Joy, Recently, I have come across early records in Richmond County, NC--just across the state line from Marlboro--which relate to the first Solomon Quick and possibly to his wife, Elizabeth's family. I never expected to get this kind of information on old Solomon and it is NOT definitive, but it may be some of the best material we will ever have to go on, given the modest economic circumstances and possible mixed race status of this early Quick family. In my experience they tend to be quite elusive. Solomon Quick was definitely in Richmond County before he shows up in South Carolina. Look at this... State Land Grant 4108 in Anson County to Solomon Quick Entry made 27 May 1778 Issued 3 Sep 1779 Surveyed 30 May 1778 This land was located on the drains (i.e. headwaters) of White's Creek. White's runs into S.C. from N.C. and empties into the Pee Dee in the upper section of Marlboro. It lies very close to Marks and Solomon's Creeks, where the Skippers lived. Chainbearers for this grant were Solomon Quick himself and Barnaby Skipper. This was about the time Solomon would have been beginning his married life. I have no idea of when or how Solomon disposed of this tract. December Term, 1785-- Solomon Quick was presented by the grand jury in Richmond County for allegedly taking a spotted (white and red) steer, the property of Thomas Dobbins. witnesses: Tabitha and Samuel Danby. During the year 1788, Ann Quick was one of several persons called upon to testify in Richmond County Court who failed to appear. 1790 Census Solomon Quick appears in CHeraw District, SC 1 male over 16 2 males under 16 (viz. born c. 1774--1790) 5 females Richmond County, NC Capias Writ issued against Solomon Quick et al as follows: "No Carolina Richmon County this day George Cole complains to me on oath that on or near november last he lost a certain boar stag which he has cause to believe and doth believe that John Scipper Wm Scipper & Solomon Quick in partenership stole the sd hog and also says that he also that he believes he can make apear by good witness that the sd John Scipper wm Scipper and Solomon Quick has undoufully taken hogs from other people these are therefore to command you to take the bodys of the above named sd John Scipper Wm Scipper Sollomon Quick and have them or any one of them before some justice for sd County to [next part obscured in my copy] to any Lawful officer D Henagan "Summon Needham Scipper Patiants rie, John Rye & John Wallis witneses for the State Rachel Wallace" Another page shows the following people bound for their appearance in court in connection with this matter: "Bound Willm Skipper in 50 pounds Barnaby Skipper in 25 pounds for Wm Skippers appearance Do John Skipper in 50 pounds Barnaby Skipper in 25 pounds for John Skippers appearance Do George Cole in 10 pounds Needham Skipper in 10 pounds for their given evidence vs Wm & Jno Skipper Jno Wallace in 10 pounds for Patience Rye given testimony vs. the 2 Skippers do in 10 pounds for Rachel Wallace given testimony vs. the 2 Skippers John Rye bound in 10 pounds for his given evidence vs the 2 Skippers The above Recognizances entered into before Hy W HARRINGTON on the 5th & 7 of Jany 1793" Only one affidavit survives regarding this case, but it is most revealing. "The Deposition of Rachel Wallace. Rachel Wallace being duly sworn declares that above 3 or 4 weeks ago she went with her brother Needham Skipper to her father Barnaby Skipper's corn crib & she saw the Head of a Hog that the said Head was marked with a hole in each Ear & that she thinks the Ears were fresh marked by the Slopes, Some after this Willm Skipper came who was mad & broke out in a passion & said Damn or curse the fool who put the head there & said he did not put it there, that she heard her brother Needham then say, that was the head which Solomon & John said they had eat, by which this Deponent thinks the said Needham intended to signify Solomon Quick and John Skipper. Sworn the 7th Jany 1793. Before Hy Wm Harrington" In the following months, as this trial came to be heard, many of the Skipper men, and John Wallis got into trouble for failing to appear. Needham Skipper assaulted a constable, Peter Cole, who was trying to attach his horse as a penalty for non-appearance in 1794. Barnaby Skipper himself was fined as surety for non-appearance in 1794. It may have been these events which led Barnabus and his family to move into South Carolina. In March and October of 1793, Barnabus sold his 1500 acres of land on Solomon's and Mark's Creek and in 1800, he along with JOhn and Silas Skipper appear in Marlboro County, SC. He never purchased land there and seems to have died before 1810. He may have divided the money he received from his land sale among his children informally during his lifetime, for there is no estate regarding him. Wonderfully vivid material, isn't it? Sounds like Solomon Quick was a sort of rascal. And that he and the Skipper boys were accustomed to carrying on a partnership in crime and it would seem, in fact, that they got away with a good many of their irregularities before getting caught this time. I happen to think, given this evidence, that Elizabeth Quick was probably another daughter of Barnaby Skipper, maybe his eldest. From other criminal actions regarding this family, I would say Barnaby had at least the following kids: John, William, Silas, Needham, probably a younger Barnabus, Rachel Wallace, wife of John, and Patience Rye, probably the wife of Robert Rye, who was accused of assaulting her in RIchmond County, 1801. Barnabus Skipper was certainly in Richmond (Anson) and old enough to have children as far back as the mid 1750's when he took out his first land grants. The name Needham reappears in the Quick family. In fact, take a look at the 1800 Census showing Solomon Quick, Sr.'s household. 1800 Census Solomon Quick 1 male <10 1 female <10 1 male 16/26 1 fe 10/16 1 male 26/44 2 fe 16/26 1 male over 45 2 fe 26/45 If I analyze this carefully and assume that all of the individuals are children of Solomon Quick other than the parents I could come up with a list like this. The oldest children seem to be Burrell, whom later records show to have been born in the 1770's and a daughter. But they seem to be the very oldest, so I would place their births, lets say c.1773 and c. 1775. Then we proceed from there: Burrell Quick b. c. 1773 daughter Quick b. c. 1775 daughter Quick b. c. 1777 daughter Quick b. c. 1779 Solomon Quick Jr. b. c. 1780/84 (since he says he is 40-50 in 1830) daughter Quick b. 1785/1789 Ruth Quick b. c. 1790, according to her tombstone son Quick b. c. 1791/99 If Elizabeth were 16 to 18 at the birth of Burrell, that would place her birth, c. 1755/57, just in keeping with the 1800 census which places her under 45 years of age, probably just under. Who could the last son have been, the one not named in her will? Given the Skipper connection, couldn't it have been Needham Quick, whom the 1850 census shows to have been born c. 1798. There was also a Needham Rye, perhaps a son of Patience Rye, living in Marlboro County at that time. I have recently learned that Barnabus Wallace of Marlboro was suposedly the son of John and RAchel Wallace (c. 1771--2/11/1827), but the person who wrote that seemed to be unaware of the true identity of this Rachel who very well may be the daughter of Barnabus Skipper who made the deposition above--hence the name Barnabus Wallace. And don't forget that Burrell Quick named a son Barnabus Quick, possibly for his grandfather. To me, this is all very exciting and provocative material and I would like any feedback you care to give. A few things about the Skipper family. Apparently, they were notorious for being of mixed blood. Paul Heinegg's book FREE AFRICAN AMERICANS IN NORTH CAROLINA, which I don't really trust in terms of identifying people as black who are probably in fact Indian, mentions these records. He says that a George Skiper was a "chief man of the Nottoway Indian Nation" who sold land in Southampton County, VA in February 1749. In February 1750, a George Skipper purchased 200 acres in Anson County, later Richmond on the NS of the Pee Dee. This George Skipper sold horses to BArnabus Skipper in 1765 and appears to have been the father of Barnabus along with Benjamin and perhaps George, Jr. and Samuel Skipper. This George appears as George Skipper, Sr. in the 1763 tax list of Anson. This would indicate to me that there was also a George Skipper, Jr.--one of the five taxables in the George Skipper, Sr. household. Separate titheables are labeled Barnaba Skipper (our man) and Benjamin Skipper, each with one titheable. The Skippers, especially Barnaby, seem to have been rich in land gained through grants. As I indicated, Barnaby collected about 1500 acres before and during the Revolution. But Bishop Gregg's HISTORY OF THE OLD CHERAWS reveals an unexpected fact concerning the Skippers. Describing the Revolutionary conflict between Tories and Patriots--the desperate and bloody partisan warfare which gripped the Carolina backcountry-- he says: "On the eastern side of the river (the Pee Dee,) near the dividing line between Richmond County, and what is now Marlborough District, lived two young men, named Skipper, of mixed blood, but peaceable and inoffensive. They had taken parol, however, and for no other offence, were seized by the Whigs on both sides of the line and hung. Such a course was well calculated to excite a feeling of bloody retaliation and thus the murderous conflict continued." These have to be representatives of the group of Skippers I was talking about--in fact, I think it may have been George, Jr. and Samuel who were hung. Samuel is known only through a single land grant (1778/79) and George is only suggested by the 1763 tax list. Neither appear in later records. From this and other statements in Gregg's book, it would appear that many of the "Redbones" or peoples of mixed blood of the Pee Dee basin including the Skippers and some of the Brigmans and others, took up the Loyalist cause during the Revolution. Perhaps they did so because they bore grudges against white patriot neighbors who looked down on them and discriminated against them. The Skipper boys took a parole and agreed not to continue their fighting, and Gregg suggested that they were killed more because of their race than because of their history as Tories. Their deaths became a cause celebre among other mixed race peoples and Tories generally and excited another bloody wave of recrimination. In this light, it makes sense what I have heard about the Quicks and other of the more "respected and powerful" of the mixed blood families of the Pee Dee. J.A.W. Thomas said that they were rewarded for loyalty during the Revolution with a special place of authority and leadership in the community. Perhaps this is true because they were the exception, rather than the rule during the Revolution in choosing the winning side. It is true of many Indian peoples, including the Cherokee, and the Iroquois Confederacy, that they felt they would be far better off if the King reduced his rebellious American subjects to obedience. Why shouldn't it be true of the mixed race people on the Pee Dee, in general? A couple more notices are in order before closing. I did look again at Solomon Quick's and Elizabeth Quick's estate packets in Bennettsville. I noticed that the 10 Oct 1807 administration bond for Elizabeth was secured by Burrell Quick and, guess who, John Scipper. Among the accounts due the estate was one from Barnabus Clark--don't know if that is significant. Among the accounts for Elizabeth's estate from 1832 to 1834 by Solomon Quick and right in the middle of recording the amounts given to the two Zilly Quicks (I assume Drusilla, one male and one female from the pronouns used), Aley Quick, Burrell Quick, and Solomon Quick is a record of $1 given to Daniel Odom "for the estate." Could that mean that Daniel Odom was one of the sons-in-law receiving a nominal amount in keeping with the will, which actually leaves each daughter 25 cents? Worth looking into. Whose children were the two Zilly Quicks and Aley Quick? They were grandchildren of Elizabeth, but they don't seem to fall into the family of either of the two boys we know--Burrell and Solomon, Jr. Larry W. Cates lcates@northstate.com