Thanks for your time and consideration. The information you sent has been very helpful. You have to know history to further your research. That is a fact! Janet At 01:51 PM 2/20/00 EST, you wrote: >I believe this surname Nettles (as well as many other South Carolina names) >can be found in early Wilkinson Co., MS records. Some of my Sumter Co. folks >moved there, some before the War of 1812 and some after War of 1812, but they >trickled in as a group--seven Scott sons and lots of their Keller kin--and >intermarried. (But not all Scotts in that area are related. Some were big >land-owners and county officials and some like mine were just common folk.) >The records are very good there, unlike the Sumter Co. records. > >LDS Family History Library, Salt Lake City, has many films for Wilkinson Co., >MS and it's adjoining parish in Louisiana--Feliciana Parish, which later >split into two parishes, so one has to search in all three >jurisdictions--Wilkinson Co., West Feliciana Parish and East Feliciana Parish. > >Heritage Books a few years ago published newspaper abstracts from the >Wilkinson Co. newspaper, and these are helpful in finding dates when your >people may have married or died (if your people migrated there). > >A people-finder for this part of the MS-LA area (plus many other areas of >what had been the Louisiana Purchase) is Philip McMullen's (or McMillen) >GRASSROOTS OF AMERICA. This is a computerized index to parts of filmed >Gales and Seaton version of AMERICAN STATE PAPERS, one particular volume of >same. These have been filmed by LDS and may be in some University microfilm >collections and large libraries. > >For LA and MS, these papers pertained mostly to private land claims granted >by the Spanish prior to the Americans taking over. However, one may find >other persons also in the index. As a librarian-genealogist cautioned me >(and the audience), ALWAYS read the preface and/or introduction. This is a >MUST with McMullen's book, which is an index--like a telephone directory but >with not much information. Suggest you read up on this resource in a book >such as THE SOURCE (either edition). That book was written by the experts, >and I am not an expert. > >Of course, some of your folks stayed in Sumter Co. Annie Gregorie states in >her history of Sumter Co. (I believe--I read at it many years ago) that as >the cotton gin was invented, farmers discovered they could plant much more >cotton and so as their families expanded, they moved to bigger and newer >fields--such as MS. > >Hope this info helps those who folks wandered from Sumter Co., SC. > >E.W.Wallace >southern California > > >==== SCSUMTER Mailing List ==== >The Sumter County Genealogy Society is open Tuesday - Saturday 10:00-1:00 >and from 2:00 - 5:00. (Check for holiday closings.) (803) 773-9144 >The Genealogical and Historical Research Center is located at 219 West Liberty Street in Sumter. >The mailing address is P.O. Box 2543 Sumter, S.C. 29151. >Meetings are held every third Monday at 7:30 p.m. except during June,July, and August. >(The meetings are held at Swan Lake Presbyterian Church.) > >

I believe this surname Nettles (as well as many other South Carolina names) can be found in early Wilkinson Co., MS records. Some of my Sumter Co. folks moved there, some before the War of 1812 and some after War of 1812, but they trickled in as a group--seven Scott sons and lots of their Keller kin--and intermarried. (But not all Scotts in that area are related. Some were big land-owners and county officials and some like mine were just common folk.) The records are very good there, unlike the Sumter Co. records. LDS Family History Library, Salt Lake City, has many films for Wilkinson Co., MS and it's adjoining parish in Louisiana--Feliciana Parish, which later split into two parishes, so one has to search in all three jurisdictions--Wilkinson Co., West Feliciana Parish and East Feliciana Parish. Heritage Books a few years ago published newspaper abstracts from the Wilkinson Co. newspaper, and these are helpful in finding dates when your people may have married or died (if your people migrated there). A people-finder for this part of the MS-LA area (plus many other areas of what had been the Louisiana Purchase) is Philip McMullen's (or McMillen) GRASSROOTS OF AMERICA. This is a computerized index to parts of filmed Gales and Seaton version of AMERICAN STATE PAPERS, one particular volume of same. These have been filmed by LDS and may be in some University microfilm collections and large libraries. For LA and MS, these papers pertained mostly to private land claims granted by the Spanish prior to the Americans taking over. However, one may find other persons also in the index. As a librarian-genealogist cautioned me (and the audience), ALWAYS read the preface and/or introduction. This is a MUST with McMullen's book, which is an index--like a telephone directory but with not much information. Suggest you read up on this resource in a book such as THE SOURCE (either edition). That book was written by the experts, and I am not an expert. Of course, some of your folks stayed in Sumter Co. Annie Gregorie states in her history of Sumter Co. (I believe--I read at it many years ago) that as the cotton gin was invented, farmers discovered they could plant much more cotton and so as their families expanded, they moved to bigger and newer fields--such as MS. Hope this info helps those who folks wandered from Sumter Co., SC. E.W.Wallace southern California

