Hilda: Of course we have. What we haven't dealt with very much is the total craziness of our federal genealogy "experts." Read the notes that are coming in from those who have tried. NOTHING works at the site. Dennis Bell in British Columbia hilda wrote: > Haven't any of you dealt with original census records before? When you > borrow a microfilm of a census, you have to know what area of the country to > look at, and there is no index.

I have absolutely no problem with mrsid or the site, once I accessed it from the archives main site. Just luck I guess. Bob I seek dead people! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Janet" <j.parker@telus.net> To: <SCOTS-IN-CANADA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 5:44 PM Subject: Re: [SCTCDN] 1901 Census > I have been able to access the site many times but unable to get the viewer "mrsid" to work. First had difficulty downloading a non-corrupt copy and now can't get it to open in Netscape after following > the read-me instructions. Has anyone had success with getting it to work? > Janet > > > > ==== SCOTS-IN-CANADA Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe: SCOTS-IN-CANADA-L-request@rootsweb.com inserting the word unsubscribe in both the subject line and the text area and using a fresh email to do it. Use -D- if you are in Digest mode. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Well, Dennis didn't you know the only people who want to contact the folks at National Archives are Aliens from Outer Space, National Archives will never listen to genealogists or researchers so who better than their own kind!!! Christine Joudrey Guelph, Ontario ----- Original Message ----- > Hi Shari: > > You're right. The good old Canadian government has, in its usual inimitable fashion, spent a few hundred thousand of our tax dollars setting up a 1901 census website that is absolutely useless. In > order to find somebody, you must already know about 99.999 per cent of the census data you seek. Catch 22, magnified by the site's apparent inability to cope with any kind of modern computer , PCs or > Macs. You cannot run a simple surname search, the common denominator of just about every other genealogy site in the world. So why in the heck are the pencilnecks at the National Archives so worried > about their new site being swamped by excited, happy customers is utterly beyond me. Unless they think aliens from Outrer Space are trying to contact them. > > dennis bell in british columbia > >

Hi everyone, I have been accessing the 1901 census pretty much 12 hours a day for the last two days dragging through Brant Co twp by twp pretty much without problem due to the lack of index. I prefer to look at things the glass is half full instead of half empty. The US just released the 1930 census in April without index nor is it online. I tell you it is a lot easier sitting down in front of my computer in my underwear :-) than have to go over to NARA or order each tape and wait three weeks at the local FHC (Neither of those are indexed either). To get to the US census online you have to pay Ancestry for access. It is Ancestry and or volunteers that are indexing it. What is scary is they keep saying that they are about done indexing. When ever I check my surname, LYDAY, they say there was only one in the entire US. I bet that would concern grandma :-). I say good on the Canadian gov. If they can just get over this freeze of post 1901 census thing, they will be cruising in my book. One tip that I found is that this site does NOT seem to work well with Netscape (my default browser). I simply clicked on MS Explorer (I did not even reload the plugin) and everything came right up. After fooling with it a while I was able to come up with a pretty efficient system for loading and reviewing the pages. Best of luck everyone, Steven Lyday San Juan Capistrano, Calif

I downloaded mrsid, but it says it can't find a file it needs, and so, it doesn't work. Maybe later! Marilyn Hoyte ----- Original Message ----- From: "Janet" <j.parker@telus.net> To: <SCOTS-IN-CANADA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 3:44 PM Subject: Re: [SCTCDN] 1901 Census > I have been able to access the site many times but unable to get the viewer "mrsid" to work. First had difficulty downloading a non-corrupt copy and now can't get it to open in Netscape after following > the read-me instructions. Has anyone had success with getting it to work? > Janet >

Hello List, Is it just me or is it IMPOSSIBLE to get on the Census site? Every time I try, it's Action Cancelled or Page Not Found. Regards, Shari

