At 07:58 AM 2/9/00 -0500, you wrote: >Kathy: > >I would love to have a contact with anyone who has information on the >history of Andrews Chapel (United) Methodist Church in Clarendon County. > >I have visited the place several times -- always on a weekday, when no one >else was in sight -- and note that the building and grounds are always >well-kept, so the church is still active. However, I do not know anything >of the history of this church. > >Thank you for any information you can give me. > >Judith Reesor Hutchinson > Contact the South Carolina Conference of the United MEthodist Church and they will give you direction. I also have Betts History of SC Methodism and will look in it. Bill Simpson

At 07:58 AM 2/9/00 -0500, you wrote: >Bill: > >I have seen the graves of the George Rowe Jones family at Andrews Chapel. >However, I do not know if these Joneses are any kin to my Jones. > >My gg-grandfather was James L. Jones, b. about 1808 in South Carolina, >according to the censuses. He m. Caroline Rich, daughter of Charles Rich >(ne Charles Poinsett Richardson) of the Bloom Hill Plantation in what is >now Sumter County. > >I have absolutely no information on James L. Jones, other that what I found >in the census an something in the Clarendon County Archives that indicated >he was a Methodist and attended a conference in Andrews Chapel in 1864. I >would love to have any more information on him and his family connections >-- siblings, parents, etc. > >Judith Reesor Hutchinson Dear Judith, George Rowe Jones was b. 21 Feb 1843 and d. 16 Nov. 11 in Clarendon Co. SC. He is buried at Andrews Chapel. His parents were Lewis Mayrant Jones, b. 18 Jul 1814 and d. 2 Jun 1891, and Elizabeth Catherine Rowe. He married Adelaide Maria Graham, b. 24 Apr 1845 in Sumter Co., SC and d. 21 Jul 1927, Clarendon Co. She is buried at Andrews Chapel. Her parents were John Christopher Graham (1791-1865) buried at Rehobeth Church, Clarendon Co., SC (son of Narcissus Graham and Unity Gayle), and Rebecca Stukes (1803-1 Nov 1884) b. Rehobeth Church. I hope this helps. Bill Simpson

And also many slaves it seems took the surname of the person who owned them when they were born - even though they might have had other owners since - Carol York J.C.R. Hutchinson wrote: > > Actually, many ex-slaves _did_ take their former owners' surnames. > Sometimes, if they did not know what surname to take, the (white) people > recording their information just assigned them their former owners' names. > And sometimes a female ex-slave would take a different surname from that of > her husband, even though they were legally married. > > Look at the census records for the area and see how many surnames were > shared by both black and white families in the same area. In the 1880 > census of Williamsburg County, I ran across a man who had both his white > family and his mixed family all living under the same roof. The mother of > the mulatto children were listed at the man's concubine. > > Judith Reesor Hutchinson > > ==== SCSUMTER Mailing List ==== > To unsubcribe from the SCSumter mailing list send a one word message, unsubscribe to: > SCSumter-L-Request@rootsweb > If you are subscribed to the Digest mode send your unsubcribe message to: > SCSumter-D-request@rootsweb.com

Hello, again, fellow listers, My company left yesterday so here I go again. Listed below are the entries in Edwin J. Scott's book beginning with "M". If you would like for me to quote what he writes of any of the listings just let me know - bearing in mind that sometimes he VERY briefly mentions a name or place. "M" listings in index: Mabuse family, Macfie (James, James,Jr., Mary Jane), Gov. A.G. Magrath, Mail, Main Street, Mrs. Malone, Malone's Spring, Manchester, S.C., Rev Basil Manly, Spencer Mann, Manning (Charles, Gov. Richard L., Gov. John L., "Black Luke"), Marion Street, Market, Marks (Alex, Dr. Elias), Marshall (Edward W., John F., Lawrence R., Tom), Martin (Cage, James, W.M., Rev. William, W.E.), Major Matthias, Maxcy (Ezek, Hart, Dr. Jonathan), Maybin (Col. William, Col.Adam), Mayer (Dr. O.B., Mrs. O.B., Mayer family), Mayrant (John, Family, orchard), J.J. McCarter, C.F. McCay, McCollum (drowned), McCord (David J., Mrs. David), Col. McCorkle, Charles McCullough, McCully (Frank, John), D.P. McDonald, Mr. McDowell, Gov. George McDuffie, McGowan (Mrs. Elizabeth, Henry, McGowan's Ferry, Mitchell), McGregor (McGregor and Kinsler, Mrs. McGregor, McGregor's drug store), Peter McGuire, John McIver, McKnight's Stables, McKenzie (James, John, McKenzie's Confectionery), John McKinne, McLaughlin (Andrew, B.L.), McLean (Hugh, John), John McLemore, J.S. McMahon, Col. Fitz William McMaster, McRae family, McRae's Mill, Col. William McWillie, Means (Mrs. Claudia, Mrs. David, Rev. Robert), medicine, Joel Medlin, Meetze (Felix, Henry, Jacob, John, Rev. Yost, Meetze family, Meetze's Tavern), Judge Melton, "Memoirs of a Nullifier", Methodist Church, Methodist Church (Lexington), Mexican War, Militia, Miller( Miller family, Billy, Stephen D., Thomas ), Miot (Dr.C.H., Mrs. Charles H.), Mitchell (Abram, William B., Mitchell and Hood), Mixed Commission of American and british Claims, Monteith (Ainsley H., Galloway, W.S., William), Moore Family, Mordicai (I.D., M.C.), Morgan (Daniel, I.C., Morgan and Guiry's Book Store), Henry Moss, Muldrow (Matthew E., Sam), Dr. Muckenfuss, Muller (Henry, Washington), Muster ground (Lexington), Col. David Myers, William M.Myers Blanche

I am reseaching a family that took the last name WHEELER and one of the brother took his slave owner last name LACOSTE. I thought that was really strange. Sandy HUDSON,WHEELER,WILSON

Actually, many ex-slaves _did_ take their former owners' surnames. Sometimes, if they did not know what surname to take, the (white) people recording their information just assigned them their former owners' names. And sometimes a female ex-slave would take a different surname from that of her husband, even though they were legally married. Look at the census records for the area and see how many surnames were shared by both black and white families in the same area. In the 1880 census of Williamsburg County, I ran across a man who had both his white family and his mixed family all living under the same roof. The mother of the mulatto children were listed at the man's concubine. Judith Reesor Hutchinson

Kevin: >From the 1860 and 1870 censuses, my gg-grandparents, Caroline Rich and James L. Jones, lived in the Friendship Township of Clarendon County, Manning Post Office. Since I found the record that James L. Jones was a class leader and attended a conference at Andrews Chapel Methodist Church in 1864, I assume he lived close by. His youngest daughter, my ggrandmother, is buried in the cemetery there. Also, there is a James H. Jones -- no dates or family information listed, but his CSA unit is noted in his gravestone -- who is also buried in that cemetery, a few feet away from my ggrandmother. Caroline and James L Jones had a son named James H. Jones who would have been old enough to have been a Confederate soldier. All of the information above lead me to believe that Caroline and James L. lived near this church, and may be buried in unmarked graves there. I haven't measured it, but I believe there is enough space between my ggrandmother's grave and that of James H. Jones to hold at least two unmarked graves. If Caroline and James H. were the last of the family to die in that area, it is quite possible that there was no family member left alive nearby to put up a gravestone for them. Let me know if you find anything new. Judith

Bill: I have seen the graves of the George Rowe Jones family at Andrews Chapel. However, I do not know if these Joneses are any kin to my Jones. My gg-grandfather was James L. Jones, b. about 1808 in South Carolina, according to the censuses. He m. Caroline Rich, daughter of Charles Rich (ne Charles Poinsett Richardson) of the Bloom Hill Plantation in what is now Sumter County. I have absolutely no information on James L. Jones, other that what I found in the census an something in the Clarendon County Archives that indicated he was a Methodist and attended a conference in Andrews Chapel in 1864. I would love to have any more information on him and his family connections -- siblings, parents, etc. Judith Reesor Hutchinson

