This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Reily/So. Carolina/Mississippi/Louisiana Classification: Bible Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/CdB.2ACE/216 Message Board Post: 1907 Reily Letter Author: Barbara Branum Date: 23 Nov 2005 5:22 PM GMT Surnames: Reily/So. Carolina/Mississippi/Louisiana Classification: Bible Post Reply | Mark Unread Report Abuse Print Message This is a letter that I, Orville Wainwright (Wain) Reily, III, got from my Great Aunt, Mary Gustavus Reily (Mrs. E. B. Moore) of Winnsboro, Louisiana. She got this letter from her Uncle William Boatner Reily, Sr. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Centreville, Miss. Nov. 27, 1907 Mr. Wm. B. Reily Dear Sir and Cousin: In answer to your letter to my mother, who is 75 years' old and not able to answer. I send you the records we have in the old Bible. Grandpa Samuel Reily had 12 children, as you can see. I have heard my father, Wesley Reily, say that Great Grandpa Robert Reily came from Ireland to South Carolina and finally settled here where I live now. I live in the house that he built in 1820 and I am using water from the old brick well that he made. Grandpa Samuel Reily had 12 children and only 6 left descendents. They were Isaac, Martha, John Y., Cantey, Morgan and Wesley. John Y. I believe is your grandfather and Wesley was my father. He had 13 children and four are living now. I am the only Reily living here in Wilkerson County. I would be glad to have you come up and see me. I live two miles from Centreville, Miss. and will meet you at Centreville any time you will come. Yours truly, J. D. Reily -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Births Samuel Reily, son of Robert and Ann Reily, was born on Black River, Clarendon Co., S.C., Sumter Dictrict, on March 04,, 1767. Martha McDonald, daughter of Arch. and Mary McDonald, was born on Santee River, S.C., Williamsburg District, on Sept. 04, 1770. Children of Samuel and Martha Reily: 01- Isaac McDonald, was born on Sunday morning on Black River, Sumter Dist., S.C. Jan 02, 1791. 02- Margaret Anne, was born Sunday night, same place, Jan. 06, 1793. 03- Martha Mary, was born on Santee River, S.C., Feb. 02, 1795. 04- Samuel Warburton, was born at same place, March 02, 1797. 05- John Young, was born Sunday morning, same place, Oct. 19, 1798. 06- Joseph Cantey, was born same place, Jan. 27, 1801. 07- William Robert, was born same place, Aug. 11, 1804. 08- Mary Ann, was born same place, Sept. 20, 1806. 09- Sarah Susana, was born in S.C., Aug. 10, 1808. 10- Margan Sabb, was born in Mississippi Territory, Wilkinson County, Sunday morning (Cornite Creek), Jan. 12, 1812. 11- Wesley, was born same place, Aug. 04, 1814. 12- Eliza Nelson, was born same place, March 05, 1816. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marriages: Samuel Reily and Martha McDonald were married Dec. 24, 1789. Martha Mary Reily and James B. Richardson were married March 19, 1812. Isaac M. Reily and Mary Bowman were married on Dec. 16. 1819. Isaac M. Reily and Amy I. Higginbotham were married on April 05, 1825. John Y. Reily and Mrs. Mary Higginbotham, nee Mary McNeely, were married July 30, 1825. Margaret Ann Reily married Ira Bowman. Sarah Susan Reily married John DeLoach. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Deaths: Samuel Reily died May 12, 1822. MarthaMcDonald Reily died Dec. 04, 1850. Samuel Warburton Reily died Dec. 20, 1816. William Robert Reily died aug. 26, 1827. Joseph Cantey Reily died Dec. 07, 1852. Wesley Reily died Sept. 01, 1873. Eliza Neilson Reily died Aug. 18, 1889. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Note by Wain Reily (11-23-2005) E-mail: owr3@hotmail.com In J. D. Reily's letter he says that Robert came to Miss. Terr. This is a mistake. Robert died in So. Car. and Samuel is the on that came to Miss. and built the house. Some of the property and the old home site are still in the family. The old grave yard is on this property with head stones. Some of his dates are not correct. I think that he wrote them down wrong. We know this from some other documents, other Bibles, and letters. I have a very good lead on where the Bible is that he used and I plan to go see it in the very near future. I will post other letters as I get the time. Wain Reily

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Reily/So. Carolina/Mississippi/Louisiana Classification: Bible Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/ReB.2ACI/104 Message Board Post: 1907 Reily Letter Author: Barbara Branum Date: 23 Nov 2005 5:22 PM GMT Surnames: Reily/So. Carolina/Mississippi/Louisiana Classification: Bible Post Reply | Mark Unread Report Abuse Print Message This is a letter that I, Orville Wainwright (Wain) Reily, III, got from my Great Aunt, Mary Gustavus Reily (Mrs. E. B. Moore) of Winnsboro, Louisiana. She got this letter from her Uncle William Boatner Reily, Sr. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Centreville, Miss. Nov. 27, 1907 Mr. Wm. B. Reily Dear Sir and Cousin: In answer to your letter to my mother, who is 75 years' old and not able to answer. I send you the records we have in the old Bible. Grandpa Samuel Reily had 12 children, as you can see. I have heard my father, Wesley Reily, say that Great Grandpa Robert Reily came from Ireland to South Carolina and finally settled here where I live now. I live in the house that he built in 1820 and I am using water from the old brick well that he made. Grandpa Samuel Reily had 12 children and only 6 left descendents. They were Isaac, Martha, John Y., Cantey, Morgan and Wesley. John Y. I believe is your grandfather and Wesley was my father. He had 13 children and four are living now. I am the only Reily living here in Wilkerson County. I would be glad to have you come up and see me. I live two miles from Centreville, Miss. and will meet you at Centreville any time you will come. Yours truly, J. D. Reily -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Births Samuel Reily, son of Robert and Ann Reily, was born on Black River, Clarendon Co., S.C., Sumter Dictrict, on March 04,, 1767. Martha McDonald, daughter of Arch. and Mary McDonald, was born on Santee River, S.C., Williamsburg District, on Sept. 04, 1770. Children of Samuel and Martha Reily: 01- Isaac McDonald, was born on Sunday morning on Black River, Sumter Dist., S.C. Jan 02, 1791. 02- Margaret Anne, was born Sunday night, same place, Jan. 06, 1793. 03- Martha Mary, was born on Santee River, S.C., Feb. 02, 1795. 04- Samuel Warburton, was born at same place, March 02, 1797. 05- John Young, was born Sunday morning, same place, Oct. 19, 1798. 06- Joseph Cantey, was born same place, Jan. 27, 1801. 07- William Robert, was born same place, Aug. 11, 1804. 08- Mary Ann, was born same place, Sept. 20, 1806. 09- Sarah Susana, was born in S.C., Aug. 10, 1808. 10- Margan Sabb, was born in Mississippi Territory, Wilkinson County, Sunday morning (Cornite Creek), Jan. 12, 1812. 11- Wesley, was born same place, Aug. 04, 1814. 12- Eliza Nelson, was born same place, March 05, 1816. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marriages: Samuel Reily and Martha McDonald were married Dec. 24, 1789. Martha Mary Reily and James B. Richardson were married March 19, 1812. Isaac M. Reily and Mary Bowman were married on Dec. 16. 1819. Isaac M. Reily and Amy I. Higginbotham were married on April 05, 1825. John Y. Reily and Mrs. Mary Higginbotham, nee Mary McNeely, were married July 30, 1825. Margaret Ann Reily married Ira Bowman. Sarah Susan Reily married John DeLoach. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Deaths: Samuel Reily died May 12, 1822. MarthaMcDonald Reily died Dec. 04, 1850. Samuel Warburton Reily died Dec. 20, 1816. William Robert Reily died aug. 26, 1827. Joseph Cantey Reily died Dec. 07, 1852. Wesley Reily died Sept. 01, 1873. Eliza Neilson Reily died Aug. 18, 1889. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Note by Wain Reily (11-23-2005) E-mail: owr3@hotmail.com In J. D. Reily's letter he says that Robert came to Miss. Terr. This is a mistake. Robert died in So. Car. and Samuel is the on that came to Miss. and built the house. Some of the property and the old home site are still in the family. The old grave yard is on this property with head stones. Some of his dates are not correct. I think that he wrote them down wrong. We know this from some other documents, other Bibles, and letters. I have a very good lead on where the Bible is that he used and I plan to go see it in the very near future. I will post other letters as I get the time. Wain Reily

Thank you, Jean, for sharing. The school children will especially enjoy these stories (so did I). Kit F. ----- Original Message ----- From: "JEAN PRATHER" <DEJAYS@webtv.net> To: <SCROOTS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2005 7:28 AM Subject: [SC] index.html > > --WebTV-Mail-24385-41 > Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit > > Hi This is very interesting > > HAVE A GREAT DAY !!! Jean > > > --WebTV-Mail-24385-41 > X-URL-Title: index.html > Content-Disposition: Inline > Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit > > http://sciway3.net/2001/sc-pirates/ > > --WebTV-Mail-24385-41-- > > > ==== SCROOTS Mailing List ==== > SC Archives: http://www.state.sc.us/scdah/ > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx >

Jean, Although I have not researched the issue, it occurs to me that intentionally disseminating fake family trees for advertisement purposes and trapping the unwary may be in violation of the Deceptive Trade Practices Act of the Texas Business and Commerce Code. And I would think other states have similar laws. Perhaps an opinion from the Texas Attorney General as well as other states would be in order if this subject has not already been dealt with. I for one have difficulty distinguishing this fake family tree scheme from other types of fraudulent business practices. If for some reason this practice is just outside our current laws, obviously a simple amendment to our current laws ought to take care of the problem. I have enough trouble already tracing all my South Caroline roots, Kirbys, Sparks, Garners, Lipscombs and all their kindred families without having to sort out fake data that may eventually find its way into various family trees. As we celebrate Thanksgiving, a special thanks to all the folks from South Carolina who have helped me with my research. Rex Kirby -----Original Message----- From: JEAN PRATHER [mailto:DEJAYS@webtv.net] Sent: Monday, November 21, 2005 5:30 AM To: SCROOTS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [SC] Fwd: [HAMMOND] Fake family trees online ... I saw this on another mailing list and decided to send along along......... http://deseretnews.com/dn/view/1,1249,635160683,00.html Fake family trees online may trip up genealogists By Lee Davidson Deseret Morning News Genealogists beware. A software company is marketing a new program to Internet advertisers that could quickly generate Web sites full of extensive, but fake, family trees. Critics say the approach appears to be part of a new money-making scheme to lure people who search for family names on Google, Yahoo or other search engines to Web sites that use bogus data to help ensure they appear high on "hit lists." They then make money if visitors click on advertisers' links. They worry that novices might download false information that is designed to look real, and then corrupt others' family trees if they share that bad data online or through family history databases such as those offered by The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints or the commercial Utah-based Ancestry.com However, Don Harrold, co-creator of a program called "Fake Family," which he sells for $75, says data it produces has "absolutely zero chance" of matching any real person or family. He says he has offered the program to fewer than 30 self-described Internet advertisers, so its use is not widespread, and he has not made money on it. Why make it then? "Why not? I enjoy trying to find ways to create computer simulations of organic life," Harrold told the Deseret Morning News. But online chat groups of both genealogists and Internet advertisers are buzzing about what the new program could do to genealogical research, and why Harrold is marketing it, even if, as he says, to a small group. Dan Eastman, author of Eastman's Online Genealogy Newsletter, wrote this past week that he believes Harrold "wants to flood the Internet with bogus genealogy material, all for the purpose of making easy money." Online information that Harrold wrote says his product can "create thousands of pages of unique . . . content with almost no effort. Neither humans nor search engines will be able to tell whether the content is 'real' or 'generated.' " How could that make money? Josh Anderson, an Internet advertiser from Idaho, who also is a genealogist concerned about the product, explains Web hosts can program their sites to display "sponsored links." Advertisers pay search engines to have these appear on screen whenever certain key words such as "genealogy" are part of a search. When such links are clicked by a visitor, the Web site host and search engine company split revenue from an advertiser. (Of course, Web sites can also offer other forms of advertising.) "It can be a very profitable source of income. Some people make millions of dollars a year doing it," Anderson said. "The whole purpose (of Fake Family-style sites) is to trick the search engine, so they get a top listing for some search words" to attract more visitors and potentially more revenue-producing mouse clicks. Search engine companies say they hunt for and remove from listings any sites that are bogus or that scrape content from other sites merely to act as a vehicle to carry advertiser links. But Fake Family boasts in written information that it can fool search engines. It does not merely produce lists of random names, but links them generation-to-generation with bogus birth, marriage and death dates and places. It adds that its randomly generated names "are era-specific," meaning you will get more names such as Orville and Bertha in the 1880s than the 1980s. Infant mortality, marriage rates and migration data is also encoded, and more. It's the rich family "experience" that Fake Family provides that is significant and makes the output stunning in its ability to look real to humans. Internet advertisers helped the Deseret Morning News identify a few genealogy sites that appeared to contain only bogus information, along with plenty of advertiser links. Harrold, however, said he only knows of one generated by Fake Family (even though he said in written information that he has "monetized" several family history sites). "This is scary to me," said Mindy Koch, an Internet advertiser from North Carolina and an avid genealogist. "There is a great chance that a novice could think this is real. If they download it, and then later upload it into repositories like (the LDS Church's) Ancestral File, those databases would include lots of people who never existed." Also, she added that it potentially could make search engines more difficult to use for genealogy if bogus sites slow them or account for all the "top hits." Harrold says such threats are imagined and not real. He said the chances of randomly selected first and last names, coupled with randomly selected places and dates, being shown as married to the same persons as people who actually lived "are not just slim, they are nonexistent." He said if someone still mistook such information as real and downloaded it, "that's their fault." He adds, "If you want real family information, why are you not looking at Census records? If you're not paying for it, and I didn't ask you to take it, and the name and date don't match your family tree, why are you taking this information? Any onus is on the people who take this information." Some in genealogy chat groups, however, complained that a name that looks even roughly plausible could be mistaken as real by a novice, or cause even a genealogy expert to spend a lot of time and money to eliminate the possibility it is the person for whom they are seeking. "Boo hoo," Harrold told the Morning News in response to such complaints. He said "the real story" is how Google and other search engines do not verify content they seek and guide others to for profit. He said databases by the LDS Church and Ancestry.com also contain some incorrect information submitted by patrons. His obviously false data creates less threat to genealogy research than they do, he said. Harrold suggested in chat groups that he might sue people who referred to his work as a "scam." He also warned the Morning News to be careful what it said about him. In turn, makers of the Legacy Family Tree software threatened to sue Harrold if he did not remove from his Web site instructions about how to download free software from them that could assist the Fake Family program. Meanwhile, Mary Kay Evans, spokeswoman for Ancestry.com, a Utah company that, as part of its service, offers a large database of names, said, "It is so unfortunate that there are predators on the Web who target people interested in their genealogy. Genealogy is such a popular hobby that predators are moving to take advantage of that." Evans, as well as many genealogists and even Harrold himself, urges genealogists to verify carefully all sources of information in genealogy, especially any obtained online from people they do not know. "That is a primary role of Ancestry.com, to help people see source records," Evans said. Anderson, who operates a small family Web site, also encourages genealogists to actually talk to people operating such sites and ask for all source information. E-mail: lee@desnews.com

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I am of the Hammond or Hammonds family of Anderson County. I have been looking for William Hammonds who married Morning Martha Kelly. I have not be able to found William Hammonds parents or where he came from. In the !800's He lived in Anderson county. I would love any and all pictures of the home. Thank you very much. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Jearleen2@charter.com Jearleen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Herbert Hendricks" <Herb_316@msn.com> To: <SCROOTS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, November 21, 2005 2:26 PM Subject: [SC] Hammond > Someone was inquiring about the Hammonds in SC. > > I was looking at some of my Smith relatives in Anderson District SC in the > 1860 census. > > Having been raised in this area and knowing the make up of the people in > that area of Anderson Co, SC, mainly the Lebanon Community, I found the > following showing apparently who owned what was formerly known as the > "Hammond's place" located just west of Nimrod T. Smith's home, formerly > residence of John Perry Major. My recollection is from talk about the > Hammond's place, when I was growing up, is that it was built in the > 1850s. It has now burned down. I do have some old pictures of the home. If > anyone interested let me know. > > William L Hammond age 43 b SC > Martha Hammond age 30 b SC > Lewellen age 9 male b SC > Thomas age 8 male b SC > The census of the Hammond Family was continued on the next page but I did > not make a copy. > > Herb Hendricks > Retired NASA Physicist > Hendricks(on) DNA Project Group Administrator > Secretary Hendricks Family Association > Herb_316@MSN.com<mailto:Herb_316@MSN.com> > 1210 Long Meadow DR > Lynchburg, VA 24502 > 434 832 7246 > Major/Smith/Hendricks > http://www.familytreedna.com/public/hendrickson/<http://www.familytreednacom/public/hendrickson/> > > > ==== SCROOTS Mailing List ==== > SC Archives: http://www.state.sc.us/scdah/ > > ============================== > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx >

Someone was inquiring about the Hammonds in SC. I was looking at some of my Smith relatives in Anderson District SC in the 1860 census. Having been raised in this area and knowing the make up of the people in that area of Anderson Co, SC, mainly the Lebanon Community, I found the following showing apparently who owned what was formerly known as the "Hammond's place" located just west of Nimrod T. Smith's home, formerly residence of John Perry Major. My recollection is from talk about the Hammond's place, when I was growing up, is that it was built in the 1850s. It has now burned down. I do have some old pictures of the home. If anyone interested let me know. William L Hammond age 43 b SC Martha Hammond age 30 b SC Lewellen age 9 male b SC Thomas age 8 male b SC The census of the Hammond Family was continued on the next page but I did not make a copy. Herb Hendricks Retired NASA Physicist Hendricks(on) DNA Project Group Administrator Secretary Hendricks Family Association Herb_316@MSN.com<mailto:Herb_316@MSN.com> 1210 Long Meadow DR Lynchburg, VA 24502 434 832 7246 Major/Smith/Hendricks http://www.familytreedna.com/public/hendrickson/<http://www.familytreednacom/public/hendrickson/>

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A software company is marketing a new program to Internet advertisers that could quickly generate Web sites full of extensive, but fake, family trees. Critics say the approach appears to be part of a new money-making scheme to lure people who search for family names on Google, Yahoo or other search engines to Web sites that use bogus data to help ensure they appear high on "hit lists." They then make money if visitors click on advertisers' links. They worry that novices might download false information that is designed to look real, and then corrupt others' family trees if they share that bad data online or through family history databases such as those offered by The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints or the commercial Utah-based Ancestry.com However, Don Harrold, co-creator of a program called "Fake Family," which he sells for $75, says data it produces has "absolutely zero chance" of matching any real person or family. He says he has offered the program to fewer than 30 self-described Internet advertisers, so its use is not widespread, and he has not made money on it. Why make it then? "Why not? I enjoy trying to find ways to create computer simulations of organic life," Harrold told the Deseret Morning News. But online chat groups of both genealogists and Internet advertisers are buzzing about what the new program could do to genealogical research, and why Harrold is marketing it, even if, as he says, to a small group. Dan Eastman, author of Eastman's Online Genealogy Newsletter, wrote this past week that he believes Harrold "wants to flood the Internet with bogus genealogy material, all for the purpose of making easy money." Online information that Harrold wrote says his product can "create thousands of pages of unique . . . content with almost no effort. Neither humans nor search engines will be able to tell whether the content is 'real' or 'generated.' " How could that make money? Josh Anderson, an Internet advertiser from Idaho, who also is a genealogist concerned about the product, explains Web hosts can program their sites to display "sponsored links." Advertisers pay search engines to have these appear on screen whenever certain key words such as "genealogy" are part of a search. When such links are clicked by a visitor, the Web site host and search engine company split revenue from an advertiser. (Of course, Web sites can also offer other forms of advertising.) "It can be a very profitable source of income. Some people make millions of dollars a year doing it," Anderson said. "The whole purpose (of Fake Family-style sites) is to trick the search engine, so they get a top listing for some search words" to attract more visitors and potentially more revenue-producing mouse clicks. Search engine companies say they hunt for and remove from listings any sites that are bogus or that scrape content from other sites merely to act as a vehicle to carry advertiser links. But Fake Family boasts in written information that it can fool search engines. It does not merely produce lists of random names, but links them generation-to-generation with bogus birth, marriage and death dates and places. It adds that its randomly generated names "are era-specific," meaning you will get more names such as Orville and Bertha in the 1880s than the 1980s. Infant mortality, marriage rates and migration data is also encoded, and more. It's the rich family "experience" that Fake Family provides that is significant and makes the output stunning in its ability to look real to humans. Internet advertisers helped the Deseret Morning News identify a few genealogy sites that appeared to contain only bogus information, along with plenty of advertiser links. Harrold, however, said he only knows of one generated by Fake Family (even though he said in written information that he has "monetized" several family history sites). "This is scary to me," said Mindy Koch, an Internet advertiser from North Carolina and an avid genealogist. "There is a great chance that a novice could think this is real. If they download it, and then later upload it into repositories like (the LDS Church's) Ancestral File, those databases would include lots of people who never existed." Also, she added that it potentially could make search engines more difficult to use for genealogy if bogus sites slow them or account for all the "top hits." Harrold says such threats are imagined and not real. He said the chances of randomly selected first and last names, coupled with randomly selected places and dates, being shown as married to the same persons as people who actually lived "are not just slim, they are nonexistent." He said if someone still mistook such information as real and downloaded it, "that's their fault." He adds, "If you want real family information, why are you not looking at Census records? If you're not paying for it, and I didn't ask you to take it, and the name and date don't match your family tree, why are you taking this information? Any onus is on the people who take this information." Some in genealogy chat groups, however, complained that a name that looks even roughly plausible could be mistaken as real by a novice, or cause even a genealogy expert to spend a lot of time and money to eliminate the possibility it is the person for whom they are seeking. "Boo hoo," Harrold told the Morning News in response to such complaints. He said "the real story" is how Google and other search engines do not verify content they seek and guide others to for profit. He said databases by the LDS Church and Ancestry.com also contain some incorrect information submitted by patrons. His obviously false data creates less threat to genealogy research than they do, he said. Harrold suggested in chat groups that he might sue people who referred to his work as a "scam." He also warned the Morning News to be careful what it said about him. In turn, makers of the Legacy Family Tree software threatened to sue Harrold if he did not remove from his Web site instructions about how to download free software from them that could assist the Fake Family program. Meanwhile, Mary Kay Evans, spokeswoman for Ancestry.com, a Utah company that, as part of its service, offers a large database of names, said, "It is so unfortunate that there are predators on the Web who target people interested in their genealogy. Genealogy is such a popular hobby that predators are moving to take advantage of that." Evans, as well as many genealogists and even Harrold himself, urges genealogists to verify carefully all sources of information in genealogy, especially any obtained online from people they do not know. "That is a primary role of Ancestry.com, to help people see source records," Evans said. Anderson, who operates a small family Web site, also encourages genealogists to actually talk to people operating such sites and ask for all source information. E-mail: lee@desnews.com ==== HAMMOND Mailing List ==== Address all HAMMOND posts to:Hammond-L@rootsweb.com ============================== Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. New content added every business day. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx --WebTV-Mail-12594-2880--

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I think many of us are not anxious to post our documents to the Rootsweb County pages, and other pages owned by Rootsweb since Ancestry now owns Rootsweb. I have no problem sharing with others; and I have always been appreciative of Rootsweb. However, when Rootsweb was bought out by Ancestry, other pages that had always been free are now a part of Ancestry and you must pay to view them. Dot Baker

I'll gladly share whatever I have, including copies of documents, when sent to a private address. That is my pleasure and the only way I know to repay those who have gone on before me and have shared so generously with me. To post to the internet, I think not. I have in my possession all too many so called documents that have been altered. Posting would be gravey for Ancestry and others of the same ilk. They simply surf the net looking for items to post to their own site and without giving credit for the contribution. Unless I then visited their site, asked for that particular records and that it would be shared with me, I would have no way of knowing that my document(s) hadn't been lifted to another site. Recently I stumbled upon an article, only about half completed but correct up to the given point. I won't say who did it as it was a reputable entity who did not post for profit. [It was soon withdrawn when I contacted the poster for additional information and had my request returned to me unanswered]. The entire article was based on queries, etc. I had posted over the years...each one of them having revealed a bit of information that I thought might encourage someone to respond. I know the information was correct because I had personally done the research; and it would be my humble opinion that the poster had verified my facts before publishing them. Should anyone surfing the 'net for information about surnames I have posted all over the 'net would respond to me privately, I would be more than happy to share. I do not care to do my sharing through message boards, etc. Using the internet is a life saver for me. Doesn't require me to leave the house, even for the inadequate library we have, no travel with motel and food bill, to say nothing about gasoline and at its current prices. But, I do find my sources to be much more reliable when I purchased them from state archives. The USMail is a very good source. A bit more expensive than getting it either free or from a subscription; but then I have the satisfaction of knowing that this source is going to be as close to the primary record as I will be able to have. I am a subscriber to Ancestry.com and other than for a few special items like the registration cards for those who were required to register when WW I was raging, and a few other things of the like genre, I could have had more accurate records for the cost of the subscription by simply ordering what I needed from an Archive. Books are another excellent source, particularly if they are abstracted from the actual records. I use Ancestry only as a guide for further research; if I do not know the info is accurate either from personal knowledge and/or personal research, anything I get from them must be verified before it becomes acceptable. I like to follow the siblings of an ancestor, adding information for them that might prove useful to me in the future but which is very doubtful. Like a couple or three generations when available. After that point, I am not quite as particular as I am about my lineal ancestors and their immediate families. Whenever I can, I like to include neighbors, friends, families, and others who have had some interaction with my own lineage. Sometimes it's a brick wall to find a reason for having them included. And I do document these persons as well as I can, recording in my notes the items I have found about them. One of them just might prove to be the needle in the haystack I'm searching. Oh, and it's very discouraging to go to a county website, see something of interest, click on it and find myself right dab in the mist of Ancestry whom I've been attempting to avoid!!!!!!!

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/CdB.2ACE/213.1 Message Board Post: hi I think we might be kin through this James Watson.I have James Watson born in Sumter or Richland Sc abt 1735.He had the following children David and Alexander.They both first moved to Warren county Tn and then to Shelby county Alabama.I would love to talk to you

Hi everyone, I am not a frequent contributor but enjoy reading about SC genealogy. I am sort of new to family history and have received quite an education by you experienced people. Some people complained about the ones, unhappy with ancestry's profit motive and lack of correction. I enjoy all the chatter. I have been active in a Vietnam Vet group for the past 5 years after hating everything military for the 35 previous years. As a 21 year old draftee in 1965, I hated everything Army for the next 2 years but now an old man at 61, wish I had remembered more about my both horrible but yet noble and funny wartime experiences. I have made contact with over 150 guys in my unit and find it especially rewarding to be with and share our memories. We try and focus on the positive things and push aside the many negatives. Without internet resources, I would not have been able to find phone numbers and addresses. I have never paid Ancestry a red cent and never even used the free 14 day trail. maybe someday I will, but there has to be a big improvement and an all inclusive price of around $50 a year to get me to subscribe. But I also want to thank the genealogy family for helping me with my family history in the past and maybe, just maybe Phyllis Horry will share some Horry info to see if I can tie in my Smith line. In the past I have had help from genealogy buffs in locating some of my combat brothers and especially with the families of our Vietnam KIA brothers who never received the proper closure. Thank you all for your kind help in the past and I hope in the future. GARY HARTT A/2/22(12/65-9/67) FTA all the way!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 503-632-6955 Visit our website www.vietnamtripledeuce.org ----- Original Message ----- From: "TreeMother" <Tonin1@airmail.net> To: <SCROOTS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2005 11:07 AM Subject: [SC] Ancestry vs. genweb donated records > Hi All: > I just want to make one or two suggestions regarding records. We do not > have > to depend upon Ancestry. > When you have a document you can post it to the county genweb page. I > think > sometimes the document can even be scanned. If we build up the state and > county genweb pages perhaps Ancestry and other for profit outfits will > stop > thinking they are the sole proprietors of genealogical records. For those > of > you who are handy, creating your own webpage with documents that can be > linked to Google will open doors for many researchers and lost family > members. > > If you do create a webpage and place documents on them, please do not > leave > out non-family names. Your document may be the chink in another's > brickwall > and they will be forever grateful to you. > Tree Mother > > "She is insane, of course. The family history has become a mania for her." > Hercule Poirot > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Edgar Taylor" <ertjr1@earthlink.net> > To: <SCROOTS-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2005 10:27 AM > Subject: Dye family - Re: [SC] Getting Ancestry.Com to change the info!! > > >> Hi -I noticed your reference to Dye. They were very early in western >> PA, but my interest is their connection to the Rathbones. Do you see a >> connection? Please email me at my address instead of the SC forum. I >> will be unsubscribing to this for a few days today. >> Ed To of PGH >> ---------- >> On Nov 13, 2005, at 12:19 AM, Kathy wrote: >> >> > How do you feel about rootsweb, and why do I keep gettimg offers for a >> > 14 day trial. So this means if they have incorrect info., on my >> > family, I'd never know it with out paying for there service. >> > I hope rootsweb, stays the same old rootsweb, that I founf back in >> > 2000, met several cousins in person and every one is so helpful to me >> > with out a price tag, but I was off line for several years due to >> > chemo and lost my wonderful Gateway computer, piece of Crap broke down >> > with in two years, any way lost all my old address and can't get the >> > people who use to be on rootsweb to respond, which makes me wonder if >> > they have gone to another site. I thought Ancentry was the only other >> > site out there and came across another site, started with a H, with a >> > 7 day trial. I need to get updated on whats going on and where some of >> > my distance cousins have gone to??? Sincerely Kathy in Oregon >> > Surnames:Runyon, Rippon, Hamilton, Thornton, Amick, Redmond, Bloom, >> > Dye, Vogan, Waddell, >> > Dye, And many more.... >> > >> > maltt@juno.com wrote: >> > >> >> Oh, on occasions Ancestry.com from the correct, as I submitted it, to >> >> the >> >> incorrect. My cousin, his third wife, was completely omitted. In her >> >> stead was the wife of another man, the woman having been dead for many >> >> years and laid to rest in GA. Her true husband had died ca 1854 at >> >> Black >> >> Hawk, Carroll County, MS. >> >> >> >> Of course, I haven't accomplished too much but I stay on >> >> Ancestry.com's >> >> case about the many errors they are publishing for the truth. If this >> >> isn't changed, our descendants are going to have a harder time than >> >> we in >> >> tracing their trees due to the privacy laws that many states are >> >> implementing. Alabama is one that requires that a man or woman be >> >> deceased for 125 years, beginning with their birth year, before birth >> >> and >> >> death certificates may be issued to anyone outside of the immediate >> >> family or to an attorney who is acting on their behalf. >> >> >> >> Because of this, I think it's time for many people to complain, even >> >> go >> >> so far as to boycott their site until some corrections are made. It's >> >> my >> >> personal opinion that they should require documentation for a person >> >> before posting his/her data. >> >> >> >> Speaking of old, out of date e-mail addresses, it has reached the >> >> point >> >> on a number of families that I can identify the submitter without >> >> seeing >> >> his or her name. And, if you should send a message to the one who >> >> posted >> >> the incorrect data, they never receive it. Ancentry.com simply says >> >> that >> >> their transmission isn't working at that time. I have also requested >> >> that >> >> a copy of each message I have attempted to send to be sent to me. To >> >> date, I haven't received a single one. >> >> >> >> Other sites are not much better. Check at the bottom of the page and >> >> you >> >> will discover that the "different" site is being supported by >> >> Ancestry.com. This gives them the right to go into the other sites to >> >> collect whatever data the other might have in order to add it to their >> >> own. I haven't really found an independent site that isn't in >> >> co-operation with Ancestry.com. >> >> >> >> With them my name is MUD and I am frequently denied access to data >> >> that I >> >> have previously seen and know it is there; however, their report to >> >> me is >> >> that they have nothing for that family. >> >> >> >> Try some of my tactics to see what your results will be. >> >> >> >> mbm >> >> >> >> >> >> ==== SCROOTS Mailing List ==== >> >> SCRoots Forum >> >> http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~scroots/ >> >> >> >> ============================== >> >> Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the >> >> last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: >> >> http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> > ==== SCROOTS Mailing List ==== >> > SCRoots Query Board >> > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=board&r=rw&p=topics.organizations >> > >> > ============================== >> > View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find >> > marriage announcements and more. Learn more: >> > http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx >> > >> >> >> ==== SCROOTS Mailing List ==== >> The SC Room: http://www.ccpl.org/scr.html >> >> ============================== >> Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the >> areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. >> Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx >> >> > > > > ==== SCROOTS Mailing List ==== > Subscription instructions are at > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/usa/SC/misc.html#SCROOTS > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx >

Re: Scroots of 11/16/2005 Message from LINDA Linda, Though not totally disabled it is difficult for me to make so many trips both healthwise, timewise and financially. So I spend much less than trips would cost me. Though I carry much more than you do with Ancestry, the cost is so much less than making trips. IM WITH YOU, Linda. Ancestry is fantastic for receiving IMAGES of original censuses. They have to pay for most of what they have online. All of it is not from others' research, which oft times also has errors, as many say. Transcriptions are often incorrect as are the census takers information. Martha Bigelowa@bellsouth.net ----- Original Message ----- From: <Sina28@aol.com> To: <SCROOTS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 11:51 AM Subject: Re: [SC] Getting Ancestry.Com to change the info!! >I am a disabled person who because of my disabilities can no longer do > conventional research. Fortunately, I got most of my mail lines finished > before I > became disabled. > > But, I can still use my computer and I find that Ancestry.com is HEAVEN > SENT! Are there errors, sure. But the correct information far outweighs > the false. > > Most of their information is referenced and if you think the info in > incorrect, check the reference for yourself. Usually an email address is > present and > you can contact a contributor to check the info you find. > > Mostly, I stick to the Census to fill in my bare spots. But, I have > learned > to check the Census for myself, because occasionally the transcription is > incorrect. > > I have also used Ancestry's British/Ireland databases. Recently, using > info > from Ancestry, I obtained a copy of a will from the 1500's. I got the > reference from Ancestry and then wrote to Derbyshire England and they > supplied the > records. > > As far as price goes, I paid 99.00 a year for the Census and have gotten > 9000.00 worth of info from them. Plus I get to help other people. > > So, I'm happy. > > Linda > > > ______________________________

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/CdB.2ACE/215.1.1 Message Board Post: I apologize for the problem with the webpage. What has happened is that after posting the message several people went to the site and overloaded it causing it to go temporarily offline. The downside of having a Free-Yahoo website is that it only has a certain ammount of space on it. I'm hoping to update the site so that it can allow more people to view it. I'm also looking into the possibility of maybe creating a new webpage on a different server. Once again I sincerly apologize for this problem and hope to have it fixed soon. If you have any questions please let me know and I will try and answer them to the best of my ability. Kenneth H. Robison II.

Hi All: I just want to make one or two suggestions regarding records. We do not have to depend upon Ancestry. When you have a document you can post it to the county genweb page. I think sometimes the document can even be scanned. If we build up the state and county genweb pages perhaps Ancestry and other for profit outfits will stop thinking they are the sole proprietors of genealogical records. For those of you who are handy, creating your own webpage with documents that can be linked to Google will open doors for many researchers and lost family members. If you do create a webpage and place documents on them, please do not leave out non-family names. Your document may be the chink in another's brickwall and they will be forever grateful to you. Tree Mother "She is insane, of course. The family history has become a mania for her." Hercule Poirot ----- Original Message ----- From: "Edgar Taylor" <ertjr1@earthlink.net> To: <SCROOTS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2005 10:27 AM Subject: Dye family - Re: [SC] Getting Ancestry.Com to change the info!! > Hi -I noticed your reference to Dye. They were very early in western > PA, but my interest is their connection to the Rathbones. Do you see a > connection? Please email me at my address instead of the SC forum. I > will be unsubscribing to this for a few days today. > Ed To of PGH > ---------- > On Nov 13, 2005, at 12:19 AM, Kathy wrote: > > > How do you feel about rootsweb, and why do I keep gettimg offers for a > > 14 day trial. So this means if they have incorrect info., on my > > family, I'd never know it with out paying for there service. > > I hope rootsweb, stays the same old rootsweb, that I founf back in > > 2000, met several cousins in person and every one is so helpful to me > > with out a price tag, but I was off line for several years due to > > chemo and lost my wonderful Gateway computer, piece of Crap broke down > > with in two years, any way lost all my old address and can't get the > > people who use to be on rootsweb to respond, which makes me wonder if > > they have gone to another site. I thought Ancentry was the only other > > site out there and came across another site, started with a H, with a > > 7 day trial. I need to get updated on whats going on and where some of > > my distance cousins have gone to??? Sincerely Kathy in Oregon > > Surnames:Runyon, Rippon, Hamilton, Thornton, Amick, Redmond, Bloom, > > Dye, Vogan, Waddell, > > Dye, And many more.... > > > > maltt@juno.com wrote: > > > >> Oh, on occasions Ancestry.com from the correct, as I submitted it, to > >> the > >> incorrect. My cousin, his third wife, was completely omitted. In her > >> stead was the wife of another man, the woman having been dead for many > >> years and laid to rest in GA. Her true husband had died ca 1854 at > >> Black > >> Hawk, Carroll County, MS. > >> > >> Of course, I haven't accomplished too much but I stay on > >> Ancestry.com's > >> case about the many errors they are publishing for the truth. If this > >> isn't changed, our descendants are going to have a harder time than > >> we in > >> tracing their trees due to the privacy laws that many states are > >> implementing. Alabama is one that requires that a man or woman be > >> deceased for 125 years, beginning with their birth year, before birth > >> and > >> death certificates may be issued to anyone outside of the immediate > >> family or to an attorney who is acting on their behalf. > >> > >> Because of this, I think it's time for many people to complain, even > >> go > >> so far as to boycott their site until some corrections are made. It's > >> my > >> personal opinion that they should require documentation for a person > >> before posting his/her data. > >> > >> Speaking of old, out of date e-mail addresses, it has reached the > >> point > >> on a number of families that I can identify the submitter without > >> seeing > >> his or her name. And, if you should send a message to the one who > >> posted > >> the incorrect data, they never receive it. Ancentry.com simply says > >> that > >> their transmission isn't working at that time. I have also requested > >> that > >> a copy of each message I have attempted to send to be sent to me. To > >> date, I haven't received a single one. > >> > >> Other sites are not much better. Check at the bottom of the page and > >> you > >> will discover that the "different" site is being supported by > >> Ancestry.com. This gives them the right to go into the other sites to > >> collect whatever data the other might have in order to add it to their > >> own. I haven't really found an independent site that isn't in > >> co-operation with Ancestry.com. > >> > >> With them my name is MUD and I am frequently denied access to data > >> that I > >> have previously seen and know it is there; however, their report to > >> me is > >> that they have nothing for that family. > >> > >> Try some of my tactics to see what your results will be. > >> > >> mbm > >> > >> > >> ==== SCROOTS Mailing List ==== > >> SCRoots Forum > >> http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~scroots/ > >> > >> ============================== > >> Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > >> last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > >> http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > ==== SCROOTS Mailing List ==== > > SCRoots Query Board > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=board&r=rw&p=topics.organizations > > > > ============================== > > View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find > > marriage announcements and more. Learn more: > > http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx > > > > > ==== SCROOTS Mailing List ==== > The SC Room: http://www.ccpl.org/scr.html > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/CdB.2ACE/215.1 Message Board Post: Have tried accessing your website for 2 days but always get a message: " Sorry, this site is temporarily unavailable! The web site you are trying to access has exceeded its allocated data transfer. Visit our help area for more information. Access to this site will be restored within an hour. Please try again later. http:// " I have tried 8 -10 yesterday & several times today. Was the address posted correctly? Thanks!

Hi -I noticed your reference to Dye. They were very early in western PA, but my interest is their connection to the Rathbones. Do you see a connection? Please email me at my address instead of the SC forum. I will be unsubscribing to this for a few days today. Ed To of PGH ---------- On Nov 13, 2005, at 12:19 AM, Kathy wrote: > How do you feel about rootsweb, and why do I keep gettimg offers for a > 14 day trial. So this means if they have incorrect info., on my > family, I'd never know it with out paying for there service. > I hope rootsweb, stays the same old rootsweb, that I founf back in > 2000, met several cousins in person and every one is so helpful to me > with out a price tag, but I was off line for several years due to > chemo and lost my wonderful Gateway computer, piece of Crap broke down > with in two years, any way lost all my old address and can't get the > people who use to be on rootsweb to respond, which makes me wonder if > they have gone to another site. I thought Ancentry was the only other > site out there and came across another site, started with a H, with a > 7 day trial. I need to get updated on whats going on and where some of > my distance cousins have gone to??? Sincerely Kathy in Oregon > Surnames:Runyon, Rippon, Hamilton, Thornton, Amick, Redmond, Bloom, > Dye, Vogan, Waddell, > Dye, And many more.... > > maltt@juno.com wrote: > >> Oh, on occasions Ancestry.com from the correct, as I submitted it, to >> the >> incorrect. My cousin, his third wife, was completely omitted. In her >> stead was the wife of another man, the woman having been dead for many >> years and laid to rest in GA. Her true husband had died ca 1854 at >> Black >> Hawk, Carroll County, MS. >> >> Of course, I haven't accomplished too much but I stay on >> Ancestry.com's >> case about the many errors they are publishing for the truth. If this >> isn't changed, our descendants are going to have a harder time than >> we in >> tracing their trees due to the privacy laws that many states are >> implementing. Alabama is one that requires that a man or woman be >> deceased for 125 years, beginning with their birth year, before birth >> and >> death certificates may be issued to anyone outside of the immediate >> family or to an attorney who is acting on their behalf. >> >> Because of this, I think it's time for many people to complain, even >> go >> so far as to boycott their site until some corrections are made. It's >> my >> personal opinion that they should require documentation for a person >> before posting his/her data. >> >> Speaking of old, out of date e-mail addresses, it has reached the >> point >> on a number of families that I can identify the submitter without >> seeing >> his or her name. And, if you should send a message to the one who >> posted >> the incorrect data, they never receive it. Ancentry.com simply says >> that >> their transmission isn't working at that time. I have also requested >> that >> a copy of each message I have attempted to send to be sent to me. To >> date, I haven't received a single one. >> >> Other sites are not much better. Check at the bottom of the page and >> you >> will discover that the "different" site is being supported by >> Ancestry.com. This gives them the right to go into the other sites to >> collect whatever data the other might have in order to add it to their >> own. I haven't really found an independent site that isn't in >> co-operation with Ancestry.com. >> >> With them my name is MUD and I am frequently denied access to data >> that I >> have previously seen and know it is there; however, their report to >> me is >> that they have nothing for that family. >> >> Try some of my tactics to see what your results will be. >> >> mbm >> >> >> ==== SCROOTS Mailing List ==== >> SCRoots Forum >> http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~scroots/ >> >> ============================== >> Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the >> last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: >> http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >> >> >> > > > ==== SCROOTS Mailing List ==== > SCRoots Query Board > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=board&r=rw&p=topics.organizations > > ============================== > View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find > marriage announcements and more. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx >

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