Judi, Thank you for all of the information, should find a bit more now. Linda

Just a point in here - the 1871 census on line is in fact the Ontario Householder's index - it includes heads of households and strays - It is not a full transcription - however it does give you film number etc making it easier for retrieval from Microfilms. It is available at the Canadian archives at this link. http://www.archives.ca/02/020108_e.html I would like to point out too, however, that the 1871 Ontario census has been transcribed for various areas and look-ups are available usually for a fee at the local gen societies (other years have been done as well for some areas) - You can check out Ontario Genealogical Societies at: http://www.ogs.on.ca/ to find the one for the area you are researching - there are OGS affiliates and non-affiliates - both are very good and many have websites. Also some have been transcribed on line - and a good site to check out is http://olivetreegenealogy.com/index.shtml Judi Mcnairn.

Hi, Could you please let me know where you found the 1871 census on line? Do you know of any earlier census records that might be on line. Thanks, Linda Van Deusen-Kintzing Van Deusen * Watts * McMillan * Seitzt * DeLaMatre * Kidner *McClean

I have seen the 1871 Ontario census online. Is there one for Quebec...or does anyone have access to it who could do a lookup for me? Thank you, Judi --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.435 / Virus Database: 244 - Release Date: 12/30/02

Hello Listers and especially D. Lou Ritter. Hope you all had a wonderful holiday season! Sometime before Christmas Lou wrote on this list regarding a question I had about my McKELLAR family in Middlesex County, Ontario and mentioned a book by D. Kenneth Mackellar named "Kilmartin Pioneers, 1815-1855". I have just spoken to Mr. Mackellar who told me he has just finished his third book, but has a few copies of Kilmartin Pioneers left. If you are interested in this wonderful book you may contact him at: Mr. D. Kenneth MacKellar 240 Walker Street Glencoe, Ontario NOL 1M0 or phone 519-287-3396 as he is not connected to the internet. Thanks again Lou! Jan Corriveau Janet Corriveau wrote: > > > Where would one obtain a copy of 'Kilmartin Pioneers, 1815-1855'? > Is it easily ordered? > > > Donna Lou Ritter wrote: > > > There is a book titled KILMARTIN PIONEERS, 1815-1855 by Dugald Kenneth > > MacKellar that documents many of the Argyll Scots who came to live in Mosa & > > Ekfrid townships. At a quick glance in my copy, I'm not seeing the exact > > combinations of names you mention below. I don't have a lot of time right > > now, but will look more carefully later. If you want to e-mail me directly > > with as much information you have--and your degree of certainty--I'll be > > happy to check for you. D. Lou Ritter > > > > > > > > > Mary McKellar, Born Scotland circa 1815 > > > - was told her first language was gaelic. > > > - Her mother's first name was probably Isabella. > > > - married John McCALLUM, 1833 Aldboro, Ontario > > > by the Rev. Dugald Campbell, Baptist minister. > > > - 1851 Census...Mary lived in Ekfrid Twp. with her > > > husband, children, and John and Mary McCALLUM, sr. > > > (Mary's in-laws or her husband's grandparents) > > > - The whole family is listed as Baptist. > > > > > > Children: > > > Donald, Alexander, Margaret, Neil, Isabella, and > > > Catherine. All born in the 1830/40's in Ontario. > > >> > > > Suggested ancestors of Mary......................... > > > > > > Father: Malcolm McKellar, born 1779 > > > Mother: Isobel Walker > > > married 1804, Rothesay, Isle of Bute > > > > > > Grandfather: Duncan McKellar born 1748, Kilblaan > > > Grandmother: Mary McKellar >

Good morning, Someone on the PEI List was looking for a book this morning, and I'd like to remind/tell people about the web site: http://www.abebooks.com/ It provides a list of used or new books and the book sellers who are selling them. I did a search for the words, Scottish, Canada, in a title ... and found quite a selection of books. Betty (near Lowell, MA, USA) "There are two lasting bequests we can give our children; one is roots, the other is wings." Hodding Carter, Jr.

Greetings All. My thanks to all who responded to my message regarding the loss of my email messages and addresses. I am happy to report that my problems have been resolved! It cost me almost $70 (Cdn) for a book on running Windows 2000 Professional but in the end run it was worth the cost. I have been able to access many messages regarding my own genealogy which has been on hold for some time because of the Census campaign. I have likewise been able to retrieve the many messages relating to the Census campaign. The resolution was as simple as being able to find out how to log off as a system administrator and log on as myself. My only problem now will be to consolidate the address book for 'administrator', which I have spent all day updating, and the address book for myself -- a time consuming but minor task. Again, my thanks to all who responded to my request for your addresses, and to those who made suggestions regarding possible resolutions to my problem. Your responses and suggestions have been greatly appreciated. A side benefit of my problem has been that a great many people who had not previously been on my group list asked to be added to it. Happy Hunting Gordon A. Watts gordon_watts@telus.net Co-Chair, Canada Census Committee Port Coquitlam, BC http://globalgenealogy.com/Census en français http://globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index_f.htm Permission to forward without notice is granted.

Does that mean you live in Beaverton, I grew up in Beaverton and in later years lived right accross from the cemetery, where my sister now lives. All of the old headstones are listed at the Ontario Archives and can be viewed there if anyone is interested. Bob Dickson (who has numerous members of his family buried in Old Sone Church Cemetey, Beaverton.) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian, Carol Trollope" <gullake@primus.ca> To: <SCOTS-IN-CANADA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 01, 2003 1:33 AM Subject: [SCTCDN] St. Andrew's Presbyterian Church, 1840, Beaverton, Ontario, Canada > On a Plaque, on a steel post in front of this Beaverton, Church states: > > St. Andrew's Presbyterian Church 1840 > > Built by the volunteer labour of the local congregation on land granted > by the Crown in 1835, and designed in the Neo-Classic manner, St. > Andrew's was started in 1840 and completed by 1853. This limestone and > granite structure replaced on earlier log church which stood in the > vicinity. Services in St. Andrew's, which were held even before the > completion, were conducted in both English and Gaelic. The Reverend > David Watson, D.D. inducted in 1853 as the first regular minister, > served until his retirement in 1898 but continued to be associated with > St. Andrew's until his death in 1903. Although a new St. Andrew's was > built in Beaverton in 1879, services have been continued in the "Old > Stone Church" during the summer months. > Erected by the Archeological and Historic Sites Board Department of > Public Records and Archives of Ontario. > > I hope this information is of interest to all those with relatives > buried in the Cemetery, which is beside the Church. > > My Geneological interests are McKinnon, and Veale: > > > ==== SCOTS-IN-CANADA Mailing List ==== > UNSUBSCRIBE - send email to - SCOTS-IN-CANADA-L-request@rootsweb.com (D if Digest Mode) and type unsubscribe in subject line and message box. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Roy, I was thinking about your quandry here as to where in Canada these people may be - and wondered if it was likely they could have been here in 1881 - if so the 1881 census for Canada is on the family search site - and if you were to look up your grandparents names that way - that might help give you a location. You also mention about mining - Mining would likely knock out a few provinces - however there for sure has been mining in Nova Scotia and Ontario - and I am pretty sure, Newfoundland, and New Brunswick and Quebec. Quite possibly in British Columbia as well. Good Luck Judi ----- Original Message ----- From: <ARRANDESS@aol.com> To: <SCOTS-IN-CANADA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, December 23, 2002 2:46 PM Subject: [SCTCDN] Suggestion please? > Hi ... first real sortie onto this board ... David and Nan have been guiding > me so far but hopefully I'm now off and moving on my own. A closer look at a > census page showed me that three of my father's siblings were born in Canada. > Unfortunately it doesn't say where. Their name were Mary Jane Stewart (born > c1883) and George and William Stewart (twins, born c1886). My basic need is a > suggestion as to what records might be available to me so that I can check > this out further. Anything would be appreciated. All the best from > Edinburgh, Roy. > PS Not a Scots word insight! > > > ==== SCOTS-IN-CANADA Mailing List ==== > UNSUBSCRIBE - send email to - SCOTS-IN-CANADA-L-request@rootsweb.com (D if Digest Mode) and type unsubscribe in subject line and message box. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Greetings All. With today being the first day of a new year, it seems that my computer decided to start over again as well. Due to an unexpected twist when setting up my home computer network my email program decided to go bye-bye, along with about 3000 past email messages and my address book of almost 1000 addresses. I do not believe that all of this has been somehow deleted but it has gotten lost in the maze of folders and directories. Some day when least expected, I may once again find my messages which include many regarding my genealogy which has been on hold the past few years, and which I will sorely miss otherwise. In the meantime I have managed to partially resurrect my address book by importing the one from my laptop. There are, however, many that were in my main PC address book that were not included with my laptop addresses. I had a special group list to which I directly sent Census messages. If you are one who normally received my messages directly but receive this message only through a mail list posting, please contact me to ensure that I have your address and can include it once more in my group address list. If you have recently sent me a message for which you did not receive an expected reply, please resend that message to me. Thank you. Happy New Year once again. Gordon A. Watts gordon_watts@telus.net Co-Chair, Canada Census Committee Port Coquitlam, BC http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census en francais http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index_f.htm Permission to forward without notice is granted.

Have you tried the OCFA at islandnet.com/ocfa/homepage.html? There is also a website with pictures of the cemetery that you might want to look at: http://erin_cemeteries.tripod.com/photos/id3.html Gail

Thanks Gail I have tried the ocfa. That's where I found the family. Barb ----- Original Message ----- From: <Gdwe60@cs.com> To: <SCOTS-IN-CANADA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 01, 2003 9:30 PM Subject: Re: [SCTCDN] LONG FAMILY > Have you tried the OCFA at islandnet.com/ocfa/homepage.html? There is also a > website with pictures of the cemetery that you might want to look at: > http://erin_cemeteries.tripod.com/photos/id3.html > > Gail > > > ==== SCOTS-IN-CANADA Mailing List ==== > UNSUBSCRIBE - send email to - SCOTS-IN-CANADA-L-request@rootsweb.com (D if Digest Mode) and type unsubscribe in subject line and message box. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Hello, Does anyone have access to the Erin Union Cemetery, in Wellington County, Erin Township? I am looking for the LONG family: Catherine, James, Jane, Mary and William F. #WW6476 and anyone buried with them. Any help appreciated. Thank you Barb

Does anyone know anything about the origins of Robert Elliot who married Louise Savoie 1788 in Québec? Thanks, Randy Here is my lineage beginning with myself: Randal Gene Elliott b. 9 Apr 1959 Waupaca, Waupaca County, Wisconsin, USA Joseph Dent Elliott b. 16 Jan 1938 Mineral Point, Iowa County, Wisconsin, USA Mary Lucille Madison b. 7 Jul 1939 Bloomfield, Waushara County, Wisconsin, USA Kenneth Henry Elliott b. 14 Nov 1911 Owen, Clark County, Wisconsin, USA d. 10 Apr 1974 Escanaba, Delta County, Michigan, USA Ruth Virginia Davidson b. 27 Nov 1914 Withee, Clark County, Wisconsin, USA d. 18 Oct 1988 Appleton, Outagamie County, Wisconsin, USA Joseph L. Elliot(t) b. 20 Jun 1862 Ste. Ursule, Maskinongé, Québec, Canada d. 12 Apr 1932 Owen, Clark County, Wisconsin, USA Viola Matilda Kretser b. 9 Aug 1870 Wisconsin, USA d. 6 Sep 1938 Owen, Clark County, Wisconsin, USA Robert Elliot b. 4 Oct 1829 St. Joseph, Maskinongé, Québec, Canada d. 7 May 1869 Montréal, Montréal, Québec, Canada Hermine Gerbeau b. 27 AUG 1838 Louiseville, Maskinongé, Québec, Canada d. 20 Mar 1916 Québec, Canada André Elliot b. 24 Nov 1788 Rivière-Du-Loup, Maskinongé, Québec, Canada d. 2 May 1872 Ste. Ursule, Maskinongé, Québec, Canada Marguerite Bélanger b. 28 Feb 1794 St-Antoine de Riviere-Du-Loop, Québec, Canada d. ??????? Robert Elliot b. Est 1760 Scotland or England d. 17 Apr 1810 St James, Trois Rivières, Québec, Canada Louise Elisabeth Marie Savoie b. 6 Apr 1769 Sorel, Maskinongé, Québec, Canada d. 5 Apr 1820 St. Joseph, Maskinongé, Québec, Canada

Mary, parents Duncan and Janet Love, b. abt. 1876 in Cowdenbeath, Fife, Scotland. Probably was in the Oakbank/Livingston Village area in West Lothian when she left Scotland. I know very little about searching Canadian records, and so would appreciate any tips/help at all!! Duncan (above) is my GG Grandfather, my grandfather came to New York in 1923, I am in the Great Plains, Nebraska. Greetings to all! --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now

On a Plaque, on a steel post in front of this Beaverton, Church states: St. Andrew's Presbyterian Church 1840 Built by the volunteer labour of the local congregation on land granted by the Crown in 1835, and designed in the Neo-Classic manner, St. Andrew's was started in 1840 and completed by 1853. This limestone and granite structure replaced on earlier log church which stood in the vicinity. Services in St. Andrew's, which were held even before the completion, were conducted in both English and Gaelic. The Reverend David Watson, D.D. inducted in 1853 as the first regular minister, served until his retirement in 1898 but continued to be associated with St. Andrew's until his death in 1903. Although a new St. Andrew's was built in Beaverton in 1879, services have been continued in the "Old Stone Church" during the summer months. Erected by the Archeological and Historic Sites Board Department of Public Records and Archives of Ontario. I hope this information is of interest to all those with relatives buried in the Cemetery, which is beside the Church. My Geneological interests are McKinnon, and Veale:

Greetings All FYI. I have sent the following letter to the Editor of the St. Catherines Standard in response to today's editorial, previously posted. Gordon ====================================== 31 December 2002 Editor - St. Catherines Standard Dear Sir or Ms. Your supportive editorial article (31 December 2002 - Release 1911 census data) is greatly appreciated by the many thousands of people seeking to research their ancestral roots in Canada. It has been stated that records of Census are the single most important source of information for those pursuing their genealogy. Those outside the genealogical and historical communities may not be aware that there was a Special Census of the Western Provinces (Alberta, Saskatchewan and Manitoba) taken in 1906. This was a particularly important Census as it was the first taken for the newly formed Provinces of Alberta and Saskatchewan, formerly part of the Northwest Territories. It also took place during a decade of the greatest influx of immigrants in Canada's history. To withhold those records after a reasonable period of closure (92 years) is a crime, not only in the mind, but in fact. In his refusal to turn care and control of these Historic Census Records over to the National Archivist, Chief Statistician Ivan P. Fellegi contravenes provisions in the National Archives of Canada Act, the Access to Information Act, and the Privacy Act. The Canada Census Committee, in February 2002, initiated a legal action to compel the Chief Statistician to transfer care and control of Nominal Schedules of the 1906 Special Census of the Western Provinces to the National Archivist. All documented evidence and testimony has been exchanged. Application has been made to the federal court for a hearing date. In addition to recommendations of the Expert Panel on Access to Historical Census Records (June 2000), the National Archivist Ian Wilson, and Information Commissioner John Reid, more than 60,000 signatures have been sent to Ottawa seeking to regain public access to these invaluable records. We have called upon Industry Minister Allan Rock to direct Dr. Fellegi to transfer care and control of the records in question to the National Archivist for subsequent public access. We have suggested that if the Chief Statistician refuses to follow such direction, he should be replaced with someone prepared to obey the laws of Canada. He should accept his well-deserved, and overdue, retirement. Gordon A. Watts gordon_watts@telus.net Co-Chair, Canada Census Committee 1455 Delia Drive Port Coquitlam, BC V3C 2V9 Tel. 604-942-6889 Fax 604-942-6843

Seasons Greetings to all on the list I am looking for Mcfarlanes who might have emigrated to Canada, James McFarlane b 1851 Dunoon Argyll m Catherine Buchanan 1876 in Balquhidder, Nine Children Known; James, Annie Catherine, Archibald McDiarmid, Beatrice Mary, Jessie S, Jane McDiarmid, William James, Walter Elliott, & Margaret Buchanan I would like to hear from anyone who can relate to the above Malcolm

Greetings All FYI. The St. Catherines Standard newspaper today included an Editorial article regarding access to Census records. It is also online at http://www.canada.com/search/story.aspx?id=a5175f95-f416-4cff-89e9-31a36 5c5c377# (This URL is too long for plain text format messages and will be wrapped around to a second line. Be sure that you include the full URL to access the article.) For those who may experience difficulty reaching the online version, I have copied the extracted text of the article below. My thanks to Gail Collins for advising me of the article. Happy Hunting and Happy New Year. Gordon A. Watts gordon_watts@telus.net Co-Chair, Canada Census Committee Port Coquitlam, BC http://globalgenealogy.com/Census en français http://globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index_f.htm ======================================= Release 1911 census data. The Standard stcatherines The bureaucratic mind is a baffling thing. It regularly makes decisions that make no sense, but the move by Statistics Canada to keep secret the national census of 1911 takes the cake. The federal government ruled in the 1980s that census records are to be opened 92 years after they are collected. As a result, the 1901 census was released in 1993. The records were made available to the public through the National Archives of Canada. As such, they became an important source of information for Canadians researching their family trees. But Stats Can doesn't want to release the 1911 census, for reasons that are not clear. That's a pity, because that decade saw a tremendous surge in immigration, particularly in the west. While at the time Ontario's population grew by 15 per cent and Quebec's increased by 21 per cent, Alberta and Saskatchewan ballooned to 413 per cent and 439 per cent respectively. That means a lot of descendants looking to find information on their ancestors are going to be frustrated unless Stats Can changes its mind. An expert panel on access to historical records, the National Archives and the Information Commissioner have all recommended that Statistics Canada release the information. The government announced a few months ago it would produce legislation to allow access to the old returns. But so far, nothing has changed. We urge Stats Can to open the vault. There's no purpose to be served by further secrecy, and there's a wealth of genealogical information to be shared. Let the documents see the light of day. <30>

Hi, Am looking for some information on a John Arnot(t) and wife Christina Storer who went from Scotland to Canada around 1842/3. Am looking for John's date of death also. Any children etc. Cheers Sandra (new to list)