- Can you help me? I am really mixed up with the following - the dates don't match, like perhaps I am missing a generation or perhaps a child was born when the parents were OLD - but that seems not to be the case, cuz I am having problems with more than one name - It is hard to try to tell you - wish I could show you their pedigree charts - I will do my best - Here they are: ROSE FAMILY- 1. Robert 1) ROSE b. 1594 Elwood or Rye Suffolk, England d. 4 Apr 1665 Branford, New Haven, Connecticut md. ............. Ipswich, Suffolk, England TO: Margery EVERED b. 1594 Elmswell, Suffolk, England d. bef 1664 Branford, New Haven, Connecticut children - all born Ipswich, Suffolk, England 2. i. John Rose [twin] [my line] b. 1619 ii. Robert Rose [twin] b. 1619 d. 1683 Branford, New Haven, CT iii. Elizabeth Rose b. 1621 d. 22 July 1659 Branford, New Haven, CT iv. Mary Rose b. 1623 md 1676 Moses JOHNSON v. Samuel Rose b. 1625 vi. Sarah Rose b. 1627 vii. Daniel Rose b. 1631 d ..... Wethersfield, Hartford, CT md. 1664 Wethersfield, Hartford, CT TO: Elizabeth 2) GOODRICH d/o John & Elizabeth [Edwards] Goodrich They were parents of 8 children - a. Elizabeth Rose 15 Apr 1665 b. Daniel Rose jr 20 Aug 1667 c. Mary Rose 11 Feb 1669 d. Jonathan Rose 20 Sep 1679 e. Sarah Rose 2 Nov 1681 f. Abigail Rose 14 Sep 1683 g. Dorothy Rose 3 May 1687 h. Lydia Rose 2 Apr 1689 viii. Dorcas Rose b. 1632 2. John 2) ROSE [twin] b. 1619 Ipswich, Suffolk, England d. 17 Apr 1697 Southampton, Suffolk, Long Island, New York md ......... Southampton, Suffolk, Long Island, New York TO: Abigail 2) RAYNOR b. 1646 Southampton, Suffolk, Long Island, New York d. have same death as her husband???? Having 23 years between John 2) ROSE and his wife Abigail 2) RAYNOR is kinda odd for 1st marriage- isn't it? Their Children were: I have no dates for their children - i. John Rose ii William Rose 3. iii. Martyn Rose [my line] iv. David Rose v. Thomas Rose vi. James Rose vii. Hannah Rose 3. Martyn 3) ROSE b. ......... Southampton, Suffolk, Long Island, New York d. 1729 Southampton, Suffolk, Long Island, New York md ............ TO: Sarah 4) HOWELL d/o Richard 3) HOWELL and Sarah 3) SCOTT b. .<1699>....... Southampton, Suffolk, Long Island, New York d. [will probated] 1735 Southampton, Suffolk, Long Island, New York see what I mean about the dates?? No way can Sarah 4) Howell be born 1699 and married 1700 Children all born Southampton, Suffolk, Long Island, New York 4. i. Sarah Rose [my line] born 1699 ii. Zaccheus Rose born 1700 iii. Christopher Rose iv. John Rose v. Abraham Rose vi. Sybil Rose vii. Stephen Rose b. 1710 viii. Elizabeth Rose b. 1716 4. Sarah 4) ROSE b. ......... Southampton, Suffolk, Long Island, New York d. 21 Dec 1721 Southampton, Suffolk, Long Island, New York md 1701 Southampton, Suffolk, Long Island, New York TO: deacon James 3) HAINES later changed to HAYNES b. 1673 Southampton, Suffolk, Long Island, New York d. 13 Oct 1732 Bridgehampton, Suffolk, Long Island, New York md2) Jan 1722 Southampton, Suffolk, Long Island, New York TO: Temperance Ludham [know nothing more] Children - all born Southampton, Suffolk, Long Island, New York i. James Haines 1702 [my line] ii. Stephen Haines 1704 md unknown moved to Elizabethtown, Union, New Jersey and started the Haines lines in New Jersey iii. Daniel Haines 1706 iv. Ann Haines v. Sarah Haines vi. Phebe Haines 1705/1712 d May 1783 Scotch Plains, Essex, now Union New Jersey md 1725 Hempstead, Long Island, New York TO: Richard Valentine vii. Edith Haines -- I just know that one of you will have something about these families and will be able to help me.. HOWELL LINE .Edward 1) HOWELL 1584-1655/5 +Frances -1) PAXTON bur 2 July 1630 + Eleanor ......... I come thru two of Edward 1) and Frances [Paxton] Howell's sons Richard and Edward I am going to follow Richard - cuz he leads to Sarah 4) HOWELL [above] ..Richard 2) HOWELL 1629-1698 +Elizabeth HALSEY 1632-1698+ d/o Thomas and Elizabeth [Wheeler] Halsey + Eleanor Raynor d/o Joseph and Mary Raynor [no issue that I know of] ...Richard 3) HOWELL 1659-1740 [19 at marriage] +Sarah SCOTT <1660> if 18 at marriage in 1678 d/o Jaciomiah & Mary [JACKSON] SCOTT ....Sarah 4) HOWELL married 1699 died 1729 [see above] +Martyn 3) ROSE died 1729 [see above] Now about the SCOTT FAMILY Capt John -1) SCOTT b. 1632 ,county Kent, England d. 1696+ ,,England md 2 May 1660 Southampton, Suffolk, Long Island, NY TO: Deborah 2) RAYNOR d/o Thurston 1) RAYNOR and Martha 2) WOOD b. c 1646 Wethersfield, Hartford, Connecticut d. aft 21 Dec 1691 Southampton, Suffolk, Long Isl.NY md2) aft 1663 Charles STURMY NOTE: Deborah's husband John SCOTT deserted her and their only son, Jackiomiah..she md2) Charles STURMY of Southampton, Suffolk, Long Island, New York. Children: 2. i. Jackiomiah 2) SCOTT b 1663 2. Jackiomiah 2) SCOTT [John 1] b. 1663 Southampton, Suffolk, Long Island, NY d. 9 Mar 1739 Southampton, Suffolk, Long Isl. NY md c 1688 Hampstead, Long Island, New York TO: Mary 4) JACKSON [twin of Martha] children of Capt. John 3) JACKSON and Elizabeth 2) SEAMANS b. 1678 Hempstead, Queens, Long Island, New York d. bef 26 Aug 1724 Southampton, Suffolk, LI, NY As you can see IF these dates were correct, Jackiomiah was 25 when he married a 10 year old Mary JACKSON --- SOMETHING IS SO WRONG HERE- I will stop here - I am getting confused (((smile))) Thank you very much for your help - Wilma Fleming Haynes wilmahaynes@direcway.com