Dear Friends and Family, I worked on writing the following as my Mama asked me to do. I know that bits will have already been changed by the funeral home for inclusion in the Item. (They have a certain format that they follow.) I thought that I would send it to those in my address book who know me or who knew my grandmother and would like to know about her passing. Her passing was not a surprise and was fairly easy at the end. I hope that of the ones who receive that Sumter paper receive this before reading it there. Graveside services will either be Tuesday or Wednesday at 4:00 in Evergreen Memorial Cemetery, Sumter, S.C. Cindy Sumter, South Carolina February 19, 2000 Lucille Blackmon Frances Lucille Richburg Lowder Blackmon, 80, widow of Woodrow Wilson Blackmon, died Saturday, February 19, 2000, at Mariner West Nursing Home in Sumter. Born of French Huguenot ancestry at Davis Station in Clarendon County on March 16, 1919, she was a daughter of the late William DeWitt Richburg and Annie Vermell DuBose Cutter Richburg. For much of her life she was a Methodist, but in her later years she became a member of Eastside Baptist Church. Survivors include a daughter, Dorothy L. Lowder of Sumter; three grandchildren, Cynthia Ridgeway Parker, Timothy Franklin Ridgeway, and Howard Lowder Jr. (Chip); four great-grandchildren, one great-great grandchild, and a number of nieces and nephews. She was preceded in death by her first husband, Scott Randall Lowder; two sons, Randall DeWitt Lowder and William Scott Lowder; siblings, Annie Louise Richburg Blackmon, Mamie Cutter Morris, Lovelle Cutter Barwick, and Johnny A. Cutter. The family will receive friends at the home of granddaughter, Mrs. Bruce (Cindy) Parker on the corner of Sandalwood Lane and Wedgefield Road in Sumter. Memorials may be made to the Sumter County Genealogical Society, P.O. Box 2543, Sumter, S.C. 29151-2543 Elmore-Hill-Mcreight Funeral Home is in charge of the arrangements. Plans are incomplete at this time.

My grandfather, Claude Manning, was a principal and vice-president in the Sumter Telephone Company in the early 1900's. He left Sumter ca. 1915, for a business obliquely related to the telephone business and the first automobile in Sumter (I believe also in South Carolina) which he owned. My uncle has told me that during the 20's in South Orange, NJ that very close friends were Bartletts. He wondered if there was a connection to the Sumter Bartletts. He also, asks if any of the original telephone company buildings still stand at that location?--Bob Manning rcmjr@aol.com In a message dated 2/18/00 11:44:53 AM Eastern Standard Time, SCSUMTER-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: << Roots Web : Bartlette Street here in Sumter is named for a Mrs. Barltett or Bartlette that had a home on this street....it either was near or where the Sumter Telephone Co...(now Moise Mini-Warehouses) are.....The Rev. Bartlette is Presbyterian....so that may be a clue...There was a Chas. Bartlett that lost all the funds in Sumter's first bank....his father was Pres. Minister.....all the money was repaid..have never done this story....but fancinating to me.....his wife was from Texas....and they may have gone out there when their troubles were over....but speculation on my part.....I also have some things on the Sumter Female Institute or academy....went out of business in l902... historical sign on Washington Street......this one established in l867... all that I can remember for now.....mayorbubba@sumter.net >>

