Hi List Thank you for your discussions on the the Highland Clearances. I have a much better understanding of the times in Scotland. My Grandfather McDonald's family left Scotland and came to Canada but I am not sure of the year. My Great Grandpa was born in Canada and my Grandpa was born in Wisconsin. Very little was said about Scotland or why they left. They all seamed to love Scotland very much and were so proud to be Scotch. I had heard of the Jacob Uprising, the McDonald Massacre and Flora McDonald. They said they were direct lines back to the McDonald's at Mor. But the timing did not match up. The Highland Clearances sounds more like the timing I should be looking at. JOHN J. MCDONALD was born 1817 in Scotland. He married MARGARET CAMPBELL 1842. MARGARET CAMPBELL was born 1819 in Scotland. John J. McDonald, b. Canada 1/13/1842 Roderick J ³Rory² McDonald b. Eau Claire Wisconsin b. 04/01/1877 Again thank you for discussing the Clearances. Kit -- Kit Niemann - [email protected] Sir Names: Murphy / Roundtree - Pearl / Leonard McDonald / McCann - Wenzel Niemann - Allen / Kimball