----- HARRIS- ALLEN MRS. EDNA RICHARDSON HARRIS announces the marriage of her daughter, EDNA EARL to MR. JOEL I. ALLEN, Jr. on Dec.17,  Chick Springs. ----- I suspect that this Joel I. Allen is the son of Joel Isham Allen from the lower part of the state. If he is, he is part of my late husband's family. His father, Joel Isham Allen, Sr. was instrumental in helping Furman University in the early 1900's. I am including herein a bit about the senior Joel Isham Allen. (His father was the Rev. Joel Allen, II of Marions County, SC.) I thought you might find the following info of interest. (This, of course, is assuming the Joel I. Allen mentioned in the 1919 paper is of this family and I believe that he is. Joel had a son named Joel I. Allen, born about 1895 which would fit age-wise.): Like his father, Joel Isham Allen was a preacher but depended somewhat on farming for his livelihood. He was ordained to the ministry August  7, 1884 at Catfish Baptist Church where he was a member but continued to preach at Dillon from time to time. He served Judson, Clio and Little Rock in addition to Catfish. He attended Washington and Lee University in Virginia. After the church at Dillon was organized a pastor was chosen but he stayed only about a year and then Joel became pastor from 1890  to 1902. He resided in Dillon. The church grew from 36 members at the end of 1892 to 66  in 1896. A  brick church was erected and the pastor's salary was increased from $55 annually to $425. Then in 1898 and 1899 it was $450.  This church was always important to his family. Weddings and funerals were held there. His son, Merritt Allen, served it as clerk, deacon, and Sunday school superintendent for the Pee Dee Baptist Association for many years. About the end of 1902, Joel resigned at Dillon. A member of his church, J.W. King, and Joel suggested to the Pee Dee Baptist Association that $100,000 be raised to help Furman University with its financial difficulties. The plan was adopted by the State Convention and Joel was appointed to take charge of the campaign which he carried to a successful conclusion. President W.J. McGlothlin of Furman University said that Joel rendered a supreme and absolutely necessary service to the institution at that time and in doing so, of course, rendered a tremendous service to the Baptist denomination. He said that Furman was on the verge of complete financial collapse and that Joel Allen by his unselfish devotion and his great earnestness succeeded in raising the amount necessary to save Furman and thus turned the last dangerous corner in the history of the institution. He said that no man ever rendered a larger service to  Furman than Joel I. Allen. He was awarded an honorary degree in June of 1924. He did not think much of honorary degrees and did not attend the commencement exercises to receive the degree. He was a long-time trustee of Coker College and Furman University. >From 1907 to 1909 and again from 1912  to 1924, he served at Bear Swamp Baptist Church. He was a Trustee at Coker College Board. He was offered the Presidencey of Furman College in South Carolina. Maxine Quinn Allen

I remember my Great Aunt Ocia Jolley Huskey telling me about her father. When I ask her about Selinus Jolley, who was born 1875 , one of the first things that she told me about him was that he would take a stick and scratch the back of the fireplace. This was where they would be able to see where Santa Clause had came down the chimney. Some of my best memories of Christmas, was the ones spent at my Grandfather Bud Henderson's on Christmas Eve. All the children, grandchildren and great-grandchildren would all gather there. There was always lots of food and presents. And so many people you could not move. Grandfather and grandmother are gone now, but the family still get together sometime in Dec. at Buck Creek Church fellowship building. It is good to still be able to get together but it is not the same as when we were children 50 years ago. Wishing everyone a Merry Christmas and Happy New Year Nancie, just wanted to thank you for all you do. Judy Carver

One of my fondest memories of Christmas occurred in 1945. There was snow on the ground and it was up to my knees as we walked over to my grandparents log house with daddy holding my hand. Mama carried my little sister who was all coved up with a quilt. As we went inside the smell of peppermint filled our cold noses. Grandma had baked a yellow two layer cake with white icing and sprinkled crushed peppermint on the top. I've never smelled another kitchen as good as her's smelled that day. I was three years old at the time and it's my first memory of what Christmas was like in the country during the 1940's - good food, laughter and lots of love. All this with a wood stove, no running water, no electricity and an outhouse. Keep the Christmas stories coming. They're wonderful! Merry Christmas!!! Frances

