Thanks for your message. Like you, the first time I ran across this subject some years ago was in Sam Stoney's "Plantations of the Carolina Low Country". However, I can't recall ever seeing the info from "Plantations of the Low Country: South Carolina 1697- 1865," by William P. Baldwin, Jr. So I thank you indeed for this addition. Somewhere I had/have a letter - before email- from someone else who had an ancestor he said must have been one of the number. Certainly, there are others of SC descent who could trace their line back to one of those men, and perhaps there is some family "folk lore" in their family that mentions the possibility. There is also a SC record that "hints" that lists some men were of the band. I can not recall now where this was. One must realize that early in the time, there were men who had a warrant from the king of England to go after the Mogols. But the "politics" changed, and some of the men were smart enough to see the "handwriting on the wall", and get out of the business when and where they could. One clue I think that would support the possibility is when a man shows up suddenly from "nowhere' and pays alot of taxes. This was the case with George Chicken, so far as I can determine. The other item is that an early Chicken family were in Northumberland and Durham, close to the sea. So it would appear a strong possibility that they would be seamen. I am glad you contacted me again. Perhaps our exchanges will bring forth some others of a like mind. So thanks again. Ed T of PGH ----------- On Nov 11, 2005, at 11:58 PM, URQ5@aol.com wrote: > > In a message dated 11/11/2005 11:17:53 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > ertjr1@earthlink.net writes: > > I have not written you in some weeks, so it was not me who sought > info > about the Red Sea men. But sometime ago I think it was you with whom I > corresponded about them. You may recall that I suspect "my" George > Chicken was one of them. Is there any new info about them? I am always > interested in such info. > > > > Hi Ed-- Yes, you are the one I was looking for-- since we had not > talked > recently, I could not find your screen name in address book on new > computer. But > I hadn't forgotten that you were looking for information on the Red > Sea Men. > While doing some lookups tonight for others, I came across these > references: > > from "Plantations of the Carolina Low Country," by Samuel Gaillard > Stoney. > 1938, The Carolina Art Association > > p. 18- 19 > "Meantime, in 1692, one famous company of questionable seafarers > anchored > the ship "Loyal Jamaica" in Rebellion Roads, off Mount Pleasant, where > it lay, > giving Charles-Town some uneasiness. When peremptorily ordered away it > put out > to sea.[sic] but added to the unrest by tacking back and forth across > the > harbor mouth before it finally disappeared. Shortly thereafter the > authorities > had word that the ship was run ashore in Sewee Bay, had been stripped > of her > furniture, and that her people were scattered into the town and > country. Upon > examination of some of them it proved that hey had committed nothing > like > piracy, except in the Red Sea where the subjects of the Grand Mogul > were then > considered fair prey to Christians; that they had acted as privateers > in the > Caribbean, but that a debate begun upon their sailing north into the > latitude > of Charles-Town as to whether or not they should put in there and turn > planter had been prolonged until they settled it in the affirmative > by beaching > their ship at Sewee. Several of these Red Sea Men were well connected > in > England, young, and rich with the plunder of their paynims. Following > their > resolution they had taken, they became not only planters of Carolina > but the > ancestors, in some cases, of most eminent Low Country families." > > p. 57- 58 in the section on Fenwick Hall, 1730 > "Fenwick Hall marks the cresting of a wave of prosperity that came > over the > Low Country in the decade after the end of the Proprietorial > Government with > its last complications of Indian wars and piratical incursions in the > Low > Country proper. The house also signifies the arrival of considerable > wealth of an > interesting family. Robert Fenwick, one of the 'Red Sea Men' who upon > their > arrival in Carolina on the privateer 'Loyal Jamaica' were bonded to > behave > themselves during their sojourn, came of a good, sometimes prominent, > county > fmaily in England. > > from "Plantations of the Low Country: South Carolina 1697- 1865," by > William > P. Baldwin, Jr., Legacy Publications, 1985. > > p. 33 from the section on Fenwick Hall > "Descended from one of the 'Red Sea Privateers,' John Fenwick > prospered and > left the home to his son..." > > Since this was the first time I'd read "Red Sea Privateers," I Googled > those > words & came up with many hits. You may want to check that out. It > sure is > an interesting topic. I will let you know if I find anything else. > URQ > > > ==== SCROOTS Mailing List ==== > SCRoots Query Board > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=board&r=rw&p=topics.organizations > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >