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    1. [McMines] Dunsmuir/Coal Miner to Coal Baron
    2. Linda Nordby
    3. With some discussion on the Dunsmore/Dunsmuir Surname and mining, I thought this may be of interest to some. Robert DUNSMUIR was British Columbia Canada's first millionaire. He was born in Ayrshire, his death certificate apparently lists Burleith/ Riccarton Ayr as his birth place: He died -April 12, 1889 age 64 at Victoria BC. BC Archives # 1889-09-006922 #B13077, microfilm #1927287. Portions of the following are taken from the books "Three Dollar Dreams"& "Boss Whistle" written by Lynne Bowen, published by Oolichan Books &" Seven Shillings a Year", The History of Vancouver Island by Charles Lillard. His official biography stated that he was the son & grandson of Coalmasters. There is no birth certificate in existence for Robert DUNSMUIR raising the speculation as to his true birth parents. He was brought up by his Uncle, Boyd GILMOUR whose wife was Jean DUNSMORE. Robert later married Joanna Oliver WHITE, the daughter of Agnes CROOKS and Alexander White of Kilmarnock, Ayr.". Their first son James Dunsmuir, born July 1851 became Premier of BC and later lieutenant-governor of British Columbia. Dunsmuir built Criagdarroch Castle for his wife Joanna in Victoria BC. where she lived till her death in 1908. The Castle is now a tourist attraction. Long before Canada became a country in 1867, there were coal towns on Vancouver Island. Fort Rupert and Nanaimo were outposts of the Hudson's Bay Company and were home to a tiny group of Ayrshire miners brought around Cape Horn to develop the Coal Fields discovered by local Indians. The year was 1848. The first Ayrshire miners to arrive at Fort Rupert were John MUIR with wife Anne, daughter Marion and her two sons, nephews Archibald Muir and John MCGREGOR along with McGregors wife Mary and three sons., John SMITH, wife Marion and sons. In 1850 the company looked again to Ayrshire for a Oversman for their operations at Fort Rupert, found and hired Boyd Gilmour. He along with Arthur QUIGLEY, Archibald FRENCH and Robert DUNSMUIR formed the next group of miners to arrive. One man in this group would become fabulously wealthy and famous. Robert Dunsmuir, a man of singular ability and determination would parlay those traits into a fortune in coal mines,railroads, ships, iron works and real estate. In 1869 reportedly while on a fishing trip to Divers Lake, a small insignificant puddle, Robert Dunsmuir would find an outcropping of coal which would make him a fortune. As a member of the group of Scottish miners first sent to Fort Rupert and then to Nanaimo he had worked as a miner and then an Oversman.He was 44 yrs old when he discovered the outcropping, but before his premature death in 1889 Dunsmuir established an empire based on coal from his mines at Wellington, and on the huge land grant he received from the Canadian Government as payment for building a railway link between Nanaimo and Victoria. This agreement not only gave him one-fith of the Island, but all coal, coal oil, ores, stones,clay, marble, slates,mines and minerals in or under the land. He was well on his was to becoming BC's leading capitalist. He also acquired a reputation for ruthless labour practices, which helped to contribute to his burgeoning wealth and which left thousands of his miners feeling resentful and oppressed. The Dunsmuir legacy, however floundered on the lack of heirs in the third generation and in 1910 the coal interest was sold to Canadian Collieries, and by 1930 most of the fortune had been dissipated. What remains of the Dunsmuir legend in the coal towns of Vancouver Island, is a legacy of oppression. The name is synonymous among coal miners with the tyranny of the boss. With kind regards, Linda A.Nordby Qualicum Beach, B.C. Canada [email protected] Researching: My Ayrshire Roots LOGAN, PENNAL, REID, McKEAN, LOVE, FREW, KERR & CALDWELL