[ This will be the last post for a while] Marriage Record ARTHUR WESTON JONES of Staughton, Mass. and EMMA JAMES MARTIN, Union- Dec.6. - BURNETT ALEXANDER CALDWELL and STELLA PARHAM, both of Sptbg.-Dec. 6. - STEPHEN WOODSON BURNETT and LURIE KENT, both of Sptbg.- Dec.5. ----- PAULINE-Dec.17 On account of the bad weather the choir practice was held at the home of MRS. SILAS SHANDS, Sat. night. - MR. EDWARD ALLEN of Sptbg. spent Sunday with his sister, MRS. W.A.B. SMITH. - School will be closed here Friday for the holidays, there will be a Christmas tree in the afternoon. A special program has been arranged, everyone cordially invited. - OLIVER SHANDS and CLYDE KIRBY of Akron, Ohio, are visiting their parents here. - EARLE SMITH spent Sunday with LANEAR SELLARS. - MRS. W.L. MILLER delightfully entertained the teachers of Glenn Springs this week-end. - MR. CHARLIE MORROW spent Sunday with CURTIS SELLARS. - MRS. W.W. MILLER had as her guest Sunday, MISSES MARIE HARRISON and ERRAL MARTIN. ----- SPARTANBURG BOYS RISING IN NAVY Dec.20.- The following boys, who enlisted at Spartanburg has been promoted. - HERMAN A. McABEE who is on the destroyer 'Warrington', has been advanced from seaman, second class to seaman. McAbee enlisted Feb 6. His home is in Fairmont, in this county. - JOSEPH F. CARSWELL, attached to the minesweeper " Quail" has been promoted to fireman, second class. Carswell hails from Drayton Mill. - CURTIS E. McINTYRE, Campobello serving at naval hospital at Charleston was advanced from second class in hospital apprentice, first class. ----- The Marriage Record DIAZ ALLEN JENNINGS and LEOLA BEATRICE STEPHENS, both of Sptbg. -Dec. 23. - JOHN FREDERIC VISE, Moore and VESLULA FOSTER, Woodruff- Dec.21. - CROWELL REID, Gramling and NETTIE BLACKWELL, Inman- Dec.21. - JAMES CAPERS MOORE of St. Matthews and CREOLE MABEL BURNETT, Sptbg.- Dec.22. - DUWARD WIGGINS, Sptbg. and DEBORA MONTGOMERY, Switzer - Dec. 21. - THOMAS JEFFERSON PEARSON and CLARA HUDSON, both of Greer- Dec. 21. - MACK MaHAFFEY and PEARL HOWELL, both of Greer - Dec. 21. - CALVIN ROBERT BRICE and ERMA ROSIE HELTON, both of Columbus, Ga.- Dec. 22. - CLAUDE EUGENE MOORE, Clinton and LILLIE MAY BROWN, Enoree- Nov. 5. - WILLIAM LANDRUM TINER and CLARA EDNA TURNER, both of Sptbg.- Nov. 7. - TAYLOR CHRISTOPHER RAINES and LILLIE MAY BELLEW, both of Inman- Dec.21- - GUS HALL and MAUDE DUNCAN, both of Arkwright- Dec. 20. - THEODORE POWELL, Moore and ANNIE VANCE PRINCE, Inman- Dec.22. - COAN MONROE DAVIS, Reidville and LILLIE MAE ROGERS, Switzer- Dec. 21. - JAMES MATTON BRUCE, Greer and MILDRED HOWELL, Wellford- Dec.21. - GROVER BOWMAN, Sptbg. and JULIA LYLES, Inman- Dec.22. ----- THE CURIOUS MISTLETOE There are about 300 kinds of mistletoe in the world, and each variety grows on the branches of trees and has little white or pink berries, says St. Nicholas. The gathering of mistletoe was a very important ceremony among the ancient Druids...no mention of a kiss ! ----- Merry Christmas to ALL, Nancie

I remember a christmas in the late 1940's when Santa came early. He brought in the presants, then we all set on his lap for him to give us ours. I got a pair of wool pants that year. I just found out 10 years ago that there was a poor family in town, The families paid the father 25 cents to bring the presants from the lawn into the house. This helped that family have a christmas also. I don't know which is the nicest memory. Seeing Santa or knowing how it helped someone else. Sally

Thank you to each of you who took the time to send me the addresses that I needed for the genealogical societies in the area. It is greatly appreciated! My Christmas money is already in the mail to them for 2003! God bless, and I hope that each of you will have a Christmas filled with love and happy memories made with those you cherish! Dolores Miller Pringle Myrtle Beach, SC

Robert MILLER died Spartanburg 1765 left a will naming his children and wife Mary: Elizabeth 1726 m. Adam MEEK, Mary m. Wm. Neely d. York co sc, Hannah or Ann m. Cpt Alexander Lewis, James m. Mary NEELY, Robert Jr.m. Rachel, Nathaniel b. 1738 Ireland m. Elizabeth Colson went to south GA, John m. Margaret Fairbanks he also died 1765. Want to discuss these fine people? Charles Go Ahead! Make my day, talk to me about genealogy and my family.Charles the bonedigger.

As a child growing up in the late 50s & early 60s I was exposed to many more material things than my parents during their childhood. Mom & Dad tried to provide all the "latest" toys & clothing for my brother & me, but on the income of Southern mill workers this was more often than not impossible. The children of the professionals & white collar workers on the "other side of the tracks" may have received more store bought toys and clothes, but by brother and I cherished each & everything we received. Both of us still have the majority of the toys, games, dolls, and the bicycle we received as children. Yet my best memory isn't of a toy, it's of the anticipation. We grew up in a duplex "shotgun" style apartment, you know the type, four rooms straight back. To get to the living room from our shared room you had to cross thru my parent's bedroom. We'd hang our stockings by the window (no fireplace), mine on the right side of the tree, brother Gene's on the left, and Mom would bundle us up in our bunk beds by heating our pillows on the oil heater, and we'd giggle & toss & turn as long as we could while watching the sky thru our window. We tried for years to see Santa's sleigh. Finally we'd nod off and always awaken very early & try to tiptoe to the living room. Some years Mom would catch us & send us back to bed for a while telling us Santa hadn't come & if were were in the living room he might not stop, other years she'd let us go, then when we turned on the Christmas tree she & Dad would get up too. We all opened our gifts, played for a little while then Gene & I were allowed to take one gift back to bed with us. One year he took his toy rifle. The sheer joy of tiptoeing into that living room with only the streetlight outside to guide us, is the best of my memories. Sure wish today's children could know that feeling. Merry Christmas, Judith "Judy" Parker-Proctor

I agree with Sandy, this was a great idea. I never knew any of my grandparents as they had all passed away before I was born. So I am really enjoying reading these with tears in my eyes. I hope my two young grandchildren will have wonderful memories like these that have been shared. Keep 'em coming. Merry Christmas listers ( probably to many of my unknown cousins) Judy Curtis Jackson NC

My Dad, born in 1926, was the 4th of 12 children born to a tenant farmer & his wife in rural NC. They grew the food they ate and worked the fields from the time they could walk. The children made their own playthings, commercial toys were few and far between. Dad paid for his first bicycle in installments with money he earned with a small patch of cotton my Grandpa allowed him to work. At Christmas there were no trees or decorations, but Dad & his siblings, like children everywhere were filled with excitement and slept very little on Christmas Eve. Their stockings were filled with candies, oranges and other fruits & nuts not available year round, but the most exciting happening was a their visit from Santa. They always found the "proof" that Santa had paid them a visit..............marks from the sleigh runners! Yes Santa's sleigh always left tracks when he visited the Parker family in Cleveland County, NC. Did Great-Grandpa Morrison really make those marks or did Santa actually visit these little children who were so poor in material things but rich in the love of their family? Judith Parker-Proctor

I for one really enjoyed the last two "letters" So many times on these list, people get mad because things are posted, other than "Genealogy" .....But, Genealogy is more than dates or facts, it is the memories, it is the stories of our ancestors that is impossible to know by only dates and facts......Reading the last two letters brought my grandparents back to life as the memories were opened to another time and of my own childhood....I remember my great-grandparents, both born in the late 1800s and I believe that a true Genealogy record or book should include those memories for later generations to read and to know their roots......Thanks for sharing.....

The Christmas that I remember most was when I was four in 1935. We lived on Cemetery Street in Greer. The street has been renamed to Bearden. I got a little stove, cook set and tea set, with fruit, raisens and candy. I still have the little stove. When I was five we had moved to the Pleasant Hill Community. I remember my grandpa and grandma Greene gave me and my sister a chalk dog and rabbit that had been won at the fair. When I was six I got a doll that I named "Aunt Becky" for my grandmother Hart's sister, Becky Stokes, because I left it in our playhouse, outside and it rained on it and it was still pretty but looked old. I got a New Testment since I was learning to read. I remember my daddy getting me on his lap and teaching me to read a verse. This was the last year I had my daddy as he died at age 29, when I was six. I read and reread that verse so much the the New Testament automatically opened to that verse. That verse was John 14:1--Let not your heart be troubled; ye believe in God, believe also in me. Daurice Greene Snow ________________________________________________________________ Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today Only $9.95 per month! Visit www.juno.com

Hi All! Merry Christmas! Here are a few words written by my beloved grandmother about Christmas - under the heading of: I Remember My Daddy: My greatest, most wonderful memories of him first, above all, is Christmas. How he loved holly. He knew exactly when the berries would turn from green to red. Then he would tells us, "I know where there's plenty of pretty holly this time." We lived and waited for that day when we went to get the holly. We did not decorate as early as people do now, but it stayed up for a week after Christmas. Holly boughs went over the curtains, pictures, and mirrors. There was a huge pile of wood --hauled, sawed, and ready for Christmas. The best of all was the search for the Christmas tree. He knew a pretty tree, but he would try to con one "out of shape" on me. When I said "no," he would fuss, but keep on walking until we found the near perfect tree as possible. There was always lots of baking and extra cooking for Christmas. On Christmas Eve, Daddy would always say "It's time to get the hammer and nails to hang up the stockings". That old mantle is gone now since the remodeling, but how proud I am I didn't have to grow up in a house where the mantle was too fine to have nails for stockings. There would be five hanging there. My presents would be around the tree and Mother, Daddy, Mama (Daddy's Mother) and Uncle Layton placed their chairs in their familiar places for their gifts. I could never sleep, but if I made it 'till three or four, Daddy would look to see if Santa Claus had come. Of course, he always had. Then he built a warm fire and we all dressed before we went to see our gifts. Then after all the excitement of looking and the new doll, a big fire was built in the kitchen and breakfast was cooked. Daddy's statement was always, "We had a good Christmas this year". For days, all of Christmas week, we went to Christmas dinners. Big fires, popcorn, peanuts, persimmon beer added to these good times. The above Christmas memories were made in Southern Spartanburg County. Just remember all the loving things you do with your families this Holiday Season will one day be warmly remembered. Merry Christmas Y'all! God Bless, Lisa Burns Spartanburg, SC

I would appreciate any help on Alsa Bogan c 1820 to 5-1894 married to Sarah Jane Davis 7-1834 to c 1937.

Since all of us have our minds on the holidays, and not genealogical research, let's use the time until January first to share our own Christmas stories. How did your family celebrate the Holidays? What stories did your parents and grandparents tell you of their childhood Christmas traditions? That's not even really off-topic, is it? Isn't genealogy all about family history? I wish the best of everything for you and yours this Holiday Season. And when you say your prayers please be sure to remember the Americans who are far from home and family this year guarding our freedom to practice our own traditions. Your list mom, Mildred "Mickey" Fournier PO Box 1967, Lake City, FL 32056 mailto:mfournier@atlantic.net

Mickey, What a wonderful idea. I would like to share this. I can recall my mother talking about one year that their family was not doing well financially. They went to bed with no tree, no gifts, little food on Christmas Eve. She was old enough that she can recall hearing a noise and got up to look out the window. With her nose pressed against the window in a cold room with her bare feet on the cold floor she watched as box after box was unloaded and brought into her home. She rushed back to bed in fear that "Santa" would know that she was awake and not continue the work. The next morning they were awaken by her parents and there in the front room of their warm home was a tree brightly light with gifts underneath it for all the children. They opened packages with tears of joy and excitement as their mother began to prepare the meal that was left for them. This was in the late 1930's. The tradition held as the family grew older. One of my fondest memories of Christmas was when as a child we were able to help a family under similar circumstances. The same children that sat opening gifts in wonder on a Christmas morn surprised a family that had no tree or gifts and little food on Christmas eve. They delivered on Christmas Eve night a tree and all the trimmings. Gifts and food. We knew the family well. We were all overjoyed when we saw their excitement over their " Santa". Keep in mind when you do things for others you never know the impact of what you leave behind. I will always be forever greatful of the Santa that left my mother her doll in the 1930's She could have been no more than 5-6. Because of that, Christmas has always been a special time in our lives. Debrah Cantrell Frazier

Can anyone help me with an Alfred C. Cook from the Boiling Springs area who married to a Seay....Thanks

H.B. SNOW Expires While Fox Hunting Dec.17.- While hunting foxes with a party of friends between Reidville and Switzer, H. BARKSDALE SNOW, prominent Reidville citizen suddendly collapsed and died within a short time. Heart trouble is believed to have been responsible. MR. SNOW was 72 years old is survived by a large family. He was well known throughout this section. Funeral services will be conducted tomorrow at Sharon Methodist church, near Reidville. His death is the second to occur among fox hunters in this section during the season. MR. SNOW died while seated in an automobile with friends who accompanied him on the hunt. ----- NEWS NOTES Dec.24.- Prof. and MRS. W.H. GARRISON of Orangeburg, spent Saturday with the former's aunt, MRS. S.C. BURRESS .[ should this be Burgess ?] - McHUGH- JOHNSON MARRIAGE MISS RUBY McHUGH and MR. JUNIOR LEROY JOHNSON were quietly married Sunday afternoon, in the parsonage of the Bethlehem Baptist church of Roebuck.The bride was prominent in the social set of Roebuck and Spartanburg. She wore a dress of blue brocade satin with gray accessories. The groom is well known young man in this city and connected with the city fire dept. Immediately after the ceremony they left for a honeymoon trip to Charleston and Savannah. They will make their home on West Henry street. - ADAIR WRIGHT of Gainesville, Ga. is the guest of her parents, MR. and MRS. W.D. WRIGHT. - MR. E.B. LOYLESS and family motored to the city from Florence to be the guests of MR. LOYLESS' mother, MRS. S.E. LOYLESS on Front Street. - MR. J.H. NOLEN and son, HOWARD, leave Wednesday for Danville, Va. where they will be the guest of A.C. NOLEN for a few days. ------ BANKS TO REMAIN OPEN ON XMAS EVE In order that their patrons may not be compelled to keep money in their homes or offices on Christmas Day, all banks of the city will remain open from 6am to 7pm Christmas Eve. { Wow, can't imagine!} ----- BETHEL PASTOR IS VICTIM OF THIEF After a rest of a little more than 24 hours, Sptbg.'s little coterie of automobile thieves 'got busy', again last night, the police announced and REV. R.F. MORRIS, pastor of Bethel Methodist church , is missing a Buick car. His car was stolen last night from its parking place at the corner of Church and Henry streets. The stolen car is a 1923 model, with a state license no. 2943. ----- MILLS CLOSE FOR XMAS HOLIDAYS- Dec.23 Practically all of the mills in the vicinty of Sptbg. ceased operations at noon today and will remain closed until Wed.morning in order that their employees may enjoy the Christmas season. Employees will be given ample opportunity to do their shopping and will return to work only after Christmas day has passed. It is understood that several mills will provide or assist in providing some kind of appropriate Christmas cheer for their employees. ----- ROBERT WINGO SHOT ON HUNTING TRIP The condition of Robert Wingo, 20 year old Inman youth who was shot in the face by a shotgun said to have been accidentally discharged yesterday afternoon, was said at the General hospital today to be ' as good as could be expected'. Accompanied by two young men from Inman, WINGO is said to have been squirrel hunting. Whose gun was discharged is not known here. The load of shot entered the left side of Wingo's face, causing a serious wound. First aid was given the wounded youth at Inman and he then was brought to the hospital here. ----- WEATHER FORECAST High- 60 Lowest- 33 ----- CHRISTMAS TREE AT Associate Reformed Presbyterian Church Impressive Exercises Held Last Night; Children of Church stage Pageant. About 25 or 30 children and under the direction of MRS. BLACK, MRS. M.B. CLINTON and MRS. G.L. KERR presented a pageant based upon portions of the second chapter of Luke and second chapter of Matthew. Candles were placed in the windows and decorated tastefully....a bright star suspended from the top of the organ.....organ music were conducted by MRS. W.B. LAWSON. At the close of the exercise Santa Claus was present, and handed out gifts... [ I remember our Methodist church at Drayton Mill did the same and Santa handed out big bags of fruit and candy to each family. We all walked home after the services and got into bed quickly cause he was to come again during the night!]. ----- Free post- nancie

Dec.17, 1919 .......A CHRISTMAS TOAST Here's gladness to everyone-open your hearts to it all year round-don't keep them closed until you are shamed into prying them open with a jimmy on Christmas- make every day a Christmas day- get rid of your grouch-throw it overboard and don't throw out a lifeline if it cries to be saved-let it drown-it will do the poor thing good. { Wish we knew who wrote this, maybe the Editor ?} ----- NEWS NOTES MRS. GUY BROWN and children, of Eltawah, Tenn. are the guests of MR. and MRS. J.D. BROWN. - MISS HANNAH CROOK of Montevallo, Ala. arrived to spend the holidays with MR. and MRS. REYNOLDS CROOK at their new home on Lucas Court. - MRS. R.D. LEWIS left today for a visit to relatives in Conway, S.C. - J.J. BROWN of Waverly, Ill., is spending the Christmas holidays with his parents, MR. and MRS. J.D. BROWN . - MR. and MRS. ELMER HIGH of High Point, N.C. are visiting MR. and MRS. M.C. HIGH on Evins Street. - MRS. J.A. LITTLEJOHN will leave this week to visit her daughter, MRS. H.H. BAXTER in Charleston, S.C. - REV. LUTHER L. PAINTER of Eldridge, Ala. is spending Christmas with friends in Sptbg. - MRS. C.R. PARHAM leaves tonight for St. Augustine, Fla., to visit her daughter, MRS. J.W. SIMMONS. - MISS MARY H. LAW will leave for Anderson to visit her sister, MRS. FRANK WATKINS. - WOMAN AND CHILD SERIOUSLY BURNED MRS. J. BENNETT and her four year old son, WILSON, were seriously burned this morning by the explosion of a can of kerosene oil at the Wilson home in the Cannons Campground community. The family is a prominent one in the neighborhood and many friends are anxious about their condition. The report from the Good Samaritan hospital says apparently the lad is more seriously burned. Accompanying MRS. BENNET and her son to the hospital were her parents, MR. and MRS. J.J. JONES. ----- FIRE CRACKERS IN STREETS Yesterday the crackers were popping lustily. It was clear that some body was violating the ordinance. The police made an investigation and the results was that cases were made out against ED WOFFORD, DURAN McCLUSKY, JEROME McCLUSKY and HENRY SMITH. The front bench in the police court room was filled from end to end when the boys were called up this morning. MAYOR FLOYD repeated his previous warning and told the lads just what the rules were. He then told them to go home and enjoy themselves during the holidays but to remember that they were only to shoot fireworks only in residential yards. ------ WEDDING INVATIONS- December 7. MR. and MRS. THOMAS L. WEST request the pleasure of your prescence at the marriage of their daughter, THELMA to MR. OTIS E. RIDGEWAY, Dec.13th at the residence on Arlington Ave., Greenville. ----- HARRIS- ALLEN MRS. EDNA RICHARDSON HARRIS announces the marriage of her daughter, EDNA EARL to MR. JOEL I. ALLEN, Jr. on Dec.17, Chick Springs. ----- Free post- nancie

The Pinckney Dist. Chap. has not published a quarterly since June 2001. You may want to check with SCGS to determine the status of the Chapter. ----- Original Message ----- From: <g.k.williams@charter.net> To: <SCSPARTA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 10:14 PM Subject: [SCSPARTA] Pinckney District Chapter, SCGS > The Pinckney District Chapter, SC Genealogical Society, P.O. Box 5281, Spartanburg, SC 29304 > > Associate dues are $15. > > Serves Cherokee, Spartanburg, and Union SC counties. > > Gayle >