Dawn, I am researching the Callan name, too, but do not have John and Isaac in my database. The oldest Callans I have are Thomas and Janet (McQueen) Callan, who were farmers and died in Crawfordjohn, Dumfries, Scotland. Their son James moved to Muirkirk, Ayr, Scotland, where he raised a family and died in 1837. As James sons were miners, I think James might have moved to Muirkirk to work in the mines. Does any of this connect with what you are doing? Christina On Tue, 8 May 2001 09:13:54 -0700 [email protected] writes: > Hello! > > New to this list but have had success with other lists in the past > few > months. Am looking to your collective knowledge and hoping for a > miracle!!! > > Interests: > > Callen ancestors born: John 1783 Isaac 1785. > Were Methodists and iron miners. > Emigrated to Beaufort, South Wales circa 1810 in regard to mining. > > So, I am looking for counties/ areas that were mining hotspots with > Methodist fellowships in the 1780's. Any and all leads would be > much > appreciated as I am brand new to this territory. > > I am happy to provide any help for those needing access to records > in > Wales. > > Sincerely, > Dawn Perry-Taft > > > ==== SCOTTISH-MINING Mailing List ==== > Visit the Dunaskin Museum > http://www.dunaskin.org.uk/ > <================================================> > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry's Library - The best collection of family history > learning and how-to articles on the Internet. > http://www.ancestry.com/learn/library >

Hello! New to this list but have had success with other lists in the past few months. Am looking to your collective knowledge and hoping for a miracle!!! Interests: Callen ancestors born: John 1783 Isaac 1785. Were Methodists and iron miners. Emigrated to Beaufort, South Wales circa 1810 in regard to mining. So, I am looking for counties/ areas that were mining hotspots with Methodist fellowships in the 1780's. Any and all leads would be much appreciated as I am brand new to this territory. I am happy to provide any help for those needing access to records in Wales. Sincerely, Dawn Perry-Taft

Hello, I'm new to this list and researching Findlys and McKechans in the Stevenston / New Cumnock areas in Ayrshire. So far all the males in the family are listed as coal miners so I thought this list might be a good idea! William FINDLAY - b. 1882 - coal miner in New Cumnock and Haltwhistle (Northumberland) His father - William John FINDLAY - b. Ireland 1853 - coal miner in Stevenston. His father - Samuel Findlay - coal miner probably in Ireland and Stevenston. Alexander McKechan - b. 1830s Stevenston - may also have been coal miner. I'm not sure what information is available. Would there be records anywhere of the mines in the above mentioned areas that might list employees? Or has anyone on this list any such information? Many thanks Gail Jackson Northumberland

Hi List. I've finally updated the list of subscribers' research interests at the URL below. Apologies for the delay in this! If those of you who submitted names could check the details, & let me know if they need any correction or amendment? Cheers Jim <==============================<>=============================> Scottish-Mining Pages: http://www.mcpitz.com <===============================================================> <==============================<>================================>

Dear Linda, I might have one of those Kilmarnock lamps, inherited in my Pollock family. It is of brass with "A. Caldow" and "Kilmarnock" on one side, and the initials of A. P. crudely stamped on the other. I hadn't realized what the double spout was for--glad to see your message and description. I guess A. Caldow was the manufacturer? I thought at first it might be the mine, but have never seen the name as a mine or owner. My relatives mined in Lennoxtown and around Coatsbridge in Scotland, then came to Tioga Co., PA, USA in 1852. Margie Bridges in Calif.

