I am trying to trace any info on mines owned by the Hutchison family. probably in Lanarkshire. Any ideas on where to look online Thanks Vicki from NZ

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Hi My greatgrandfather, John Greenshields, was killed in a pit accident, details of which my relations haven't a clue. All I have to go on was that he lived in Lesmahagow and in Douglas. Grandfather was born in 1893, so the accident must have been after that and could have just involved him and therefore not classed as a pit disaster. It might help if anyone could give me a pointer to the pits in operation in that area and if they kept records. Thank you Jean Spendlove

Hi, Woolmit is in Newton Parish and there were several pits there and some were owned by Niddrie and Benhar Coal company. During the 1926 strike two pits No's 10 and 11 at Woolmit were flooded and never re-opened.. The flooded dooks cast water up and created a burn which ran from Woolmit to Newcraighall and was at the bottom of our garden when I was a kid. The road was called the Well Road. Further up where the Well Road joined the main road, was Niddrie Cottages also belonging to the Niddrie and Benhar Coal Co. Just beside them was the Niddrie Brickworks (owned by the same co I think) and further down the road to Newcraighall village was the Klondyke pit (N&Bcoal Co) , which had a large rectangular bing as opposed to the normal peaked one. It went out under the Forth and lots of fossil fish were brought up by the miners. We had two complete tree fossils in the garden The flooded workings of Nos10 & 11 were kept at bay by a seam of whin between them and the Klondyke. Niddrie itself was further in towards Edinburgh and had a line of cottages called The Jewel Cottages at Niddrie Cross. I think there is a modern housing complex called "The Jewel" there today. Woolmit Colliery was a relatively modern pit. Bill Scott

Mary Lou, Have a look at <freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~mooreorless/Brown.htm> Andrew Moore has the same newspaper extract as you have quoted. James Brown's widow remarried and they ended up in USA.

I have a copy of a death certificate of a John Briscoe, coalminer d. Jan. 12, 1865 age 54 years. I am not related to him, but his name and death cert. were on the same page as my gggrandfather's. Anyone who wants info on this should e-mail me off line. Cheers, Russell Brown ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary Lou Alison" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, April 02, 2001 7:10 AM Subject: [McPitz] NO.11 Woolnet Colliery > Am looking for info on the location of the coalpit > where my great-grandfather died. His obit from the > Dalkeith Advertiser,21 Nov 1878, states:A MINER LOST > IN A PIT."on Wednesday forenoon,the roadsman at No.11 > pit of the Bonhar Coal Co. at Niddrie, while > goimg on his rounds,noticed that a man named James > Brown as not at his post. He observed that there was a > hole in the floor, and at once suspected he had fallen > through it into an old working. Operations were at > oonce begun, but several days elapsed before the body > was found." Further info says that James Brown died > from injuries recieved at the No.11 Woolnet Colliery. > His death was registered by his brother 'Neil' in the > district of 'Newton' in November 1878. > Also would appreciate any news of relatives of this > man > whose life was taken at the early age of 35, leaving a > widow with several children. Mary Lou Cleland-Alison > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. > http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/?.refer=text > > > ==== SCOTTISH-MINING Mailing List ==== > Visit the GENUKI Ayrshire website > http://home.clara.net/iainkerr/genuki/AYR/index.htm > <=======================================================> > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry's Library - The best collection of family history > learning and how-to articles on the Internet. > http://www.ancestry.com/learn/library > >

Mary Lou, Do you know where Niddrie is? I have a great great great uncle named James Brown who was a coal miner in Lanarkshire. I know nothing of his death. Thanks Russ Brown ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary Lou Alison" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, April 02, 2001 7:10 AM Subject: [McPitz] NO.11 Woolnet Colliery > Am looking for info on the location of the coalpit > where my great-grandfather died. His obit from the > Dalkeith Advertiser,21 Nov 1878, states:A MINER LOST > IN A PIT."on Wednesday forenoon,the roadsman at No.11 > pit of the Bonhar Coal Co. at Niddrie, while > goimg on his rounds,noticed that a man named James > Brown as not at his post. He observed that there was a > hole in the floor, and at once suspected he had fallen > through it into an old working. Operations were at > oonce begun, but several days elapsed before the body > was found." Further info says that James Brown died > from injuries recieved at the No.11 Woolnet Colliery. > His death was registered by his brother 'Neil' in the > district of 'Newton' in November 1878. > Also would appreciate any news of relatives of this > man > whose life was taken at the early age of 35, leaving a > widow with several children. Mary Lou Cleland-Alison > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. > http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/?.refer=text > > > ==== SCOTTISH-MINING Mailing List ==== > Visit the GENUKI Ayrshire website > http://home.clara.net/iainkerr/genuki/AYR/index.htm > <=======================================================> > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry's Library - The best collection of family history > learning and how-to articles on the Internet. > http://www.ancestry.com/learn/library > >

Am looking for info on the location of the coalpit where my great-grandfather died. His obit from the Dalkeith Advertiser,21 Nov 1878, states:A MINER LOST IN A PIT."on Wednesday forenoon,the roadsman at No.11 pit of the Bonhar Coal Co. at Niddrie, while goimg on his rounds,noticed that a man named James Brown as not at his post. He observed that there was a hole in the floor, and at once suspected he had fallen through it into an old working. Operations were at oonce begun, but several days elapsed before the body was found." Further info says that James Brown died from injuries recieved at the No.11 Woolnet Colliery. His death was registered by his brother 'Neil' in the district of 'Newton' in November 1878. Also would appreciate any news of relatives of this man whose life was taken at the early age of 35, leaving a widow with several children. Mary Lou Cleland-Alison __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/?.refer=text

Hi List, I am reasearching Hugh Muirhead. He was a quarry man & one of his sons were born at West Calder 1808-10. I would love to hear from others researching in the same area. Thanks, Donna.

unsubscribe JoAn Phillips Hoskins , Orlando,FL Email- <[email protected]> Home Page- <http://www.geocities.com/johos2001/> USGW Census Project <http://www.us-census.org/ IPFT [Internet Phillips Family Tree ] <http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~internetphillipsfamilytree> WEBMASTER: DEB PHILLIPS in Arkansas <http://[email protected]> ----- Original Message ----- From: "THEDALE-BROWNS" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, March 30, 2001 11:49 PM Subject: Re: [McPitz] Re: Draffan Gas Coal Pit > Hi Tom, > Tried to contact Robert McLeish but so far no response. I then > remembered an Ordinance Survey map I have of the Lesmahagow area from 1852. > It shows not only Draffan and Southfield, but two nearby coal pits! The > nearest one to Draffan (and I'm sure the pit my gggrandfather oversaw) was > less than 1/2 mile from Draffan. It is south and east of Draffan farm and > north and slightly east of Southfield. A single line Railroad ran past it > from Netherburn through Tillietudlem Station (near Fense) and ended at > Blackwood Station. The other coal pit in the immediate vicintiy was about > 3/4 mile due east of the first. Of course there are other coal pits shown > on the map but not near to Draffan. The print is very small and hard to > read. Not much info, I'm afraid, but hope it helps. > Russ > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Thomas W. Brown" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2001 9:03 AM > Subject: Re: [McPitz] Re: Draffan Gas Coal Pit > > > > Russell Brown wrote, on 17 March 2001: > > > > Subject: [McPitz] Re: Draffan Gas Coal Pit > > > > > > > Does anyone know of information on the Draffan (?) gas coal pit? My > > > GGGrandfather, John Brown, was "oversman" at that mine in 1861. My best > > > guess is that it was in the Lesmahagow area. Only four years later he > > died > > > from complications due to a mining accident. Thanks > > > Russell Brown > > > > Russell, my GF, Thomas WILLIAMSON, was born at Draffan in Lanarkshire in > > 1878, he migrated with his family to the USA in 1880 or 1881, and he died > in > > Alabama in 1929 as a result of a mine accident. My wife and I visited > > Scotland in 1995 and went to both Lesmahagow and Draffan. Draffan is > shown > > on our Granada AA road atlas of Britain: it is about four miles N-NW of > the > > village of Lesmahagow and about one mile east of the M74 highway. It is > not > > really even a community now, being only about four buildings, two of which > > are on one farm. We also visited the Craignethan Castle about 1-1/2 miles > > east of Draffan: a very interesting castle. The attendant fellow at the > > castle shop told us that he had heard of two mines in the area, the > Draffan > > and the Fense, but he did not know the exact locations. We did do some > > research at the local library in Lesmahagow, but did not succeed in > finding > > out anything about mines in the area. The library at the town of Lanark > is > > well equipped with a history and genealogy section, but on two visits > there > > so far we have not found out much about the mines in the area, which > however > > may be more our own failing than the librarians'. > > > > I would appreciate learning anything you may find out about the Draffan > > mine/mines, as I am sure that my GGF (Robert, father of Thomas) worked > > there: he was of a long line of miners in Ayrshire and Lanarkshire. I > have > > considerable information on this line, and want to post some queries about > > them on the appropriate lists, but just have had insufficient time to > > compose proper queries. Please share with me and/or the list what you > learn > > about the Draffan mine. I will try to share anything more I may learn, as > > well. > > > > Tom Brown in Virginia, USA > > > > > > ==== SCOTTISH-MINING Mailing List ==== > > Visit the Scottish Mining Museum > > http://www.scottishminingmuseum.com/ > > <================================================> > > > > ============================== > > Search over 900 million names at Ancestry.com! > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp > > > > > > > ==== SCOTTISH-MINING Mailing List ==== > Visit the GENUKI West Lothian website > http://freespace.virgin.net/david.howie/genuki/ELN/index.html > <============================================================> > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 > Source for Family History Online. Go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB > >

Hi Tom, Tried to contact Robert McLeish but so far no response. I then remembered an Ordinance Survey map I have of the Lesmahagow area from 1852. It shows not only Draffan and Southfield, but two nearby coal pits! The nearest one to Draffan (and I'm sure the pit my gggrandfather oversaw) was less than 1/2 mile from Draffan. It is south and east of Draffan farm and north and slightly east of Southfield. A single line Railroad ran past it from Netherburn through Tillietudlem Station (near Fense) and ended at Blackwood Station. The other coal pit in the immediate vicintiy was about 3/4 mile due east of the first. Of course there are other coal pits shown on the map but not near to Draffan. The print is very small and hard to read. Not much info, I'm afraid, but hope it helps. Russ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Thomas W. Brown" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2001 9:03 AM Subject: Re: [McPitz] Re: Draffan Gas Coal Pit > Russell Brown wrote, on 17 March 2001: > > Subject: [McPitz] Re: Draffan Gas Coal Pit > > > > Does anyone know of information on the Draffan (?) gas coal pit? My > > GGGrandfather, John Brown, was "oversman" at that mine in 1861. My best > > guess is that it was in the Lesmahagow area. Only four years later he > died > > from complications due to a mining accident. Thanks > > Russell Brown > > Russell, my GF, Thomas WILLIAMSON, was born at Draffan in Lanarkshire in > 1878, he migrated with his family to the USA in 1880 or 1881, and he died in > Alabama in 1929 as a result of a mine accident. My wife and I visited > Scotland in 1995 and went to both Lesmahagow and Draffan. Draffan is shown > on our Granada AA road atlas of Britain: it is about four miles N-NW of the > village of Lesmahagow and about one mile east of the M74 highway. It is not > really even a community now, being only about four buildings, two of which > are on one farm. We also visited the Craignethan Castle about 1-1/2 miles > east of Draffan: a very interesting castle. The attendant fellow at the > castle shop told us that he had heard of two mines in the area, the Draffan > and the Fense, but he did not know the exact locations. We did do some > research at the local library in Lesmahagow, but did not succeed in finding > out anything about mines in the area. The library at the town of Lanark is > well equipped with a history and genealogy section, but on two visits there > so far we have not found out much about the mines in the area, which however > may be more our own failing than the librarians'. > > I would appreciate learning anything you may find out about the Draffan > mine/mines, as I am sure that my GGF (Robert, father of Thomas) worked > there: he was of a long line of miners in Ayrshire and Lanarkshire. I have > considerable information on this line, and want to post some queries about > them on the appropriate lists, but just have had insufficient time to > compose proper queries. Please share with me and/or the list what you learn > about the Draffan mine. I will try to share anything more I may learn, as > well. > > Tom Brown in Virginia, USA > > > ==== SCOTTISH-MINING Mailing List ==== > Visit the Scottish Mining Museum > http://www.scottishminingmuseum.com/ > <================================================> > > ============================== > Search over 900 million names at Ancestry.com! > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp > >

>My gg Grandfather was James GALLOWAY, son of a collier in New Monkland. The >family seemed to move between Lanarkshire and Stirlingshire: >William GALLOWAY married Christina BAXTER 2 Dec 1852, Muiravonside. >William was born in Polmont, Stirling about 1832, I am stuck on his parents, >Any help would be appreciated. >Jim Jim, If William died in Scotland after 1855 his parents should be on the death certificate. Here in Christchurch (NZ) we can look up the indexes of Scottish briths deaths and marriages at the LDS family history centre. Then the full record for the years 1855-1875 also 1881 and 1891 can be ordered in on microfilm at a small cost. If it's outside those years you have to get it from the official records office in Scotland which costs more - but there are probably people local to you who order them in bulk at less cost than you ordering a single certificate. I believe you can also do this all on line at the web site of the Scottish Records Office. To search costs 6 pounds payable by credit card, but you can get a lot of searches (30 pages of results) for this cost. Then you can order the certificate for an additional cost. Catherine [email protected]

I am trying to trace the Lindsay family who emigrated to Bexley NSW Australia abt 1926. They were last known to be living in 'The Blocks' Fallin. Are there any lists giving the names of tenants of The Blocks? Ken

My gg Grandfather was James GALLOWAY, son of a collier in New Monkland. The family seemed to move between Lanarkshire and Stirlingshire: William GALLOWAY married Christina BAXTER 2 Dec 1852, Muiravonside. children's births: Unknown Male bef Feb 1855 Helen, Nov 1855, Muiravonside William, May 1857, Muiravonside Margaret, Dec 1858, Muiravonside Nesbitt B, Feb 1861, Muiravonside Christina B, dec 1862, Muiravonside Agnes, Mar 1865, Slammanan James, May 1867, Muiravonside George, Mar 1870, Slammanan Ann, July 1872, Slammanan All of the male children started off as Colliers. James ended up as a cycle mechanic. The Baxters were also a mining family. William was born in Polmont, Stirling about 1832, I am stuck on his parents, Any help would be appreciated. Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robyn & Paul Taylor" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2001 12:21 AM Subject: [McPitz] GALLOWAY COLLIERS > There seem to have been several Galloway families who were colliers in Old Monkland. > > Parents - William GALLOWAY and Margaret GILLESPIE > Children - > William, born 1801, Polmont > Archibald, born 1803, Polmont > Archibald, born 1805, Polmont > James, born 1809, Muiravonside > Jane/Jean, born 1811, Muiravonside > Alexander, born 1813, Muiravonside > Christian, born 1815, Muiravonside > Peter, born 1818, Muiravonside > > The whole family seemed to have moved to Monklands about 1840, and they all started the next generation. > > RobynTaylor - Waiheke Island, NZ > > > ==== SCOTTISH-MINING Mailing List ==== > Visit the Dunaskin Museum > http://www.dunaskin.org.uk/ > <================================================> > > ============================== > Join the RootsWeb WorldConnect Project: > Linking the world, one GEDCOM at a time. > http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com > >

There seem to have been several Galloway families who were colliers in Old Monkland. Parents - William GALLOWAY and Margaret GILLESPIE Children - William, born 1801, Polmont Archibald, born 1803, Polmont Archibald, born 1805, Polmont James, born 1809, Muiravonside Jane/Jean, born 1811, Muiravonside Alexander, born 1813, Muiravonside Christian, born 1815, Muiravonside Peter, born 1818, Muiravonside The whole family seemed to have moved to Monklands about 1840, and they all started the next generation. RobynTaylor - Waiheke Island, NZ

The Muirkirk Parish Records of Ayr County of the early 1800's identified the place of residence of my ancestor as Coltburn. This ancestor was a miner and had lived at Glenbuck before going to Coltburn. I have not been able to locate this on a modern map and have not found any reference to it on the Internet. Has anyone else run across a reference to this village? Has anyone a map with Coltburn on it? I am curious as to exactly where it was and what mine was associated with this place. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Jo Teague

I recieved such a good response from my Draffan query (thanks to all who contributed) that I thought I'd take a flyer on another alleged mine, namely FASKINE. In Jan. 1815, John BROWN was born in Old Monkland Parish to parents Hugh BROWN and Margaret MUNGLE. Hugh's occupation was entered as "coalier, Faskine mines" I had difficulty reading the Faskine and mines, though John's brother, James was listed as being born at Faskine, Old Monkland. Any information on Faskine or Faskine mine or any of the above people would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance. Russell Brown ----- Original Message ----- From: "Thomas W. Brown" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2001 5:49 PM Subject: Re: [McPitz] Re: Draffan Gas Coal Pit > Russ, glad to read about your Draffan connections. I have checked with the > best printed source I have, "The Gazeteer of Scotland", by Rev. John Wilson, > reprint 1996, originally publ'd in 1882. There are two Draffans listed, one > in Fife, the other one described as "place in Lesmahagow parish, > Lanarkshire. It has a public school with about 112 scholars." I can tell > you that the "place" sure has dwindled in 119 years! The gazeteer lists > several "Southfields", but the one apparently of interest to you is > described as "village in Lesmahagow parish, Lanarkshire. Pop. 467." I > checked with my AA road atlas of GB, and could not find any "Southfield" in > the vacinity of Lesmahagow, though as I said in my earlier message, Draffan > *is* shown on the map, despite the fact to which I can testify, that it > consists of four buildings total. Amazingly, there *is* a small road sign > directing one to Draffan, which suggests to me that the village may have had > a few more structures not too long ago. As for Southfield, I believe there > are more gazeteers and/or maps available that could help pinpoint it. I > will do a little checking next time I am at our local LDS Family History > Center, which I expect will be on 5 April. If you haven't heard from me by > about 8 April, email me about it. I sometimes get distracted with other > matters. > Cheers, Tom Brown > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: THEDALE-BROWNS > To: Thomas W. Brown <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2001 12:52 AM > Subject: Re: [McPitz] Re: Draffan Gas Coal Pit > > > > Hi Tom, > > In the 1861 census, John BROWN and his family, including my great > > grandfather Alexander BROWN lived in district 1 house 70 Draffan Cottage, > > Lesmahagow parish. In 1865 John died in Southfield, Lesmahagow,where he > was > > still mining. For all I know, Southfield and Draffan may be the same > place. > > In 1854, John and his wife's (Frances JOHNSTON) sixth child, Frances was > > born in Lesmahagow parish and in 1856 their seventh and presumably last > > child, Alexander was born in Kirkmuirhill, Lesmahagow parish. Their older > > children were born in New and Old Monklands. John's widow, Frances died > in > > Southfield, Lesmahagow in 1881. John's father, Hugh BROWN, was also a > miner > > at Faskine (?) mine, probably in Old Monkland. More probably about my > > family than you wanted to know, but that's all I have on Draffan. I > wonder > > if Southfield is a house or farm? > > Russ in Vermont > > > > > ==== SCOTTISH-MINING Mailing List ==== > Visit the GENUKI Lanarkshire website > http://www.btinternet.com/~outreach/genuki/LKS/ > <================================================> > > ============================== > 9 Health Tips for Computer Genealogists > http://www.thirdage.com/features/tech/ouch/ > >

Hello list & Marion, Does your book reference any names & places. My ggrandfather along with his dad and 3 brothers left Fife to come to the US to work in the mines Southern Illinois early 1900 time frame. One stayed in Ill, 2 ended up in Colorado and 1 went back to Fife. Our family name is RUSSELL. Hoping you still have the book, Judi Ferguson Sawyer email [email protected] From: "Marion C. Musgrove" I got "Colliers Across the Sea' thru inter-library loan. Alas,it covers a later time period, and recruitment was for Illinois coal mines.

Southfield is the name of a farm just outside Lesmahagow (Lessmagou) I worked there about 30 years ago and lived in Southfield Cottages, a row of about 4 cottages (Might have originally been miner's rows) 3 of which had been converted to cattle shelters. Draffan Farm was about a mile away. Cheers Davy "Thomas W. Brown" wrote: > Russ, glad to read about your Draffan connections. I have checked with the > best printed source I have, "The Gazeteer of Scotland", by Rev. John Wilson, > reprint 1996, originally publ'd in 1882. There are two Draffans listed, one > in Fife, the other one described as "place in Lesmahagow parish, > Lanarkshire. It has a public school with about 112 scholars." I can tell > you that the "place" sure has dwindled in 119 years! The gazeteer lists > several "Southfields", but the one apparently of interest to you is > described as "village in Lesmahagow parish, Lanarkshire. Pop. 467." I > checked with my AA road atlas of GB, and could not find any "Southfield" in > the vacinity of Lesmahagow, though as I said in my earlier message, Draffan > *is* shown on the map, despite the fact to which I can testify, that it > consists of four buildings total. Amazingly, there *is* a small road sign > directing one to Draffan, which suggests to me that the village may have had > a few more structures not too long ago. As for Southfield, I believe there > are more gazeteers and/or maps available that could help pinpoint it. I > will do a little checking next time I am at our local LDS Family History > Center, which I expect will be on 5 April. If you haven't heard from me by > about 8 April, email me about it. I sometimes get distracted with other > matters. > Cheers, Tom Brown > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: THEDALE-BROWNS > To: Thomas W. Brown <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2001 12:52 AM > Subject: Re: [McPitz] Re: Draffan Gas Coal Pit > > > Hi Tom, > > In the 1861 census, John BROWN and his family, including my great > > grandfather Alexander BROWN lived in district 1 house 70 Draffan Cottage, > > Lesmahagow parish. In 1865 John died in Southfield, Lesmahagow,where he > was > > still mining. For all I know, Southfield and Draffan may be the same > place. > > In 1854, John and his wife's (Frances JOHNSTON) sixth child, Frances was > > born in Lesmahagow parish and in 1856 their seventh and presumably last > > child, Alexander was born in Kirkmuirhill, Lesmahagow parish. Their older > > children were born in New and Old Monklands. John's widow, Frances died > in > > Southfield, Lesmahagow in 1881. John's father, Hugh BROWN, was also a > miner > > at Faskine (?) mine, probably in Old Monkland. More probably about my > > family than you wanted to know, but that's all I have on Draffan. I > wonder > > if Southfield is a house or farm? > > Russ in Vermont > > > > ==== SCOTTISH-MINING Mailing List ==== > Visit the GENUKI Lanarkshire website > http://www.btinternet.com/~outreach/genuki/LKS/ > <================================================> > > ============================== > 9 Health Tips for Computer Genealogists > http://www.thirdage.com/features/tech/ouch/

Russ, glad to read about your Draffan connections. I have checked with the best printed source I have, "The Gazeteer of Scotland", by Rev. John Wilson, reprint 1996, originally publ'd in 1882. There are two Draffans listed, one in Fife, the other one described as "place in Lesmahagow parish, Lanarkshire. It has a public school with about 112 scholars." I can tell you that the "place" sure has dwindled in 119 years! The gazeteer lists several "Southfields", but the one apparently of interest to you is described as "village in Lesmahagow parish, Lanarkshire. Pop. 467." I checked with my AA road atlas of GB, and could not find any "Southfield" in the vacinity of Lesmahagow, though as I said in my earlier message, Draffan *is* shown on the map, despite the fact to which I can testify, that it consists of four buildings total. Amazingly, there *is* a small road sign directing one to Draffan, which suggests to me that the village may have had a few more structures not too long ago. As for Southfield, I believe there are more gazeteers and/or maps available that could help pinpoint it. I will do a little checking next time I am at our local LDS Family History Center, which I expect will be on 5 April. If you haven't heard from me by about 8 April, email me about it. I sometimes get distracted with other matters. Cheers, Tom Brown ----- Original Message ----- From: THEDALE-BROWNS To: Thomas W. Brown <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2001 12:52 AM Subject: Re: [McPitz] Re: Draffan Gas Coal Pit > Hi Tom, > In the 1861 census, John BROWN and his family, including my great > grandfather Alexander BROWN lived in district 1 house 70 Draffan Cottage, > Lesmahagow parish. In 1865 John died in Southfield, Lesmahagow,where he was > still mining. For all I know, Southfield and Draffan may be the same place. > In 1854, John and his wife's (Frances JOHNSTON) sixth child, Frances was > born in Lesmahagow parish and in 1856 their seventh and presumably last > child, Alexander was born in Kirkmuirhill, Lesmahagow parish. Their older > children were born in New and Old Monklands. John's widow, Frances died in > Southfield, Lesmahagow in 1881. John's father, Hugh BROWN, was also a miner > at Faskine (?) mine, probably in Old Monkland. More probably about my > family than you wanted to know, but that's all I have on Draffan. I wonder > if Southfield is a house or farm? > Russ in Vermont >