Hi. Could someone tell me how to get a subscription to the Black River Watchman. Perhaps an address, phone number, or webpage. Thanks, Lonne Stone Heath ----- Original Message ----- From: Mayor Bubba <mayorbubba@sumter.net> To: <SCSUMTER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, January 10, 2000 12:19 PM Subject: Re: [SCSUMTER-L] date needed > Ervin...if this is the same journal that I am thinking about....I got that > 2-3 years ago....the oriignal is in the Archives with copies in the > Genealogial Society.....I have copy here at Bubba > Archives....mayorbubba@sumter.net > -----Original Message----- > From: Ervin Shaw <poptop@usit.net> > To: SCSUMTER-L@rootsweb.com <SCSUMTER-L@rootsweb.com> > Date: Monday, January 10, 2000 11:55 AM > Subject: [SCSUMTER-L] date needed > > > >The Sumter County Genealogical Society's January 2000 issue of The Sumter > >Black River Watchman contains entries from part of The Journal of William > C. > >Stiles which cover months within two years...but the years are not stated. > >Can someone let me know the years contained in that particular issue? > > > >By the way, I have standard genealogy files on many Sumter names at the > URL, > >below. PLUS, there is a 20-page or less story of our Scotch-Irish > >immigrant's trip and times coming to South Carolina from Belfast Northern > >Ireland. Would love any correcting feedback from any real historians on the > >Sumter List. > > > >Ervin & Betty Shaw > >poptop@usit.net Lexington, S. C. > >http://www.public.usit.net/poptop (the whole web site) > >http://www.public.usit.net/poptop/bigstory.html (coming to America story) > > > > > >==== SCSUMTER Mailing List ==== > >Rootsweb has a search engine available for its mailing lists. > >If you don't know which list you'd like to search, check out the list > >of lists hosted by RootsWeb at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~maillist/ > >You can search the message archives of the SCSumter list at: > >http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > > ==== SCSUMTER Mailing List ==== > Rootsweb has a search engine available for its mailing lists. > If you don't know which list you'd like to search, check out the list > of lists hosted by RootsWeb at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~maillist/ > You can search the message archives of the SCSumter list at: > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > >

Faye, Jordan is a small community near both Manning and Davis Station. It is a crossroad on SC 262 towards Santee dam, and extends into the farm area towards Davis Station. Davis Station is between Jordan and Summerton. I have "kinfolks" at that time (and today), in this area of Clarendon...as well as Bloomville, Foreston, Paxville, erc. Dee in SC

Jordan is a crossroads on the road between Manning, SC and the Lake Marion area called Wyboo, as that road heads toward the Lake Marion dam. It is a mile or so before the highway crosses the "first water". There is a church or two and there used to be a store or two. Ervin & Betty Shaw poptop@usit.net Lexington, S. C. my web site http://www.public.usit.net/poptop photo at office http://www.lexmed.com/medical.htm ---------- >From: "Faye L. Dyess" <fdy@gate.net> >To: SCSUMTER-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [SCSUMTER-L] Location-Jordan >Date: Wed, Jan 12, 2000, 7:15 PM > >The Manning Times abstracts mentions the place "Jordan" where many of the >Hodge family live. Exactly where is or was Jordan? > >Thanks >Faye > > >==== SCSUMTER Mailing List ==== >Rootsweb has a search engine available for its mailing lists. >If you don't know which list you'd like to search, check out the list >of lists hosted by RootsWeb at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~maillist/ >You can search the message archives of the SCSumter list at: >http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > >

The Manning Times abstracts mentions the place "Jordan" where many of the Hodge family live. Exactly where is or was Jordan? Thanks Faye

The only way I know is to join the Sumter County Genealogical Society. It's only $15.00 a year. You also get to visit the Genealogical Society free for the year. The address is The Sumter County Genealogical Society, P. O. Box 2543, 219 West Liberty Street, Sumter, South Carolina 29151-2543 Phone number 803-773-9144. The Watchman is always good. Jackie

The NAACP would find that book offensive. If it doesn't agree with their way of thinking then it is not only offensive but racist. I often wonder how they seem to remember and know how their anscestors were treated when I remember nothing about how my anscestors treated them. I didn't even know my anscestors had slaves until I read it in a will about three years ago. Another one of those unanswerable questions.

We hear a lot about this but rarely get the facts. Taken from "Abstracts of the Manning Times, Clarendon, SC" by Deloras Schmidt. Page 15 17 Dec 1890 Died suddenly at Panola last Sunday night, Washington Gaymon, Colored, aged about 75 years. He was a well-to-do farmer and was respected by his neighbors. In 1861 he went into Confederate service as a bugler in the 5th SC Cavalry, Co. H. Faye