    10/03/2000 07:43:54
    1. [McMines] DUNSMORE/DUNSMUIR in Lanark
    2. Pam Thomson
    3. Hi , I'm also a DUNSMORE descendant from Barony, LKS. My family is full of men named John DUNSMORE/DUNSMUIR with connections to Cadder, Shettleston, Carlene and Barony and Govan. I have email addresses for 3 others who have an interest in this family in this area and will pass them on to anyone who contacts me. Here is some information I was given- it came from the Spring 1994 issue of the Glasgow & West of Scotland Family History Society - "A Dunsmuir (used interchangeably with Dunsmore in the article) family who worked in coal pits can be traced from around the beginning of the 18th century around the eastern and southern environs of Glasgow: Barony parish, Old and New Monkland, to Eastwood, and possibly into Ayrshire. Robert Dunsmuir, sometime in Shettleston, had three children, Robert John and Janet. Robert Jr. married Janet Provand in 1702, and John married Christian Donald in 1710....numerous descendants in Old Monkland and at Pollokshaws." Pam > > Hi Listers, > I am interested to know if there are any records that might give me > further information about my great great greatgrandfather who was a Manager > of Ironstone mines in 1851 probably in Auchinleck, Ayrshire. Previously, > he had been a miner in Airdrie and also an engine-keeper and then he and > his family moved to Auchinleck. > He was Robert DUNSMORE b 1810 in Barony, Lanarkshire and he married > Penuel BAILLIE ( spelling Penwall in OPR) in 1833 in New Monklands. His father > was also Robert Dunsmore b.1784 in Barony Parish, Lanarkshire and was a > collier in Faskine,Greenend and Gunnie and in 1851 was described as > Controller of Mines. > Any information about the DUNSMOREs or the mines they were invoved with > would be very welcome. > > Regards, > Penuel Ellis-Brown ( Mrs ) > Bolney, W.Sussex, England > Web-site at http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~penuel/index.htm > > ****************************** > NDFHS Member #10463 > Rootsweb Sponsor > *********************** > Researching at present > England > > Northumberland HERDMAN / ALMOND / BURNS / GOODMAN / GRAHAM / FLOCKER / CHARLTON > Durham BURDON / HUNTER > Lancashire- Liverpool / West Derby ELLIS / BROWN / GUNN > Warwickshire- Kenilworth , Balsall BROWN / LEATHERLAND / HATHAWAY > Northamptonshire- Welford and surrounds KNIGHT / BILLING > > Scotland > > Ayrshire JOHNSTON(E) / ROSS / MCMILLAN > Lanarkshire and Ayrshire BAILLIE / DUNSMORE > Argyll SMITH / MCPHAIL / DEWAR > > Worldwide PENUEL / PENIEL/ PENWELL and variants as a forename or surname. -- Pam Thomson in BC, Canada A Proud Rootsweb Sponsor Researching Fairweather & Todrick mailto:[email protected]

    10/01/2000 05:25:05
    1. [McMines] Ian Winstanley
    2. Jim Rouse
    3. Hi All, Ian Winstanley's Coal Mining History Resource Centre which was formerly at wkweb5 is now back at http://www.cmhrc.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk Regards Jim Rouse Tasmania

    09/29/2000 04:19:22
    1. [McMines] Dunsmore family
    2. Penuel Ellis-Brown
    3. Hi Listers, I am interested to know if there are any records that might give me further information about my great great greatgrandfather who was a Manager of Ironstone mines in 1851 probably in Auchinleck, Ayrshire. Previously, he had been a miner in Airdrie and also an engine-keeper and then he and his family moved to Auchinleck. He was Robert DUNSMORE b 1810 in Barony, Lanarkshire and he married Penuel BAILLIE ( spelling Penwall in OPR) in 1833 in New Monklands. His father was also Robert Dunsmore b.1784 in Barony Parish, Lanarkshire and was a collier in Faskine,Greenend and Gunnie and in 1851 was described as Controller of Mines. Any information about the DUNSMOREs or the mines they were invoved with would be very welcome. Regards, Penuel Ellis-Brown ( Mrs ) Bolney, W.Sussex, England Web-site at http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~penuel/index.htm ****************************** NDFHS Member #10463 Rootsweb Sponsor *********************** Researching at present England Northumberland HERDMAN / ALMOND / BURNS / GOODMAN / GRAHAM / FLOCKER / CHARLTON Durham BURDON / HUNTER Lancashire- Liverpool / West Derby ELLIS / BROWN / GUNN Warwickshire- Kenilworth , Balsall BROWN / LEATHERLAND / HATHAWAY Northamptonshire- Welford and surrounds KNIGHT / BILLING Scotland Ayrshire JOHNSTON(E) / ROSS / MCMILLAN Lanarkshire and Ayrshire BAILLIE / DUNSMORE Argyll SMITH / MCPHAIL / DEWAR Worldwide PENUEL / PENIEL/ PENWELL and variants as a forename or surname.

    09/28/2000 08:16:42
    1. [McMines] PLEAN COLLIERY;1920's
    2. Greg and Laurie White
    3. Does anyone have a photo of the PLEAN COLLIERY, around 1922? I'm especially interested in the Plean Colliery Disaster of July 13, 1922. I lost a relative, JOHN HUNTER, in this explosion and would like to know how he fits into our family. (My great grandfather, kept a report of the explosion.) greg White, CANADA - ---------------------------------------------------------- Name : Greg and Laurie White Company : St. John's United Church Address : 167 Bedford Drive City : Stratford, Ontario, CANADA, N5A 5J7 Buisness Phone : (519) 271-3683 Fax Number: (519) 273-0739 Home Number: (519) 273-0739 - ----------------------------------------------------------

    09/24/2000 09:28:32
    1. [McMines] Miners records
    2. Hi Jim and listers, There is a book, TRACING YOUR SCOTTISH ANCESTORS a GUIDE TO ANCESTRY RESEARCH AT THE SCOTTISH RECORD OFFICE. It has 5 paragraphs on coal miners records. by CECIL SINCLAIR.

    09/24/2000 03:07:09
    1. [McMines] re-Cambuslang Colliery
    2. merrylee
    3. Would there be any information on line re this Colliery? I understand it was owned by the Duke of Hamilton.I am interested in one of the managers Mungo BROWN. Any help would be appreciated thank you merrylee

    09/24/2000 08:51:37
    1. [McMines] Coal Town, Fordel, Fife
    2. R & E Adamson
    3. Hi all, I have just joined this list. My interest is in Coal Town, Fordel, Fife, (and the Fordel coal works), where I have a number of people in my family tree who lived in Coaltown, Fordel, and nearby, for at least 3 generations. Described variously as "The Coll Toun", "The Coal Town of Fordel Moor" in baptismal records. Nothing remains of this village today , I believe. Anyone with interests in this village I'd be pleased to make contact. Dalgety parish section of the "New Statistical Account of Scotland. Part X- Fife (1830's)" indicates 798 people living in " Rows of Collier Houses ". "In 1755, the [whole] population of the parish was stated to be 761. Since that period it has been nearly doubled. The principal cause of its increase is to be attributed to the extension of the Fordel coal-works, and to several small feus, which have been granted by the proprietor on his lands in the neighbourhood of the colliery. " see: http://www.ffhsoc.freeserve.co.uk/fifestats.htm >From Dalgety parish records, 2 - John Adamson Born - 5 Nov 1721 Coaltown, Fordel, Fife, SCT Died - Bef 1731 Coaltown, Fife, SCT 2 - James Adamson Born - 13 Apr 1724 Coaltown, Fordel, Fife, SCT sp- Agnes Stanhouse Chr. - 24 Jan 1720 Dalgety, Fife, SCT Mar. - 16 Jul 1749 Aberdour, Fife, SCT Rob Adamson Brisbane, Queensland Australia

    09/22/2000 09:14:08
    1. [McMines] Re: Veteran Miners List
    2. Jill Smith
    3. Hi Mary, Thanks for posting the list of names. I think I've found several connections there for my lines!! -- Jill Smith on the beautiful North Coast of NSW Australia

    09/21/2000 12:11:21
    1. [McMines] Where did they work etc.
    2. John McLinden
    3. Hello, everyone! I'm looking for any information about some of my families who worked in the central/southern Ayrshire coalfields in the middle of the 19th century. Ayr/Newton,Tarbolton, Dalrymple, Wallacetown, the Cumnocks, Kirkmichael, Coylton, Patna, etc.. The names I am interested in are: Owen Burns and family James Lowrie/Laurie and family McSevney - many of this name David Findlay and family James Niven McKay and family James Gourlay and family I'm trying to find out more about their mining activities and wonder if anyone has any information which might include reference to any of these names Regards, J.

    09/20/2000 04:02:36
    1. [McMines] Fife Veteran Miners 1945 - - S to End
    2. Index of Veteran Employees taken from the book David Hunter describes as a record of the Veteran employees of the Fife Coal Co. employed by the Company at 15th August 1945. The men are at least 65 years old in that year. (S to End) SEAMENS, Charles, Annfield House, Cardenden, Bowhill Colliery SHARP, Alexander, 67 Holyrood Pl., Dunfermline, Comrie Colliery SHARP, John, 2 Adams Villa, Kelty, Aitken Colliery SKENE, Alexander, 69 Foulford St., Cowdenbeath, Lindsay Colliery SKINNER, Alexander, Dunaird, Halbeath, Cowdenbeath No. 7 Colliery SKINNER, John, 161 Broad St., Cowdenbeath, Aitken Colliery SMART, William, 32 Seventeenth St., Bowhill, Bowhill Colliery SMITH, Alexander S., 24 Somerville Rd., Leven, Frances Colliery Office SMITH, Thomas, Allison Pl., Kelty, Aitken Colliery SNEDDON, James, Rosehaw Cottage, Keltyhill Rd., Kelty, Aitken Colliery SPINKS, Charles, 25 Victoria St., Boreland, Frances Colliery STEEL, Charles MacGregor, 19 Garry Park, Lochore, Mary Colliery STEEL, John, 19 Garry Park, Lochore, Mary Colliery STEVENSON, James, Blairadam Tavern, Kelty, Benarty Mine STEVENSON, Robert, 3 North Croall Pl., Kelty, Aitken Colliery STEWART, Roderick, 13 Woodend Cottages, Hill of Beath, Lindsay Colliery STIRLING, Alex., 181 Broad St., Cowdenbeath, Cowdenbeath No. 7 Colliery SUTHERLAND, James, 56 Mungall St., Lumphinnans, Lumphinnans No. XI Colliery TAYLOR, John, 18 Blair St., Kelty, Aitken Colliery TAYLOR, William, 39 Natal Pl., Cowdenbeath, Lindsay Colliery THOMSON, George M., 10 Chalmers St., Dunfermline, Central Offices, Cowdenbeath TULLOCH, James, 1 Pit Row, Kirkford, Cowdenbeath No. 7 Colliery URQUHART, Robert, 24 Sixth St., Bowhill, Bowhill Colliery VEITCH, John, 5 Woodend Cottage, Cowdenbeath, Lindsay Colliery WALKER, Robert, Crossburn, Station Rd., Kelty, Lumphinnans No. XI Colliery WALLACE, George, 59 Stenhouse St., Cowdenbeath, Aitken Colliery WALLACE, Thomas, 25 First St., Kinglassie, Kinglassie Colliery WATSON, Alexander, Main St., Newmills, Valleyfield Colliery WATSON, William, 14 Oak St., Kelty, Aitken Colliery WEBB, John, South St., Milnathort, Aitken Colliery WELSH, Alexander, 63 Bellfield Crescent, Kirkcaldy, Frances Colliery WESTWATER, William, 39 Sligo St., Lumphinnans, Aitken Colliery WILLIAMSON, Thomas Methven, 136 Methilhaven Rd., Methil, Wellsgreen Colliery WILLIAMSON, William, Rose Cottage, Ashgrove, Kinglassie, Kinglassie Colliery WILSON, Alex., 93 Stenhouse St., Cowdenbeath, Central Works WILSON, David, Hawthorn Cottage, Station Rd., Kelty, Aitken Colliery WILSON, James, 168 Stenhouse St., Cowdenbeath, Cowdenbeath No. 7 Colliery WILSON, John, 69 Montrose Cottages, Lochore, Mary Colliery WRIGHT, Henry, Hunson Pl., Kelty, Aitken Colliery YOUNG, Alexander, 14 Stewart St., Dysart, Randolph Colliery YOUNG, James R., 6 First St., Bowhill, Bowhill Colliery

    09/19/2000 04:18:56
    1. [McMines] Fife Veteran Miners 1945 - N thru R
    2. Index of Veteran Employees taken from the book David Hunter describes as a record of the Veteran employees of the Fife Coal Co. employed by the Company at 15th August 1945. The men are at least 65 years old in that year. (N thru R) NAIRN, George, 24 Balgonie Ter., Cardenden, Bowhill Colliery NESS, John, 3 The Walk, Dysart, Frances Colliery NICHOLSON, Thomas, 77 Bridge St., Cowdenbeath, Cowdenbeath No. 7 Colliery NICOL, Andrew, Woodend Park, Cardenden, Bowhill Colliery PAGE, William, Levenview, Kinnesswood, Kinglassie colliery PATERSON, James, 40 Mungall St., Lumphinnans, Lumphinnans No. XI Colliery PATERSON, James, Burnside Cottage, Newmills, Valleyfield Colliery PATERSON, Peter, 11 Alexander St., Cowdenbeath, Central Works PATERSON, William, William Ter., Kelty, Lindsay Colliery PATON, John, 89 Links St., Kirkcaldy, Frances Colliery PEATTIE, John, Cocklaw St., Kelty, Lindsay Colliery PELLOW, William, Low Causeway, Torryburn, Valleyfield Colliery PENMAN, Peter, 40 Blair St., Kelty, Aitken Colliery PENMAN, William, 6 Rosewell Ter., Kelty, Lindsay Colliery PENNY, Alex., 161 Station Rd., Kelty, Lumphinnans No. XI Colliery PETERS, William, 157 Station Rd., Kelty, Aitken Colliery PHILP, Robert, 3 Viewfield Pl., Kelty, Aitken Colliery PRATT, Andrew, 4 Castle Ave., Lochore, Mary Colliery PRYDE, Robert, 25 Nasmyth Pl., Kelty, Aitken Colliery PRYDE, William, 79 Centre St., Kelty, Aitken Colliery RATTRAY, Archibald, 4 Frankford Pl., Cowdenbeath, Housing Dept. REEEKIE, William, 7 Newton Pl., Wellsgreen, Wellsgreen Colliery REID, Sir Charles, Norwood, Crossgates REID, Robert Paton, 7 Heggies Sq., Kirkcaldy, Frances Colliery REID, William, Mossgreen St., Kelty, Aitken Colliery RENNIE, James, 97 Centre St., Kelty, Aitken Colliery RENSHAW, James, 8 North Croall Pl., Kelty, Aitken Colliery RICHARDSON, Alexander, Brown's Bldgs., Kelty, Lindsay Colliery RICHARDSON, Charles, 4 King St., Cowdenbeath, Kirkford Colliery RICHARDSON, John, 2 North Croall Pl., Kelty, Central Power Station ROBERTSON, Alexander, 224 Foulford Rd., Cowdenbeath, Aitken Colliery ROBSON, Thomas, Main St., Kinglassie, Kinglassie Colliery ROSS, Alex., 95 Main St., Lumphinnans, Lindsay Colliery ROSS, David, 97 Moss-side Rd., Cowdenbeath, Central Works

    09/19/2000 04:01:37
    1. [McMines] Fife Veteran Miners 1945 - I J K L & M
    2. Index of Veteran Employees taken from the book David Hunter describes as a record of the Veteran employees of the Fife Coal Co. employed by the Company at 15th August 1945. The men are at least 65 years old in that year. (I, J, K, L & M) INCHES, William, Lawrence St., Kelty, Aitken Colliery INNES, John, 13 Millar's Bldgs., Kelty, Aitken Colliery JOHNSTONE, John, 47 Chapel St., Cowdenbeath, Foulford Washery KELLY, James, 21 Brucefield Ter., Lochgelly, Lumphinnans No. XI Colliery KERR, John, Josephine Cottage, Jamphlars, Cardenden, Bowhill Colliery KIRK, George, 224 Perth Rd., Cowdenbeath, Central Stores KIRKWOOD, Robert Martin, Shiels Cottages, Kelty, Central Power Station LAIRD, Walter, 71 Perth Rd., Cowdenbeath, Lumphinnans No. XI Colliery LIDDLE, Thomas, Ramsay Bldgs., Kelty, Aitken Colliery LISTER, Adam, 288 Perth Rd., Cowdenbeath, Lumphinnans No. XI Colliery LONSDALE, John, 47 Lochgelly Rd., Cowdenbeath, Lumphinnans No. XI Colliery MACCAFFRAY, Thomas, 7 Balfour St., Kirkcaldy, Frances Colliery MACDONALD, John, 44 Miller St., Gallatown, Frances Colliery MACDONALD, William, 1 Wellsgreen Pl., Rosie, Frances Colliery MACKAY, Archibald, Briarlea, Millar's Bldgs., Kelty, Lindsay Colliery MACKIE, Henry, Bow House, Dothan, Bowhill Colliery MACKIE, Joseph, 7 Woodend Park, Cardenden, Bowhill Colliery MACLEOD, Archibald, 102 Moss-side Rd., Cowdenbeath, Cowdenbeath No. 7 Colliery MACLEOD, John, 28 School Wynd, Kinross, Aitken Colliery MCCONVILLE, James 52 Centre St., Kelty, Aitken Colliery MCDONOUGH, Stephen, 7 Woodend Cottages, Hill of Beath, Cowdenbeath No. 7 Colliery MCGHIE, George, 16 Keir St., Cowdenbeath, Lumphinnans No. XI Colliery MCGILL, John, 4 Pretoria Pl., Kirkford, Foulford Washery MCLAUCHLAN, John, 50 Balgonie Ter., Cardenden, Bowhill Colliery MCRAE, Charles, 11 Balgonie Ter., Cardenden, Bowhill Colliery MALCOLM, John, William Ter., Kelty, Aitken Colliery MARTIN, Adam, 10 Keltyhill Rd., Kelty, Lumphinnans No. XI Colliery MATHIESON, David, 45 Denfield Ave., Cardenden, Bowhill Colliery MATHIESON, James, 1 Woodend Park, Cardenden, Bowhill Colliery MATTHEW, William, Newbigging Rd., Carnock, Comrie Colliery MEEK, John, 75 Nasmyth Pl., Kelty, Aitken Colliery METHVEN, James, 28 Broad St., Cowdenbeath, Lindsay Colliery MILLAR, Alexander, 17 James St., Cowdenbeath, Cowdenbeath No. 7 Colliery MILLAR, James, 198 Broad St., Cowdenbeath, Bowhill Colliery MILLAR, John, 3a Drum St., Kelty, Aitken Colliery MILLER, Joseph, 65 Arthur St., Cowdenbeath, Lumphinnans No. XI Colliery MILLER, William, 51 Foulford Rd., Cowdenbeath, Central Works MILLER, William, 67 Frances Row, Boreland, Randolph Colliery MITCHELL, Robert, 13 South St., Dysart, Frances Colliery MITCHELL, William, Co-operative Bldgs., Cocklaw St., Kelty, Aitken Colliery MOIR, James, 13 Adams Ter., Kelty, Lindsay Colliery MORGAN, Arthur, Main St., Kinglassie, Kinglassie Colliery MORRIS, David, 143 Foulford Rd., Cowdenbeath, Lindsay Colliery MORTON, Thomas, 112 Blair St., Kelty, Aitken Colliery MOYES, David, Ivy Cottage, Donibristle, Cowdenbeath No. 7 Colliery MOYES, Thomas, 77 King St., Cowdenbeath, Lindsay Colliery MUIR, James, Doune Ter., Kelty, Lindsay Colliery MUIR, James, 66 Hall St., Cowdenbeath, Lumphinnans No. XI Colliery MUIR, William, Allendale, Station Rd., Kelty, Aitken Colliery MULLAN, James, 16 Moray Cottages, Kelty, Aitken Colliery MURDOCH, John W., Marchmont, Broad St., Cowdenbeath, Land Sale Dept. MURDOCK, Robert, 4 Moss-side Rd., Cowdenbeath, Central Works MURRAY John, Balgonie Cottages, Cardenden, Bowhill Colliery MUSTARD, James, 165 Broad St., Cowdenbeath, Kirkford Colliery

    09/19/2000 03:44:07
    1. Re: [McMines] Friendly Societies
    2. Sandra
    3. I have been in contact with a Mr. Dan Weinbren who publishes a newsletter "Friendly Society Research Group" for the Open University in Milton Keynes. Dan has been very helpful in my search for info on the Ancient Order of Free Gardners, with my gggrandfather, William Nesbit, being a member in Dalmellington. He has posted an short article for me on William in his newsletter. He has also put me in contact with a Mr. Cooper, who has written a book on the subject and is the curator of the Grand Lodge of Scotland Museum and Library. I have Mr. Cooper's and Mr. Weinbren's email address for those that are interested. There are records out there. We have our William's apron and it lists his lodge as-- Dalmellington Thistle Lodge #335. We have purchased Mr. Cooper's book on "The Order of the Free Gardners" and in it he lists names and dates. Good luck with your research, Sandy Nesbit Money in Phoenix researching Nesbit Ireland>Scotland>Pittsburgh, PA McCracken Ireland>Scotland George, Cameron, Margaret Teague wrote: > Dear List and Judy, > > I received one response saying that they had been searching for Friendly > Society records in the Dalmellington area and had been told that no records > had survived. > > If anyone has any success with uncovering Friendly Society records, please > post it on the list as there are several of us on the list interested in > locating these records for the areas in Scotland where our ancestors lived. > > Jo Teague > > ============================== > Search ALL of RootsWeb's mailing lists in real time. > RootsWeb's Personalized Mailing Lists: > http://pml.rootsweb.com/

    09/18/2000 11:46:46
    1. [McMines] Friendly Societies
    2. Margaret Teague
    3. Dear List and Judy, I received one response saying that they had been searching for Friendly Society records in the Dalmellington area and had been told that no records had survived. If anyone has any success with uncovering Friendly Society records, please post it on the list as there are several of us on the list interested in locating these records for the areas in Scotland where our ancestors lived. Jo Teague

    09/18/2000 10:08:35
    1. [McMines] coalminers
    2. Valerie Gray-Wilson
    3. hello everybody, this is my second time ,would anybody know the names of the coalmines in coalsnaughton, pottery tillicoultry area's of clackmannan, my g/grand dad James Gordon & Helen nee fife were on 1891 cencus at candles row, coalsnaugton ,Iam also researching the surnames of allan, cook, snaddan all & children coalminers around these area;s, & finely a brother of my g/dad alexander Gordon was killed in an mining accident 1919 at culross fife, address valleyfield colliery u/r low torrie torryburn, would there be any record;s on the accidents of these miner;s he was only 21, it seems the coalmining was more in the dunferline / torryburn areas, in the early 1900's where my dad was born . any help I would be grateful valerie gray-wilson (nee Gordon)

    09/18/2000 07:02:39
    1. [McMines] Lanark miner details
    2. Hello List and Jo Teague, Jo recently asked the list about records on Lanark mines. Has anyone answered this query and I missed it? I too have relatives that worked in that area and I'm also wondering about names and places. My family names in Lanark are Russell and Neilson. Judi Ferguson Sawyer email [email protected] << From: "Margaret Teague" <[email protected]> Does anyone on the list know if any records were kept from the Friendly Societies, or Miner's Unions/Associations in Scotland in the mid to late 19th Century in the Lanarkshire mining regions and have they survived? If so, where would these records be today? Were there any records created concerning the assignment of company housing to miners or the payment of their rent or payroll that survive? Any information along these lines would be appreciated. Jo Teague >>

    09/18/2000 02:16:08
    1. [McMines] Fife Veteran Miners 1945 - F G & H
    2. Con't: Index of Veteran Employees taken from the book David Hunter describes as a record of the Veteran employees of the Fife Coal Co. employed by the Company at 15th August 1945. The men are at least 65 years old in that year. (C D & E) FAIRFULL, Thomas, 75 Alexander St., East Wemyss, Wellsgreen Colliery FARMER, Andrew, 35 Burnside Cottages, Kinglassie Colliery FERGUSON, James, 64 West Park St., Cowdenbeath, Lumphinnans No. XI Colliery FERGUSON, John, 115 Foulford Rd., Cowdenbeath, Kirkford Colliery FERNIE, John, Lower Oakfield, Kelty, Aitken Colliery FERRIER, Peter, 2 Nivingstone Pl., Lumphinnans, Lumphinnans No. XI Colliery FINLAYSON, Peter, 49 Main St., Lumphinnans, Comrie Colliery FINNIE, John, 5 Main St., Hill of Beath, Cowdenbeath No. 7 colliery FLEMING, Robert, 70 Mina Crescent, Kinglassie, Kinglassie Colliery FORD, John, Moray House, Kelty, Safety Department FRIEL, William, 28 King St., Cowdenbeath, Central Power Station GALLACHER, Daniel, 122 Barclay St., Cowdenbeath, Lumphinnans No. XI Colliery GARVIE, Alexander, 27 Centre St., Kelty, Aitken Colliery GILBERTSON, John, Keltyhill Rd., Kelty, Central Power Station GILFILLAN, James, 3 Cocklaw St., Kelty, Aitken Colliery GOW, Andrew, 28 Randolph St., Boreland, Randolph Colliery GRANT, Duncan, 50 South Glencraig, Glencraig, Cowdenbeath No. 7 Colliery GRANT, Peter, 6 Dumbiedykes, Lochore, Mary Colliery HAILSTONES, Thomas, 4 Railway Cottages, Kelty, Aitken Colliery HARROWER, James, 17 Montrose St., Lochore, Mary Colliery HARVEY, William, 14 Lochgelly Rd., Cowdenbeath, Aitken Colliery HASTIE, Charles, 1 First St., Kinglassie, Kinglassie Colliery HEARD, John, Comrie Village, Oakley, Comrie Colliery HENDERSON, James, Dalwhirr, Glen Lyon Rd., Leven HERD, David, 33 Seventeenth St., Bowhill, Bowhill Colliery HERD, John, 33 Balgreggie Park, Cardenden, Bowhill Colliery HERD, William, Allison Pl., Kelty, Aitken Colliery HERRIOT, James, 62 Arthur Pl., Cowdenbeath, Lumphinnans No. XI Colliery HODGE, James, B.E.M., Beechbank Cottage, Kelty, Lindsay Colliery HODGE, Michael, McPherson's Bldgs., Kelty, Aitken Colliery HODGE, Russell, Ashgrove Pl., Kelty, Aitken Colliery HOEY, William, 16 Droverhall Pl., Crossgates, Kirkford Colliery HOGG, William, Long Row, Denend, Bowhill Colliery HOOD, John, 15 Foulford Pl., Cowdenbeath, Lindsay Colliery HOUSTON, Cornelius, 40 Sixteenth St., Bowhill, Bowhill Colliery HUME, Archibald, 32 Fourteenth St., Bowhill, Kinglassie Colliery HUNTER, James, 1 Terris Pl., Cowdenbeath, Aitken Colliery HUNTER, William, Elmbank, Main St., Kelty, Aitken Colliery HUTCHISON, Henry, 67 Adams Ter., Kelty, Aitken Colliery HYND, Alexander, 38 Sixteenth St., Bowhill, Bowhill Colliery

    09/18/2000 12:01:33
    1. [McMines] Fife Veteran Miners 1945 - C D & E
    2. Index of Veteran Employees taken from the book David Hunter describes as a record of the Veteran employees of the Fife Coal Co. employed by the Company at 15th August 1945. The men are at least 65 years old in that year. (C D & E) CAMERON, Duncan, 73 Blair St., Kelty, Aitken Colliery CAMPBELL, Peter, 239 Foulford Rd., Cowdenbeath, Cowdenbeath No. 7 Colliery CANAVAN, Bernard, B.E.M., 3 Chapel St., High Valleyfield, Newmills, Valleyfield Colliery CARLOW, Charles Augustus, Linnwood Hall, Leven CARROLL, Henry, 22 Nasmyth Pl., Kelty, Aitken Colliery CARSCADDEN, David, 55 Gladstone Ter., Kinross, Blairadam Brickworks CHRISTIE, James, 14 Kirkland Gardens, Methil, Frances Colliery CHRYSTAL, James, 5 Main St., Thornton, Randolph Colliery CLARK, George, 88 Main St., Lumphinnans, Mary Colliery CLARK, John, 82 Normand Rd., Dysart, Thornton Mine CLARK, Peter, 71 Normand Rd., Dysart, Randolph Colliery CLARK, William 21 Lawrence Park, Kinglassie, Kinglassie Colliery CLARK, William 28 Centre St., Kelty, Lindsay Colliery CLARKSON, John, 50 Blair St., Kelty, Lindsay Colliery CONDIE, Duncan, 46 Randolph St., Cowdenbeath, Cowdenbeath No. 7 Colliery CONDIE, George, 34 Foulford St., Cowdenbeath, Cowdenbeath No. 7 Colliery COOK, John, 26 Oak St., Kelty, Blairenbathie Mine COOK, William, 16 Croall Pl. Kelty, Aitken Colliery COOK, William, 28 Old Perth Rd., Cowdenbeath, Cowdenbeath No. 7 Colliery COWAN, James, 61 Broad St., Cowdenbeath, Central Stores CRAWFORD, Charles, 111 Nasmyth Pl., Kelty, Aitken Colliery CRICHTON, David, Main St., Kinglassie, Kinglassie Colliery CRICHTON, George, 24 Tenth St., Bowhill, Bowhill Colliery CUNNINGHAM, Colin, 69 Frances Row, Boreland, Frances Colliery CUNNINGHAM, Robert S., 23 Victoria St., Boreland, Randolph Colliery DALL, John, 3 Droverhall Pl., Mossgreen, Crossgates, Lindsay Colliery DAVIDSON, Robert, 5 Ballingry Rd., Lochore, Mary Colliery DICK, David, 68 Frances Row, Boreland, Randolph Colliery DICK, George, 43 Broad St., Cowdenbeath, Cowdenbeath No. 7 Colliery DIGAN, Patrick, 59 Primmer Pl., Cowdenbeath, Aitken Colliery DONNACHIE, William, 28 Factory Rd., Cowdenbeath, Housing Department DRYBURGH, Alexander, 4 Eighteenth St., Bowhill, Bowhill Colliery DRYBURGH, Thomas, 3 East Cottages, Bowhill, Bowhill Colliery DUFFY, William, 14 Keltyhill Rd., Kelty, Lumphinnans No. XI Colliery DUNLOP, James, 36 Natal Pl., Cowdenbeath, Central Works DUNN, Henry, 80 Union St., Kelty, Aitken Colliery EASTON, John, 145 Main St., Lochgelly, Kinglassie Colliery EASTON, William, 29 Birnie St., Lochgelly, Aitken Colliery ERSKINE, Peter, 306 Broad St., Cowdenbeath, Cowdenbeath No. 7 Colliery ERSKINE, Thomas, 29 Croall St., Kelty, Lindsay Colliery EVANS, Christopher, 51 Victoria Rd., Kirkcaldy, Kinglassie Colliery

    09/18/2000 09:47:35
    1. [McMines] Fife Veteran Miners 1945 A-B
    2. Here is the first installment of the Index of Veteran Employees taken from the book David Hunter describes as a record of the Veteran employees of the Fife Coal Co. employed by the Company at 15th August 1945. The men are at least 65 years old in that year. Mary Searles ADAMS, David, 192 Perth Rd., Cowdenbeath, Central Stores ADAMSON, John, Cowdenend Cottage, Hill of Beath, Cowdenbeath No. 7 Colliery ALLAN, John, 5 School St., Cowdenbeath, Central Stores ALLAN, John, Harrower Bank, Kirkford, Aitken Colliery ALLAN, John, Lomondview, Cardenden, Bowhill Colliery ANDERSON, Alexander, 14 Gilmour St., Cowdenbeath, Lumphinnans No. XI Colliery ANDERSON, John, 6 Union St., Kelty, Lindsay Colliery ANDERSON, Walter, 47 Nasmyth Pl., Kelty, Lindsay Colliery BAIN, James, Mossgreen St., Kelty, Aitken Colliery BALD, Archibald D., 16 Old Perth Rd., Cowdenbeath, Central Offices, Cowdenbeath BATCHELOR, Alexander, 101 Blair St., Kelty, Lindsay Colliery BATHGATE, William, 194 Foulford Rd., Cowdenbeath, Central Works BAULD, Alex., Main St., Crossford, Aitken Colliery BAXTER, David, 1 The Braes, Dysart, Frances Colliery BETT, Peter, 11 North Croall Pl., Kelty, Lindsay Colliery BEVERIDGE, Adam, 54 Stenhouse St., Cowdenbeath, Lumphinnans No. XI Colliery BEVERIDGE, Alexander, 1 Shiels Cottages, Kelty, Aitken Colliery BEVERIDGE, William, 18 Croall Pl, Kelty, Aitken Colliery BLAIR, Alexander, 26 Gammie Pl,, Cardenden, Bowhill Colliery BOWMAN, James, 290 Broad St., Cowdenbeath, Coal Preparation Department BOWMAN, Samuel, 16 Alexander Pl., Jamphlars, Cardenden, Bowhill Colliery BROWN, Alexander, 16 Fourth St., Bowhill, Bowhill Colliery BROWN, James, Mathieson's Buildings, Cardenden, Bowhill Colliery BROWN, Robert, Leslie Pl, Kelty, Aitken Colliery BROWN, Robert, 244 Broad St., Cowdenbeath, Cowdenbeath No. 7 Colliery BROWN, Struthers, 200 Foulford Rd., Cowdenbeath, Mary Colliery BROWN, William, Brown's Buildings, Kelty, Aitken Colliery BROWN, William, 92 Union St., Cowdenbeath, Cowdenbeath No. 7 Colliery BROWNLIE, Robert, 228 Foulford Rd., Cowdenbeath, Lumphinnans No. XI Colliery BURT, John, 89 Bridge St., Cowdenbeath, Aitken Colliery

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