Jackie, I have the information on some of Elsie's parents and siblings. I don't have any info on Elsie and her husband Joseph Pack's children. I would really like to locate that family of Packs. I can give you information on Joseph Pack's family if you are interested. Just let me know. Here is what I have on Elsie's parents. I may have sent this out already. I don't remember. Lonne Descendants of Jesse Nettles, Sr. 1 Jesse Nettles, Sr. b: June 04, 1745 in Of VA d: February 13, 1825 . +Ann Stroud b: November 30, 1755 d: June 25, 1820 2 Josiah Nettles b: July 29, 1770 2 Winnefred Nettles b: March 29, 1773 d: March 30, 1820 .... +Peter Edheah Brunson b: Bet. 1766 - 1775 d: Bef. October 03, 1836 .. 3 Manning D. Brunson b: 1793 in SC d: September 1855 ...... +Epsey A. Richardson b: 1799 d: 1861 .. 3 Leonard E. Brunson b: Abt. 1794 in SC ...... +Rebecca E. ??? .. 3 Jared N(elson?) Brunson b: Bet. 1795 - 1801 ...... +Mary Jordan .. 3 [1] Lawrence M. Brunson b: Abt. 1797 in SC ...... +Unknown Wife .. *2nd Wife of [1] Lawrence M. Brunson: ...... +Kiziah ??? .. 3 Martha Demaris Brunson b: Bet. 1800 - 1810 d: Bef. 1850 ...... +William B. Hodge b: June 09, 1793 in Sumter District, SC d: Bet. 1850 - 1860 .. 3 Harvey P. Brunson b: January 22, 1801 d: April 11, 1855 ...... +Martha Elizabeth White .. 3 [2] William Hezekiah Brunson b: October 03, 1803 d: May 02, 1874 ...... +Christiana Pringle .. *2nd Wife of [2] William Hezekiah Brunson: ...... +Mary J. ??? .. 3 Emily M. Brunson b: August 30, 1813 in Sumter District, SC d: May 30, 1864 in Montgomery Co., AL ...... +Burrell B. McElvin b: January 01, 1803 in Sumter District, SC d: January 10, 1880 in Montgomery Co., AL .. 3 Willis L. Brunson b: Bet. 1804 - 1810 .. 3 James Y. Brunson b: Abt. 1810 ...... +Theresa ??? 2 Jesse Nettles, Jr. b: August 10, 1775 d: July 02, 1839 .... +Rebecca Cantey b: Abt. 1770 2 Elizabeth Nettles b: February 01, 1778 d: Abt. 1814 .... +James Atkins 2 Anna Nettles b: May 22, 1779 d: October 28, 1784 .... +John PettyPoole 2 [3] Hezekiah Nettles b: April 11, 1782 in Camden District, SC d: April 19, 1860 in Marengo Co., AL .... +Eleanor White *2nd Wife of [3] Hezekiah Nettles: .... +Susanna White *3rd Wife of [3] Hezekiah Nettles: .... +Susan E. White 2 Martha Nettles b: April 17, 1784 d: May 07, 1820 .... +David Rodgers 2 Mary Nettles b: May 25, 1786 .... +James McKellar 2 Temperence Nettles b: April 21, 1788 d: May 19, 1850 .... +John Holladay 2 John Nettles b: March 30, 1790 d: December 13, 1863 .... +Elizabeth John Miller 2 Harvey Nettles b: September 06, 1792 d: January 29, 1844 .... +Unknown Wife 2 Joseph Marley Nettles b: November 30, 1796 d: Abt. 1870 .... +Martha Rivers 2 Tabitha Nettles b: July 27, 1799 d: February 22, 1825 .... +John Coskrey 2 [4] Amos Arton Nettles b: March 07, 1801 in Claremont Co., SC d: November 25, 1862 .... +Leonora Dargan .. 3 Sallie E. Nettles .. 3 Alene Nettles *2nd Wife of [4] Amos Arton Nettles: .... +Emily Singleton b: 1797 in SC d: Aft. December 18, 1828 .. 3 Henrietta Ann Nettles .. 3 James D. Nettles .. 3 Jesse Nettles .. 3 William Nettles .. 3 John Miller Nettles b: 1829 d: 1879 .. 3 Joseph A. Nettles b: 1843 d: 1928 .. 3 Alice J. Nettles *3rd Wife of [4] Amos Arton Nettles: .... +Mary Sumter Murrell b: February 22, 1810 in Sumter District, SC d: Aft. 1880 2 Elsie Nettles b: September 02, 1774 .... +Joseph Pack, Jr. b: in Sumter District, SC ----- Original Message ----- From: <VisitHeaven@aol.com> To: <SCSUMTER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2000 7:03 PM Subject: Re: [SCSUMTER-L] "S" in Scott book > Do you need any info on Elsie Nettles parents? or brothers and sisters? I > have nothing on her children etc. Maybe we can exchange information. Jackie > > > ==== SCSUMTER Mailing List ==== > Rootsweb has a search engine available for its mailing lists. > If you don't know which list you'd like to search, check out the list > of lists hosted by RootsWeb at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~maillist/ > You can search the message archives of the SCSumter list at: > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > >

Janet, Yes, thanks. I will add it to my files. Lonne ----- Original Message ----- From: Janet Gardner <jgardner@tca.net> To: <SCSUMTER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2000 7:49 PM Subject: [SCSUMTER-L] Re:Nettles > Lonne: > Here is the abstract I was talking about: > "South Carolina Deed Abstracts 1783-1788" Books 1-5 through Z-5 abstracted > by Brent H. Holcomb F268.H644 > > page 193 > > Q-t,397-409: Lease and release. 15 & 16 Feb 1774, Jesse Nettles of South > Carolina, Craven County, Camden District, shoe maker, and Anne his wife, to > Anthony Lee of said parish and district, by grant dated 10 Jan 1771 to > Jesse Nettles, 100 acres in Craven County on the High Hills of Santee adj. > land of Hugh McMahan, Lewis Collns, now sold for L100 [pounds] currency. > Jesse Nettles (LS), Anne Nettles (A) (LA), Wit: Jas McCormick, Elias Fort, > Perter Mellet, Josiah Nettles. Proved in Camden District by the oath of > Peter Mellet 19 Apr 1786 before Wm. Murrell, J. P. Recorded 29 Apr 1786. > > Hope this helps, Janet > > > ==== SCSUMTER Mailing List ==== > Rootsweb has a search engine available for its mailing lists. > If you don't know which list you'd like to search, check out the list > of lists hosted by RootsWeb at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~maillist/ > You can search the message archives of the SCSumter list at: > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > >

Judith, That is wonder information! Thank you so much for looking that up for me. It will help me to keep going forward to try to find some of these lost relatives. Lonne ----- Original Message ----- From: J.C.R. Hutchinson <JandCHutch@compuserve.com> To: <SCSUMTER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2000 3:34 PM Subject: [SCSUMTER-L] Charles Manning Richardson > Lonne: > > >From the 1860 census of Clarendon District I found the family of Charles > Manning Richardson and Mary Ann Mercer: > > Their Children: > > Dorcas (female, 1847-1926) who m. a Mr. Connors > Randolph, b. c 1849 > Richard, b. c 1852 > Patty, b. c 1852 > James, b. c 1854 > Charles, b. c 1857 > Ann L.E., b. c 1859 > > The family apparently were Baptists, for Charles is buried at Calvary Bapt. > Cemetery near Paxville (p. 576 of Sumter County Cemetery Book # 2, > Clarendon County) and Mary Ann and Dorcas are buried at the Baptist > Cemetery at Taw Taw Swamp, Summerton (p. 576 of same book). > > I have not followed this Richardson family, since they are not "my" > Richardsons, who are the descendants of William Richardson and Ann Magdalen > Guignard of Bloom Hill Plantation. There are lots of lawyers and doctors > in my Richardson family, but only one Governor that I have seen, who > actually was married to a Richardson and was not himself a Richardson > (Thank goodness! His tenure as Governor was full of scandal, and his wife > eventually divorced him.). > > Hope this helps. > > Judith Reesor Hutchinson > > > ==== SCSUMTER Mailing List ==== > Rootsweb has a search engine available for its mailing lists. > If you don't know which list you'd like to search, check out the list > of lists hosted by RootsWeb at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~maillist/ > You can search the message archives of the SCSumter list at: > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > >

Jackie, Wanted to know if the 4 Brunson's might be listed as children of Brunson's old enough to be their parents. The James Brunson that you mentioned in one of your e-mails today shows married Elizabeth (?) Cantey. Cantey is correct and they named a son James Cantey Brunson, he was in St. Peters Parish, Beaufort District from about 1800 to 1820 (my dates could be incomplete). He had several children, his wife died and he moved to FL (Columbia Co., I think) and married Sarah Ann Smart, believed to be daughter of Moses Smart as they lived close to gather in SC and FL. The reason I know this is because I corresponded with Vince Bronson, a descendant of James C. Brunson (who changed his name to Bronson) when he moved to FL. Isaac and Amos Brunson were sons of James C. by first marriage and both went to Decatur Co. GA. My great grandfather was Hampton Brunson and we have searched for years for the parent of these Brunson's. Marie Marie Brunson Jefferson mjeffers@surfsouth.com -----Original Message----- From: VisitHeaven@aol.com <VisitHeaven@aol.com> To: SCSUMTER-L@rootsweb.com <SCSUMTER-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Tuesday, February 15, 2000 7:28 PM Subject: Re: [SCSUMTER-L] "S" in Scott book >Marie, you will have to tell me more. I don't understand what you are asking >for. Please explain and I will look it up. Jackie > > >==== SCSUMTER Mailing List ==== >The Sumter County Genealogy Society is open Tuesday - Saturday 10:00-1:00 >and from 2:00 - 5:00. (Check for holiday closings.) (803) 773-9144 >The Genealogical and Historical Research Center is located at 219 West Liberty Street in Sumter. >The mailing address is P.O. Box 2543 Sumter, S.C. 29151. >Meetings are held every third Monday at 7:30 p.m. except during June,July, and August. >(The meetings are held at Swan Lake Presbyterian Church.) > >

There is mention of the Greens, Deas, Miller and Jenkins. Jenkins: " The school house,built of logs, had a stand at the Eastern end, that served for a pulpit whenever a stray Methodist preacher happened to call and hold divine service, which was done by at least one of them in my time, who dwclared that he was not ashamed to be called "old Bawling Jenkins" He was widely known as a zealous Christian, had been a faithful soldier in the Revolutionary War, and bore an excellent character in every respect, which together caused him to be elected doorkeeper of the Senate in his extreme old age." 1865: "Returning from Winchester by way of Staunton, I arrived at Culpepper Court House in a furious snow storm. There Gen. Kershaw, Gen. Jenkins and Gen. Anderson furnished me such information as I desired." This, during the burning of Columbia: "Left them to get a guard for the place, and meeting Mr. Dovilliers, heard that Major Jenkins at Nickerson's Hotel, was Provost Marshal for placing guards........After waiting till near night I got speech of Maj. Jenkins and stated conditions of things at the bank-females occupying the rooms overhead and vaults from floor to ceiling filled with valuable property of private citizens - begging him to send guards for their protection. he replied "I cannot undertake to protect private property." Deas - Camden 1811-1817: "The leading citizens were the Canteys, Chestnuts, McCraes, Kershaws, Langs, Deases, Nixons, Abbotts, Douglasses, Dobys, Carters,Reynolds, Whitakers, Blandings, Boykins, Kennedys, Warrens and others." I will finish with the Greens and Millers tomorrow. Blanche

Lonne: Here is the abstract I was talking about: "South Carolina Deed Abstracts 1783-1788" Books 1-5 through Z-5 abstracted by Brent H. Holcomb F268.H644 page 193 Q-t,397-409: Lease and release. 15 & 16 Feb 1774, Jesse Nettles of South Carolina, Craven County, Camden District, shoe maker, and Anne his wife, to Anthony Lee of said parish and district, by grant dated 10 Jan 1771 to Jesse Nettles, 100 acres in Craven County on the High Hills of Santee adj. land of Hugh McMahan, Lewis Collns, now sold for L100 [pounds] currency. Jesse Nettles (LS), Anne Nettles (A) (LA), Wit: Jas McCormick, Elias Fort, Perter Mellet, Josiah Nettles. Proved in Camden District by the oath of Peter Mellet 19 Apr 1786 before Wm. Murrell, J. P. Recorded 29 Apr 1786. Hope this helps, Janet

Also Lonne, I just saw where you spelled Elizabeth's last name as Caney. It is Cantey. I would guess that you know that and that you spelled it wrong by mistake. Jackie

Lonne, that is not the correct Elizabeth. Your Elizabeth is the daughter of John Cantey and his first wife "unknown". The other Elizabeth is the daughter of Josiah and Susanna Cantey. Josiah is the son of William. William is the child of John and his second wife Ann. You can see Elizabeth who married Elmes on http://Singleton Family.org/ You can also see Elizabeth in the Cantey line but there is something wrong with that line. I will try and fix it but it will be a while before it gets corrected on the web pages. Jackie

Lonne, you did put about 1/3 of todays list out yesterday. I will put the rest in my computer. I think that I have some of the new names already but I will check what I have to see if it matches what you have sent. Thank You, Jackie

I forgot, when you get all of this straight please let me know so I can put it in my computer. Thanks Jackie

Marie, I think that I understand. According to this book, and I have found many errors and incomplete information says that James Brunson (b. 1716), son of Isaac I and Margaret Brunson, m. Elizabeth Cantey (?). They did have a James but it just says D.1 James, Jr. (was said to have 100 acres on Black River at one time). He possibly had more, since most of the early Brunson settlers had much land. D.2 Isaac Brunson m. Suzannah (?) D. 3 Peter Edhea Brunson (d. 1836) m. Helena_______ which we have decided should be Winnifred. Cantey is such a good name for this area. I have another book called Kershaw County Cousins by Charlotte Boykin Salmond Brunson On page 125 It says, "The children of Josiah and Susanna Cantey were: Elizabeth Cantey married James Brunson, etc. " It gives no further information on Elizabeth Cantey and James Brunson. Josiah Cantey's parents are William Cantey of Craven, second son of John Cantey and Ann, and Arabella Oldys, dauther of Joseph Oldys. William and Arabella married before 1703. William died in 1729. Also Josiah, born before 1708 married first Elizabeth Boswood and second, Susannah___________. John's parents are George Cantey and Martha Cantey. George was the son of Teige and Elizabeth Cantey. You could go to http://SingletonFamily.org/ and look at the Cantey line. However, I just realized that there is a generation off. I would change it so you could get the real thing but I have to mail it to my son first. He has to make the change on the web page and then do whatever else he has to do to get it on the web. I don't know when that will be. I will try to get it straight tomorrow on my computer however. If you want to ask questions I will try to answer them. Jackie

Judith, This is what Scott says about the Female Institute: "Dr. Marks' Female Institute at Barhamville was in a very flourishing condition and he built, rented and sold houses on the hills around." This was in 1840 and he was talking about how few of the ones he remembered who were still alive in 1884 when he wrote the book. Of them all he wrote: "How truly may I say while walking our streets----- When I remember all the friends so linked together I've seen around me fall like leaves in wintry weather I feel like one who treads alone Some banquet hall deserted. " Blanche

Blanche: What does the book say about the "South Carolina Female Collegiate Institute?" I have a feeling that he was talking about my alma mater, Winthrop College, The South Carolina College for Women (now co-ed Winthrop University) in Rock Hill. Judith Reesor Hutchinson

Does anyone have any information on Anna Rich Holladay (8 May 1892-27 Mar 1978), who is buried at Home Branch Baptist Church in Clarendon County? Is she the same person as Anna L. Rich, b. Oct 1891, the daughter of Joseph Augustus Rich and Eunice Enola Beatson? Judith Reesor Hutchinson

Lonne: >From the 1860 census of Clarendon District I found the family of Charles Manning Richardson and Mary Ann Mercer: Their Children: Dorcas (female, 1847-1926) who m. a Mr. Connors Randolph, b. c 1849 Richard, b. c 1852 Patty, b. c 1852 James, b. c 1854 Charles, b. c 1857 Ann L.E., b. c 1859 The family apparently were Baptists, for Charles is buried at Calvary Bapt. Cemetery near Paxville (p. 576 of Sumter County Cemetery Book # 2, Clarendon County) and Mary Ann and Dorcas are buried at the Baptist Cemetery at Taw Taw Swamp, Summerton (p. 576 of same book). I have not followed this Richardson family, since they are not "my" Richardsons, who are the descendants of William Richardson and Ann Magdalen Guignard of Bloom Hill Plantation. There are lots of lawyers and doctors in my Richardson family, but only one Governor that I have seen, who actually was married to a Richardson and was not himself a Richardson (Thank goodness! His tenure as Governor was full of scandal, and his wife eventually divorced him.). Hope this helps. Judith Reesor Hutchinson

In a message dated 02/15/2000 3:37:15 PM Eastern Standard Time, JandCHutch@compuserve.com writes: << What does the book say about the "South Carolina Female Collegiate Institute?" I have a feeling that he was talking about my alma mater, Winthrop College >> Greetings from SC. The South Carolina Female Collegiate Institute, founded by Dr. Elias Marks, was located at Barhamville (now Two Noth Rd., Columbia) 1828- 1865. Winthrop Training School (now Winthrop College in Rock Hill) was not started until 1886. The original location was on Henderson St. in Columbia. The original brick building was moved to the Winthrop campus in Rock Hill in this century. URQ

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Marie, you will have to tell me more. I don't understand what you are asking for. Please explain and I will look it up. Jackie

Lonne, I would like your information back to Peter Edheah Brunson and his children are as far as that line goes. Jackie

Peter is D.3 on page 54 of The Brunsons of South Carolina. His parents are James Brunson (b1716), son of Isaac I and Margaret ????????, m. to Elizabeth Cantey (?). I guess the question mark means her last name is unknown. James is C.3 on page 54. James parents are Isaac Brownson (1672-1739), second son of John and Hannah Brownson, was born in Weatherfield, Conn., in 1672. He first married Thankful Dibble while he was still living in Connecticut and they were said to have had two sons--Samuel and Joseph. He then came to South Carolina where he remained for some time, imporving his land and building a house. When he returned to Connecticut, he divorced his wife and married Margaret (whose last name is not known). Isaac is B.3 on page 9. John Brownson, born in Connecticut in 1645, was married to Hannah Scott (b. 1651), daughter of Edmund and Hannah Bird Scott. John is A.1 on page 7. That's all the further that the book goes back. I have other information but it isn't in the computer yet and there's way to much to get into right now. Jackie