Kathy: I would love to have a contact with anyone who has information on the history of Andrews Chapel (United) Methodist Church in Clarendon County. I have visited the place several times -- always on a weekday, when no one else was in sight -- and note that the building and grounds are always well-kept, so the church is still active. However, I do not know anything of the history of this church. Thank you for any information you can give me. Judith Reesor Hutchinson

Hi folks, I just came from my monthly computer club meeting, which my friend, and a fellow list member, happens to attend also. She was one of the first to get my book, and promised to look for typos for me. I knew that there would be some, but until I talked to Jackie tonight, I hadn't thought about something, that I know that ya'll wouldn't know about because most of you haven't been involved in the transcriptions of old newspapers. I guess that since I have been doing this for over 2 years, that it just didn't cross my mind to mention in the front of the book that writing styles have changed in our lifetimes. (Actually longer than 2 years, if you count how long I have been reading them and didn't have the idea of transcribing, more like 4 or 5 years reading them.) Thanks go out to Jackie for pointing something out to me. I just should have thought to put a notice in the book that words like church, cemetery, street, avenue, hospital, etc. were not capitalized in the old newspapers. They appear without a capital letter. I don't know when the style changed, I think that it would be an interesting thing to find some research information about when the rules changed. Even papers in the 1950s have things like, "Green street" and not "Green Street" as we would write it. The further you go back in time, the stranger the capitalization (as compared to our modern day times) gets. Words like, Funeral Services or Family and Friends would be capitalized, but Browntown funeral home, would not be. First baptist church might be written as I just did or as First Baptist church. However you see it in my book. 99 times out of 100, I didn't really make a typo with the capitalization. Tuomey hospital would have been standard for way back when, while Tuomey Hospital (it's new name something like Tuomey Medical Center) is the present day correct form. It's funny. I have gone through Dee's book and she though mine, and of course neither of us commented to one another about the odd capitalization rules our ancestors must have had. We both have been through so many old newspapers, that we don't see it as odd anymore. It's just how it was. Old wills and documents are like that too. The oddest words in the middle of a sentence will suddenly be capitalized. I am going to pay attention and see if I can figure out when the rules changed. Have a great week. Cindy Sumter, S.C. P.S. Sorry not to think to mention it at the front of the book. I will do so in the next edition.

I recently found a map at the GA Archives. The map was published in 1780 and is known as the "Stuart-DeBrahm Map" of South Carolina and Georgia. The details are similar to the "Mills Atlas" except that it shows fewer families. My interest in it was that it showed a Dennis Tavern in the location that the 1825 Mills Atlas shows HDennis. The area is approx. the southern most part of the High Hills. I reseach a Dennis family that probate records place connect to that exact area. My question is does anyone have any idea if taverns liscenses where need in the time around 1780 and where would I look. Thanks for any help. David Dennis David Dennis, Proud Rootsweb Donor

Can we get a copy of map from Internet? Betty

Hello! I am new to this list and I am looking for info on James "Jim" Jackson Meadows. He was born in Sumter County in 1816, moved to Fairfield County and then to Florida. I have just started the research on him outside of Florida. Any help is greatly appreciated! Thank you, Nicole BArnes n.barnes@mindspring.com

Are there any Sumter County Marriages recorded before 1830, My Crofts (spelled with the "S") line were of the Methodist faith. Would there be any Methodist Church or cemetery records for that time period. Thank You, Edith Croft Ward

Ervin, Ah, I recognize my friend, Tarsha's, query. She and I work together at Alice Drive Middle School. I have recently posted a picture and a bit of info. about a Sumter native and how his family decided on their surname after emancipation. You will find it on the Sumter photo page. Cindy

Dear Sumter List: I was delighted to be the private recipient of the following querry, and I offered the best response I knew of back privately. Then it occurred to me that we descendants of slaves and slave owners need to do some genealogy "talking". For instance, I am fascinated with the my mother and father's families mixed. If we could get over the differences that the structure of segregation maintained [and, "no", I don't want to "go back"], I believe that there are very interesting things to record. For example, I believe that my daddy had 3 emotional "mothers". His biological mother got sick...and, over a 2 year period, financially drained and "lost the farm"...and died in 1921 when Daddy was 9 years. "Aunt Sally" White helped raise the 2 boys during those two years and for many thereafter as their father was in the automobile business and on the road back and forth to Detroit. Then by 1923, the boys had a wonderful step-mother. "Aunt Sally" was a black lady who was also a resident of the Shaw's Crossroads area of Sumter County. I met in May '99 with Daddy's first cousins who also grew up out "at the crossroads". I found out an amazing admixture of white and black neighbors. Because of "political correctness", I'm afraid that THE TRUTH of the positive ways of how white and black neighbors coped together with emancipation, reconstruction, and segregation will all be drowned out by the namecalling & denounciations from both races and by the stories of all of the bad stuff. I had heard all of my life that the slaves emancipated often took the owner's last names; then I read the autobiography of George Washington Carver which indicated that the DID NOT take owner's names. May this post stimulate more stories of "togetherness stories" of white/black coping and inter-racial rules and customs. I'd love to collect stuff on the topic and organize it in my website one day! Anyhow: The Querry: hello ervin, i came across you information on the cooper line that lead to the mccutchen family from williamsburg dist. for the past 4 years i've been searching for wills ofthe mccuthen family that list slaves. on an tax returned that i found at the archives 1866, list about eight black males including my ggg grandfather Harrison Smith and a brother George. would you have any wills that included an inventory of slaves divded among the family members at the time of death? looking for any wills that may connect me with my gggg grandmother. even if the cooper family's wills can be located that required information is would help. I send a few names that come up in a possible will. My Response: I don't have any Cooper wills. But, over the 30+ years I've been doing this hobby, I've noticed that the Probate Court files on a deceased might contain other papers naming slaves. For example, if the estate had a will but was not closed out for several years, the annual return report might mention any slaves either sold or transferred to an heir since the owner's death. Another example: if owner dies without a will (intestate), the court-ordered estate inventory might list the slaves by name. Even in an owner's death with a will, where the will was written years before, the estate inventory might more correctly and currently (a boy of a slave may have become a man-slave in the interval and be actually named) list the slaves by name. It would pay to make a visit to the county courthouse where the suspected slave-owner died and personally go thru the Probate Court "bundles" (or microfilms of same). I suspect that almost none of that type material is "on line". You could probably do it in one or two good, solid days of work. GOOD LUCK!! Ervin Shaw poptop@usit.net Lexington, S. C. my web site http://www.public.usit.net/poptop photo at office http://www.lexmed.com/medical.htm

I noticed the two different names...McCutchin and Smith ....you may want to check wills from both surnames for the time periond in question.....could be your smith was originally owned by the Smith family and when the estate was divided ownership shifted to a married daughter....or possibly had been sold to settle the estate.....just a thought......

Hello Ervin, Tried to send this to you privately, but it came back as undeliverable at this time. Here is my connection to Isabella Cooper and her brother James. This is a tangled line, so let me know if it gets too confusing. Donna 1)Adam STRAIN d.1762 Williamsburg Dist., SC + Margaret (?) 2)Margaret STRAIN +Hugh WINTER 2) Martha STRAIN + James COOPER d. 1771 Williamsburg Dist., SC (son of Adam and Jane (?) COOPER) 3)James COOPER 3)Joseph COOPER 3)Adam COOPER 3)William COOPER 3)Ann COOPER 3)Margaret COOPER 3)Janet (Gennet) COOPER d. 17 Oct 1802 +1st William GRAHAM b. 1740 PA, d. 7 Sept 1779 m. 01 Dec 1773 Williamsburg Dist, SC +2nd John McCallister Sr., d. 1809 4)John McAllister, Jr. *** see below +Penelope Fitzpatrick 5) Penelope McAllister +William James Cameron 6)Margaret Melissa Cameron +George R. Matthews 7)Newhell Latson Matthews +Minnie Graham 8)Mary Jane Beulah Matthews +William Russell Powers (great grandparents) 1) Adam COOPER + Jane (Rutledge) -note: I don't know if Rutledge was Jane's maiden name, or if she remarried after Adam's death 2) William Cooper + Jane James 2) James Cooper + Martha Strain 2) Thomas Cooper 2) Samuel Cooper 2) Mary Cooper 2) Isabella Cooper + Hugh McCutcheon d. bef 1769 3) James MCCUTCHEN [son of 1)Hugh and Isabella] b.1752, d.1820 + Mary MCBANS + Sara GRAHAM 4)William MCCUTCHEN b. abt 1773, d. 1845 in Williamsburg, Lake City, SC + Martha Cassels 4) Isabel MCCUTCHEN b. abt 1774, d. aft 1850 in Williamsburg Co., SC + Bryant MCCLAM (son of Solomon McClam) 4) Sara MCCUTCHEN b. 1774 in NC (according to Williamsburg,SC 1850 census) d. aft 1850 in Williamsburg Co.,SC + Bryant CAMERON b. 1778 in NC(same census ) d. aft 1850 in Willliamsburg Co. 5)Sara Cameron 5) Henry Cameron b. c1798 in NC + Margaret Gibson (dau. of James GIBSON d. c1825) 5)William Jackson Cameron b.23 DEC 1817 +Sara Ann Scott (dau. of Charles and Sevil (Graham) SCOTT) 5) William James Cameron + Penelope McAllister (dau. of John McAllister, Jr. & Penelope Fitzpatrick) 4) George Cooper MCCUTCHEN b. 1790, d. 1838 in Williamsburg Co., SC + Cecelia CAMERON 3) George MCCUTCHEN [son of 1)Hugh and Isabella] b.1754, d. 26 Nov 1826 Indiantown, Williamsburg Co.,SC + 1st. Mary SCOTT b.1750, d.5 Apr 1794 Craven Co. SC, m. 1777 + 2nd. Martha MCCULLOUGH 4)Hugh MCCUTCHEN b.1781, d.12 Aug 1847 Indiantown, Williamsburg Co.,SC +Elizabeth ERVIN 4)William MCCUTCHEN +Martha ANDERSON 4)Thomas MCCUTCHEN +Agnes MCCOTTRY 4)Jeanette MCCUTCHEN +George BARR 4)George MCCUTCHEN 3) Jane MCCUTCHEN +Alexander MCKNIGHT 4) Alexander MCKNIGHT +Jane GOTEA b.7 Mar 1776 in SC, d. 17 Jul 1848 in SC 3) Eleanor (Elender) MCCUTCHEN +1st.John GOTEA (GAUTIER) +2nd. John GIBSON 4)John GOTEA(GAUTIER) b. 1782 +Elizabeth SCOTT b. 6 May 1790, d. 27 Oct 1851, Williamsburg Co. SC 4)James GOTEA(GAUTIER) 4)Jane GOTEA(GAUTIER) b.7 Mar 1776 in SC, d. 17 Jul 1848 in SC +Alexander McKNIGHT (above) Ervin Shaw wrote: > > Donna: I've put the info into my computer from your 1/31 post to Sumter > List, Hi Bob/Ervin. I have Bob linked in as of this weekend just past. Can > you give me your connection to Isabella or James Cooper or both? I'm in a > burst of activity adding to my 3000+ name base which I want to soon upload > as additions and corrections to the genealogy on my website. I'd like to > have your connection in it. Thanks! > Ervin Shaw > poptop@usit.net Lexington, S. C. > my web site http://www.public.usit.net/poptop > photo at office http://www.lexmed.com/medical.htm

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