Damita: There are a number of people in Clarendon County by name of Halley....I do not know any of them.....suggest you call Maynard Davis in Summerton...he is the local history buff there,.....his number is 803-485-8187.........also you might want to contact Windy Corbett at the Clarendon County Archives.....I don't have her e-mail number but someone will have it......good luck and enjoy your inquries...mayorbubba@sumter.net -----Original Message----- From: Damita Green <dldgreen@hotmail.com> To: SCSUMTER-L@rootsweb.com <SCSUMTER-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Wednesday, January 12, 2000 1:32 PM Subject: [SCSUMTER-L] Halleytown/Hollytown, SC (Clarendon Co)?? >Just had a wonderful interview last night with a new found elderly family >member who gave oodles of information on my SC OLIVERs. She made mention of >a Halleytown/Hollytown (unsure of spelling) that was located about 10-12 >miles outside of Manning, Clarendon Co, SC (in the direction of Summerton). >Apparently this was on present day Hiway 301, on the road that runs from >Summerton to Manning. This is circa 1920-40. She also mentioned that >Elizabeth Baptist Church (outside Manning) was sometimes called Halleytown >Church. I am confused, because it would seem to me that if Halleytown was >10-12 miles outside Manning on the way to Summerton, that would almost be in >Summerton. Anyone familiar with this community? > >Damita Drayton Green >-Traveling on business and doing genealogy, too! >dldgreen@hotmail.com >______________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > >==== SCSUMTER Mailing List ==== >Rootsweb has a search engine available for its mailing lists. >If you don't know which list you'd like to search, check out the list >of lists hosted by RootsWeb at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~maillist/ >You can search the message archives of the SCSumter list at: >http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl

Jordan is approximately 6 miles south of Manning, going toward Lake Marion and the Santee Dam on Highway 260.

Faye, Thanks for the info. Hope you will not object to my passing on to an African-American friend. I understand there was a James Russell who was a freeman and African-American that served in CSA in Walterboro, SC. This info was printed when the NAACP wanted the Confederate Monument at the Walterboro Courthouse removed from the courthouse grounds. Perhaps the Sumter Genealogical Society should look for a copy of LIFE ON THE OLD PLANTATION IN ANTE-BELLUM DAYS written by Rev. I.E. Lowery, a former slave on the Frierson plantation who removed to Columbia, SC. I know this book is out of print but perhaps someone could find it in a specialty shop. I would surely be willing to contribute toward the purchase price. It's likely the book would be of use to our African-American genealogy researchers but the book depicts life in slavery as far less restrictive then most have assumed... Regards, Gene

Hi folks, There have been big doings here in Sumter recently. For those of you who don't receive the Sumter newspaper, here are some links to the website that will be of interest. http://www.theitem.com/city/citydesk7.html http://www.theitem.com/city/citydesk8.html http://www.theitem.com/city/citydesk9.html My nephew and I attended the unveiling of the statue of Thomas Sumter. We walked over with the parade from the museum to the courthouse. I had thought for a while that we wouldn't get to. My brother, Timmie, had an emergency kidney operation Saturday morning and I was at the hospital. Tuomey hospital is across the street from the musuem and Timmie's room happened to face the musuem. My mother and sister in law were able to watch the parade from his window and report to him what they could see. He was still sort of groggy then, but by the time that my nephew and I got back from the unveiling, he was sitting up, having a milkshake. Cindy

Thanks for all the help with the addresses for the FHC's in Florence and Charleston. Unfortunately, I didn't have time to get to the one in Florence on Monday, but will make time soon to get to one of the two. Hope this finds everyone enjoying the New Year! Godspeed... Dolores Pringle Myrtle Beach, SC

Just had a wonderful interview last night with a new found elderly family member who gave oodles of information on my SC OLIVERs. She made mention of a Halleytown/Hollytown (unsure of spelling) that was located about 10-12 miles outside of Manning, Clarendon Co, SC (in the direction of Summerton). Apparently this was on present day Hiway 301, on the road that runs from Summerton to Manning. This is circa 1920-40. She also mentioned that Elizabeth Baptist Church (outside Manning) was sometimes called Halleytown Church. I am confused, because it would seem to me that if Halleytown was 10-12 miles outside Manning on the way to Summerton, that would almost be in Summerton. Anyone familiar with this community? Damita Drayton Green -Traveling on business and doing genealogy, too! dldgreen@hotmail.com ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

How many of you have thought that date couldn't possibly be right. Check out this item from the local Newspaper. This information comes from "Abstracts of the Manning Times Clarendon County, South Carolina" by Delores Schmidt. Page 41 19 March 1890 Mr. Hector Ard of Sammy, only 36 years old yet has 2 grandchildren-the oldest nearly 4. Mr. Ard married before he was 14 years of age. Mr. Ard's father married twice and had 21 children-11 by his first wife were boys and 9 served the Confederacy. DYW

Bubba: Thanks so much. A posting gave me the date I needed. May 2000 be a "best" year for you and yours!! Ervin & Betty Shaw poptop@usit.net Lexington, S. C. http://www.public.usit.net/poptop ---------- >From: "Mayor Bubba" <mayorbubba@sumter.net> >To: SCSUMTER-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [SCSUMTER-L] date needed >Date: Mon, Jan 10, 2000, 12:19 PM > >Ervin...if this is the same journal that I am thinking about....I got that >2-3 years ago....the oriignal is in the Archives with copies in the >Genealogial Society.....I have copy here at Bubba >Archives....mayorbubba@sumter.net >-----Original Message----- >From: Ervin Shaw <poptop@usit.net> >To: SCSUMTER-L@rootsweb.com <SCSUMTER-L@rootsweb.com> >Date: Monday, January 10, 2000 11:55 AM >Subject: [SCSUMTER-L] date needed > > >>The Sumter County Genealogical Society's January 2000 issue of The Sumter >>Black River Watchman contains entries from part of The Journal of William >C. >>Stiles which cover months within two years...but the years are not stated. >>Can someone let me know the years contained in that particular issue? >> >>By the way, I have standard genealogy files on many Sumter names at the >URL, >>below. PLUS, there is a 20-page or less story of our Scotch-Irish >>immigrant's trip and times coming to South Carolina from Belfast Northern >>Ireland. Would love any correcting feedback from any real historians on the >>Sumter List. >> >>Ervin & Betty Shaw >>poptop@usit.net Lexington, S. C. >>http://www.public.usit.net/poptop (the whole web site) >>http://www.public.usit.net/poptop/bigstory.html (coming to America story) >> >> >>==== SCSUMTER Mailing List ==== >>Rootsweb has a search engine available for its mailing lists. >>If you don't know which list you'd like to search, check out the list >>of lists hosted by RootsWeb at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~maillist/ >>You can search the message archives of the SCSumter list at: >>http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > >==== SCSUMTER Mailing List ==== >Rootsweb has a search engine available for its mailing lists. >If you don't know which list you'd like to search, check out the list >of lists hosted by RootsWeb at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~maillist/ >You can search the message archives of the SCSumter list at: >http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > >

The article from the Stiles diary is continued from December, 1999, which was up to 1896. Sorry, I should have put that at the top of the page. About half-way down the first column on page 7 you'll see where 1897 begins. It's right between December 31 and Jan 2nd. Nancy Hughes ----- Original Message ----- From: Ervin Shaw <poptop@usit.net> To: <SCSUMTER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, January 10, 2000 11:55 AM Subject: [SCSUMTER-L] date needed > The Sumter County Genealogical Society's January 2000 issue of The Sumter > Black River Watchman contains entries from part of The Journal of William C. > Stiles which cover months within two years...but the years are not stated. > Can someone let me know the years contained in that particular issue? > > By the way, I have standard genealogy files on many Sumter names at the URL, > below. PLUS, there is a 20-page or less story of our Scotch-Irish > immigrant's trip and times coming to South Carolina from Belfast Northern > Ireland. Would love any correcting feedback from any real historians on the > Sumter List. > > Ervin & Betty Shaw > poptop@usit.net Lexington, S. C. > http://www.public.usit.net/poptop (the whole web site) > http://www.public.usit.net/poptop/bigstory.html (coming to America story) >

Sorry to contact you this way, but my computer is on the "fritz", and I don't have your e-mail address. Your Evergreen Memorial Park Cemetery book went in the mail today. Dee

How can I get a copy of the Evergreen Cemetery Book? Ralph F. McCathern 527 Carrol Dr. Sumter, SC 29150-4413 803-773-6916 E-mail: RMccat2191@aol.com

Ervin...if this is the same journal that I am thinking about....I got that 2-3 years ago....the oriignal is in the Archives with copies in the Genealogial Society.....I have copy here at Bubba Archives....mayorbubba@sumter.net -----Original Message----- From: Ervin Shaw <poptop@usit.net> To: SCSUMTER-L@rootsweb.com <SCSUMTER-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Monday, January 10, 2000 11:55 AM Subject: [SCSUMTER-L] date needed >The Sumter County Genealogical Society's January 2000 issue of The Sumter >Black River Watchman contains entries from part of The Journal of William C. >Stiles which cover months within two years...but the years are not stated. >Can someone let me know the years contained in that particular issue? > >By the way, I have standard genealogy files on many Sumter names at the URL, >below. PLUS, there is a 20-page or less story of our Scotch-Irish >immigrant's trip and times coming to South Carolina from Belfast Northern >Ireland. Would love any correcting feedback from any real historians on the >Sumter List. > >Ervin & Betty Shaw >poptop@usit.net Lexington, S. C. >http://www.public.usit.net/poptop (the whole web site) >http://www.public.usit.net/poptop/bigstory.html (coming to America story) > > >==== SCSUMTER Mailing List ==== >Rootsweb has a search engine available for its mailing lists. >If you don't know which list you'd like to search, check out the list >of lists hosted by RootsWeb at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~maillist/ >You can search the message archives of the SCSumter list at: >http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl

The Sumter County Genealogical Society's January 2000 issue of The Sumter Black River Watchman contains entries from part of The Journal of William C. Stiles which cover months within two years...but the years are not stated. Can someone let me know the years contained in that particular issue? By the way, I have standard genealogy files on many Sumter names at the URL, below. PLUS, there is a 20-page or less story of our Scotch-Irish immigrant's trip and times coming to South Carolina from Belfast Northern Ireland. Would love any correcting feedback from any real historians on the Sumter List. Ervin & Betty Shaw poptop@usit.net Lexington, S. C. http://www.public.usit.net/poptop (the whole web site) http://www.public.usit.net/poptop/bigstory.html (coming to America story)