I have been able to access the site many times but unable to get the viewer "mrsid" to work. First had difficulty downloading a non-corrupt copy and now can't get it to open in Netscape after following the read-me instructions. Has anyone had success with getting it to work? Janet

I found the right link but didn't take the time to let the necessary files download. The correct url is: http://www.archives.ca/02/020122_e.html Laurie McRae Nelson

Hi Shari: You're right. The good old Canadian government has, in its usual inimitable fashion, spent a few hundred thousand of our tax dollars setting up a 1901 census website that is absolutely useless. In order to find somebody, you must already know about 99.999 per cent of the census data you seek. Catch 22, magnified by the site's apparent inability to cope with any kind of modern computer , PCs or Macs. You cannot run a simple surname search, the common denominator of just about every other genealogy site in the world. So why in the heck are the pencilnecks at the National Archives so worried about their new site being swamped by excited, happy customers is utterly beyond me. Unless they think aliens from Outrer Space are trying to contact them. dennis bell in british columbia Caddygrl92@aol.com wrote: > Hello List, Is it just me or is it IMPOSSIBLE to get on the Census site? > Every time I try, it's Action Cancelled or Page Not Found. Regards, Shari > > ==== SCOTS-IN-CANADA Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe: SCOTS-IN-CANADA-L-request@rootsweb.com inserting the word unsubscribe in both the subject line and the text area and using a fresh email to do it. Use -D- if you are in Digest mode. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Dennis I get error, "the page can not be found" ???????? Edd Sinnett ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dennis Bell" <dnbell@shaw.ca> To: <SCOTS-IN-CANADA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 11:57 PM Subject: [SCTCDN] 1901 census > > > Hi folks: > > The following news story moved this afternoon across Canada via The Canadian Press newswire: > > > OTTAWA (CP) - It's a tale to make a publicist weep. > Fearing it may have a smash hit on its hands that could bring down its > Internet server, the National Archives of Canada purposely buried the online > launch of the country's 1901 census data. > The material has been available on the Web for more than a week, but the > agency made a conscious decision not to publicize that fact. > "We've launched it softly in terms of not wanting to draw a lot of traffic > right off so that it brings our server down," said Paul Marsden, Webmaster > at the National Archives. > If it sounds like Marsden is blowing smoke, he's not. > He's trying to avoid the fate of Britain's Public Record Office, which held a > much publicized Web launch of its 1901 census data on Jan. 2. > The site - two years in development - was designed to handle about 1.2 > million hits day. It received that number every hour. The site crashed under > the weight of 30 million hits on its first day and still isn't up and > running five months later. > The Canadian site, available for those willing to do a little digging > (www.archives.ca/02/0201-e.html), received hits from 320 servers on May 21, > its first day of operation. > It's up to about 3,500 a day a little more than week later - and that's only > a measure of servers, some of which may be routing hundreds of individual > subscribers to the site. > Never underestimate the tenacity and numbers of genealogists. > "Working in the archives, you see that increasingly people are wanting to > find their roots," said spokeswoman Michael Crawley. "There's just a huge > surge in that." > An official with the British Public Record Office has said the reprise of > that site won't come with the same fanfare as its debut. > "We will certainly be keeping a lower profile this time," a spokeswoman told > the online journal IT Week. > The National Archives have a much less ambitious and less costly plan than > the British. > The Brits paid a private company to index all the census data so that > searchers could simply plug in a name and see what records turned up. People > then had to pay to get actual copies of those records. > "We've put the census online basically as it was produced by the Dominion > statistician at the time," explained Marsden. "We're hoping that by putting > it up (on the Web), people who are really willing to do the legwork will do > the indexing for us." > Genealogy groups have been doing the labourious 1901 indexing using microfilm > for the past three years > "This really blows that away in terms of accessibility," said Marsden. > "They're going to have to work it, but it's free. For local history, you > just can't get better than this." > Ken Bird, president of the Ontario Genealogical Society, said the word is > leaking out about the online census data. > "It's a bit complex and you probably have to have a pencil and paper with you > to go through the different steps of getting to the information," he said. > Nonetheless, said Bird, "demand will be quite heavy." > "I see it as very positive for genealogists, especially for those who aren't > near Ottawa and can't get in to the National Archives themselves." > The site is not without its foibles. Some people, Bird included, are having > difficulty downloading the software needed to call up and scan the actual > census documents. > The program allows Web surfers to zoom in on documents, photos or maps > without losing resolution. It could be a boon to making a host of archived > material more accessible. > "But you go with something new on the Internet and you're into territory > incognito - unknown ground," said Marsden. > He hopes all the bugs will be worked out by October, when the site hopes to > add more search features. > In the meantime, genealogists are spreading the word. > "I can appreciate they're not telling everyone because of what happened with > the British," said Lois Martin, president of the Abbotsford, B.C., > Genealogical Society. > "It's probably a good way to test it to make sure it works. But I would hope > they wouldn't keep it from us too long. Many of us have been patiently > waiting for this kind of thing." > > ---------- > > I had a go at it tonight, and discovered that in order to find somebody in the census, you've already got to know juszt about everything that is in there about him or her. Typical government planning. > > Dennis Bell in Burnaby > > > > > ==== SCOTS-IN-CANADA Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe: SCOTS-IN-CANADA-L-request@rootsweb.com inserting the word unsubscribe in both the subject line and the text area and using a fresh email to do it. Use -D- if you are in Digest mode. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Hi Dennis, You're one up on me. I couldn't even figure out how to use the darn thing. What an atrocity!! Cheers! Malcolm ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dennis Bell" <dnbell@shaw.ca> To: <SCOTS-IN-CANADA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 11:57 PM Subject: [SCTCDN] 1901 census > > > Hi folks: > > The following news story moved this afternoon across Canada via The Canadian Press newswire: > > > OTTAWA (CP) - It's a tale to make a publicist weep. > Fearing it may have a smash hit on its hands that could bring down its > Internet server, the National Archives of Canada purposely buried the online > launch of the country's 1901 census data. > The material has been available on the Web for more than a week, but the > agency made a conscious decision not to publicize that fact. > "We've launched it softly in terms of not wanting to draw a lot of traffic > right off so that it brings our server down," said Paul Marsden, Webmaster > at the National Archives. > If it sounds like Marsden is blowing smoke, he's not. > He's trying to avoid the fate of Britain's Public Record Office, which held a > much publicized Web launch of its 1901 census data on Jan. 2. > The site - two years in development - was designed to handle about 1.2 > million hits day. It received that number every hour. The site crashed under > the weight of 30 million hits on its first day and still isn't up and > running five months later. > The Canadian site, available for those willing to do a little digging > (www.archives.ca/02/0201-e.html), received hits from 320 servers on May 21, > its first day of operation. > It's up to about 3,500 a day a little more than week later - and that's only > a measure of servers, some of which may be routing hundreds of individual > subscribers to the site. > Never underestimate the tenacity and numbers of genealogists. > "Working in the archives, you see that increasingly people are wanting to > find their roots," said spokeswoman Michael Crawley. "There's just a huge > surge in that." > An official with the British Public Record Office has said the reprise of > that site won't come with the same fanfare as its debut. > "We will certainly be keeping a lower profile this time," a spokeswoman told > the online journal IT Week. > The National Archives have a much less ambitious and less costly plan than > the British. > The Brits paid a private company to index all the census data so that > searchers could simply plug in a name and see what records turned up. People > then had to pay to get actual copies of those records. > "We've put the census online basically as it was produced by the Dominion > statistician at the time," explained Marsden. "We're hoping that by putting > it up (on the Web), people who are really willing to do the legwork will do > the indexing for us." > Genealogy groups have been doing the labourious 1901 indexing using microfilm > for the past three years > "This really blows that away in terms of accessibility," said Marsden. > "They're going to have to work it, but it's free. For local history, you > just can't get better than this." > Ken Bird, president of the Ontario Genealogical Society, said the word is > leaking out about the online census data. > "It's a bit complex and you probably have to have a pencil and paper with you > to go through the different steps of getting to the information," he said. > Nonetheless, said Bird, "demand will be quite heavy." > "I see it as very positive for genealogists, especially for those who aren't > near Ottawa and can't get in to the National Archives themselves." > The site is not without its foibles. Some people, Bird included, are having > difficulty downloading the software needed to call up and scan the actual > census documents. > The program allows Web surfers to zoom in on documents, photos or maps > without losing resolution. It could be a boon to making a host of archived > material more accessible. > "But you go with something new on the Internet and you're into territory > incognito - unknown ground," said Marsden. > He hopes all the bugs will be worked out by October, when the site hopes to > add more search features. > In the meantime, genealogists are spreading the word. > "I can appreciate they're not telling everyone because of what happened with > the British," said Lois Martin, president of the Abbotsford, B.C., > Genealogical Society. > "It's probably a good way to test it to make sure it works. But I would hope > they wouldn't keep it from us too long. Many of us have been patiently > waiting for this kind of thing." > > ---------- > > I had a go at it tonight, and discovered that in order to find somebody in the census, you've already got to know juszt about everything that is in there about him or her. Typical government planning. > > Dennis Bell in Burnaby

OOPS typo...... That should be b. 1862 on the first Joseph Elliott. Not enough coffee yet this morning. :) Randy At 08:38 AM 5/31/02 -0600, you wrote: >While surfing on familysearch.com I came across a listing of a Joseph >Elliott b. 1832 to parents Robert Elliott and Jane McQuilkin in Quebec. > > From the current information that I have my great grandfather Joseph L. > Elliott was born in Quebec Jul 1863. > >Does anyone know if this could be the same person? > >Thanks, > >Randy Elliott > > >==== SCOTS-IN-CANADA Mailing List ==== >To unsubscribe: SCOTS-IN-CANADA-L-request@rootsweb.com inserting the word >unsubscribe in both the subject line and the text area and using a fresh >email to do it. Use -D- if you are in Digest mode. > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, >go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

While surfing on familysearch.com I came across a listing of a Joseph Elliott b. 1832 to parents Robert Elliott and Jane McQuilkin in Quebec. From the current information that I have my great grandfather Joseph L. Elliott was born in Quebec Jul 1863. Does anyone know if this could be the same person? Thanks, Randy Elliott

Henry Wilson born in Scotland maybe Dumfriesshire, m. Huldah Muller bn. in Prussia, in 1872 in Carleton Co. Ottawa, Ontario. Henry Wilson was the son of Henry Wilson and Catharine? Ancestors, Siblings, Descendants? Huldah Muller was dau. of Frederick Muller and Huldah ? Ancestors, Siblings, Descendants?

Hi folks: The following news story moved this afternoon across Canada via The Canadian Press newswire: OTTAWA (CP) - It's a tale to make a publicist weep. Fearing it may have a smash hit on its hands that could bring down its Internet server, the National Archives of Canada purposely buried the online launch of the country's 1901 census data. The material has been available on the Web for more than a week, but the agency made a conscious decision not to publicize that fact. "We've launched it softly in terms of not wanting to draw a lot of traffic right off so that it brings our server down," said Paul Marsden, Webmaster at the National Archives. If it sounds like Marsden is blowing smoke, he's not. He's trying to avoid the fate of Britain's Public Record Office, which held a much publicized Web launch of its 1901 census data on Jan. 2. The site - two years in development - was designed to handle about 1.2 million hits day. It received that number every hour. The site crashed under the weight of 30 million hits on its first day and still isn't up and running five months later. The Canadian site, available for those willing to do a little digging (www.archives.ca/02/0201-e.html), received hits from 320 servers on May 21, its first day of operation. It's up to about 3,500 a day a little more than week later - and that's only a measure of servers, some of which may be routing hundreds of individual subscribers to the site. Never underestimate the tenacity and numbers of genealogists. "Working in the archives, you see that increasingly people are wanting to find their roots," said spokeswoman Michael Crawley. "There's just a huge surge in that." An official with the British Public Record Office has said the reprise of that site won't come with the same fanfare as its debut. "We will certainly be keeping a lower profile this time," a spokeswoman told the online journal IT Week. The National Archives have a much less ambitious and less costly plan than the British. The Brits paid a private company to index all the census data so that searchers could simply plug in a name and see what records turned up. People then had to pay to get actual copies of those records. "We've put the census online basically as it was produced by the Dominion statistician at the time," explained Marsden. "We're hoping that by putting it up (on the Web), people who are really willing to do the legwork will do the indexing for us." Genealogy groups have been doing the labourious 1901 indexing using microfilm for the past three years "This really blows that away in terms of accessibility," said Marsden. "They're going to have to work it, but it's free. For local history, you just can't get better than this." Ken Bird, president of the Ontario Genealogical Society, said the word is leaking out about the online census data. "It's a bit complex and you probably have to have a pencil and paper with you to go through the different steps of getting to the information," he said. Nonetheless, said Bird, "demand will be quite heavy." "I see it as very positive for genealogists, especially for those who aren't near Ottawa and can't get in to the National Archives themselves." The site is not without its foibles. Some people, Bird included, are having difficulty downloading the software needed to call up and scan the actual census documents. The program allows Web surfers to zoom in on documents, photos or maps without losing resolution. It could be a boon to making a host of archived material more accessible. "But you go with something new on the Internet and you're into territory incognito - unknown ground," said Marsden. He hopes all the bugs will be worked out by October, when the site hopes to add more search features. In the meantime, genealogists are spreading the word. "I can appreciate they're not telling everyone because of what happened with the British," said Lois Martin, president of the Abbotsford, B.C., Genealogical Society. "It's probably a good way to test it to make sure it works. But I would hope they wouldn't keep it from us too long. Many of us have been patiently waiting for this kind of thing." ---------- I had a go at it tonight, and discovered that in order to find somebody in the census, you've already got to know juszt about everything that is in there about him or her. Typical government planning. Dennis Bell in Burnaby

I think my head was in the sand and I didn't realise that until Rick Reid had pointed it out....it looks as if I was adding or trying to add Canada.....who knows.....I sure don't! Glad it works for you now. Christine ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bruce K McGill" <brucemcgill@attbi.com> To: <SCOTS-IN-CANADA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 12:16 PM Subject: Re: [SCTCDN] Worthwhile Site--Re: Bruce's Query > Thanks. It worked. Rick Reid pointed out that the address in your original > note had an "ada" tacked on to the "html". I had noticed that, deleted those > letters, and tried it again. > > It still didn't work. For some reason, my computer was taking me back to the > cached page even though I had changed the extension. Learn something new > every day. > > Thanks for the correct address. > > Bruce > > > > From: "christine" <ccaej@sympatico.ca> > > Reply-To: SCOTS-IN-CANADA-L@rootsweb.com > > Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 09:54:33 -0400 > > To: SCOTS-IN-CANADA-L@rootsweb.com > > Subject: [SCTCDN] Worthwhile Site--Re: Bruce's Query > > Resent-From: SCOTS-IN-CANADA-L@rootsweb.com > > Resent-Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 07:52:48 -0600 > > > > http://www.islandnet.com/~jveinot/cghl/history.html > > > > > > > > Bruce, > > > > Try this one and let me know....don't know what I was doing. > > > > Christine > > > > > > ==== SCOTS-IN-CANADA Mailing List ==== > > To unsubscribe: SCOTS-IN-CANADA-L-request@rootsweb.com inserting the word > > unsubscribe in both the subject line and the text area and using a fresh email > > to do it. Use -D- if you are in Digest mode. > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go > > to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > ==== SCOTS-IN-CANADA Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe: SCOTS-IN-CANADA-L-request@rootsweb.com inserting the word unsubscribe in both the subject line and the text area and using a fresh email to do it. Use -D- if you are in Digest mode. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Thanks. It worked. Rick Reid pointed out that the address in your original note had an "ada" tacked on to the "html". I had noticed that, deleted those letters, and tried it again. It still didn't work. For some reason, my computer was taking me back to the cached page even though I had changed the extension. Learn something new every day. Thanks for the correct address. Bruce > From: "christine" <ccaej@sympatico.ca> > Reply-To: SCOTS-IN-CANADA-L@rootsweb.com > Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 09:54:33 -0400 > To: SCOTS-IN-CANADA-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [SCTCDN] Worthwhile Site--Re: Bruce's Query > Resent-From: SCOTS-IN-CANADA-L@rootsweb.com > Resent-Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 07:52:48 -0600 > > http://www.islandnet.com/~jveinot/cghl/history.html > > > > Bruce, > > Try this one and let me know....don't know what I was doing. > > Christine > > > ==== SCOTS-IN-CANADA Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe: SCOTS-IN-CANADA-L-request@rootsweb.com inserting the word > unsubscribe in both the subject line and the text area and using a fresh email > to do it. Use -D- if you are in Digest mode. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go > to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

http://www.islandnet.com/~jveinot/cghl/history.html Bruce, Try this one and let me know....don't know what I was doing. Christine

Bruce, Sorry, I couldn't even open it, so you got a tad more than me.....so don't think you did anything wrong.... I'll need to go and check URL again, I will post back shortly. Christine ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bruce K McGill" <brucemcgill@attbi.com> To: <SCOTS-IN-CANADA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 9:37 AM Subject: Re: [SCTCDN] Worthwhile Site > Christine - > > Here's what I got. > > The file "/~jveinot/cghl/history.htmlada" does not exist on this server. > > What did I do wrong? > > Bruce > > > > From: "christine" <ccaej@sympatico.ca> > > Reply-To: SCOTS-IN-CANADA-L@rootsweb.com > > Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 08:16:37 -0400 > > To: SCOTS-IN-CANADA-L@rootsweb.com > > Subject: [SCTCDN] Worthwhile Site > > Resent-From: SCOTS-IN-CANADA-L@rootsweb.com > > Resent-Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 06:14:53 -0600 > > > > www.islandnet.com/~jveinot/cghl/history.htmlada > > > ==== SCOTS-IN-CANADA Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe: SCOTS-IN-CANADA-L-request@rootsweb.com inserting the word unsubscribe in both the subject line and the text area and using a fresh email to do it. Use -D- if you are in Digest mode. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Bruce Just drop the 'ada' from the tail end and it will be fine. http://www.islandnet.com/~jveinot/cghl/history.html Rick > Christine - > > Here's what I got. > > The file "/~jveinot/cghl/history.htmlada" does not exist on this server. > > What did I do wrong? > > Bruce > > > > From: "christine" <ccaej@sympatico.ca> > > Reply-To: SCOTS-IN-CANADA-L@rootsweb.com > > Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 08:16:37 -0400 > > To: SCOTS-IN-CANADA-L@rootsweb.com > > Subject: [SCTCDN] Worthwhile Site > > Resent-From: SCOTS-IN-CANADA-L@rootsweb.com > > Resent-Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 06:14:53 -0600 > > > > www.islandnet.com/~jveinot/cghl/history.htmlada > > > ==== SCOTS-IN-CANADA Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe: SCOTS-IN-CANADA-L-request@rootsweb.com inserting the word unsubscribe in both the subject line and the text area and using a fresh email to do it. Use -D- if you are in Digest mode. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >