The 1820 census may be much easier and faster to load very soon. A gentleman has contacted Barbara about converting the graphic files to text. He did a practice run on one of the pages and it turned out great. I was able to format it into an html table in about 10 minutes. (By the time I get practiced at it and get rolling, it will take me 5 minutes or so for each one. I have gotten very good at copy and paste.) The table files will load in no time. We are hoping that he will be able to have the time to do all of the pages. I have OCR software and had tried doing it myself but my scanner is black and white and it just wouldn't convert the file. So, don't worry about the pages not linking, etc. for a bit. I am not going to fix anything right now since it may all very soon be changed to text. The result will be 14 fast loading pages instead of 71 slow as molassas ones. Hopefully we can get the 1790 ones done too. Cindy

I have been working off and on for the past few days on the Sumter 1820 Census. I have it all loaded now. (I think.) 71 pages. I know that there are errors and bad links somewhere between all of those pages. I have already found that page 5 does not link from page 4. I left a part of the address out somehow. I hope that I didn't do that on any of the other links. Maybe just that one. I will get that fixed when I can concentrate on it again. Right now it's late and I have been looking at this computer screen for too long. When you go and start browsing the pages, please let me know where the bad links are. With 71 pages, I just don't have time right now to check them all out. It will take someone days to look at all of the pages. Maybe weeks. Just let me know when you find an error. If a page won't link to the next page the way to get there is to change the number. For example Page 3 is: http://www.rootsweb.com/~scsumter/sumter1820_3.html To find page 23 change the number 3 to 23. Barbara has an index. As soon as she gets time, she will send it on to me. I have created a template page for the index pages. Also let me know if the page number is wrong at the top. I know that page 3 has pages 11-15 at the top. That's was from when I had 4 or 4 pages to a web page. I decided to change it to only 1 page to a web page. When the index is up and you know exactly which page to go to, 1 page to a page will be easier. Thanks for your help in proofing. This has been the most momentus web page task that I have taken on yet. So many pages. (Oh, I worked on the 1790 Clarendon one too, putting 1 page to a web page.) Cindy P.S. Oh, by the way, Page 3 on the Sumter Census page was not the correct page 3. It was a copy of the page 3 from Clarendon. It's the right page now. Somehow they got mixed up when I first received them.

Happy Thanksgiving everyone, The 1820 Sumter Census connected with the Sumter page is sort of on hold right now. I have received a couple messages about it not all being there so I figured that some folks were worried about it. It's not all there yet. Barbara was sending it to me and had to suddenly go out of town. A little bit of it is there. When she is able to she will start sending it to me. I have all of the pages ready to load up with the graphics when I get them. I know that many of you are anxious to see it. The 1790 Claremont on is up though. I had promised myself that I would have it finished during Thanksgiving but I beat myself by about 4 or 5 days. There are a little over 100 subscribers to this list now. I counted the addresses at the listowners page on Saturday. That's a good number of people for a little less than 3 months. The word must have spread or everyone who visits the pages joins. Have a wonderful Thanksgiving. Cindy in Sumter

Still searching for information and connections to the Singleton's, pioneer settlers of the area that became Sumter Co., SC. Also seeking information on associated families such as Isham MOORE, Richard RICHARDSON, Thomas BENISON, STROTHER, Van NUYES, CANTEY, WILDER, BRADFORD, VAUGHN, JAMES. The connections with these names would be in the 1700's. Thanks, Tom Land -- When you shake the family tree wondrous stories pour forth! (Also some fruits & nuts!!) Tom Land [email protected] Searching SINGLETON's, LENOIR's, Chism's & VEST's everywhere! Always pleased with new info, always willing to share. List Owner of the SINGLETON and VEST research groups. * To subscribe send an e-mail with the word subscribe in body, * no subject or signature to the appropriate list address: [email protected] OR [email protected] Visit: The RootsWeb homepage at http://www.rootsweb.com/ The Official SINGLETON home page: http://astrodawg.com/gen/singleton/

