Thanks for the given name of Rev. Witherspoon. Are you related? How? Kay

Blanche, After your house guest are gone, will you be so kind as to tell me about what is in this book about the "LANG" family? Nola Laing/Lang Barrett

In a message dated 2/1/00 1:35:31 AM Eastern Standard Time, SCSUMTER-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: << From: Genewelch@aol.com To: SCSUMTER-L@rootsweb.com <<<< These were the parents of Jane Law(1793-1817) mentioned in previous letters and posts who married 8 Aug 1816 George William Cooper(1817-1875). >>>> Is there something wrong with the dates for George William Cooper born 1817? _________________________ Good observation!! I am so sorry.No, the dates are correct, the name is wrong. Jane Law m. 8 Aug 1816, George Cooper b. 3 Apr 1759, d. 20 Jul 1829. They are the parents of George William Cooper (1817-1875). Bob Robert C. Manning, Jr. Atlanta rcmjr@aol.com rmanning@dhr.state.ga.us

Thank you for ALL your postings. I look for them each day. Would you please give me the details in the book on General Joseph E. Johnston. Thank you so much. Linda J. Warren ---------- > From: wargreen@ix.netcom.com > To: SCSUMTER-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [SCSUMTER-L] "I", "J', and "K" in the Scott book > Date: Monday, January 31, 2000 2:17 PM > > Just a thought from me: Have any of you ever played the old > childhood game of "Gossip"? One person whispers something in the > next person's ear and so it goes around the table (or the room) > until it gets to the last person and he repeats it aloud. > > If you have then you know that very seldom does it come out in its > original form. We are all human and sometimes, for whatever reason > we substitute one word (or date or name) for another. We didn't > understand it correctly in the first place or we are so overwhelmed > with dates and names that we are anxious to repeat what we first > hear, maybe just to help someone else with a fact or story. > > As researchers we would like to be able to have proof of everything > we record but even the best falter there. > > The more we learn of the places and times in which our ancestors > and their families lived the more we really KNOW them. It is > ultimately not the exact names and dates that shaped their lives > nor will those facts alone, hopefully, shape the lives of our > descendents. ALL lives are living history. Cherish it!! > > > So much for the soap box---promise that is all you will hear. Now > for the "I" listings: > > Ice House, Indigo, Iron Works > > > 'J" listings: > > Jackson (General Andrew , General Thomas J.),Jacobs (David, Moses), > Judge James, J.C. Janney, Pres. Thomas Jefferson, Jenkins (Rev. > 'Old Bawling",General Micah, Major (Provost Marshall), Genral > William Jesse, Major John S. Jeter, Johnson(Gov. David, R.M., Rev. > William B.), Johnston (Algernon S., General Joseph E.), Job > Johnstone, Jones (Col.(Edgefirld Dist), Mrs. Hannah, Dr. Samuel, > William) > > "K" listings: > > Kaigler family, Roland Keenan, Kelly (D.Plymton, Mrs. D.P., > Frederick, Mrs. Jacob), Mr. Kennard, Kennedy family, Kennerly (Eli, > James, Joseph, Mrs. Joseph, Kennerly's ferry), E.H. Kerrison, > Kershaw (General Joseph B., Kershaw family), John Kibler, General > Hugh Kilpatrick, M.L. Kinard, Mary Kincaid, Kinsler (Col. Jeremiah, > Kinsler and McGregor), Alex Kirk, Mr. Kirsh. > > > > Blanche > > > > ==== SCSUMTER Mailing List ==== > Rootsweb has a search engine available for its mailing lists. > If you don't know which list you'd like to search, check out the list > of lists hosted by RootsWeb at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~maillist/ > You can search the message archives of the SCSumter list at: > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl

Robert Paisley also owned property on Lynches Creek running into Lynches Lake

Do you know the connection of Robert Paisley to these people?

Hello list... Several years ago, Horace Rudisill made and gave me a piece by piece land plat map that included the properties of (from memory) Samuel Ratliff, Jacob Chambers, Frances Alexander, and others. The actual location in the Bishopville area is what I'd like to know, and I'd like to see if anyone else can definitely place these properties. If it will help, Frances Alexander's land plat has a little of Black River flowing through it (late 1700s). Here's what the survey (1786) of the plat said: "I have caused to be (writing illegible) and laid out unto Frances Alexander, a tract of land containing one hundred and thirty acres situate in the District of Camden in Spring Branch waters of Lynches Creek and both such marks, buttings, and boundings as above plot represents. Certified for the 5th of December, 1786. - Ephraim Mitchell." Ring any bells? Any info would be appreciated. Val McGinness Alexander Researcher http://members.tripod.com/AlexanderFamily - --------------------------------------------- FREE! The World's Best Email Address @email.com Reserve your name now at http://www.email.com

Does the book make mention of any PAISLEYS?

Are you related to PAISLEYS? I read in some of my research that the PAISLEYS were connected to the WITHERSPOONS. Name is also spelled PASLAY

Sammy Swamp Seeker, Sammy Swamp loops around Paxville, Clarendon County, SC. Paxville is located at the intersection of US 15 and Secondary 261. Sammy Swamp empties into the Pocotaligo River and then into the Black River. Nelson McLeod

Rcmjr@aol.com wrote: > > In a message dated 1/30/00 9:34:54 PM Eastern Standard Time, > Genewelch@aol.com writes: > > << James Alexander Witherspoon married Lucy Welch c1634 to 1640. Lucy was > the > daughter of Elizabeth Knox and John Welsh of Ayr. > >> > Wonderful! This is the first I have seen of this. Where did you get a name > other than "The Rev. Mr. Wotherspoon(Witherspoon)"? > > Robert Cooper Manning, Jr > Atlanta > rcmjr@aol.com > rmanning@dhr.state.ga.us > > ==== SCSUMTER Mailing List ==== > Rootsweb has a search engine available for its mailing lists. > If you don't know which list you'd like to search, check out the list > of lists hosted by RootsWeb at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~maillist/ > You can search the message archives of the SCSumter list at: > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl The Lucy Welch marriage to Rev. Witherspoon and that of Elizabeth Knox to Rev. John Welsh is in the Witherspoon genealogy by Wardlaw.

Debbie, Did your OUTLAW marry into BAKER & SCOTT?

Blanche, Thanks so much for your time. I will save it in hopes it will help, even in the least little bit. Debbi outlaw311@hotmail.com researching: OUTLAW, HOLLEY, HOPKINS Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 17:56:44 -0500 (EST) > >Debbi, > >There is not much on the Hopkins family as such. Scott's reference >is to the husband of a Miss Scott in Columbia.SC...don't know >whether it is pertinent to your family research but here it is: > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

Just a thought from me: Have any of you ever played the old childhood game of "Gossip"? One person whispers something in the next person's ear and so it goes around the table (or the room) until it gets to the last person and he repeats it aloud. If you have then you know that very seldom does it come out in its original form. We are all human and sometimes, for whatever reason we substitute one word (or date or name) for another. We didn't understand it correctly in the first place or we are so overwhelmed with dates and names that we are anxious to repeat what we first hear, maybe just to help someone else with a fact or story. As researchers we would like to be able to have proof of everything we record but even the best falter there. The more we learn of the places and times in which our ancestors and their families lived the more we really KNOW them. It is ultimately not the exact names and dates that shaped their lives nor will those facts alone, hopefully, shape the lives of our descendents. ALL lives are living history. Cherish it!! So much for the soap box---promise that is all you will hear. Now for the "I" listings: Ice House, Indigo, Iron Works 'J" listings: Jackson (General Andrew , General Thomas J.),Jacobs (David, Moses), Judge James, J.C. Janney, Pres. Thomas Jefferson, Jenkins (Rev. 'Old Bawling",General Micah, Major (Provost Marshall), Genral William Jesse, Major John S. Jeter, Johnson(Gov. David, R.M., Rev. William B.), Johnston (Algernon S., General Joseph E.), Job Johnstone, Jones (Col.(Edgefirld Dist), Mrs. Hannah, Dr. Samuel, William) "K" listings: Kaigler family, Roland Keenan, Kelly (D.Plymton, Mrs. D.P., Frederick, Mrs. Jacob), Mr. Kennard, Kennedy family, Kennerly (Eli, James, Joseph, Mrs. Joseph, Kennerly's ferry), E.H. Kerrison, Kershaw (General Joseph B., Kershaw family), John Kibler, General Hugh Kilpatrick, M.L. Kinard, Mary Kincaid, Kinsler (Col. Jeremiah, Kinsler and McGregor), Alex Kirk, Mr. Kirsh. Blanche

