Looking for Craig Family connections to: 1) P118 Wm Craig, Protestant Irish Immigrant to SC by Jane Revill SC Council Journal 86, Part 2 p 222-223 8 Nov 1772 Wm Craig 300 acres = 5 members in family 2) Will; Date: 1793 C.; Description: CRAGE, ELANOR OR CRAIG, ELANOR OF LAURENS COUNTY, WILL TYPESCRIPT (1 FRAME) (MSS WILL: ESTATE RECORD BOOK A-1, PAGE 79); Names Indexed: CRAIG, ELANOR//CRAGE, ELANOR/CRAIG, WILLIAM/CRAGE, WILLIAM/CRAIG, JOHN///CRAGE, JOHN/CRAIG, JAMES/CRAGE, JAMES/LOGGAN, THOMAS/LOGON, THOMAS/HANNAH, ROBERT/; Locations: LAURENS COUNTY//WAGGON ROAD/ 3. Will: Date: 1843 C.; Description: CRAIG, JOHN OF LAURENS DISTRICT, WILL TYPESCRIPT (MSS WILL: BOOK A, PAGE 31; ESTATE PACKET: BDL 112, PKG 4) (2 FRAMES). ; Names Indexed: CRAIG, JOHN/CRAIG, WILLIAM/CRAIG, JANE E./CRAIG, JOHN B./BIRD, W. D./INLEW, ELIZABETH/VANCE, N. C./FOSTER/ANDERSON/BARE, DREW/CRAIG, THOMAS/CRAIG, ROBERT/RUTHERFORD, THOMAS B./NANCE, N. C./BYRD, W. D./MURELL, SAMUEL H./HARLAND, JANE/HARLAND, JOSEPH/CRAIG, GEORGE/LEWIS (SLAVE)/LUCINDA (SLAVE)/NAT (SLAVE)/GEINES (SLAVE)/JERRY (SLAVE)/ANNA (SLAVE)/JAMES (SLAVE)/CLARK (SLAVE)/CRAIG, WILLIAM PERRY/ISAAC (SLAVE)/CAROLINE (SLAVE)/LITTLE, THOMAS/JONES, LEWIS (SLAVE)/JONES, ELIZA (SLAVE)/CRAIG, SAMUEL J./SCINTHA (SLAVE); Locations: LAURENS DISTRICT/ 4. Will: Date: 1789; Description: CRAIG, JAMES OF CAMDEN DISTRICT, WILL TYPESCRIPT (ESTATE PACKET: CASE 54, FILE 2390) (2 FRAMES). ; Names Indexed: CRAIG, JAMES/CRAIG, HANNAH/SALLY (SLAVE)/CRAIG, JOHN/CRAIG, ROBERT/CRAIG, MARTHA/MCCOY, JAMES/BEN (SLAVE)/CRAIG, JEAN/CRAIG, WILLIAM/NEEL, THOMAS/CRAIG, SAMUEL/HOWE, DAVID/NEEL, ANDREW; Locations: CAMDEN DISTRICT/YORK COUNTY; Type: WILL (TYPESCRIPT)/ 5. Will: Date: 1825 C.; Description: CRAIG, WILLIAM OF LAURENS DISTRICT, WILL TYPESCRIPT (MSS WILL: ESTATE RECORD BOOK E, PAGE 480; ESTATE PACKET: BDL 13, PKG 2) (2 FRAMES). ; Names Indexed: CRAIG, WILLIAM//CRITTA (SLAVE)/MOLLY (SLAVE)/HARLEN, WILLIAM C./CINTHIA (SLAVE)/HARLEN, JANE E./SARAH (SLAVE)/ALEXANDER, WILLIAM ALEXANDERE/TEMPLETON, JOHN/BURKE, LEVI/DICK (SLAVE)/CRAIG, ROBERT/CRAIG, JOHN/CRAIG, THOMAS/JAKE (SLAVE)//LEWIS (SLAVE)/ISAAC (SLAVE)/SANDY (SLAVE)/MARY (SLAVE)/CRAIG, JAMES/PETER (SLAVE)/MONROE (SLAVE)/MARGET (SLAVE)/MIMA (SLAVE)/CRAIG, ELEANOR/SCOTT (SLAVE)/LIZA (SLAVE)/FRANK (SLAVE)/JEAN (SLAVE)/ABRAM (SLAVE)/PHILLIS (SLAVE); Locations: LAURENS DISTRICT//; Type: WILL (TYPESCRIPT)// 6. Will of Susanna Craig dated 1836 in Laurens Co., SC apparent wife of William Craig d 1825. There is also a connections to the Briggs family from NC to SC which is also connected about 1814-1819 via marriage. Samuel Craig m to Ruth Briggs. Samuel Craig and Ruth Briggs Craig migrated to Anderson District/Anderson County, SC between 1836 and 1850. Any Craig Family connectivity would be appreciated. God Bless. Herb Hendricks Retired NASA Physicist Hendricks DNA Project Group Administrator Secretary Hendricks Family Association Herb_316@MSN.com<mailto:Herb_316@MSN.com> 1210 Long Meadow DR Lynchburg, VA 24502 434 832 7246 Major/Smith/Hendricks http://www.ftdna.com/public/hendricks/<http://www.ftdna.com/public/hendricks/>

Hi Bill, I just checked Amazon and "From Babylon to Eden" is not available until 28 Feb. Where did you find your copy??? kinta Thanks, Ray, for the invitation. Regret I can't attend. I am reading "From Babylon..." now. Sure does disavow a lot of SC Huguenot myths and recent modern, scholarly information and interpretations. Bill DuBose Saturday morning, March 11, there will be a Huguenot session at the SC Archives in Columbia. The president of the Huguenot Society of SC will be there. Topics will include, how to join the society and some hints to help your Huguenot research. I will have a copy of the new book "From Babylon to Eden" about Huguenot migration to SC. There is a fee that will cover lunch. Send me an email off the list if you would like some details. Ray Timmons ray@atc.edu ==== SCROOTS Mailing List ==== Subscription instructions are at http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/usa/SC/misc.html#SCROOTS ============================== Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx ==== SCROOTS Mailing List ==== SC Archives: http://www.state.sc.us/scdah/ ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx

Thanks, Ray, for the invitation. Regret I can't attend. I am reading "From Babylon..." now. Sure does disavow a lot of SC Huguenot myths and recent modern, scholarly information and interpretations. Bill DuBose ----- Original Message ----- From: Timmons, Ray Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 12:22 PM To: SCROOTS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [SC] Huguenot session at the SC Archives Saturday morning, March 11, there will be a Huguenot session at the SC Archives in Columbia. The president of the Huguenot Society of SC will be there. Topics will include, how to join the society and some hints to help your Huguenot research. I will have a copy of the new book "From Babylon to Eden" about Huguenot migration to SC. There is a fee that will cover lunch. Send me an email off the list if you would like some details. Ray Timmons ray@atc.edu ==== SCROOTS Mailing List ==== Subscription instructions are at http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/usa/SC/misc.html#SCROOTS ============================== Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx

Ray, Sounds really interesting, but I have other commitments for March 11. Carol

Saturday morning, March 11, there will be a Huguenot session at the SC Archives in Columbia. The president of the Huguenot Society of SC will be there. Topics will include, how to join the society and some hints to help your Huguenot research. I will have a copy of the new book "From Babylon to Eden" about Huguenot migration to SC. There is a fee that will cover lunch. Send me an email off the list if you would like some details. Ray Timmons ray@atc.edu

Hi, Any help with some of these names? They were all suppose to be in Charleston, South Carolina in the 1830's. Thanks, Darlene John E. Webber & Isabella 1825 South Carolina George L. Webber 1859 in South Carolina Sarah H. Webber & Benjamine Donald 1821 1818 South Carolina Sarah E. Donald 1840} All kids born in South John L McDonald 1843} Carolina Mary E. McDonald 1845} Frances A. McDonald 1847} Benjamin H. McDonald 1854} Eliza Webber & S. J. Dickson South Carolina

National Geographic "The Greatest Journey Ever Told, The Trail of Our DNA" March 2006. For those who participate in the Genographic Project per providing their DNA sample and getting their 12 marker DNA results they should read this article. When reading the article pay particular attention to the paragraph on page 73 which reads; "The Tribe's DNA is unlikely to yield any simple truths, at least in the short term. Native American groups like the Seaconke-Wampanoag have European and African as well as Native American ancestry. And as Theodore Schurr explains to those donating blood, "the initial results won't reveal a person's full heritage." They could point back to Metacomet's people-or to ancestors from another continent. "A fuller picture will emerge only after the project analyzes each person's full set of chromosomes and compares them with the Genographic Project's growing lode of DNA from other Groups." As some of us has been pointing out also, that the 12 marker results provided to the Genographic Project's participants, "the initial results won't reveal a person's full heritage" is just part of what it takes and requires to track a person's full heritage, "A fuller picture will emerge only after the project analyzes each person's full set of chromosomes and compares them with the Genographic Project's growing lode of DNA from other groups." Interesting that the article makes this type of quote but again never really quantifies in terms of DNA testing what a person's "full set of chromosomes" really is that is required in comparing to others. If you really understand DNA testing you know that it takes more than 12 markers to determine the "fuller picture." Another little bit of information for those participating in the role of DNA testing and what people tell others and don't tell others that is happening with their DNA. God Bless. Herb Hendricks Retired NASA Physicist Hendricks DNA Project Group Administrator Secretary Hendricks Family Association Herb_316@MSN.com<mailto:Herb_316@MSN.com> 1210 Long Meadow DR Lynchburg, VA 24502 434 832 7246 Major/Smith/Hendricks http://www.ftdna.com/public/hendricks/<http://www.ftdna.com/public/hendricks/>

Family Tree DNA 37 marker test cost $221, Relative Genetics 43 marker test cost $199 only if you are in a family surname group. Your choice, same results. God Bless. Herb Hendricks Retired NASA Physicist Hendricks DNA Project Group Administrator Secretary Hendricks Family Association Herb_316@MSN.com<mailto:Herb_316@MSN.com> 1210 Long Meadow DR Lynchburg, VA 24502 434 832 7246 Major/Smith/Hendricks http://www.ftdna.com/public/hendricks/<http://www.ftdna.com/public/hendricks/> ----- Original Message ----- From: Ngchesnutt@aol.com<mailto:Ngchesnutt@aol.com> To: SCROOTS-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:SCROOTS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, February 24, 2006 11:46 AM Subject: [SC] DNA Do you recommend the Family Tree test for 37 markers? ==== SCROOTS Mailing List ==== The SC Room: http://www.ccpl.org/scr.html<http://www.ccpl.org/scr.html> ============================== Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx<http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx>

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Raleigh, NC - Speakers Forum - March 25, 2006 The North Carolina Genealogical Society is pleased to announce its First Annual Speakers Forum to be held Saturday, March 25 at the Wake County Commons Building in Raleigh from 8:30am to 3:00pm. The opening workshop session is on DNA. Following that will be seven speakers with nine lectures (three lectures running at the same time - you choose the one you want to attend). Included are discussions on land, census, probate and Revolutionary War records. For those whose ancestors migrated into Georgia, one lecture is an overview of the records of the Georgia Archives and preparing to do research there. Bring your own lunch. Drinks will be provided. Walk-ins are welcome; however workshop packets may not be available. Details, directions and registration information for this workshop are available by e-mail from info@ncgenealogy.org or at http://www.ncgenealogy.org/ by clicking on Calendar & Events on the left side of the page, then on the March NCGS Speakers Forum button.

Do you recommend the Family Tree test for 37 markers?

I was looking for my names and came across this cemetery with several Bobo's there. Making sure whoever was asking about this surname to look if you hadn't already had it. SPARTANBURG COUNTY, SOUTH CAROLINA - CEMETERIES - Bethlehem Baptist Church Cemetery, Roebuck, SC God Bless, Darlene

DNA 'could predict your surname' Forensic scientists could use DNA retrieved from a crime scene to predict the surname of the suspect, a study suggests. http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/em/fr/-/2/hi/science/nature/4736984.stm

Greetings from SC. Seek information on James DIAL of Richland Co., SC, will dated 1843. URQ

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/5gC.2ACE/330.332.343.603 Message Board Post: Wendy, I'm not related to this family. However, I searched Ancestry, and found the following information about the Abneys. 1850 Census The Dist., Edgefield Co., SC Holley Abney 50 F W $300 b. SC Amanda Abney 23 F W b. SC Matthew Abney 14 M W b. SC James Abney 19 M W b. SC Enumerator's Note: Dwarf Bigah? Abney 5 M W b. SC Elvira Abney 3 F W b. SC Edney Abney 33 F Mul b. SC Elizabeth Abney 10 F Mul b. SC 1850 Census The Dist., Edgefield Co., SC JohN Wooton 34 M W Farmer $600 b. SC Martha Wooton 34 F W b. SC Massoma? Wooton 8 F W b. SC Millege Wooton 6 M W b. SC Martha Wooton 4 F W b. SC Ebney Abney 30 F Mul b. SC Elizabeth Abney 10 F Mul b. SC 1860 Census Edgefield Dist, Edgefield Co, SC Jerrot Abney 42 M Mul Mechanic $1740 $317 b. SC Holley Abney 60 F Mul $600 b. SC Edney Abney 40 F Mul Domestic b. SC Mathew Abney 22 M Mul b. SC Lydia Abney 18 F Mul b. SC Elvira Abney 14 F Mul b. SC Lewis Abney 16 M Mul Cripple b. SC Pickens Abney 7 M Mul b. SC Jerrot Abney 1 M Mul b. SC Benjamin Kemp 23 M Mul Shoe Maker b. SC Betsey Kemp 18 F Mul b. SC Emma B. Kemp 2 F Mul b. SC Savannah Kemp 2mon F Mul b. SC 1870 Census Hamburg, Edgefield Co., SC C. C. Turner 22 M B Blacksmith b. SC Jane Turner 25 F B Keeping Home b. SC Sarah Turner 12 F B Not Occupied b. SC Berry Turner 7 F B At Home b. SC Jarret Abney 12 M B Not Occupied b. SC 1870 Census Saluda, Edgefield Co., SC Colmeb? Abney 15 M B farm Laborer b. SC Jerry Abney 55 M B Farm Laborer b. SC Jane Abney 40 F B Farm Laborer b. SC Ann Abney 11 F B Farm Laborer b. SC Hampton Abney 9 M B At Home b. SC Sumter Abney 6 M B At Home b. SC Mat Abney 2 M B At Home b. SC 1870 Census Saluda, Edgefield Co., SC Green Scurry 70 M B Farm Laborer b. VA Wade Abney 25 M B Farm Laborer b. SC next-door Amanda Abney 22 F Mul Farm Laborer b. SC Octavia Abney 5 F Mul At Home b.SC 1880 Census Source Information: Census Place Augusta, Richmond, Georgia Family History Library Film 1254163 NA Film Number T9-0163 Page Number 339D Elisabeth ABNEY Self W Female B 43 SC Londress SC SC Keller ABNEY Dau S Female MU 19 SC Domestic Service SC SC Jarrett ABNEY Son S Male B 13 SC Domestic Service SC SC Julia ABNEY GDau S Female MU 10M GA GA SC SC Dept of Archives & History Series Number: S165015 Year: 1856 Item: 00014 Date: 1856/11/20 Description: CULBREATH, LEWIS, PETITION TO BE REFUNDED A CAPITATION TAX PAID FOR ELIZABETH ABNEY, A FREE BLACK, WHO WAS UNDER AGE. (4 PAGES) Names Indexed: ABNEY, ELIZABETH (FREE BLACKS)/ABNEY, HOLLY/CULBREATH, LEWIS/ Locations: / Type: PETITION/ Topics: TAXES, FREE BLACKS/

Go to the below sites by either clicking on the site or copying and pasting them in your browser. Take a little study on DNA mapping to get back to Africa or wherever you dead end in time. http://ycc.biosci.arizona.edu/nomenclature_system/fig1.html<http://ycc.biosci.arizona.edu/nomenclature_system/fig1.html> http://www.familytreedna.com/haplotree.html<http://www.familytreedna.com/haplotree.html> http://worldfamilies.net/y-haplogroups.htm<http://worldfamilies.net/y-haplogroups.htm> http://members.cox.net/johnrcarpenter/1.htm<http://members.cox.net/johnrcarpenter/1.htm> Just maybe this will show people how mapping your particular DNA back in time is much more complicated than just a 12 marker DNA test. A lot of 12 Marker DNA tests also do not give you the first step in your mapping process It often takes an SNP test to do this. About 20% of our Hendricks DNA participants had no typical route to a Haplotree marker without an SNP testing. Then a deep clades set of test to map further back in time. Then you may find you have a uniques set of results that has not been mapped. The results a brick wall until enough of a data base is collected and compared to continue mapping backward in the past. Herb Hendricks Retired NASA Physicist Hendricks DNA Project Group Administrator Secretary Hendricks Family Association Herb_316@MSN.com<mailto:Herb_316@MSN.com> 1210 Long Meadow DR Lynchburg, VA 24502 434 832 7246 Major/Smith/Hendricks http://www.ftdna.com/public/hendricks/<http://www.ftdna.com/public/hendricks/>

Would like to be contacted by the list administrator. URQ

To All, Please read the following quote: "Last year, in April (2005) the National Geographic Society threw its weight behind a distinctly 21st-century mapping effort: The Genographic Project. under the leadership of geneticist, Spencer Wells, its scientist will collect and analyze DNA of 100,000 people. By mapping the global distribution of genetic markers, they hope to develop a detailed picture of humanity's migration out of Africa." "Wells was a graduate student of population geneticist Luigi Luca Cavalli-Sforza, who first linked the disciplines of genetics and geography, pioneering what he naturally termed "genetic geography." In a landmark letter published in Genomics in 1991, Cavalli-Sforza called for a "worldwide survey of human genomic diversity" fearing that just as science was coming into its own, the populations most in need of study were heading toward extinction. The idea transformed the Human Genomic Diversity Project (HDGP), a forerunner of Wells' effort, and the term "genetic geography" morphed into the quotable hybrid "genography." But the HDGP fizzled, and the term genography lay dormant until it was revived last year. Now, with thousand of participants to date--and its share of controversies-the Genographic Project stand to go down in history and bring the word genography with it." This is what was being sold by DNA companies (who have made huge bucks off of this project) to numerous Genographic Project DNA managers the DNA companies recruited throughout the USA. However in order to get people to participate the propaganda was changed to "we'll connect you to your family with a $99 - 12 marker DNA test." Many SC Web sites were posted to this message to recruit people to participate in the program. No one sought to tell people that 12 marker DNA tests could connect you to your surname and to many others also who were not your kin. The DNA companies started fostering these people off on Family DNA Project to take the rein and explain that 12 marker DNA tests didn't solve your family connectivity problem. The local Genographic Project managers continued to recruit people until it became ridiculous, get your 12 marker test and connect to your family was the message. That is when people, like me, started posting what was the truth. It takes collective people in the same family with matching family histories and matching DNA markers up to 37+ to match up your family lineage and show it is true. To many little white lies still out there. In addition this Genographic Project DNA information is available publicly who know who else will use it 1) the FBI for their criminal data base, 2) the US Government, etc. So if you really want to use DNA to solve your family history problems, just join a your Surname DNA Project and work with the people there to get a sufficient data base of your family group and you will have a better than even chance to solve those brick walls. If you want some more of our brick wall stories contact me off line. God Bless. Herb Hendricks Retired NASA Physicist Hendricks DNA Project Group Administrator Secretary Hendricks Family Association Herb_316@MSN.com<mailto:Herb_316@MSN.com> 1210 Long Meadow DR Lynchburg, VA 24502 434 832 7246 Major/Smith/Hendricks http://www.ftdna.com/public/hendricks/<http://www.ftdna.com/public/hendricks/>

Dear Carole, You have asked an excellent question. I visited the Laurens DNA site which posts some DNA results for people from Laurens. This is not the way to find about your connections to your family. Why? Nothing ever stands alone. DNA testing and family history needs something to compare to. DNA testing is only valid when you have a surname connections project of similar surnames with hopefully matching DNA profiles to compare to. We have 22 different Hendricks groups and this illustrates what I am saying. Generally surname Projects are slightly less expensive to join and get DNA testing. Generally surnames have diverse family connections. Joining a group will generally get you some one who knows something more than a posting about your surname. In our case we have about 80 years of documented land deeds, grants, wills, church records plus numerous lineages. We also provide free 3 family history CDs which are useful for searching out your family records. So what to do? As a start you can go to your browser like Google or Yahoo and plug in DNA testing. This will pull up a lot of stuff. However there are a number of DNA testing companies and this is what to look for. I will give you an example, Family Tree DNA is found at (Not a necessary advertizement for FTDNA) http://www.familytreedna.com/surname.asp<http://www.familytreedna.com/surname.asp>. This web site gives you a place where a large number of surnames are posted. Scroll down to the alphabet listing of projects click on the first letter of your surname. This will bring up a list of surnames of the beginning letter of your surname. Scroll until you find your surname and click on it. This takes you to a page that begins to give information about your surname. Depending upon the knowledge and dedication of the Group Administrator you will begin to connect to your family. There is also a link to the person doing the coordination of the project. We and numerous other DNA Projects have learned the hard way overtime to do 37+ marker DNA testing. Why? Visiting such sites as Charles Kerchner (http://www.kerchner.com/dna-info.htm there<http://www.kerchner.com/dna-info.htm%20there> is excellent documentation that shows you why. To separate out people 12 and 25 marker testing often gives false positive matches which lead people to make errors in connections to family members. 37+ marker testing also helps separate out different members in family groups. So if you are really serious about DNA the above is a beginning. However you need to search out male members of your family for Y-DNA testing as the genes are passed for a given surname down form father to son to grandson forever. Getting other members of your surnames, once your know your family's DNA profile, will establish a DNA base profile in which to compare others to your particular surname group. We have a number of good case example. For instance we had three particular groups of Hendricks do DNA testing. 1) back to Daniel Hendrick of MA 1617., 2) A family back to KY 1792 and 3) a family back into Eastern NC 1700. When they saw that all three were beginning to match, one group only did a beginning 12 marker test, then a 25 and 37 test they all began to match. So from 3 different groups at the beginning (one group only 12 markers which wasa mistake at the beginning) they matched into a single Hendrick/s family Group pointing toward Daniel Hendrick of MA b 1617 m 1642 Dorothy Pike, d of Robert Pike Mayflower passenger. Talk about thrilled. Now all this different happen overnight. The Hendricks Family Association had a data base on the Daniel Hendrick group and also what some know as the Jabesh Hendricks or Francis Hendrickson family of Eastern NC. All this helped put the family together for DNA does not stand alone it stands with family history records. The whole story is more complicated but it shows you what can happen in a family surname project where you have good participation for DNA testing and good family records. Working with dedicated people who search their families histories and getting good DNA participation form multiple given surname families is what makes success. Standing alone somewhere just hoping and waiting will not solve your project's problems. Participation and working with family members to bring together your family history will solve many a problem. God Bless. Herb Hendricks Retired NASA Physicist Hendricks DNA Project Group Administrator Secretary Hendricks Family Association Herb_316@MSN.com<mailto:Herb_316@MSN.com> 1210 Long Meadow DR Lynchburg, VA 24502 434 832 7246 Major/Smith/Hendricks http://www.ftdna.com/public/hendricks/<http://www.ftdna.com/public/hendricks/> ----- Original Message ----- From: EASYSKIER@aol.com<mailto:EASYSKIER@aol.com> To: Herb_316@msn.com<mailto:Herb_316@msn.com> Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 3:38 AM Subject: Re: [SCLAUREN] A True DNA Story Hi Herb......I am interested in doing a DNA study for my family. What would be a good site to find out more about the testing, the cost and the best place to have it done? Carole

In a message dated 2/16/2006 10:24:04 PM Eastern Standard Time, Herb_316@msn.com writes: To me the key in life is for responsible people to tell people all the fact and not use little white lies to get people into a DNA testing program. Amen to that in all aspects of life and human interaction....... Y