Hi Folks I am a new subscriber to this list. Tracing several Scottish families in Canada. 1. The descendants of Murdo GRAHAM b. 1801 son of Malcolm Graham of Borve, Lewis Isle came from South Galson, Lewis in 1841 and his wife Catherine MacRITCHIE b. 1803 dau of Donald MacRitchie of Melbost Borve, Lewis Isle- emigrated 1841 and settled in Lingwick, Quebec - (Q53) in Bill Lawsons Register of Emigrant Families from the Western Isled of Scotland to the Eastern Townships of Quebec. Especially interested in eldest son of the above couple, Norman GRAHAM who migrated to Stokes Bay, Eastnor Township, Bruce County. 2. The descendants of Kenneth MacLEAY (b. 1794) son of Donald MacLeay of Lower Shader, Lewis Isle and his wife Mary MAcDONALD (b. 1801) of North Dell, Lewis Isle. They came from Ballantrushal, Lewis in 1851 and settled in Lingwick before migrating to Huron Township, Bruce Co. (Q523) in Bill Lawson's register. 3. The descendants of Malcolm MacIVER (b. 1831) who emigrated from Lewis Isle in 1851 as a bachelor and settled in Huron Township, Bruce Co. - (ON317) in A Registerof Emigrant Families from the Western Isles of Scotland to Ontario, Canada by Bill Lawson. 4. The family of Kirsty MacRITCHIE b. 1842 Cape Breton wife of Malcolm MacIVER (listed above) and daughter of Murdo MacRITCHIE (b. 1809) and Ann MacASKILL who emigrated from Lewis to Sydney, Cape Breton then moved to Huron Township, Bruce Co. in 1851.(ON241) in Bill Lawson's register. 5. Ancestors and siblings of William McPHERSON born 1885 Grangemouth, Scotland. Emigrated 1912 with siblings and parents William McPHERSON & Ann WALKER. Settled Toronto first at 282 Ryder and later at 128 Northland Avenue, Mount Dennis (a suburban area of Toronto). Bonnie Ostler

Just a few more questions -- what records, specifically, were searched? Were these indexes put together from the headstones? Caretaker's records? The reason I ask is because sometimes there are no headstones, for several different reasons, the main one being cost. If there is no headstone when an index is done -- there's no entry (obviously). Even caretaker's records can be lost - one cemetery that I have *residents* in has virtually NO existing records, thanks to the sloppy managing by previous caretakers. I almost cried when I was shown the records vault, which consisted of an old, rusty card index file with *maybe* 30 or 40 cards. And those were not fully filled out. Most cemeteries had vaults at that time, that were utilized when the ground was frozen. Again, if the caretaker was vigilant, both the later burial *and* the records were done properly. Have you checked the obituaries for the area? The cemetery I mentioned above must be *re-created*, most likely from obituaries. And if a family could not afford a headstone, they still had the obituary. I would think, if the family was returning to Scotland, perhaps he is buried, but without a stone. I know it's a terrible thought, but perhaps they thought a stone could be gotten later on. I've seen some headstones that were not placed on a grave till a decade later. Morgan SJarvis wrote: > > This is slightly off the topic of Scots in Canada. But, since my relative > was from Scotland and died in Canada, I guess it could be on topic. > > Now my story. My g-g-grandfather died in Uxbridge, Ontario in October of > 1862. Several kind posters on another list have checked most, if not all of > the cemeteries in the area of Uxbridge and have not found any burial records > for him. So, my question is was cremation a possibility during this time? > Would the ground have already frozen by late October preventing his burial > until later? If it was later, there still should be some record of his > burial somewhere. His wife and children left Canada and returned to > Scotland only a few weeks after his death. I would think it highly unlikely > that they shipped his body back to Scotland, so if there is no record of him > being buried, what became of him???? > > Any opinions, ideas or knowledge is greatly appreciated. >

Hannah BOWMAN, Elisabeth FORRESTER, Ebenezer BAIN families from (Northumberland) and Edinburgh C.1850 to Montreal, Quebec Canada and on to various other Canadian locations. Henry MCNAB (Macnab, Mcnab etc.) m. Elizabeth LIVINGSTON (N.Ireland) to Toronto, Ontario (Muddy York, Upper Canada) then to Mulmur Twp, Dufferin (Simcoe) Co., Ontario C. 1831 with family i. JOHN MCNABB, b. 1820. ii. WILLIAM MCNABB, b. 1822; d. 10 October 1911, Bowsman, Manitoba. . iii. THOMAS "HENRY" MCNABB, b. 1827. iv. ROBERT MCNABB, b. 1818; m. ANNE; b. 1824. v. MARY ANN MCNABB, b. Abt. 1840. vi. ELIZA MCNABB, b. Abt. 1842. Married into STROWGER (UEL?), COTTON (Irish?), SOLOMON (Irish?) families in Canada Janice McNabb jmcnabb@vaxxine.com

Here is a site that is a very helpful site for those that don't really know anything of Scotland, it can lead to all kinds of tools to aid research. Christine http://www.rampantscotland.com/features.htm

Susan My great-grandmother died in Cochrane, ON and we searched for quite awhile coming up blank. We were told that burials were all done in May because of the frozen ground so we searched and still didn't find her. Finally someone was going to visit their old homestead in Quebec and, lo and behold, there she was! The family had shipped her back because she had had a daughter buried there before they left Quebec years earlier. Maybe you should check their place or arrival from Scotland in case a brother or parents or child had been buried there and they wanted him with them. Just an idea! ----- Original Message ----- From: SJarvis To: SCOTS-IN-CANADA-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, July 22, 2002 4:37 AM Subject: [SCTCDN] Burial practices in 1862-- cremation? This is slightly off the topic of Scots in Canada. But, since my relative was from Scotland and died in Canada, I guess it could be on topic. Now my story. My g-g-grandfather died in Uxbridge, Ontario in October of 1862. Several kind posters on another list have checked most, if not all of the cemeteries in the area of Uxbridge and have not found any burial records for him. So, my question is was cremation a possibility during this time? Would the ground have already frozen by late October preventing his burial until later? If it was later, there still should be some record of his burial somewhere. His wife and children left Canada and returned to Scotland only a few weeks after his death. I would think it highly unlikely that they shipped his body back to Scotland, so if there is no record of him being buried, what became of him???? Any opinions, ideas or knowledge is greatly appreciated. Susan ==== SCOTS-IN-CANADA Mailing List ==== UNSUBSCRIBE - send email to - SCOTS-IN-CANADA-L-request@rootsweb.com (D if Digest Mode) and type unsubscribe in subject line and message box. ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

You are most welcome. Christine's the one to thank though - she "dug 'em up". Good Luck. David. This email was scanned with Norton Anti Virus 2002. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Morgan Robertson" <anu2@america.net> To: <SCOTS-IN-CANADA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, July 22, 2002 7:26 AM Subject: Re: [SCTCDN] Perthshire, Scotland info. > Wow! > > I guess I'll be burning the midnight (or early am) oil on this -- many, > many thanks! > > Morgan > > David M Paterson wrote: > > > > Morgan, here's what the intrepid researcher Christine found for you - > > > > http://www.ukgenealogy.co.uk/per.htm > > http://www.perthshire.co.uk/perthshire.asp?SRC=53 > > http://www.shewolf.net/avace/scotland/robertson.html > > http://www.therealperth.com/perth_shop.htm > > http://www.therealperth.com/PHhistory3.htm > > http://www.therealperth.com/PHhistory.htm > > > > That lot should give you a start I imagine. Thanks are due to Christine for > > all them. > > David. > > > > > ==== SCOTS-IN-CANADA Mailing List ==== > UNSUBSCRIBE - send email to - SCOTS-IN-CANADA-L-request@rootsweb.com (D if Digest Mode) and type unsubscribe in subject line and message box. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Wow! I guess I'll be burning the midnight (or early am) oil on this -- many, many thanks! Morgan David M Paterson wrote: > > Morgan, here's what the intrepid researcher Christine found for you - > > http://www.ukgenealogy.co.uk/per.htm > http://www.perthshire.co.uk/perthshire.asp?SRC=53 > http://www.shewolf.net/avace/scotland/robertson.html > http://www.therealperth.com/perth_shop.htm > http://www.therealperth.com/PHhistory3.htm > http://www.therealperth.com/PHhistory.htm > > That lot should give you a start I imagine. Thanks are due to Christine for > all them. > David. >

In case someone didn't read my last message, I'll underline the point now - no further discussion about message format please - email about that off list in future. The intention of subscribing to a List is to search for people not indulge in discussions about messages. David/Admin This email was scanned with Norton Anti Virus 2002.

LOL! Sorry -- been writing so much tonight my brain flipped over into geek-speak: IMNSHAGO = "In My Not So Humble And Godlike Opinion" - tongue planted firmly in cheek when you type this one YMMV = "Your Mileage May Vary" And my brain just shut down, refusing to spit out the name that categorizes these *shortenings*. Perhaps with a day's sleep...<grin> Morgan tamiz_moon@hotPOP.com wrote: > > Hiya Morgan ! : ) > > please please PLEASE... i must know what these mean... > "IMNSHAGO & YMMV" > thanks! > tamiz >

This is slightly off the topic of Scots in Canada. But, since my relative was from Scotland and died in Canada, I guess it could be on topic. Now my story. My g-g-grandfather died in Uxbridge, Ontario in October of 1862. Several kind posters on another list have checked most, if not all of the cemeteries in the area of Uxbridge and have not found any burial records for him. So, my question is was cremation a possibility during this time? Would the ground have already frozen by late October preventing his burial until later? If it was later, there still should be some record of his burial somewhere. His wife and children left Canada and returned to Scotland only a few weeks after his death. I would think it highly unlikely that they shipped his body back to Scotland, so if there is no record of him being buried, what became of him???? Any opinions, ideas or knowledge is greatly appreciated. Susan

This is a definite bookmark site: http://www.paul_smith.doctors.org.uk/ArchaicMedicalTerms.htm They also have a timeline for epidemics, pandemics, etc. If you find a family that has alot of children and/or elderly dying around a certain time, that list might give you an idea as to why.... Morgan -- *//////{<>==================> \ Garg'n Uair Dhuisgear Member - NEHGS Family Roots of Pictou and Antigonish Counties, Nova Scotia http://www.rootsweb.com/~pictou YAHOO Canada's Pick of the Week for May 29th, 1998 Join the Pictou-Roots Mail List -- http://www.topica.com/subscribe/pictouroots Listowner, DISABLED-GENIES-L@rootsweb.com Nova Scotia Cemetery Finding Aid Gene Police: YOU!! Out of the pool! "I've learned that making a living is not the same thing as making a life." Anonymous

Hi Sherry.. : ) Yes I agree with you completely. I've learned pretty quickly that you sometimes find EXACTLY what you're looking for in the most unlikely places! tamiz ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sherry" <s.p.tripp@sympatico.ca> To: <SCOTS-IN-CANADA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, July 21, 2002 9:28 PM Subject: Re: [SCTCDN] Subject Lines!!!!! > I thought this list is for us to all help each other? If you're only reading whatever comes through under your own surname of interest then you could be missing something that you could possibly help someone else with. If we all only care about our own research than no one is going to get anywhere. I for one don't wish to keep helping others who don't want to give anything back. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Norma Brown > To: SCOTS-IN-CANADA-L@rootsweb.com > Sent: Sunday, July 21, 2002 9:01 PM > Subject: [SCTCDN] Subject Lines!!!!! > > > > Please put your surnames, in capital letters, in the subject line. > > It makes it 110% easier to know if a message is of interest. It will also > make your message easier to find in the archives for the list. > > Norma > > > ==== SCOTS-IN-CANADA Mailing List ==== > UNSUBSCRIBE - send email to - SCOTS-IN-CANADA-L-request@rootsweb.com (D if Digest Mode) and type unsubscribe in subject line and message box. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > ==== SCOTS-IN-CANADA Mailing List ==== > UNSUBSCRIBE - send email to - SCOTS-IN-CANADA-L-request@rootsweb.com (D if Digest Mode) and type unsubscribe in subject line and message box. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Hi Norma... : ) Please elaborate. How can what you suggest be possible or practical if one is looking for multiple surnames? Also, having found info on "my" lines in postings that carry subject lines that are "seemingly" unrelated, I wouldn't want to dismiss one based on the subject line alone. Thanks! tamiz ----- Original Message ----- From: "Norma Brown" <browndm@sympatico.ca> To: <SCOTS-IN-CANADA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, July 21, 2002 9:01 PM Subject: [SCTCDN] Subject Lines!!!!! > > Please put your surnames, in capital letters, in the subject line. > > It makes it 110% easier to know if a message is of interest. It will also > make your message easier to find in the archives for the list. > > Norma > > > ==== SCOTS-IN-CANADA Mailing List ==== > UNSUBSCRIBE - send email to - SCOTS-IN-CANADA-L-request@rootsweb.com (D if Digest Mode) and type unsubscribe in subject line and message box. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Hiya Morgan ! : ) please please PLEASE... i must know what these mean... "IMNSHAGO & YMMV" thanks! tamiz ----- Original Message ----- From: "Morgan Robertson" <anu2@america.net> To: <SCOTS-IN-CANADA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, July 21, 2002 10:43 PM Subject: [SCTCDN] Subject lines ;-) > Folks -- > > My 2 cents. Being a multiple listowner, I understand *both* sides of > the argument. But can I toss out a *reality check* without getting > tossed off the list? > > There is ALWAYS going to be someone who has learned and/or decided that > the *only* way to do research is by searching for hours thru archives - > mostly Rootsweb, or any of the other *pay as you go* sites. And yes, > you'll occasionally get a message that says *this is the best way to do > it*, followed by instructions. Okay -- they have a right to post this. I > just hope it doesn't become a habit. > > On my own lists, we learn by helping each other out. PATIENCE, on all > sides is required to do this. And, IMNSHAGO, you should be reading > posts, especially if you aren't familiar with the area you are > researching in. But again - that's my opinion -- YMMV... > > I *hate* going thru archives. Most of the posts have email addresses > that no longer exist, or if the person you contact bothers to write > back, they have little to offer... > > Now a live body on the other side of the mail packet, actually reading > my message? THAT is what I thrive on... > > Morgan > > gonna set my soapbox on fire one of these days....I'll shut up now... > -- > *//////{<>==================> > \ Garg'n Uair Dhuisgear > > Member - NEHGS > Family Roots of Pictou and Antigonish Counties, Nova Scotia > http://www.rootsweb.com/~pictou > YAHOO Canada's Pick of the Week for May 29th, 1998 > Join the Pictou-Roots Mail List -- > http://www.topica.com/subscribe/pictouroots > Listowner, DISABLED-GENIES-L@rootsweb.com > Nova Scotia Cemetery Finding Aid > Gene Police: YOU!! Out of the pool! > "I've learned that making a living is not the same thing as making a > life." > Anonymous > > > ==== SCOTS-IN-CANADA Mailing List ==== > UNSUBSCRIBE - send email to - SCOTS-IN-CANADA-L-request@rootsweb.com (D if Digest Mode) and type unsubscribe in subject line and message box. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Morgan, here's what the intrepid researcher Christine found for you - http://www.ukgenealogy.co.uk/per.htm http://www.perthshire.co.uk/perthshire.asp?SRC=53 http://www.shewolf.net/avace/scotland/robertson.html http://www.therealperth.com/perth_shop.htm http://www.therealperth.com/PHhistory3.htm http://www.therealperth.com/PHhistory.htm That lot should give you a start I imagine. Thanks are due to Christine for all them. David. This email was scanned with Norton Anti Virus 2002.

Folks -- My 2 cents. Being a multiple listowner, I understand *both* sides of the argument. But can I toss out a *reality check* without getting tossed off the list? There is ALWAYS going to be someone who has learned and/or decided that the *only* way to do research is by searching for hours thru archives - mostly Rootsweb, or any of the other *pay as you go* sites. And yes, you'll occasionally get a message that says *this is the best way to do it*, followed by instructions. Okay -- they have a right to post this. I just hope it doesn't become a habit. On my own lists, we learn by helping each other out. PATIENCE, on all sides is required to do this. And, IMNSHAGO, you should be reading posts, especially if you aren't familiar with the area you are researching in. But again - that's my opinion -- YMMV... I *hate* going thru archives. Most of the posts have email addresses that no longer exist, or if the person you contact bothers to write back, they have little to offer... Now a live body on the other side of the mail packet, actually reading my message? THAT is what I thrive on... Morgan gonna set my soapbox on fire one of these days....I'll shut up now... -- *//////{<>==================> \ Garg'n Uair Dhuisgear Member - NEHGS Family Roots of Pictou and Antigonish Counties, Nova Scotia http://www.rootsweb.com/~pictou YAHOO Canada's Pick of the Week for May 29th, 1998 Join the Pictou-Roots Mail List -- http://www.topica.com/subscribe/pictouroots Listowner, DISABLED-GENIES-L@rootsweb.com Nova Scotia Cemetery Finding Aid Gene Police: YOU!! Out of the pool! "I've learned that making a living is not the same thing as making a life." Anonymous

I am looking for information on the BANNERMAN and SUTHERLAND families. Hannah BANNERMAN, was born abt.1836 in Upper Canada, ON and died in 1877 in Bradford, West Gwillimbury, Simcoe Co., Ontario. She was the wife of Robert STEWART, born 1835 in Glenbervie, Kincardineshire, Scotland and died 1921 in Bradford, Simcoe Co., Ontario, Canada. Hannah is believed to be the daughter of John BANNERMAN and Isabella SUTHERLAND, though I have no proof. It is said that John BANNERMAN and Isabella SUTHERLAND had six daughters, of whom Hannah was the youngest. HEMAN SUTHERLAND was the brother of Isabella SUTHERLAND. Would enjoy hearing from others researching BANNERMAN and SUTHERLAND families. Graechen Stewart

I thought this list is for us to all help each other? If you're only reading whatever comes through under your own surname of interest then you could be missing something that you could possibly help someone else with. If we all only care about our own research than no one is going to get anywhere. I for one don't wish to keep helping others who don't want to give anything back. ----- Original Message ----- From: Norma Brown To: SCOTS-IN-CANADA-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, July 21, 2002 9:01 PM Subject: [SCTCDN] Subject Lines!!!!! Please put your surnames, in capital letters, in the subject line. It makes it 110% easier to know if a message is of interest. It will also make your message easier to find in the archives for the list. Norma ==== SCOTS-IN-CANADA Mailing List ==== UNSUBSCRIBE - send email to - SCOTS-IN-CANADA-L-request@rootsweb.com (D if Digest Mode) and type unsubscribe in subject line and message box. ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Please put your surnames, in capital letters, in the subject line. It makes it 110% easier to know if a message is of interest. It will also make your message easier to find in the archives for the list. Norma

Sutherland James "the parson" b 1763 Kildonan last seen in West Gwillimbury 1823 Sutherland Heman Kildonan B 1793 Sutherland Barbara Kildonan B 1791 Matheson John Died 1791 1866 Inverhuron Ontario Cooper John Sutherland Phoebe born Upper Canada abt 1833 daughter of James " the parson"Sutherland .