Hi JoAnn, I am afraid that Christine is being too gentle. The shortest answer is the "ethnic cleansing" of the Highland Scotts by their own cousins. I am finding many sites on the clearances. If you are interested I would start at: http://www.theclearances.org The short simple story is: -The clearances started abt 1745 and have run until present. -The Highlands were run by clans. -The land was "owned by the clan", but individuals would pay a small rent to the clan chief based on the size of land that they were using. -Some of these chiefs moved to Edinburgh or London with their income coming from these rents. -With in a generation of so, many of their Descendents would have never even seen the land that they derived their income much less speak the language of their cousins (Gaelic). -Living in town started to cost a lot of money. -To meet these expenses they raised the rents. -The problem was these lands were poor. -In the case of the Western Isles most income came from cattle and harvesting of kelp. -After the war with Nepolian (sp) the price of cattle drop. -abt 1820 the bottom fell out of the kelp market -The absentee landlords figured out that they could double the rent if they rented for sheep (four legged clansman) -To do this they had to get rid of their cousins who had lived there for hundreds if not thousands of years. -They turned much of Scotland into a green desert. -Granted that there were some landlords who did this better than others. -Benbecula and S. Uist were owned by a Col Gordon, he was one of the worst . -In many cases it was handled with fire and clubs. -If you burned the roof timbers the house was not longer able to provide shelter. If you are interested further I suggest poking around the net. I have found many sites. Most have links to others. Regards, Steven Lyday > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: > > Re: [SCTCDN] Scottish Clearence Ships > From: > > "christine" <[email protected]> > Date: > > Mon, 13 May 2002 07:26:02 -0400 > To: > > [email protected] > > >Hi JoAnn, > >Steve is looking for passenger lists that came to Quebec in 1851, part of a >clear out of the area of South Uist in Scotland, the people were either very >poor or wouldn't swear allegiance to... or produce for the "landlord" of the >day, so the landlord had agents that cleared the folks out, no questions >asked, to acquire the land for the use of the "landlord", for his purpose >mainly grazing sheep, many times there homes were burned out as well, that >is basically what the Clearance is. These folks were given the promise of >land, a new way of life in the new country, a lot of times they were coming >to uncleared, unproven land and conditions were very hard/different in >comparison to what they were used to. Not really ideal conditions. Hence it >became called "Clearance". > "Clearance Ships" became a name tagged onto the ships that brought the >folks that were "cleared out" to new destinations....new lands......far >different than the people were used to.......Ships passenger lists of any >era can be a good way to find out if and when your ancestors came to a >given area. >These ships that came in to Quebec in 1851 there is no track of passenger >lists anywhere, and I assume Steve is trying to track down some ancestors >that came from that area at that time. >Hopefully this helps a bit. > >Cheers >Christine > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: <[email protected]> >To: <[email protected]> >Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2002 11:20 PM >Subject: Re: [SCTCDN] Scottish Clearence Ships > > >>Guess I missed something. What exactly was the purpose of Scottish >>Clearance Ships? JoAnn >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: "christine" <[email protected]> >>To: <[email protected]> >>Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2002 7:18 PM >>Subject: Re: [SCTCDN] Scottish Clearence Ships >> >>

Hi Steve, Thanks, been called many things in my day but don't think I have ever been called gentle.......; ) Cheers Christine ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steven Lyday" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, May 13, 2002 1:43 PM Subject: [SCTCDN] Re: Scottish Clearance Ships > Hi JoAnn, > > I am afraid that Christine is being too gentle. The shortest answer is > the "ethnic cleansing" of the Highland Scotts by their own cousins. > I am finding many sites on the clearances. > > If you are interested I would start at: > > http://www.theclearances.org > > The short simple story is: > > -The clearances started abt 1745 and have run until present. > -The Highlands were run by clans. > -The land was "owned by the clan", but individuals would pay a small > rent to the clan