William Moultrie Reid and his wife Margaret are buried at Mt. Zion > Presby. Ch. Cem. in Lee Co., SC Vol. III page 80 says she died at age 86, > 17 Dec. 1900. I presume that all gravestones prior to 1987 are copied and > published in this volume. > Ervin & Betty Shaw > poptop@usit.net Lexington, S. C. > my web site http://www.public.usit.net/poptop > photo at office http://www.lexmed.com/medical.htm > > ---------- > >From: Mary Anderson <eugenia1@home.com> > >To: SCSUMTER-L@rootsweb.com > >Subject: [SCSUMTER-L] William Moultrie Reid > >Date: Fri, Jan 28, 2000, 12:23 PM > > > > >I am trying to locate information about William Moultrie REID and his > >family. He was minister at Mount Zion Presbyterian Church, Sumter > >District , now Lee County, from ca. 1834 until 1872. In 1867 the > >congregation deeded a manse to him, where he lived until his death in > >1884. > >His family: > > > >Wife: Margaret GOLDING, born June 1814, died ? > >Children: > >James Merrick Reid b Jan 1836; m Anna Campbell REID; d ? > >Thomas Golding Reid b 1837; d ? > >George Harvey Reid b 7 Feb 1840; d 6 May 1922 Bishopsville, Lee Co, SC > >William Moultrie Reid b Jan 1842; m Adelaide M WILSON; d ?1877 > >Anne E Reid b ca. 1843; m ____ KELL; d ? > >Charlotte E Reid b Oct 1845, d ? > >Charles C Reid B Feb 1850, m Maria WALPOLE, d ? > >Mary W Reid b ca. 1852, m _______ CHANDLER, d ? > >Margaret Golding Reid b ca. 1856, d ? > > > >Thomas, George and William all served in Captain Garden's Palmetto Light > >Artillery Regiment. > > > >As you see I have many question marks. > > > >I have already looked at the obvious publications I can find, such as > >Howe's History of the Presbyterian Church; Nicholes' Historical Sketches > >of Sumter Co; US Census through 1920; Dedmont's Southern Bronze; the > >Sumter and Lee Co information at the Mormon Library. Does anyone know > >where the records of this church are located? Have the gravestones in > >this church's cemetery been copied and published? Where can I find the > >deed for the manse the congregation gave William Moultrie? > > > >Thanks, > > > >Mary Anderson > > > > > >==== SCSUMTER Mailing List ==== > >Rootsweb has a search engine available for its mailing lists. > >If you don't know which list you'd like to search, check out the list > >of lists hosted by RootsWeb at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~maillist/ > >You can search the message archives of the SCSumter list at: > >http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > > > > > ==== SCSUMTER Mailing List ==== > The Sumter County Genealogy Society is open Tuesday - Saturday 10:00-1:00 > and from 2:00 - 5:00. (Check for holiday closings.) (803) 773-9144 > The Genealogical and Historical Research Center is located at 219 West Liberty Street in Sumter. > The mailing address is P.O. Box 2543 Sumter, S.C. 29151. > Meetings are held every third Monday at 7:30 p.m. except during June,July, and August. > (The meetings are held at Swan Lake Presbyterian Church.)

Mary: You may want the vol. III cemetery surveys...check "Books For Sale" at the Sumter Genealogy website http://www.geocities.com/scgs2000/Forsale.htm Rev. William Moultrie Reid and his wife Margaret are buried at Mt. Zion Presby. Ch. Cem. in Lee Co., SC Vol. III page 80 says she died at age 86, 17 Dec. 1900. I presume that all gravestones prior to 1987 are copied and published in this volume. Ervin & Betty Shaw poptop@usit.net Lexington, S. C. my web site http://www.public.usit.net/poptop photo at office http://www.lexmed.com/medical.htm ---------- >From: Mary Anderson <eugenia1@home.com> >To: SCSUMTER-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [SCSUMTER-L] William Moultrie Reid >Date: Fri, Jan 28, 2000, 12:23 PM > >I am trying to locate information about William Moultrie REID and his >family. He was minister at Mount Zion Presbyterian Church, Sumter >District , now Lee County, from ca. 1834 until 1872. In 1867 the >congregation deeded a manse to him, where he lived until his death in >1884. >His family: > >Wife: Margaret GOLDING, born June 1814, died ? >Children: >James Merrick Reid b Jan 1836; m Anna Campbell REID; d ? >Thomas Golding Reid b 1837; d ? >George Harvey Reid b 7 Feb 1840; d 6 May 1922 Bishopsville, Lee Co, SC >William Moultrie Reid b Jan 1842; m Adelaide M WILSON; d ?1877 >Anne E Reid b ca. 1843; m ____ KELL; d ? >Charlotte E Reid b Oct 1845, d ? >Charles C Reid B Feb 1850, m Maria WALPOLE, d ? >Mary W Reid b ca. 1852, m _______ CHANDLER, d ? >Margaret Golding Reid b ca. 1856, d ? > >Thomas, George and William all served in Captain Garden's Palmetto Light >Artillery Regiment. > >As you see I have many question marks. > >I have already looked at the obvious publications I can find, such as >Howe's History of the Presbyterian Church; Nicholes' Historical Sketches >of Sumter Co; US Census through 1920; Dedmont's Southern Bronze; the >Sumter and Lee Co information at the Mormon Library. Does anyone know >where the records of this church are located? Have the gravestones in >this church's cemetery been copied and published? Where can I find the >deed for the manse the congregation gave William Moultrie? > >Thanks, > >Mary Anderson > > >==== SCSUMTER Mailing List ==== >Rootsweb has a search engine available for its mailing lists. >If you don't know which list you'd like to search, check out the list >of lists hosted by RootsWeb at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~maillist/ >You can search the message archives of the SCSumter list at: >http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > >

Blanche, Could you please cite the Hutto Family reference? Thanks so much. Regards, Gene