Hi Christine, Many thanks for your efforts!! I am aware of the 1851 report and the lack of passenger lists prior to 1865. I found the 1851 report fascinating. From it I got several things: These clearance ships were required to stop at Grosse Ile. Not all ships were required to stop there. The question I have did the Grosse Ile officials document everyone who came through or only the ones who were sick or died there? So far all that I have been able to find is docs on who were sick and dies and writings regarding the worst year, 1847. Does anyone know if there is docs or microfilm anywhere that would list all immigrants seen at Grosse Ile? The immigrants were destitute, lacking even cloths. Col Gordon's representative came on board and determine that they had cloths enough. The government was forced to pay for food and transportation west to Hamilton so the immigrants could reach friends, family and or job opportunities that were located in Upper Canada. This is consistent with my gggrandfather Ranald Wilson. He is listed in the 1851 census of Benbecula with an interesting note at the bottom of the census sheet stating that a number of residents were planning to emigrate to Canada in August. This says to me that at least some of the immigrants volunteered and were not trudged, bound and thrown on a ship. I feel this might be the case with Ranald as he had older brothers who had previously emigrated to Prince Edwards Island (with descendents living there today). I first find him in Canada located at Brantford, Brant Co getting married to his second wife. Brant Co, is the first county west of Hamilton. In 1871 he is listed as a "farm laborer". In 1881 he is listed as a "farmer" . 1881 would have given him 20 years to arrive penniless to owning his own farm. One of my thoughts is the Government, in hope of defraying costs, would have published the passenger lists in the Quebec, Toronto and Hamilton papers with the idea of letting family members know their relatives where there so that they could collect them. Does anyone know of and have access to microfilm of papers of these locations and vintages that might be able to check? Again, all the help from everyone is greatly appreciated! Steven Lyday >Hi Steven, > >Check this out, it may be of some use not sure. >Christine > > >http://ist.uwaterloo.ca/~marj/genealogy/reports/report1851.html > > >I have been looking around to see if I can find what you wanted, I don't >know if anyone can...... unless ships passengers lists were in the hands of >private individuals....that does happen from time to time and people do post >them. I found this blurb that is proof of that, but one never knows they >could be somewhere, other passenger lists have turned up.......so good luck. > >Christine >* >Since no passenger lists were archived pre-1865 for Quebec, lists of vessels have been extracted from the Immigration Reports of the British Government >but, please note, this does not include all of the vessels which entered >these ports. Reports have been found for the ports of Quebec and St. John, >New Brunswick (sometimes a few other ports in NB are included). Although >Nova Scotia, Prince Edward Island, Newfoundland and British Columbia are >sometimes mentioned, rarely are any vessels named. >* >