Hi All, There is a "New" Berkeley County South Carolina Page for SCGenWeb Project. With new information add daily. Please check your link addresses and email address for Berkeley County. Berkeley County http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Acres/3207/berkeley.html Old Berkeley County and Craven County http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Acres/3207/index.html New Email Address: mailto:"John James Simons III" <[email protected]> Yours In History, "The Huguenot"

Julie, I don't know where Smoaks, S.C. is located. My husband and I live in Chicago and we are tracing his family. We know they lived in the Sumter, Manning area in the 1700's and 1800's. When looking in the Road Atlas, I can't find Smoaks. Help? Sally Connors [email protected]

At 10:37 AM 7/9/98 EDT, you wrote: > >I have an Albertas Spain BRIGGS. >URQ > Albertus S. Briggs was listed in the 1860 census with his parents in Clarendon co. Parents Thomas & Margaret. A.S. is 5 yrs old. I have been told that A.S. married Susan Elizabeth Lesesne. Do you agree? Bet [email protected] > >==== SCSUMTER Mailing List ==== >The Sumter County Genealogy Society is open Tuesday - Saturday 10:00-1:00 >and from 2:00 - 5:00. (Check for holiday closings.) (803) 773-9144 >The Genealogical and Historical Research Center is located at 219 West Liberty Street in Sumter. >The mailing address is P.O. Box 2543 Sumter, S.C. 29151. >Meetings are held every third Monday at 7:30 p.m. except during June,July, and August. >(The meetings are usually held at Swan Lake Presbyterian Church.) > >

I think my MAYRANTs and my husband's DuBois lived across the French Santee from one another; I want to know what secondary sources are "out there" RE/French Santee River. DOLLY GAMBRELL<[email protected]> Cynthia Ridgeway Parker writes"The earliest of my forbearers to come to South Carolina were my French Huguenot ancestors. My DuBose ancestors settled along the Santee River in an area dubbed "French Santee," now in Berkeley County, in about 1685. They were naturalized as English citizens in 1695/1696. An act of that year gave Huguenots and "other aliens, expect Papists" the rights of English citizens. Eventually, my DuBose ancestors moved inland up the Santee River to settle in what would become, Clarendon County."

Thomas Whitaker Briggs was born 26 Dec. 1810. His parents, Thomas Briggs & Jemima Jones were from Fairfield District but may have been in Newberry Dist at the time of his birth. The 1810 Fairfield Co. Census list Thomas Briggs with 1 male under 10 (Thomas W.); 3 M 26/45: Thomas would be 26, perhaps his brothers, Gray & John Briggs were with him (?). Gray & John were in Franklin Co. Miss. by 1812 (see "Some SC Genealogical Records" by J. Revill; also 1 F 16/26 Jemima, d/o Darling Jones, would have been 19. Thomas W. married 1st Sarah Ann Ragin (2 children) and 2nd Margaret Susan Spain (9 children, I believe). According to "History of Methodist Church in Summerton, SC", Dr. Briggs is buried at the rear of the pulpit in the church. He died March, 1883. How are you connected? I descend from his 1st daughter, Ann Ranson Briggs. Bet At 07:57 PM 7/8/98 PDT, you wrote: >All, > >I'm trying to dig up information about one Dr. Thomas W. BRIGGS, Sr,- >anything- but,particularly when/where he was born and when/where he >died. The last record I have of him is in the 1880 SC Census, Clarendon >County, St. Paul's township, at age 69. Also listed are: >Margaret, wife, age 56 >Thomas W, Jr, son, age 34 >Ashley, son, age 22 >Edward, son, age 19 > >The problem is Thomas BRIGGS seemed to be a popular name in the state. >Anyone have birth and death info on this Dr. BRIGGS? > >Also, for those interested, there's a nice photo of the BRIGGS home in >Summerton, SC in Allan Thigpen's new book on Potter's Raid. (Thanks to >Mayor Bubba for telling me about the upcoming book.) > >Thanks, >Damita Drayton Green >[email protected] > > >______________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > >

In a message dated 98-07-09 11:05:00 EDT, you write: << Albertus S. Briggs was listed in the 1860 census with his parents in Clarendon co. Parents Thomas & Margaret. A.S. is 5 yrs old. I have been told that A.S. married Susan Elizabeth Lesesne. Do you agree? >> Although I do not have the records in front of me at the moment, that is prob. correct. I am a LESESNE researcher. Will be glad to check & verify that for you. URQ

In a message dated 98-07-09 08:10:17 EDT, you write: << Thomas W. married 1st Sarah Ann Ragin (2 children) and 2nd Margaret Susan Spain (9 children, I believe). According to "History of Methodist Church in Summerton, SC", >> I have an Albertas Spain BRIGGS. URQ

Are your Connors related to the Connor family with roots in Smoaks, SC? I have a friend, Charles Carter Connor, Jr., whose father Charles Sr. is from Smoaks. Julia Cochran

All, I'm trying to dig up information about one Dr. Thomas W. BRIGGS, Sr,- anything- but,particularly when/where he was born and when/where he died. The last record I have of him is in the 1880 SC Census, Clarendon County, St. Paul's township, at age 69. Also listed are: Margaret, wife, age 56 Thomas W, Jr, son, age 34 Ashley, son, age 22 Edward, son, age 19 The problem is Thomas BRIGGS seemed to be a popular name in the state. Anyone have birth and death info on this Dr. BRIGGS? Also, for those interested, there's a nice photo of the BRIGGS home in Summerton, SC in Allan Thigpen's new book on Potter's Raid. (Thanks to Mayor Bubba for telling me about the upcoming book.) Thanks, Damita Drayton Green [email protected] ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

In a message dated 98-07-08 17:17:00 EDT, you write: << I think I have three Connors(Conyers) who were the earlies immigrants to South Carolina - Timothy Connyers(Conners) who arrived before 1695, Thomas Conyers who settled in Charleston about the year 1690 and James Conyers who arrived before August 13, 1697. Does anyone have information on these families? >> I have some early SC CONYERS-- think it is the line of James. Will have to get back to you. Only have time to check mail right now. URQ

It is really great to have such a forum to ask for and give information. Thanks everyone who reads and responds to SCSUMTER. I have traced my husband's gggg grandfather Charles Connors/Conyers back to the Revolutionary War, but have hit a brick wall with Charles's parentage. I have a source that says his mother was a Benoist from the Huguenots in St. Stephen's Parish. Does anyone have a clue? I think I have three Connors(Conyers) who were the earlies immigrants to South Carolina - Timothy Connyers(Conners) who arrived before 1695, Thomas Conyers who settled in Charleston about the year 1690 and James Conyers who arrived before August 13, 1697. Does anyone have information on these families? Thanks again for any help. Sally Connors [email protected]

http://www.rootsweb.com/~scsumter/20thmilitia.html I will go ahead and share this url with all of you even though I don't have all of my typos fixed yet. I haven't added it to the Sumter index page quite yet, I will when I get the typos fixed. Cindy

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http://www.rootsweb.com/~scsumter/7thcav.html The newest addition to the Sumter site is the roster of Company I of the 7th Cavalry Regiment, CSA. This is not a complete roster of all who served with the unit but a listing of those who were there to surrender at Appomatox. Company I of the 7th Cavalry was formerly Company A of Holcombe's Legion. They were the Claremont Cavalry from Sumter, S.C. Not all in the unit were from Sumter of course, My gggrandfather, Peter Edward Ridgeway of Clarendon County served with this unit. I have a partial transcription of all of the 7th Cavalry's roster. I have been transcribing it from the microfilm when I get a chance to get to Columbia. I am up to the B's. It's long. I also plan to work on Company A, Holcombe's Legion. Cindy

Bill, I can't help with the Rose line but I am interested in the book "History of The Presbyterian Church In SC". Could you tell me something about it and is it still availible? Frank ---------- > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Subject: [SCSUMTER-L] Thomas ROSE, Sr. of Midway Presbyterian Church, Clarendon County > Date: Friday, July 03, 1998 12:39 PM > > I am looking for information on Thomas ROSE, Sr. Howe, "History of the > Presbyterian Church in SC." states that Thomas ROSE, Sr. was (along with John > WITHERSPOON, William McINTOSH, etc.) one of the founders of Midway > Presbyterian Church. > > >From McINTOSH family Bible records, I have gleaned the following: > > 1- Thomas ROSE, Sr. > sp-Agnes WINTER (died 1799) > sp-Martha NETTLES (died 1809) > 2-- Ann ROSE > sp-Jacob W. MILLS > sp-James Gamble McINTOSH > 2-- William ROSE > sp-Sarah SCOTT > 2-- Thomas ROSE, Jr. > sp-Rebecca Ann WITHERSPOON > sp-Sarah SPEIGHTS > > Any information on Thomas ROSE, Sr., his parents, other children, etc. would > be very much appreciated. > > Thanks, > > Bill McINTOSH >

I am looking for information on Thomas ROSE, Sr. Howe, "History of the Presbyterian Church in SC." states that Thomas ROSE, Sr. was (along with John WITHERSPOON, William McINTOSH, etc.) one of the founders of Midway Presbyterian Church. >From McINTOSH family Bible records, I have gleaned the following: 1- Thomas ROSE, Sr. sp-Agnes WINTER (died 1799) sp-Martha NETTLES (died 1809) 2-- Ann ROSE sp-Jacob W. MILLS sp-James Gamble McINTOSH 2-- William ROSE sp-Sarah SCOTT 2-- Thomas ROSE, Jr. sp-Rebecca Ann WITHERSPOON sp-Sarah SPEIGHTS Any information on Thomas ROSE, Sr., his parents, other children, etc. would be very much appreciated. Thanks, Bill McINTOSH

Larry, I would be very interested in any information you might receive on John Kennedy (Kenada) and Cherry Rountree (Roundtree). Thanks much. Marcie Bowen-Astley

You caught me, Engineer's chains are 100 feet I use those quite frequently. I forgot that the surveying half of the profession uses 66 ft. Once the chains were made of Metal and we had to test them every time we used them to make sure the metal hadn't expanded with the heat or shrunk with the cold. With the introduction electronic data collectors we ususally don't use measureing tapes any more, thank heavens. Deborah Byrd -----Original Message----- From: Charles L. Dibble <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Wednesday, July 01, 1998 5:04 PM Subject: Re: [SCSUMTER-L] Metes and bounds >Deborah - >Very helpful. One small correction. As I recall, a chain is 66 feet (not >100 feet). The importance of this measuring unit is its relationship to an >acre. The measurement is derived from an acre [or perhaps it was vice >versa]. But in any event ten square chains equals one acre. Example: 66' >x 660' = 43,560 sq.ft = one acre. > >I believe my g-grandparents' home place sat on a lot that measured two >chains [on the street] by twenty chains ... or 132 feet by 1,320 feet. >Those four acres left enough room for the house and the buggy house and the >various barns ... and a persimmon tree, a scuppernong vine, a few fig trees >etc. > >Thanks too for clarifying that such terms as Sections/Townships/Ranges are >found not along the East Coast but to the west. Straight lines without >regard to natural landmarks. This is common in Mississippi and farther >west... but alien to South Carolina. > >cld >-----Original Message----- >From: Deborah Byrd <[email protected]> >To: [email protected] <[email protected]> >Date: Tuesday, June 30, 1998 08:45 PM >Subject: [SCSUMTER-L] Metes and bounds > > >>Since I haven't seen a discussion on surveying techinques with the thread, >>I'll step into the discussion. >> >>When researching land records in the original 13 colonies, and I believe >>Texas since it enter the Union as an independent Nation, the land will be >>defined using Metes and Bounds. The land corners were the places of metes >>and the bounds defined the lines. The metes could be anything that was >>found in the natural landscape, trees, creeks, hill, etc. some times rock >>cairns were built to locate the corners or turning points in lines. The >>boundary lines are marked by bearing lines. The lines are established >using >>compass bearings so you'll get a number like S89 45 15 E which means South >>89 degress, 45 minutes, 15 secs east. The measurements were cut the North >>or the south with the easterly or westerly direction add at the ends. The >>length of boundary lines were measure in feet, chains, and rods. Chains >are >>100 feet in length, I can't remember what a rod measures, but the number 16 >>feet hangs in my mind. (Been too many years since beginning surveying to >>recall). >> >>After the acquistion of the old northwest territory in 1789, the states of >>Illinois, Indiana, and others, a ordinal system was established to survey >>all newly found land in the United States. The system established >baselines >>call meridians usually one or two per state. From the meridians Range and >>Townships were established. Range were the east - west grid numbers and >the >>Townships were the north - south grid numbers. For example R(ange) 18 >>E(ast) T(township) 10 S(outh) Provided a base coordinate. This area >defined >>a square. Inside the square is divided into Sections 36 sections. Each >>section contains 640 acres and is 1 mile square. The sections are >quartered >>and then the 1/4s are quartered. So you get the SW 1/4 of the NW 1/4 of >>Sec X. R x Tx. >> >>Hope this clarifies the land surveys used in the south >> >>Deborah Byrd >>[email protected] >> > > >

See this site for states with Sections, Townships, and Ranges. This is a "Search Site". Some of my ancestors who owned land in Alabama, I found their land records in Mississippi. May have been because they lived in an Alabama county adjoining Mississippi: http://www.glorecords.blm.gov/ Jimmie Charles L. Dibble wrote: > Deborah - > Very helpful. One small correction. As I recall, a chain is 66 feet (not > 100 feet). The importance of this measuring unit is its relationship to an > acre. The measurement is derived from an acre [or perhaps it was vice > versa]. But in any event ten square chains equals one acre. Example: 66' > x 660' = 43,560 sq.ft = one acre. > > I believe my g-grandparents' home place sat on a lot that measured two > chains [on the street] by twenty chains ... or 132 feet by 1,320 feet. > Those four acres left enough room for the house and the buggy house and the > various barns ... and a persimmon tree, a scuppernong vine, a few fig trees > etc. > > Thanks too for clarifying that such terms as Sections/Townships/Ranges are > found not along the East Coast but to the west. Straight lines without > regard to natural landmarks. This is common in Mississippi and farther > west... but alien to South Carolina. > > cld > -----Original Message----- > From: Deborah Byrd <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] <[email protected]> > Date: Tuesday, June 30, 1998 08:45 PM > Subject: [SCSUMTER-L] Metes and bounds > > >Since I haven't seen a discussion on surveying techinques with the thread, > >I'll step into the discussion. > > > >When researching land records in the original 13 colonies, and I believe > >Texas since it enter the Union as an independent Nation, the land will be > >defined using Metes and Bounds. The land corners were the places of metes > >and the bounds defined the lines. The metes could be anything that was > >found in the natural landscape, trees, creeks, hill, etc. some times rock > >cairns were built to locate the corners or turning points in lines. The > >boundary lines are marked by bearing lines. The lines are established > using > >compass bearings so you'll get a number like S89 45 15 E which means South > >89 degress, 45 minutes, 15 secs east. The measurements were cut the North > >or the south with the easterly or westerly direction add at the ends. The > >length of boundary lines were measure in feet, chains, and rods. Chains > are > >100 feet in length, I can't remember what a rod measures, but the number 16 > >feet hangs in my mind. (Been too many years since beginning surveying to > >recall). > > > >After the acquistion of the old northwest territory in 1789, the states of > >Illinois, Indiana, and others, a ordinal system was established to survey > >all newly found land in the United States. The system established > baselines > >call meridians usually one or two per state. From the meridians Range and > >Townships were established. Range were the east - west grid numbers and > the > >Townships were the north - south grid numbers. For example R(ange) 18 > >E(ast) T(township) 10 S(outh) Provided a base coordinate. This area > defined > >a square. Inside the square is divided into Sections 36 sections. Each > >section contains 640 acres and is 1 mile square. The sections are > quartered > >and then the 1/4s are quartered. So you get the SW 1/4 of the NW 1/4 of > >Sec X. R x Tx. > > > >Hope this clarifies the land surveys used in the south > > > >Deborah Byrd > >[email protected] > >

Deborah - Very helpful. One small correction. As I recall, a chain is 66 feet (not 100 feet). The importance of this measuring unit is its relationship to an acre. The measurement is derived from an acre [or perhaps it was vice versa]. But in any event ten square chains equals one acre. Example: 66' x 660' = 43,560 sq.ft = one acre. I believe my g-grandparents' home place sat on a lot that measured two chains [on the street] by twenty chains ... or 132 feet by 1,320 feet. Those four acres left enough room for the house and the buggy house and the various barns ... and a persimmon tree, a scuppernong vine, a few fig trees etc. Thanks too for clarifying that such terms as Sections/Townships/Ranges are found not along the East Coast but to the west. Straight lines without regard to natural landmarks. This is common in Mississippi and farther west... but alien to South Carolina. cld -----Original Message----- From: Deborah Byrd <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Tuesday, June 30, 1998 08:45 PM Subject: [SCSUMTER-L] Metes and bounds >Since I haven't seen a discussion on surveying techinques with the thread, >I'll step into the discussion. > >When researching land records in the original 13 colonies, and I believe >Texas since it enter the Union as an independent Nation, the land will be >defined using Metes and Bounds. The land corners were the places of metes >and the bounds defined the lines. The metes could be anything that was >found in the natural landscape, trees, creeks, hill, etc. some times rock >cairns were built to locate the corners or turning points in lines. The >boundary lines are marked by bearing lines. The lines are established using >compass bearings so you'll get a number like S89 45 15 E which means South >89 degress, 45 minutes, 15 secs east. The measurements were cut the North >or the south with the easterly or westerly direction add at the ends. The >length of boundary lines were measure in feet, chains, and rods. Chains are >100 feet in length, I can't remember what a rod measures, but the number 16 >feet hangs in my mind. (Been too many years since beginning surveying to >recall). > >After the acquistion of the old northwest territory in 1789, the states of >Illinois, Indiana, and others, a ordinal system was established to survey >all newly found land in the United States. The system established baselines >call meridians usually one or two per state. From the meridians Range and >Townships were established. Range were the east - west grid numbers and the >Townships were the north - south grid numbers. For example R(ange) 18 >E(ast) T(township) 10 S(outh) Provided a base coordinate. This area defined >a square. Inside the square is divided into Sections 36 sections. Each >section contains 640 acres and is 1 mile square. The sections are quartered >and then the 1/4s are quartered. So you get the SW 1/4 of the NW 1/4 of >Sec X. R x Tx. > >Hope this clarifies the land surveys used in the south > >Deborah Byrd >[email protected] >