To all who inquired: The South Carolina Historical Society, located in the "Fireproof Building" at 100 Meeting Street in Charleston, will be holding its annual meeting and luncheon in Charleston on Saturday, 4 March. It is an all-day affair. First, there is the annual meeting of the members at the buisness meeting at 10:00 am. A sherry reception will be held at 11:30 am followed by the luncheon at 12:00, both held at the Charleston Place Hotel. The speaker at the luncheon is historical novelist John Jakes, author of the eight-volume Kent Family Chronicles and The North and South Trilogy, as well as other works. Following the address will be a tour of historic homes along Murray Boulevard. After the tour will be a cocktail reception. Tickets to the all-day event are $50.00 each. For further details and to order tickets, contact: South Carolina Historical Society 100 Meeting Street Charleston, SC 29401-2299 fax: 843 723-8584 voice: 843 723-3225 Unfortunately, they have not posted the meeting information on their web page this year, so you shall have to contact them directly. Hope to see some of you there. Judith Reesor Hutchinson

A recent message was: This was the only mention of Robert Waddell: It was in Columbia 1817-1822... My reply: If persons are searching for missing Waddells who may have migrated from Sumter Co. (not proved), suggest looking at early records of Wilkinson Co., MS, many of which films can be ordered through LDS Family History centers. One Eleanor Waddell, daughter of Noel Waddell, Methodist minister, married a George Keller (there were three of them) in Wilkinson Co., MS. Noel Waddell died there. The marriage can be easily traced through published marriage records (Hunting for Bears is the publisher) and there are documents pertaining to the family in the filmed land and court records of Wilkinson Co., MS. Also, Heritage Books in the last few years published some newspaper excerpts of Wilkinson Co., which are quite helpful in establishing links, as notices of probate sales were given. Incidentally, many of the names found in early Wilkinson Co., MS and in the adjoining Louisiana Parishes of East Feliciana and West Feliciana stem from Sumter Co. families. If your missing families are not in Wilkinson Co., try the adjoining parishes. I do only research on the sons (and one daughter) of Cason Scott, a Revolutionary Sergeant of Sumter Co. (died 1816) and an associated family of George Keller, who sold his land in Sumter Co. in 1810. However, for serious researchers, many census indexes and Mississippi land records can narrow the search for those missing in migration. Evelyn W. Wallace southern California

Jeanette, There is only one sentence about your ancestor. I wish there was more. He evidently was a builder or contractor: This was in Columbia, SC in the chapter about the dwellings and businesses when he (Scott) lived there: "Mr. Andrew Wallace's dwelling was on the Northwest corner of Boundary and Pickens Streets, opposite the Lunatic Asylum, which Jabez Warner and Wm. Gray were building in 1821, and I stood upon the walls while they were going up." Blanche

This was the only mention of Robert Waddell: It was in Columbia 1817-1822... McLean,in walking up town one morning,accosted Robert Waddell in his store, where Agnew now keeps, with the question whether he had heard of the good fortune just experienced by their mutual friend, Colonel Preston, to which Waddell replied in the negative. McLean then stated that by the death of a relative Colonel Preston had fallen heir to a very large estate, and then continued on his way. Waddell went home immediately, put on his best suit and betook himself to Colonel Preston's, whom he greeted with his heartiest congratulations. Preston asked what he meant, and being told, said "Mr. Waddell. has it not occurred to you that this is the first of April?" Thoroughly disgusted and discomfited, Waddell went home, resumed his work day clothing, and returning to the store, armed himself with an axe-handle, and awaited McLean's reappearance, who called out to him at a distance of twenty yards:"Well, Waddell, have you found out that this is the first of April?" Waddell replied, shaking the stick at him, "It's well for you that you got the first word, or I'd have given you a taste of this shilelah." Hugh McLean delighted in such jokes and in running rigs upon his friends."

The mention of "Wardlaw" is in conjunction with the Nullification Convention in November, 1832: "The Nullification Convention that met at Columbia in November, in 1832 brought together as great an array of talent and patriotism as ever was assembled in the state. James Hamilton, Jr.,then governor, presided, and among its members were William Harper, Robert Y. Hayne, George McDuffie, Robert J. Turnbull, Job Johnston, F.H. Wardlaw, Armistead Burk, Stephen D. Miller, John Lide Wilson, Daniel E. Huger, John B. Oneall, C.J Colcock, John S. Richardson, R.W. Barnwell, R. B. Rhett, Benjamin F. Perry, ex governor Richard I. Manning, and F.H. Elmore." Blanche

there is Adams Ave....it is named for young man killed in WW2 mayorbubba -----Original Message----- From: Eberhardt, Sherman T. <Sherman.Eberhardt@fiserv.com> To: SCSUMTER-L@rootsweb.com <SCSUMTER-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Friday, February 18, 2000 12:09 PM Subject: Re: [SCSUMTER-L] South Carolina Female Collegiate Institute >hi i would like to know if there is a street in sumter sc called adam street >and who is it named after. my grandmother said it was named after her father >adam green > > >==== SCSUMTER Mailing List ==== >To unsubcribe from the SCSumter mailing list send a one word message, unsubscribe to: >SCSumter-L-Request@rootsweb >If you are subscribed to the Digest mode send your unsubcribe message to: >SCSumter-D-request@rootsweb.com

hi i would like to know if there is a street in sumter sc called adam street and who is it named after. my grandmother said it was named after her father adam green

Roots Web : Bartlette Street here in Sumter is named for a Mrs. Barltett or Bartlette that had a home on this street....it either was near or where the Sumter Telephone Co...(now Moise Mini-Warehouses) are.....The Rev. Bartlette is Presbyterian....so that may be a clue...There was a Chas. Bartlett that lost all the funds in Sumter's first bank....his father was Pres. Minister.....all the money was repaid..have never done this story....but fancinating to me.....his wife was from Texas....and they may have gone out there when their troubles were over....but speculation on my part.....I also have some things on the Sumter Female Institute or academy....went out of business in l902... historical sign on Washington Street......this one established in l867... all that I can remember for now.....mayorbubba@sumter.net -----Original Message----- From: GuyWhite3@aol.com <GuyWhite3@aol.com> To: SCSUMTER-L@rootsweb.com <SCSUMTER-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Friday, February 18, 2000 11:00 AM Subject: Re: [SCSUMTER-L] South Carolina Female Collegiate Institute >What do you know about the Sumter Female Academy founded by Rev. Julius Lyman >Bartlett --I think after the Civil War? I have just learned that J. L. >Bartlett's father was J. S. Bartlett. Does anyone know what the J. S. >stands for? Thanks, Kay > > >==== SCSUMTER Mailing List ==== >Rootsweb has a search engine available for its mailing lists. >If you don't know which list you'd like to search, check out the list >of lists hosted by RootsWeb at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~maillist/ >You can search the message archives of the SCSumter list at: >http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl

Here's the T through Z listing: Talley (Dr. Alexander, Rev. Nicholas, S.O.), Tariff, Andrew Tarrar, Twelve Mile Creek, Twenty Nine Mile House, Taylor (Capt. Alexander, Dr. Benjamin W., Benjamin F., "Black-Eyed" Billy, George, Col. Henry P., Dr. James H., Jesse P., Gov. John, Martha, R.A., Simon, Stuttering Billy, Major Thomas, Col. Thomas, Burying Ground, Family, Street, Town, Taylor's Spring), Temperance Advocate, Temperance Movement, Col. John P. Thomas, Thompson (G.M., Mrs. G.M., Waddy), Thornton (John C., Phinas), the Rev. James Thornwell, Major John Threewits, Gen Tom Thumb, Jack Tierney, Toasts, Tobacco, Dr. Hugh H. Toland, John Townsend, Tradewell (Mrs. F.A., Dr. James D.), Transportation, Trinity EpiscopalChurch, George B. Tucker, Robert J. Turnbull, Dr. Turnipseed, J.B. Ulm, Union, S.C., Union Savings Bank, United Staes Bank, Ursaline Convent Mr. Van Thuysen, Martin Van Buren, Vansant (Isaac, Jacob, and family), Veal (John, Thomas L.), Henry Voss Robert Waddell, Capt. George Wade, Wagons, Capt. D.L. Wakely, Walker (Ellen, J.C.), Wallace (Andrew, Dr. John, Col. William, family and Macfie), Walter (John I., Mrs. John, Mrs. M.C., William T.), War of 1812, F.H.Wardlaw, Waring (Clark, John, Nero, Robert), Jabez Warner, Warren family, Gen. George Washington, Washington House, Washington Street, Water Works, Wateree River, Willam B. Watts, James W. Webb, Weekly State Gazette, Samuel Wier, Dr. Thomas Wells, Jack Wey, Gen. Joseph Wheeler, Wheeler and Killian Steam Mill, Whigs, Whitaker family, Matt Wiggins, Richard H. Wilde, John W. Wilkins, Williams (Gov. David R., George W.,), Williamson(Chestine E., Tommy, Family), Wilson (Rev. J. Leighton, John Lide, Sam), David Winchell, Wingard (David, Daniel, George, Jeremy, Samuel), Wing's Mill, Winnsboro, S.C. Wise (Fred, John, Family), Wood (james, Gen Thomas J.), Dr. James Woodrow, Mrs. David Yates, Yates and Phillips, Mr. Yeaman, Yorkville, S.C., Young (Charles, Theatrical Company, Edward,James), Young's Mill, Mrs. Charles Zimmerman ,

Where can I get more info about this meeting? Kay

If you find it, let me know too. Thanks, Kay

What do you know about the Sumter Female Academy founded by Rev. Julius Lyman Bartlett --I think after the Civil War? I have just learned that J. L. Bartlett's father was J. S. Bartlett. Does anyone know what the J. S. stands for? Thanks, Kay

Could you please post the Wardlaw and Waddell references? Thanks so much. Regards, Gene

I thought so. Just checking. Jackie I just got through sending you another message. Jackie

Jackie, Yes, it is 1774 that Elsie Nettles was born. I must have been tired that night! Lonne ----- Original Message ----- From: <VisitHeaven@aol.com> To: <SCSUMTER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2000 8:50 PM Subject: Re: [SCSUMTER-L] "S" in Scott book > Lonne don't know much on these people. The Cantey info is correct at that > Web site I gave you. Also that second try you did on the family of Jesse > Nettles, did it have more information the second time then the first time. > For some reason I can't decode those MIME messages. Also the Elsie Nettles > that m. Joseph Pack, Jr. was she born in 1774 or 1794. I have 1794. Maybe > it was just a typo error??? Bye for now. Jackie > > > ==== SCSUMTER Mailing List ==== > Rootsweb has a search engine available for its mailing lists. > If you don't know which list you'd like to search, check out the list > of lists hosted by RootsWeb at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~maillist/ > You can search the message archives of the SCSumter list at: > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > >

Are any other subscribers to this list going to attend the annual meeting and luncheon of the South Carolina Historical Society in Charleston on Saturday, March 4th? I plan to attend, and it would be nice to meet in person some other genealogists whom I have met online. Judith Reesor Hutchinson