Hi Bob/Ervin, Bob and I have corresponded about our Coopers before. I descend from two of William Cooper's siblings, Isabella (Cooper) McCutcheon and James Cooper. The ealiest Cooper info that I have is a petition by George Cooper for his mother and siblings: "Petitions For Land From South Carolina Council Journals," Vol. I:1734-1748, pp.267-268 Read the Petition of GEORGE COOPER humbly Shewing that the Pet'rs father ADAM COOPER upon his arrival into this Province with his Family in the year 1737 obtained a warrant for the survey for 450 acres of land in any of the northern Townships dated Feb'ry 8th 1737, which warrant by neglect of the survey'r was never executed, as y'r pet'rs father is since dead, he therefore as Eldest son and Heir prays his Excell'cy and Honours upon his surrender of the aforesaid Township warrant herewith surrendered, to order a Common warrant for y'e survey of 450 acres on the north side of Black Mingo Creek, bounding on or near the plantation of HUGH MCCUTCHEN, and that a Grant may be passed for the same to the Petitioner. To this was annexed the warrant mentioned, whereupon y'e Pet'r appearing..... it was ordered that 450 acres be granted to the Pet'r viz 100 acres for himself, and 350 acres in Trust for his mother JANE RUTLEDGE & his brothers WILLIAM COOPER, JAMES COOPER, THOS COOPER, SAMUEL COOPER and his sisters ISABEL COOPER and MARY COOPER each 50 acres... James COOPER married Martha STRAIN, daughter of Adam and Margaret STRAIN and my Isabella (Cooper) McCUTCHEON was married to Hugh McCUTCHEON. Some new information indicates that Hugh McCutcheon and Adam Strain were first granted land in the Camden area. >From "Ouakers in South Carolina" by Rev. Silas E. Lucas, Jr. "February 8, 1737, on which date a group of families abtained precepts for land in Fredricksburg Township. Fifty acres being allotted for each member of the family, the number of individuals may be inferred from the number of acres granted to the head. The following may therefore be cited as the original prospectors of Camden: * Adam Strain, 200ac, 4 in family *David Alexander, 100ac, 2 in family *James McGowan, 300ac, 6 in family *Hugh McCutchin, 100ac, 2 in family *Michael Harris, 50ac, 1 in family *William Seawright, 250ac, 5 in family Robert Seawright, 50ac, 1 in family The unnamed family, mentioned in the Council Journal of 1736 as murdered by the Indians on Pine Tree Creek, belonged, no doubt to this little colony. We can but marvel at their hardihood in bringing wives and children into such surroundings. Of these seven families, William Seawright and Robert Seawright settled in Belmont Neck, just south of Mulberry; Hugh McCutchin, Michael Harris, and James McGowen about seven miles southeast of Camden, on waters of Swift Creek; Adam Strain and David Alexander cannot be precisely located, but were probably within hailing distance of some of the others." (end quote) I don't know what sources Rev. Lucas used, but below is some information on Adam Strain in Fredericksburg Township. >From "South Carolina Deed Abstracts, vol 3" by Clara Langley: Book W-W, page 14, 22 & 23 April 1757, L & R (Lease & Release?) Adam (his mark) Strain, planter of Craven Co., and Margaret (her mark) his wife, to Samuel Scott, planter, of Fredericksburg Township, Craven Co., for L200 currency, 200 acres in Fredericksburg Township, bounding SW on Wateree River; NW on Robert Stuart; other side on vacant lands. Witnesses: John Scott, Samuel Burrows, William Scott. Before John Liviston, J.P. William Hopton, Register. Book W-W, page 18, 14 & 15 November, 1758, L & R Samuel (his mark) Scott, trader, to Lt. James Adamson, for L250 currency, 200ac in Craven Co., in Fredericksburg Township, on N side Wateree River, bounding on all other sides on Vacant land; which 200ac were granted 10 Feb. 1749 by Gov. James Glen to Adam Strain (Secretary's Book E.E. fol. 314); who sold to Samuel Scott on 23 Apr. 1757. Witnesses: Timothy Kelly, Joseph Kershaw. Before Samuel Wyly, J.P. William Hopton, Register. >From "Petitions for Land from SC Council Journals, vol 4" Page 114: The petition of Adam Stran humbly setting forth That he had four Negroes for whom he never had any Warrant of Survey of Grant of Land in this Province, That there was a tract of 200 ac of land in Craven County (bounding to the eastward of Lands belonging to Jno Peter Summerhoof) vacant, prayed to lay out two hundred acres of land situated and bounded as aforesaid and that he might have a Grant for the same. Dated Febry 2d 1756. Adam Stran (A). The prayer thereof was granted. In the will of Adam Strain of Craven County, written 14 Feb 1761. He names his Grandsons James Cooper, granddaughters Janet Cooper and Margaret Cooper, Grandson Hugh Strain Winter, Sons in law Hugh Winter and James Cooper, and wife Margaret. Executors are wife Margaret, John Liviston Esqr., Samuel Cooper, Robert Winter and Robert Pettycrew (Pettique?). Witnesses are Thomas Scott, William Scott and Rebekah Chappel. It was proved 29 March 1762. Margaret Strain's will is dated 23 Sep 1774, Prince Fredericks Parish, Craven County. She names grandson James Cooper, granddaughter Margaret Cooper, nephew John Boyd, "my Nices two children...Moses and Isabel Scott and grandchildren Hugh Strane Winter, James Cooper, Margaret Cooper and Jannet Graham. Legacies to be give at their marriages or when they arrive at the age of 21. Execs Robert Dick, Robert Petticrue & John Boyd. Witnesses Robert Paisley and Isabel McCutchen. No date of proof, but the Exors qualified Oct 20, 1774. James Cooper will, Prince Fredrick Parish in Craven County, dated 6 June 1771. He names wife Martha, daughter Ann Cooper, "my four young children Ann, Joseph, Adam and William Cooper. Eldest son James Cooper, two sons Joseph and Adam Cooper, daughter Janet Cooper and . Appoint Samuel Cooper my brother, Martha Cooper my wife, Joseph Michie and Robert Paisley to be exectutors. Witnesses: William Cooper; James McCutchen; Joseph McCutchen. Donna

In a message dated 01/30/2000 10:30:00 AM Eastern Standard Time, Rcmjr@aol.com writes: << At any rate, one of the children of Elias DuBose(1737-1789) who m. 2 Feb 1763 Lydia Cassells(1745-1806) was Mary DuBose(1774-1834). She married 13 Jan 1791 William Law II(1764-1812). These were the parents of Jane Law(1793-1817) mentioned in previous letters and posts who married 8 Aug 1816 George William Cooper(1817-1875). >> Is there something wrong with the dates for George William Cooper born 1817?

In a message dated 1/31/00 9:26:09 AM Eastern Standard Time, Genewelch@aol.com writes: << I have never been able to verify a conclusion on the authenticity of the John Knox claims but never able to disprove the claims so I continue to maintain a chart back to Robert de Bruce, Lord of Annadale (Dumfrieshire) for family members who like a detailed pedigree chart prior to 1680s when the Welches arrived in SC >> I think most of us do likewise. When I was a teenager, this was the most exciting part of all of this. Now, I thrill more to finding current, very distant cousins and old homeplaces around the country. Robert C. Manning, Jr. Atlanta rcmjr@aol.com rmanning@dhr.state.ga.us

Anyone that has taken the time to read this book "Remberts by way of South Carolina" would understand the hours it took to compile the information. Just typing alone would take many many hours. I, for one am grateful to these two people. I have found a number of errors, just in the Barrett Family. I use this info as clues, the same as any other information. Errors can be found in all type of genealogical info, including census, etc. I will continue to impute this info in my Rembert Family File and try and fine the supporting documentation, but I will not dismiss all of it just because there happens to be a few errors. Nola Ling/Lang Barrett

Bob, I'll consider checking in my filing cabinet for documentation on verification of the name--a dreaded experience but will undertake this adventure when I get up the nerve. It's likely that I pulled this name from the Wardlaw, Ervin or Sims searches but it's been years since I looked at the material which was prior to my first computer in 1989. You probably know that the Witherspoons have a written genealogy on the John Knox alliance that dates some 300 years. I think it was Thomas Walker, a well-known Scottish ecclesiastical writer and brother to Ann Walker Witherspoon, that first wrote of the Knox-Witherspoon connection. From my research, the Welches of SC have this link as a family tradition since around 1762. I have never been able to verify a conclusion on the authenticity of the John Knox claims but never able to disprove the claims so I continue to maintain a chart back to Robert de Bruce, Lord of Annadale (Dumfrieshire) for family members who like a detailed pedigree chart prior to 1680s when the Welches arrived in SC Regards, Gene

In a message dated 1/30/00 9:34:54 PM Eastern Standard Time, Genewelch@aol.com writes: << James Alexander Witherspoon married Lucy Welch c1634 to 1640. Lucy was the daughter of Elizabeth Knox and John Welsh of Ayr. >> Wonderful! This is the first I have seen of this. Where did you get a name other than "The Rev. Mr. Wotherspoon(Witherspoon)"? Robert Cooper Manning, Jr Atlanta rcmjr@aol.com rmanning@dhr.state.ga.us