You are so right Gordon... people are never satisfied.... I absolutely enjoy the census and having no problems... and I agree you need to have something to start a research ,and I have found more than I expected up to now.. Justmy2centsworth.... --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.368 / Virus Database: 204 - Release Date: 5/29/02