To this end, researchers with British roots should read ALBION'S SEED - FOUR BRITISH FOLKWAYS IN AMERICA, by David Hackett Fischer. Oxford University Press - 1989. It is one of the finest books ever written on this subject. Mary ----- Original Message ----- From: <SCSAND99@aol.com> To: <SCSPARTA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2003 1:50 AM Subject: [SCSPARTA] HOW WE GOT HERE... > Since we are all on this site for one common reason: family history... it > may be interesting to note how our ancestors were "brought" to this wonderful > country. > > Research not only the names and dates of those who put their foot for the > first time on this soil, but research to find out WHY they came. > > Some of us are here enjoying the freedoms of this nation certainly by the > Hand of Providence in the guise of religious freedom, slavery, exiled > prisoners, potato famine, political assylum.... on and on. > > I often ask myself "What would it have taken for me to make such a drastic > move and adjustment?" > > In looking back at how our forefathers came to America, no matter the means, > you and I reap the benefit of much sacrifice on their part. I'm sure there > are stories out there but I've never heard the one about arriving here with > lots of money and opportunities falling in their lap. > > Proud to be an American and proud of my heritage....warts and all. Honor > and all. > > > Don't give up. Enjoy the journey. > WHITE SANDERS DORMAN LATHAM DESTAFFINO DAVIS RAY LONG WILSON RAMSEY > > Visit my site ...Shaking My Family Tree > http://members.aol.com/CampCP/index1.html > > Priscilla White Perry > SCSand99@aol.com > > > ==== SCSPARTA Mailing List ==== > The South Carolina Archives has put some record indices on line: http://www.archivesindex.sc.gov/search/default.asp You can find information there to order the actual records. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

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Robert MILLER died Mecklenburg 1765 actually lived on the banks of the Tyger Rivers in Spartanburg CO. Robert's sons all lived for a while in Spartanburg. James 1725-1795 died Spartanburg John 1730- 1766 died Spartanburg Nathaniel 1738 Ireland left Spartnaburg about 1759 went to GA Then robert Jr. lived Spartanburg If you descend from these guys let's talk about them and swap and share info Charles

Hi Everyone: I am working on Moore and Meadows in Spartanburg Co. Have a great day! Janet Moore -----Original Message----- From: Pat Webster [mailto:pwebster@altamaha.net] Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2003 9:14 PM To: SCSPARTA-L@rootsweb.com Subject: {not a subscriber} RE: [SCSPARTA] Roll Call Here are some of my Spartanburg families that I'm working on right now: Beaty Cox Sherbert Harvey Dameron Pat Beaty Webster

Since we are all on this site for one common reason: family history... it may be interesting to note how our ancestors were "brought" to this wonderful country. Research not only the names and dates of those who put their foot for the first time on this soil, but research to find out WHY they came. Some of us are here enjoying the freedoms of this nation certainly by the Hand of Providence in the guise of religious freedom, slavery, exiled prisoners, potato famine, political assylum.... on and on. I often ask myself "What would it have taken for me to make such a drastic move and adjustment?" In looking back at how our forefathers came to America, no matter the means, you and I reap the benefit of much sacrifice on their part. I'm sure there are stories out there but I've never heard the one about arriving here with lots of money and opportunities falling in their lap. Proud to be an American and proud of my heritage....warts and all. Honor and all. Don't give up. Enjoy the journey. WHITE SANDERS DORMAN LATHAM DESTAFFINO DAVIS RAY LONG WILSON RAMSEY Visit my site ...Shaking My Family Tree http://members.aol.com/CampCP/index1.html Priscilla White Perry SCSand99@aol.com

Not to beat a dying dog to death.... Just thought I'd mention I had a teacher in grammar school who was ancient then (I'm ancient now!). Anyway, in teaching history of that war she stated "no true Southerner refers to it as the Civil War but rather the War Between the States." I think if was a matter of heritage and pride. The word "civil" must have had a negative image to Southerners. I'm from Gaffney, btw, and have always remembered what that teacher said and correct myself when discussing the War. Don't give up. Enjoy the journey. WHITE SANDERS DORMAN LATHAM DESTAFFINO DAVIS RAY LONG WILSON RAMSEY Visit my site ...Shaking My Family Tree http://members.aol.com/CampCP/index1.html Priscilla White Perry SCSand99@aol.com

I am researching these names in Spartanburg, Union and York Counties: Black McDowell Foster Lancaster Kirby Means Roddey Wyatt Schoppaul Storey Tinsley Kirby Thanks Connie BLACK Draper

Main 4 Maternal surnames Spartanburg, Greenville Counties of SC: Peace, Pitman, Morris, Gosnell Also: Ballew, Barnett, Barton, Cantrell, Fisher, Hammond, Harris, Harrison, Hightower, Lindsey, McElrath, Moss, Plumley, and more! Main 4 Paternal surnames Cleveland, Rutherford, Lincoln, Gaston Counties of NC: Parker, Cogdell, Morrison, Green Also: Buchanan, Craft, Devine, Farmer, Hamrick, Horn, McEntire, McKinney, Mode, Moss, Proctor, Taylor, Whitworth, Weathers, and more! Judith Parker-Proctor JPProctor@carolina.r.com

Above is a list of my Spartanburg County interests. My direct lines were gone west by 1820. Mildred "Mickey" Fournier PO Box 1967, Lake City, FL 32056 mailto:mfournier@atlantic.net

Evelyne Crocker

"The Free Lance" Issue: May 27, 1904 pt. 2 {This is somewhat hard to read} REVOLUTIONARY SKETCH Where'n Figure Prominent Names in the County To the Editor of the Free Lance, At the beginning of the war for American independence South Carolina as well as the other colonies was badly torn with internal strife. Her people were not unanimous in their opposition to the mother country. A great many of her citizens, even after she had declared herself a sovereign state, retained unswervingly their allegiance to King George. This state of affairs predominated especially in the up country. The reason for this is obvious. Unlike the people living nearer the coast who were in a more direct communication with the outside world the people lived to themselves. They enjoyed all the liberty their natures demanded. The decree of a bigoted king and an overbearing, parliament never reached their ears, or at least never affected their life. Not a pound of England's taxed tea ever penetrated the wilderness between Charleston and the piedmont. The nicer distinctions between civil liberty and submission to the grinding heel of the tyrant were not noticed or did not appeal to a great many of them. Although DRAYTON's mission to the upcountry was in a measure successful yet many failed to support the new order of things, and remained loyal to Great Britain some for reasons of duty and principle and others supported King George because they considered it good policy. Those of the latter class, in fact might have been found on either side as an engagement always brought then to the side of the victors, During the seven years of war communities were divided against themselves as each one contained champions of the opposing sides. There lived on the banks of the Tyger several families of prominence who were to play an active part in the struggle that was coming on with the mother country, These were LEWELLEN, the YOUNGS, the LANGSTONS, the MUSGROVES, and the WOFFORDS. These families had always been the best of friends. All of these families with the exception of the YOUNGS were uncompromising whigs. While the YOUNGS chose to remain loyal to Britain. However, cupid ignored the political differences existing between love with Miss Martha LEWELLEN, the daughter of Maj. John LEWELLEN. Unfortunately for Nat his good taste was confirmed by Joseph WOFFORD, who lost his heart on the same object. There was considerable rivalry between the two young men and for some time the result seemed doubtful. But at last Joseph won the coveted prize. He made Martha his wife. The hearts of both husband and wife were wrapped up in the contest that was coming on and each one devoted every power that they possessed to further the cause of their country. The young couple soon after they were married, settled down the north bank of Tyger river near the old Hill Shoal which place Joseph owned and he operated a mill at this place. The house stood upon the hill and commanded a view of the ford. From this elevation the young wife was able to watch the ford, and advantage of considerable measure in those troublesome times. Soon after they were married the war came on. Joseph wad heart and sould for the American cause and in this sentiment Martha joined heartily. No sooner had hostilities began when Joseph went to do active service. He went to work immediately and raised a company of which he was captain. With these men he engaged war with the tories. Sometimes they would be in their own neighborhood, sometimes they would go off on campaigns and be gone for several days. Now let us follow the fortunes of Nat Young. [note- edge cut off * inserted] After Joseph WOFFORD had won Martha LEWELLEN for his wife a breach occurred between the YOUNGS and WOFFORDS. As they differed in ***lities the outbreak of the war of ** widened the breach. YOUNG was an uncompromising tory. And as ** offord was the leader of the whig movement in this community, so YOUNG ** the champion of the Royalist. Naturally they came to regard each other as personal enemies. YOUNG was still sore over his defeat in the love affair, for besides loving Martha sincerely as he did the blow to his pride was still greater. His proud spirit was not the kind to let a real or fancied wrong go unrevenged. He was constantly planning how he might in his estimation get even with WOFFORD. Nothing short of his enemy's life* would satisfy him. Of course the condition of affairs at that time was ample opportunity for the accomplishment of private or personal **nds. Nat YOUNG was not slow to avail himself of these opportunities. On one occasion he collected some half dozen of his companions and on a certain night determined to go and cab ** WOFFORD and kill him. On the appointed night he with his crowd, started to the WOFFORD house. YOUNG placed his ** on the outside with instructions not to let anyone leave the house alive. He himself went inside. When he entered the room he found, the husband, the man he was seeking busy around the fire, apparently warming some tea or something for his wife who was in bed sick. Without a moments hesitation, YOUNG drew his saber and rushed upon WOFFORD, who being completely surprised and unarmed was powerless to resist. The young wife was terrified for knowing the feeling that existed between her husband and the assailant, she expected him to be killed outright and with a terrified **am she su** out of the bed and *wing her arms around her husband's neck exclaimed, "Nat, spare *Jo". At this juncture there came a ** from the bed Martha had just ** YOUNG paused. This waff from the bed clothes revealed the true state of affairs to Nat. Lowering his saber he said, "Go back to bed, Martha" *** my life for his if another hair of his head be touched tonight. The young mother was supported back to the bed. The first wail of the future founder of Wofford College saved his father's life. Some five or six miles north of the WOFFORD home was the home of Wood ELDER, a whig who was a a member of Sumpter's band, then operating in the eastern part of the state. At this time ELDER was at home sick, with smallpox. Nat YOUNG was passionately fond of the fine horses and there was only one horse in the county that could surpass his. The horse belonged to Wood ELDER. Nat wanted it and set his heart on getting it. He had made several efforts to obtain possession of the horse but had failed each time. However he did not give it up, but determined to try it again. Now was the opportune time. ELDER was at home, in a helpless condition with smallpox. He did not know how soon ELDER would rejoin Sumpter and take the horse with him. Now or never it must be his. Mounting his own horse he rode one day to ELDER's home. His purpose was to go directly to the stable and take the coveted horse out and lead it away, but you can imagine his chagrin and disappointment when he got there to fine the animal gone. Almost beside himself with rage he went to the house pushing the door open went in. He found Wood ELDER in bed and unable to sit up. YOUNG deliberately walked to the bedside, took out his pistol and shot the sick man dead. Turning around he walked out, mounted his horse and rode away. The murdered man had three sons, Shadrack, Mesback and Abednego. The oldest Shadrack, was a boy of eighteen, the other two, Mesback and Abednego were aged fifteen and twelve respectively. At the time of the murder these boys were back from the house on the creek working some corn and they had the horse with them, hence YOUNG had failed to find it. When a they went to the house a few hours later they were horrified to find their father whom they had left alone a short while before, dead with a bullet through his head. Knowing that YOUNG was the leader of the tories in this section, also that Nat wanted the horse, it oc curred to the boys at once that the foul deed had been committed by none other than Nat YOUNG. There by the bedside of their dead father the boys took a solemn oath that they would neither eat nor sleep until their father's death had been avenged. The oldest boy at once mounted the horse and rode directly to the home of Joseph WOFFORD the whig leader. But when he got there he found no one at home but Martha. He related the incident of his father's murder, also he told her of the vow he and his brothers had made. After he had told his story, the wife went to the back door and gave a signal. In a few minutes, her husband, Maj. WOFFORD as he was then called, came up from toward the river. The boy repeated the story to the major and asked him to help avenge his father's death. This WOFFORD agreed to do. He collected several of his whig friends in the neighborhood and all mounted they started in pursuit of YOUNG. Several men had been seen crossing the river just above the WOFFORD home several hours earlier and going in the direction of the old CAVINS place. Believing them to have been Nat YOUNG and his crowd, the pursuing party set out directly for the CAVINS place. There they came up with the tory crowd, and sure enough YOUNG was with them. When the whigs came upon them they were cooking some forage they had taken in their recent raid. As soon as the whigs came in sight everything was dropped, and mounting their horses they fled before the pursuers came within shooting distance. As they fled Shadrack WOOD recognized the murderer of his father who was separated a little from the crowd. Putting spurs to his horse he started after YOUNG. Just then YOUNG's horse ran under a limb and knocked his hat off. Nat being recklessly brave stopped his horse, dismounted and got his hat. Just after he had gotten back into the saddle and started off, WOOD, who was now within shot, fired and Nat reeled and fell from the saddle. Wood thinking he had killed YOUNG galloped on to overtake the rest of the fleeing party. However, YOUNG was not killed but was severely wounded. He crawled several yards to a branch. About an hour later young Elder came back from the pursuit as the tory band had scattered in the woods. On his way back he came by the spot where YOUNG had fallen but was not there. Just at this juncture WOFFORD came up, Elder told him how he had shot YOUNG and thinking he was dead he rode on but YOUNG's body was not there. They noted blood on the ground. The bloody trail led in the direction of the branch. Following it up they found the wounded man down in the branch. As soon as they found him Elder took YOUNG's own sword and was about to finish him. YOUNG begged for time to pray. Edler refused to grant him one minute, but Maj. WOFFORD *** ELDER and told YOUNG he would see that he should have five minutes for prayer. At the end of the five minutes WOFFORD released Elder who at once ran the sword through YOUNG's body and his father's death was avenged. W. H. KELLY free post Lisa

"The Free Lance" Issue May 27, 1904 For False Pretenses John PERRIN, a negro who last December purchased a mule from W. R. DILLINGHAM and gave a mortgage on property not his own has been arrested by J. STAFFORD at Salisbury N. C. PERRIN was brought to the city [Spartanburg] yesterday and committed to jail by Magistrate PASSLEY on charge of obtaining goods under false pretenses. Court of Common Pleas In common pleas court this morning, the case of J. T. THOMAS et al vs. Spartanburg Railway Gas and Electric Company was ordered and is now before the jury. NOTICE: given for final settlement on the estate of Eliza R. BEASON by C. T. BEASON, May 25, 1904. ANNOUNCEMENTS: RUNNING FOR SHERRIFF: M. O. GENTRY T. M. PEARSON John M. NICHOLS W. R. DILLINGHAM Geo. B. DEAN RUNNING FOR CLERK OF COURT: Newton L. BENNETT John BOMAR T. R. TRIMMIER RUNNING FOR MASTER: Robert J. GANTT P.H. McGOWAN J. J. BURNETT RUNNING FOR AUDITOR: W. G. O'SHIELDS RUNNING FOR SUPT. OF EDUCATION: E. C. ELMORE RUNNING FOR CORONER: J. Felix TURNER W. T. WEST RUNNING FOR SUPERVISOR: W. M. BOMAR D. M. MILES RUNNING FOR TREASURER W. L. EPPS W. C. MANLY, wife and son Marvin MANLY, have moved from Belton to Spartanburg. John H. KIRBY has been enlisted in the signal service corps of the United States Army which is now stationed at Fort Mezer, Va. Richard MILLS, colored, was committed to jail yesterday for 60 days my Magistrate POOL of Campobello, for carrying concealed weapons and setting fire to wooded lands. Mr. O. [or Q] P. MORGAN of Spartanburg while visiting W. L. MORGAN of this city , went out driving with Mr. POAG, of Gaffney Livestock Company, Wednesday. The animal they were driving took fright, careened the buggy, and Mr. MORGAN was thrown out. He was considerable shaken up but escaped serious injury - Gaffney Ledger. John DOBBINS who was injured by the premature discharge of a blast, near Converse several days ago has nearly recovered and is able to be on the streets again. Poisoned by Jimson Weed Two little children of Judd CUNNINGHAM, who lives in the suburbs of the city [Spartanburg] near the home of John Cary EVANS, were poisoned Saturday afternoon by eating stramonium seed. The seed of the stramonium plant better known as the jimson weed is said to be very poisonous. The children who were three and two years old respectively ate a considerable quantity of them and their condition has reached an almost critical stage before the cause was ascertained and medical aid summoned. They are out of danger this morning. Origin of Marriage Custom "Casting a shoe after a newly married couple is one of the oldest customs that still clings on the fabric of this up to date life." Centuries ago, nay, thousands of years ago, it was one of the means employed by the people of antiquity to indicate ownership. When a piece of land was purchased or given to one, or a man acquired ownership of a house, a cow or tidbit unto himself, a wife, it was the established custom to cast a shoe over the land, the building, the animal or the woman, thus asserting to the world that he had acquired rights of ownership. The custom is mentioned in several places in the Bible. Psalms IX, 8. . . Few who do it probably know why they cast a shoe after newly married, but in this ancient custom is its origin found. So does a relic of barbarism linger in our midst. {This is not what it means than when married couples throw shoes now! Any spring weddings coming up? : } free post Lisa

My surnames that I am researching are: Jolly Allison Blanton McCraw Wood Wright Huskey Humphries Martin Deborah Mitchell (My genealogy web site link is below) <A HREF="http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Ranch/1477/index.html">http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Ranch/1477/index.html</A>

My surnames in the Spartanburg area and Union, York and Catawba Counties as the lines changed. Camsada Blackwood m. abt 1858 to Adam Haas Their son, John Haas b. 1863, m. Alice P.E. Turner b. abt 1863 Her parents, Leonidas T. Turner b.abt 1843, m. Amanda Hamrick His parents, Mathias Turner b. abt. 1800, m. abt. 1822 to Anna Rippy Thanks, Jean Jondreau

Do any Jones researchers have any information on Benjamen Franklin Jones born around 1830 who married Catherine Frances Blakely, b. 6.27.1833, daughter of John and Rebecca Blakely, all in Laurens county. I know about one son they had named Andrew Jackson Jones, born in 1861, who married Susannah Lenhardt Garrison in Greenville. Any info appreciated. mary frances

I research Cannons from Spartanburg Alberry Pearl Cannon Alberry Charles Cannon mary frances

Hi to all, Researching & searching for: Maternal: Spartanburg County - Allen, Lavender, Lee Cherokee County - Lavender Union County - Allen Rutherford County, NC (or there abouts) - Lavender, Horton Paternal: Greenville County - Foster (descendents of Lt John Foster, Col RSC Foster), Huff, Howard, Goldsmith & Batson (descendents of Hezekiak Batson and Lucy Clardy). Mickey A. Foster - LaBelle, FL --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, and more

Who were the parents of Henry Jenkins b. bet 1794-1804 who married Nancy Jones b. abt 1799 in Spartanburg County? They had one son I know of John S. Jenkins. Leigh C. Smith http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Acres/4730/index.html http://wallsoftime.tripod.com/index.htm

In and around Spartanburg, Union and Cherokee: KIRBY GARNER SPARKS LIPSCOMB Also interested in possible connections to: OWENSBY (some young Garner children lived with an Owensby family) PORTER (Kirbys buried at Old Porter Cemetery by Thicketty Creek) Thanks, Rex Kirby

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Caldwell/Waldrop Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/EgB.2ACI/2599 Message Board Post: I am seeking information on Bessie Caldwell Waldrop, born on June 22, 1879 and died March 26, 1943. She is buried in the Campobello First Baptist Church Cemetery. Is Caldwell her maiden name or last name from a previous marriage? Any information will be greatly appreciated.