Well, maybe I;m not doing something right...cynthia..got any ideas? kay

Hello Everyone, I just uploaded the 1790 Clarmont Census in text format. This one loads quickly. I have spent a lot of time typing and trying to get the table right. It's not right still. It looked ok on my computer until I uploaded it. The right side is too wide and the first part of each new table is in bold for some reason and the last name has a very long box. I will fix it eventually. Right now I just want to go and read a good book for a while. At least all of the text is there for everyone to see and find their ancestors. The Sumter County Museum hosted a reinactment today. The 23rd CSA Reinactment group had a camp set up on the museum grounds. It was fun to see. They were cooking corn and some other things over a camp fire. They had tents set up. My son Sean and I met my cousin Dee and her husband Ken there. We toured the museum. I hadn't been upstairs there for a while. They have a quilt exhibit that I hadn't seen. They still have some of those Sumter District by Janie Revill books available. I saw some in the gift shop. Plenty of the Anne King Gregorie Sumter County History too. I hope that you enjoy the census. Cindy Remember that as of Dec. 1 our messages will be archived by Rootsweb. As soon as I know the exact url, I will let you know and post it on the pages. Right now there is a generic page url and I can't remember what it is. They will contact all of the listowners about it. Have a wonderful Thanksgiving. Oh, does anyone out there have OCR software. I do, but it's so old that it's not color. What needs to be done was scanned by a color scanner. (I haven't used my scanner in ages and ages. It's black and white.) If you do, and are willing to help with something, please let me know.

Does anyone know anything about this family of Jackson's that were in Sumter Co. S. Carolina in 1850 ? If so please contact me. Thanks, Kay in Texas 1850 Sumter Co. S. Car. Census- Family 1326 C.C. Jackson-39-w-m Mary S. Jackson-30-w-f Mary J. Jackson-9-w-f Ellen G. Jackson-6-w-f Rachel B. Jackson-3-w-f Thomas B. Jackson-1-w-m

Hello everyone, I have been meaning to send out a message since the Monday meeting of the Society but just haven't had a chance. The Sumter County Genealogy Society has a new slate of officers. Don Johnson will be the president of the society with the new year. He recently retired as Registrar of Mesne Conveyances of the Sumter County Court House. He has been acknowledged throughout the state of S.C. for working hard to save the old records of Sumter County. Take care, Cindy

For federal court records go to my home page at: http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/1134/index.html click on:100% Genealogical Search Engines! then click on:Court Cases You can search all U.S. Appeals Courts, and the following state courts: Massachusetts, Michigan, Ohio, and Virginia. Happy Searching, Russell

Dolores: Because of your EPPS connection, I guess you and I are distant cousins-in-law. Since you said that you had the EPPS lineage already, I guess you are aware of the EPPS genealogy on file at the Sumter County Genealogical Society. I have entered everyone in that genealogy into my computer. I noticed that Mildred KENNEDY is listed as marrying Samuel PRINGLE, but no children are listed. My grandfather, Charles Jones EPPS, is listed as well as my grandmother, Agnes KLEIN, but no children are listed for this marriage. Did you know that the wife of Joel Roberts POINSETT (minister to Mexico, and the person who introduced the poinsettia to the United States) was Mary IZARD PRINGLE, a widow? I don't know if she had any children by her first marriage. I know of none of Joel and Mary. I have a few PRINGLEs in my database. I just did a quick check and found 26 people with the name PRINGLE as either a surname or a middle name. The family connections are with the MAYRANT, ALSTON and SMITH families. Whenever I run across a person whose surname is the same as someone who married in to the families I am researching, I copy the information on that person, just in case I need it later. Frequently, I do make a connection, sometimes several years later. I see that you are in Myrtle Beach. I was raised in Conway, and inherited my mother's house down there (I live right outside of Baltimore, MD). My husband and I shall be down there during Thanksgiving week. My name is in the Horry County phone book, if you would like to compare genealogy notes by phone. Judith Reesor Hutchinson

Hello everyone, Tarsha and I had a great day at the archives. She found some fantastic stuff. I read a lot in the reading room, made a few notes. I started transcribing the CSA 7th Cav. Regiment from microfilm. Got about halfway through the Bs. That should take me a number of years huh. Rootsweb is going to start a new system of archiving the mail that goes across the lists on their server. This will be a fantastic new service for new subscribers who want to go back and see what they have missed in messages before they subscribed. The new system will start on Dec. 1. 1997 so please be aware that if you don't want a message that you sent out over the Sumter list to be archived for posterity or whatever, don't send it over the list. Below is a portion of the message that I received from Karen at Rootsweb. ________________ So, what's the new web-based system to be? Evolving, for a start. In the initial phases, for those lists that are participating, the most recent messages will be available via the web in a threaded format. (This is what Marc has been working on.) The older messages (including the old Maiser archives) will be available via a clunky search engine (like that used for ROOTS-L on http://searches.rootsweb.com). (I've been working on this, at least, until I got diverted by all that stuff up there in the first paragraph.) We hope to do two additional things: find a new search engine that will index both the threaded and unthreaded message bases, and as time allows, convert the unthreaded message bases to threaded. There are some open issues here that we haven't worked through yet, so it will be awhile, but that's the target. What about passwords? These have proven much more controversial than I ever expected. I do understand (shoot, I pushed for them) why they are useful and solve a lot of problems. The difficulty is that they seem to introduce at least as many problems as they solve. Some of which hit closer to home than I like (such as whiney letters to [email protected] asking what the password is). Anything that requires more work from the system administration people is almost guaranteed to be a non-starter, and passwords unfortunately fit that criteria. Besides having to deal with people who can't remember passwords or who type them in the wrong case, etc., there's also the problem that to change a password will require manual intervention (we haven't developed the software yet so the listowner could do so automatically), and a password that is stable and never changed isn't much security. If your archived messages need to be secure, a simple password won't be enough to secure them. If your archive messages don't need to be secure, then there's no need for a password. Bottomline: passwords make more work, but add little additional security. So, no passwords, at least not for now, probably never. Can you edit the archives? No, at least, not now. The tools to let you do so aren't available, and the time for someone (me) to do it for you is in too short of supply. Except for cases of egregious copyright violation, death threats, etc, I won't be available to edit your archives for you. I know this means there will be some cruft, subscribe/unsubscribe commands, reposted digests, spam, etc. For most lists, even with the cruft, the signal to noise ratio will still be quite high. What if you have a list member who doesn't want his/her messages included? You have some options. a) You can simply not participate. b) You can tell him/her that you list is participating, and if he/she does not want his/her messages included in the archives to unsubscribe from the list. Target date for the cutover: 1 December 1997. That should provide time for you to touch base with your listmembers (if you so desire), and for us to further shakedown the scripts that will be used to make all this happen. Marc's beta-test will probably be back online before then. ___________________ The SCSumter list will be participating. Please understand that all messages beginning on Dec. 1, 1997 will be archived by Rootsweb. I have been saving messages and I will stop that very, very soon. (My computer will probably sigh with relief.) Remember that this will be for all of our benefit. The messages will be web based and easily searchable. If you lose one that was important, you can find it again. Three cheers for the great folks at Rootsweb. They work on improving their fantastic service everyday. Cindy Ridgeway Parker SCSumter List owner

Judith, Yes, my mother-in-law, Mildred Elizabeth KENNEDY PRINGLE, is a direct descendent of Daniel EPPS. I have all of their line, I believe. My father-in-law, Samuel Mayes PRINGLE, Sr., was a son of Samuel Wesley PRINGLE and Sarah Jane MAYES. Our PRINGLES lived in the forks of the Black River and have been buried at Concord Presbyterian Church on the Brewington Road for at least three generations before my father-in-law, and he was born in 1906! I would be interested in any information you might have on the marriages of the PRINGLES into other families. There are very few PRINGLES still around from William and John PRINGLE (apparently the earliest ones in the Old Kershaw Dist.). At this point, I only have my two sons and a cousin of my father-in-law, Samuel M. PRINGLE, Sr., of Greenville, SC, has a grandson. I have researched PRINGLES since the late 1960's and am very interested in any info on them. Keep Looking UP! Best regards, Dolores PRINGLE Myrtle Beach, SC

This is my first posting to the list, and I would like to let everyone know that I'm researching the TISDALE family which settled in the Sumter area in the middle 1700s. Also see my query on the Sumter Co GenWeb page. Other SC roots include the ASHWORTH, CORBIN, DIAL/DYAL/DOYLE, HAYES, JAMES, MIXON, and PERKINS families, none of which are known to have lived in Sumter Co. Most of them were located in the 1700s in the adjacent districts of Cheraws and Marion. LV Hayes [email protected]

Hello Everyone I don't know if I did this before, but since I updated the page today, I wanted to let everyone know about the Singleton Home Page. The Singleton home page contains information about the Singleton and related families for anyone researching this information. There is also a link to my family file which contains information about many Singleton's and other related people in the Sumter area. More than a few people doing research about Sumter should be able to find a link to their families here. If you would like to correct or add information to the Singleton Home Page or my family files, email me at [email protected] You may find the Singlton Home Page at http://astrodawg.com/gen/singleton/ Ted Singleton Home Page: http://astrodawg.com/gen/singleton/

Seeking any info on Mary Hodge, widow of John Hodge. She was alive in Montgomery County Alabama 1853. I need the 1850 census checked to see if she is possibly living with a daughter. Any info will be appreciated. Faye

I have collected descendants on 3 Hodge lines. The families are John b. 1775, Benjamin b. 1764 and Abrahma b. 1755. I believe they are brothers. Benjamins will of 1815 mentions John but Abraham was dead by this time. Sibblings listed in this 1815 will are: John Benjamin Lydia m. Norton Jane Elizabeth . Haley Mary m. McCleland Holland m. McCleland Sarah m. Courtney & Nichols Martha m. Hodge or remained single. They were in SC by 1790 but came from NC. This line had been in this country for quite some time. At the present I am most interested in documenting their parents, where they came from and extending the line in both directions. Any help will be greatly appreciated. Faye

Hello everyone, Barbara Stacy Mathews has donated her transcription of the 1790 Clarendon County Census to the Clarendon page. It's now on line. It takes a while to load the page, but the time spent waiting will be worth it. I may break it down into 2 or even 3 sequenced pages but I worked on it so long yesterday that I need to pause with creating new pages for a bit. Barbara plans to send me the 1820 Sumter District census too. That will be a big one. I am working on transcribing the 1790 Claremont census. I should be finished with it by Thanksgiving. (Claremont is now present day Sumter County.) Mine won't take as long to load as it will be all text. That's what's taking me so long, all that typing. I will most likely work on it some more this evening. Bruce and Sean are going to do some Rock fishing at Santee. (Pier light fishing for striped bass. They will freeze.) Happy Researching, Cindy in Sumter, S.C.

Dolores: I notice that EPPS is one of the names you are researching? Which EPPS family? The descendants of Daniel or the descendants of Peter? I am a descendant of Peter EPPS. His son William EPPS and family were b. in North Carolina, but moved to SC shortly before the Civil War. They eventually settled in Kingstree, in Williamsburg County. One of William's grandsons was Ralph Dickson EPPS, who, at one time, was mayor of Sumter and a member of the SC state legislature. He eventually moved to Myrtle Beach where he had a law practice, remaining there until his death. Are you descended from Samuel PRINGLE who m. Mildred KENNEDY? If so, then you are a Daniel EPPS descendant. There are also some PRINGLEs who married some MAYRANTs, and some other MAYRANTs married into the RICHARDSON / GUIGNARD family, which I am researching. Judith Reesor Hutchinson

TEMPORARILY AVAILABLE: Richard WELCH of Sumter, SC who removed to Mississippi family gedcom Richard WELCH of Sumter, SC who removed to Mississippi family tree maker file One of the family lines we are researching is that of Richard WELCH who removed from Sumter SC to Mississippi -- born 1762 in Sumter and died November 10, 1838 in Natchez, MS. I've placed both -- our family tree maker file and our gedcom file -- on my gen. page at my homesite. http://www.butterfly.net/lotus if you think the data may be useful, it is available only temporarily -- as in, it will be coming off the page soon, at which time i will probably post another family surname file for download. Our primary interest in in the surname TARVER. TARVERs removed from the Johnston Co., NC area to Barnwell, SC and then to Amite, Pike Co. area in southern Mississippi. We are pleased to make your acquaintance if you are researching TARVER or WELCH. If you take a look at our gedcom, please followup with questions if you have any, and I'll do the best i can -- if I cannot answer, I'll refer you to my uncle. He's more familiar with some parts and I with other parts as we've worked on different pieces at times. Great regard and wishing you all the best searching. lotus ********************************************************** Lotus D. Cirilo, Executive Director TISD Foundation PO Box 2035 Tyler, Texas 75710-2035 903.531.3543 ********************************************************** E-mail [email protected] http://www.butterfly.net/lotus

Could someone please check S. Carolina marriages for a Charles Jackson to Hannah ? @ 1820 Thank You, Kay in Texas