Dear Fellow Listers; I recently read the following information concerning Safety Lamps used in Coal Mining, and after having some communication with a fellow researcher regarding Coal Mining in Kilmarnock I thought this would not only interest her, but possibly some on this List. The following pertains to the use of Safety Lamps in the Coalfields of Vancouver Island, and the extensive use of "The Kilmarnock Lamp". The method by which a miner lighted his work was an emotional issue, charged with the difference between life and death. Naked flame, whether from a candle, which was used in Britain until the end of the nineteenth century, or from a fish oil lamp, the light of choice on Vancouver Island, both which could cause an explosion in the presence of methane gas. Sir Humphrey Davy had addressed the problem of naked flame lamps in 1815 when he discovered the qualities of wire gauze. From that date it was possible to supply miners with a lamp that would not cause explosions, but no one was able to supply a lamp to give enough light to satisfy the working miner. The early shallow mines of the Nanaimo coalfield were said to have the "least possible trace of firedamp", so the Davy lamp was deemed unnecessary. It is likely that the first English miners to arrive were accustomed to candles, but the Scottish miners were used to oil lamps, and since the Scots were the first miners to arrive it is likely that their preference prevailed. The first lamps made by the blacksmith drew complaints from the miners because the spout was only half the height of the lamp, therefore wasting more oil than it burned allowing the fishy extract to run down the forehead of the miner. "The Kilmarnock Lamp" then came to the rescue. A tinsmith in Fort Victoria was instructed to copy a lamp sent down by Joseph MCKAY. This lamp very likely belonged to Ayrshire's Robert DUNSMUIR or Boyd GILMOUR and was a vast improvement over the homemade ones the miners had complained about. A hinged lid fitted down snuggly over a beveled rim well soldered into place, and a two-layered spout allowed excess oil to run back down into the lamp. This homely little pot, functional but ungainly was fitted onto the soft caps of thousands of Vancouver Island coalminers over the next sixty years. Very dangerous, but bright, the "Kilmarnock Lamp" was used until electric lights replaced them in 1917. On a personal note, I have searched for years to add one to my own collection, but there are few surviving Kilmarnock Lamps to be found. I have seen 3 in the mining museums here on the Island and one in a private collection. There is a list of approx. 3000 miners at http://www.rootsweb.com/~canbc/chinese.htm This is a database of miners signing a Petition against Chinese and Japanese workers in Coal Mines. From the Sessional Papers of the British Columbia Government. May be worth a look for those "lost: miners on your search. Footnote: Boyd GILMOUR returned to Scotland and lived his life out in Riccarton, dying there in 1860. With regards, Linda ........... Researching Ayrshire's PENNAL, LOGAN, LOVE, MCKEAN, REID, FREW, YUILL, KILPATRICK, & JAMPHRA

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Norman, If you visit Ian Winstanley's website at: http://www.cmhrc.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/ You might find your missing miner in his lists. Regards Jim Rouse <==============================<>=============================> Keep yer tongue a prisoner and yer body will gang free. Genealogy Hamepage: http://homepages.go.com/~seimi/genes.html Scottish-Mining Pages: http://www.mcpitz.com <===============================================================> <================================<>================================>

Robert ANDREW and his sons William and Hugh ( 8 Mavis Valley) and Robert his son (3 Mavis Valley) were all iron-miners according to the 1851 census. I'd love to know more about the family, the industry and the area. In particular, Robert Junior's wife remarried in 1857 so a mining accident between 1851 and 1857 looks a possibility. Are there any records of these? Thanks, Norman.

Faskine was one of several small villages in the parish of Old Monkland, that at the end of the 18th.century, with the opening of the Monkland Canal and the resulting increase in the demand for coal began to increase in population. People from all over Scotland, and to a lesser extent Ireland, migrated to the area to provide the workforce for this increase in coal production. In 1830 this increase in migration increased dramatically with the development of iron production. The final result was the creation of the town of Coatbridge from what had been at the beginning of the cenrury small villages with small scale coalming. Faskine lies within the boundaries of Coatbridge. Peter Paterson Surrey U.K.

Catherine The story of the coal and iron industry in New Cumnock is told in "The New Cumnock Coal-field" by J.L. Carvel (privately published, 1946). It says, inter alia, that in 1847 three men from the north of England obtained a lease of the Afton Minerals from W.A. Cunninghame of Logan, a grandson of Mrs Stewart of Stair, to whom the estate had passed. They founded the Afton Iron Works on the banks of the Connel Burn. "There was a plentiful supply of coal at Straid, which was brought down the glen by a tram-road constructed by the Company"....."Experienced iron workers were taken north from Shotley Bridge and Consett, in County Durham, to manage and staff the undertaking. These men were followed by influxes on a larger scale, and for the incoming workers, drawn from many parts of the country, houses had to be provided". There may be some clues here. May be worth investigating the 1851 and 1861 census for the area. Best wishes Russell Wear

There is a village called Faskine about a mile south of Airdrie. There were certainly plenty of coal mines in the Airdrie area. Russell Wear

Hello Scottish mining, Can anyone give me any information re the place in the subject line? I think that there were once coal mines there? Thank you Annie Stuart. [email protected]

Hello Annie, I may not know any more than you about Faskine, but I definitely share your interest in it. On my GGGrandfather's (John Brown) birth record Jan. 8, 1815 in Old Monkland Parish his father, Hugh BROWN was listed as a coalier, Faskine mines. Hugh's son James was born at Faskine, Old Monkland, as well. Someone on the Lanark List wrote to me that Faskine was the name of a very old very large house somewhere in Lanarkshire but did not know where. If you find out anything more, please fill me in. Russell Brown ----- Original Message ----- From: "Annie, Bill and Liam Stuart" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2001 11:46 PM Subject: [McPitz] Re Fasken/Faskine help please > Hello Scottish mining, > Can anyone give me any information re the place in the subject line? > I think that there were once coal mines there? > Thank you > Annie Stuart. > [email protected] > > > ==== SCOTTISH-MINING Mailing List ==== > Visit the Dunaskin Museum > http://www.dunaskin.org.uk/ > <================================================> > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 > Source for Family History Online. Go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB > >

Does anyone have any information or know of any sources, for the coal mine at New Cumnock early 1800's? The 1792 statistical account of the area says that the coal is not worked for lack of a navigable river. At about this time the Earl of Menteith bought an estate there and developed a railway to transport the coal (horse drawn wagons). The mine seems to have been at its peak in the early 1800's. By the 1841 census the census taker comments on the decline in the number of people employed there. I am particularly interested in knowing if the Earl brought in his own workers to work the mine. My ancestors David Menteith was a coal miner in New Cumnock. The name doesn't seem to appear in the parish records before 1890. I'm not expecting to find that we are of noble blood :) rather that some of the men brought in might have acquired the name as "men of Menteith" Catherine Fitchett Christchurch, NZ [email protected]

Hello Jen The history of the fireclay works at Glenboig is told in "The Scottish Refractory Industry 1830-1980" by K.W. Sanderson (privately published, 1990) ISBN 0 9515625 0 9. This draws much of its material from a thesis by J. Harold (Glenboig Union Fireclay Co. Ltd, 1882-1921) for the University of Strathclyde 1972. The Glenboig works seems to have originated about 1836, eventually being controlled by Thompson, McClean & Co. The prime mover in the foundation of the Star Works was James Dunnachie (1835-1921), who had previously been employed by Thompson, McLean & Co. When one of the partners died in 1865, together with two partners he formed the Glenboig Fireclay Co. to take over the works. In 1872 the partnership broke up, and Dunnachie set up the Star Works as Dunnachie & Co., with two new partners. However, the original partners came together again in 1882 to form the Glenboig Union Fireclay Co Ltd, in which Dunnachie became the leading light. There is an engraving of the Star Works in the book. The Company became part of General Refractories Ltd. in 1936. There is also a very interesting booklet "Garnkirk Fire-Clay" by G. Quail (Strathkelvin Libraries, 1985) ISBN 0 904966 15 1 although it does not deal with the Star Works. It would seem, therefore, that the Star Works dates from about 1872, although fireclay working in Glenboig dates from about 1836. I hope this is of some help. Russell Wear

Would anyone on the list have information relating to the fireclay brickworks at Glenboig or to people who worked there? I am an archaeologist currently working on the site of an historical inn, c.1830, near Yass, New South Wales, Australia. In recent excavations we have uncovered two fireclay bricks. One bears the words: "STAR WORKS GLENBOIG" and the other just the word "GLENBOIG". Would you, or would you know of someone, who may know the history of the Glenboig brickworks. In particular, if anyone knows of the association with the name "STAR WORKS" and when that company began operating at Glenboig? As I understand it was prior to the formation of the Glenboig Union Fireclay Company, which may have been around 1860. In an extracts taken from "Old Coatbridge Villages" by Oliver Van Helden it notes that: "Abundant fireclay deposits around Glenboig and Garnkirk led to the development of a thriving refractory industry during the 19th century. Although decorative products were also made from fireclay, its foremost use was in the manufacture of hear-resistant bricks for lining furnaces and hot blast stoves. The top quality clay that was mined in and around Glenboig ensured that the village rapidly developed as a centre for brick-making. By the beginning of this century [20th] the world famous Glenboig Union Fireclay Company [comprising the "Old" Works and Star Works] was producing an astonishing 250,000 bricks a day." Any assistance would be very much appreciated. My husband's family are MacLellans from Inverness who came to Australia in 1853. Kindest regards, Jen ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Jennifer Lambert Tracey HERITAGE ARCHAEOLOGY Archaeological & Heritage Assessment Consultants PO Box 4265 KINGSTON ACT 2604 AUSTRALIA Tel / Fax: (02) 6295 6795 Mobile Tel: 0419 011 860 http://www.heritagearchaeology.com.au ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

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