chief based on the size of land that they were using. > -Some of these chiefs moved to Edinburgh or London with their income > coming from these rents. > -With in a generation of so, many of their Descendents would have never > even seen the land that they derived their income much less speak the > language of their cousins (Gaelic). > -Living in town started to cost a lot of money. > -To meet these expenses they raised the rents. > -The problem was these lands were poor. > -In the case of the Western Isles most income came from cattle and > harvesting of kelp. > -After the war with Nepolian (sp) the price of cattle drop. > -abt 1820 the bottom fell out of the kelp market > -The absentee landlords figured out that they could double the rent if > they rented for sheep (four legged clansman) > -To do this they had to get rid of their cousins who had lived there for > hundreds if not thousands of years. > -They turned much of Scotland into a green desert. > -Granted that there were some landlords who did this better than others. > -Benbecula and S. Uist were owned by a Col Gordon, he was one of the worst . > -In many cases it was handled with fire and clubs. > -If you burned the roof timbers the house was not longer able to provide > shelter. > > If you are interested further I suggest poking around the net. I have > found many sites. Most have links to others. > > Regards, > > Steven Lyday > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > Subject: > > > > Re: [SCTCDN] Scottish Clearence Ships > > From: > > > > "christine" <[email protected]> > > Date: > > > > Mon, 13 May 2002 07:26:02 -0400 > > To: > > > > [email protected] > > > > > >Hi JoAnn, > > > >Steve is looking for passenger lists that came to Quebec in 1851, part of a > >clear out of the area of South Uist in Scotland, the people were either very > >poor or wouldn't swear allegiance to... or produce for the "landlord" of the > >day, so the landlord had agents that cleared the folks out, no questions > >asked, to acquire the land for the use of the "landlord", for his purpose > >mainly grazing sheep, many times there homes were burned out as well, that > >is basically what the Clearance is. These folks were given the promise of > >land, a new way of life in the new country, a lot of times they were coming > >to uncleared, unproven land and conditions were very hard/different in > >comparison to what they were used to. Not really ideal conditions. Hence it > >became called "Clearance". > > "Clearance Ships" became a name tagged onto the ships that brought the > >folks that were "cleared out" to new destinations....new lands......far > >different than the people were used to.......Ships passenger lists of any > >era can be a good way to find out if and when your ancestors came to a > >given area. > >These ships that came in to Quebec in 1851 there is no track of passenger > >lists anywhere, and I assume Steve is trying to track down some ancestors > >that came from that area at that time. > >Hopefully this helps a bit. > > > >Cheers > >Christine > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: <[email protected]> > >To: <[email protected]> > >Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2002 11:20 PM > >Subject: Re: [SCTCDN] Scottish Clearence Ships > > > > > >>Guess I missed something. What exactly was the purpose of Scottish > >>Clearance Ships? JoAnn > >>----- Original Message ----- > >>From: "christine" <[email protected]> > >>To: <[email protected]> > >>Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2002 7:18 PM > >>Subject: Re: [SCTCDN] Scottish Clearence Ships > >> > >> > > > > > ==== SCOTS-IN-CANADA Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe: [email protected] inserting the word unsubscribe in both the subject line and the text area and using a fresh email to do it. Use -D- if you are in Digest mode. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Hi again Steve, The bit about the Clearances made me think that I have a lot about the Clearances bookmark and filed, it made me go take a look, I found this that might be of interest to you, or even may provide a contact for you. Cheers Christine http://globalgazette.net/gazbl/gazbl135htm ps. if this URL doesn't work try typing it in.... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steven Lyday" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, May 13, 2002 1:43 PM Subject: [SCTCDN] Re: Scottish Clearance Ships > >> > >> > > > > > ==== SCOTS-IN-CANADA Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe: [email protected] inserting the word unsubscribe in both the subject line and the text area and using a fresh email to do it. Use -D- if you are in Digest mode. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >