No, it is not indexed by family name, but quite a few specific families are mentioned. I purchased this book recently, from an on-line seller in Ontario for $18.99 plus shipping. If anyone interested, contact me off-list for the web address. Ken MacLean Orleans Ontario ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert C. McArtor" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 10:03 AM Subject: [SCTCDN] Book by Prebble > Sir: If your book is indexed, perhaps you may see if any of the name > MacArthur, McArthur, or McArtor were transported. Thank you for your > kindness. Aye, Bob McArtor > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Malcolm Shaw" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 9:38 AM > Subject: [SCTCDN] {SCTCDN] Re: Scottish Clearances > > > > Good Morning All; > > > > To say that the Highland Clearances was "ethnic cleansing" is to put the > wrong slant on this despicable event in Scottish history. "Ethnic cleansing" > indicates the eradication of one ethnic race by and for the benefit of a > different ethnic race. In the case of the Clearances it was a case of > Scottish landowners eliminating Scottish peasants - not the same thing > really. More likely it was "greed" as well as being a very sad case of > "man's inhumanity to man". > > > > I have a book "The Highland Clearances" by John Prebble, published in > 1963. At pages 250 & 264 it refers top Col. John Gordon,(as well as South > Uist and Benbecula), as being a ruthless person. This is an excellent book > on the subject (if it is still available, the pages of my copy are > yellowing) and it is some time since I read it. It is a worthwhile addition > to one's library. I would be glad to do look-ups in it if anyone has a > question. > > > > The title page of the book has the quotation "Since you have preferred > sheep to men, let sheep defend you". > > > > Have a good day > > > > Malcolm Shaw, Calgary, Alberta > > > > > > > > > > ==== SCOTS-IN-CANADA Mailing List ==== > > To unsubscribe: [email protected] inserting the word > unsubscribe in both the subject line and the text area and using a fresh > email to do it. Use -D- if you are in Digest mode. > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > ______________________________

Hi Bob; I looked for the names you gave me but could not find them. Also I noticed on the Indigo/Chapters website at www.indigo.chapters.ca that most of Prebbles books are still available. If you are interested I would give them a try. Malcolm ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert C. McArtor" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 8:03 AM Subject: [SCTCDN] Book by Prebble > Sir: If your book is indexed, perhaps you may see if any of the name > MacArthur, McArthur, or McArtor were transported. Thank you for your > kindness. Aye, Bob McArtor > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Malcolm Shaw" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 9:38 AM > Subject: [SCTCDN] {SCTCDN] Re: Scottish Clearances > > > > Good Morning All; > > > > To say that the Highland Clearances was "ethnic cleansing" is to put the > wrong slant on this despicable event in Scottish history. "Ethnic cleansing" > indicates the eradication of one ethnic race by and for the benefit of a > different ethnic race. In the case of the Clearances it was a case of > Scottish landowners eliminating Scottish peasants - not the same thing > really. More likely it was "greed" as well as being a very sad case of > "man's inhumanity to man". > > > > I have a book "The Highland Clearances" by John Prebble, published in > 1963. At pages 250 & 264 it refers top Col. John Gordon,(as well as South > Uist and Benbecula), as being a ruthless person. This is an excellent book > on the subject (if it is still available, the pages of my copy are > yellowing) and it is some time since I read it. It is a worthwhile addition > to one's library. I would be glad to do look-ups in it if anyone has a > question. > > > > The title page of the book has the quotation "Since you have preferred > sheep to men, let sheep defend you". > > > > Have a good day > > > > Malcolm Shaw, Calgary, Alberta > > > > > > > > > > ==== SCOTS-IN-CANADA Mailing List ==== > > To unsubscribe: [email protected] inserting the word > unsubscribe in both the subject line and the text area and using a fresh > email to do it. Use -D- if you are in Digest mode. > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > ==== SCOTS-IN-CANADA Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe: [email protected] inserting the word unsubscribe in both the subject line and the text area and using a fresh email to do it. Use -D- if you are in Digest mode. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

The Highlanders were certainly discriminated against. Actually, still discriminated against. Even "Monty Python ..." had running gags making fun of people's attitudes. There is no evidence that I've seen, though, that says that there was an ethnic motivation. Look at perhaps the most flagrant example ... Renfrewshire. That was purely a clan chieftain (chieftanesse?) who cleared the whole shire strictly for monetary reasons. I don't think the Highlanders "herded" cattle. Certainly not in the same sense as herding sheep. Some of them did herd sheep when they were introduced. The Lowlanders brought in, though, had the experience and temperament to do the job better. It isn't like the Lowlanders replaced the Highlanders. Where it had take several families to farm a piece of land, it only took one Lowland shepherd to take care of all the sheep on that farm. There is no way the purpose of The Clearances was to replace the Highlanders with Lowlanders. Very few Lowlanders moved in as a result, and most of the Highlanders were left to fend for themselves still in the Highlands. Only a relatively small percentage of those who had been cleared were deported. The rest were left to their own devices, just not on the farms. Bruce > From: Steven Lyday <[email protected]> > Reply-To: [email protected] > Date: Wed, 15 May 2002 09:08:04 -0700 > To: [email protected] > Subject: [SCTCDN] Scottish Clearances > Resent-From: [email protected] > Resent-Date: Wed, 15 May 2002 10:12:33 -0600 > > Hi Malcolm, > > I am not sure that "ethnic cleansing" is that far off the mark. The > fact of the matter is that Scotland was comprised of two sets of ethic > peoples. The Gael Highlander and the Lowlander. They did not understand > each other. The prevailing view of the lowlander was that the Highland > was referred to as "wild Irishmen" and to some "The only good > Highlander was a dead Highlander" > > After Bonnie Prince Charlie's defeat at Culloden 1746 eradication of the > troublesome Highlanders started in earnest. > > The fact of the matter is that whether clearances were done by: > -the absentee chiefs themselves > -by English who purchased the land > -by English who received land seized after Culloden > > the goal in most cases was to get rid of the indigenous people. > > In most cases it was to "improve the land" i.e. make it more profitable. > There were other cases where the people were cleared to make room for > red deer and or increase grouse cover to improve his lordships hunting. > > Bottom line was that the goal for many was to get rid of a race of > people, "the Gael". One question that I have is why bring in southern > shepherds with the sheep. The Highlanders had been herding cattle for > hundreds of years. Were sheep too complicated for them? I do not > thinks so. > > Clearance Reading: > Great outlines; > http://www.celtic-connection.com/lit/clearanc-12-96.html > http://members.aol.com/skyewrites/clrchron.html > > Articles: > http://members.aol.com/skyewrites/menu9.html > http://www.chebucto.ns.ca/Heritage/FSCNS/Scots_NS/Hty_Sct//High_Clr/Mem/High_C > lr.html > http://www.electricscotland.com/history/sclearstrath.htm > > Re, > > Steven Lyday

Hi Larry, yes many with North American roots going back to Britain have the same problem as yourself in that they can't make the connection to the homeland and those who read clan histories would assume that there Mac/Mcpherson roots are from Badenoch and Strathspey however McPhersons branches have been found all over Scotland and even Ireland in my own case my Craignish McPhersons may in fact be descended from The Campbell McPhersons of Craignish the descendants of Dugald Campbell the parson reputed third son of Colin Campbell of Lochowe these descendants went by the patrionimic of Clandowill the sons Dugald The Parson. There is a book on the history of the Clan called " The Posterity of the three brethren" The progenitors of the Badenoch Macphersons. author Alan G. Macpherson of St.Johns Newfoundland: clan genealogist Publisher Clan Macpherson Association,Canada This book is available from: The CMA Museum,Newtonmore.Inverness.Scotland.PH20 1DE Jimmy _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx

Hi Malcolm, I am not sure that "ethnic cleansing" is that far off the mark. The fact of the matter is that Scotland was comprised of two sets of ethic peoples. The Gael Highlander and the Lowlander. They did not understand each other. The prevailing view of the lowlander was that the Highland was referred to as "wild Irishmen" and to some "The only good Highlander was a dead Highlander" After Bonnie Prince Charlie's defeat at Culloden 1746 eradication of the troublesome Highlanders started in earnest. The fact of the matter is that whether clearances were done by: -the absentee chiefs themselves -by English who purchased the land -by English who received land seized after Culloden the goal in most cases was to get rid of the indigenous people. In most cases it was to "improve the land" i.e. make it more profitable. There were other cases where the people were cleared to make room for red deer and or increase grouse cover to improve his lordships hunting. Bottom line was that the goal for many was to get rid of a race of people, "the Gael". One question that I have is why bring in southern shepherds with the sheep. The Highlanders had been herding cattle for hundreds of years. Were sheep too complicated for them? I do not thinks so. Clearance Reading: Great outlines; http://www.celtic-connection.com/lit/clearanc-12-96.html http://members.aol.com/skyewrites/clrchron.html Articles: http://members.aol.com/skyewrites/menu9.html http://www.chebucto.ns.ca/Heritage/FSCNS/Scots_NS/Hty_Sct//High_Clr/Mem/High_Clr.html http://www.electricscotland.com/history/sclearstrath.htm Re, Steven Lyday > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: > > [SCTCDN] {SCTCDN] Re: Scottish Clearances > From: > > "Malcolm Shaw" <[email protected]> > Date: > > Tue, 14 May 2002 07:38:20 -0600 > To: > > [email protected] > > >Good Morning All; > >To say that the Highland Clearances was "ethnic cleansing" is to put the wrong slant on this despicable event in Scottish history. "Ethnic cleansing" indicates the eradication of one ethnic race by and for the benefit of a different ethnic race. In the case of the Clearances it was a case of Scottish landowners eliminating Scottish peasants - not the same thing really. More likely it was "greed" as well as being a very sad case of "man's inhumanity to man". > >I have a book "The Highland Clearances" by John Prebble, published in 1963. At pages 250 & 264 it refers top Col. John Gordon,(as well as South Uist and Benbecula), as being a ruthless person. This is an excellent book on the subject (if it is still available, the pages of my copy are yellowing) and it is some time since I read it. It is a worthwhile addition to one's library. I would be glad to do look-ups in it if anyone has a question. > >The title page of the book has the quotation "Since you have preferred sheep to men, let sheep defend you". > >Have a good day > >Malcolm Shaw, Calgary, Alberta > >______________________________ >

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ATTENTION: Edbld <[email protected]> Hi Edd, Now it is "ruffling feathers" is it....be careful Edd, my cousin is married to a guy by the name of BIRD! :o) Have a nice day, I am going out to feed the pigeons! Bob in Toronto ----- Original Message ----- From: Edbld <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 2:56 PM Subject: Re: [SCTCDN] {SCTCDN] Re: Scottish Clearances > Hi Bruce, and thanks for the correction. I had intended to send that > directly to Malcolm, but see by checking back now that it went back to the > list. > My reply wasn't worded very well, and the intent certainly was not to ruffle > any feathers with the ethnic vs religious comment. > > Edd Sinnett

I apologize for sounding like my feathers were ruffled. I've been reading all these notes about the clearances, and I think people are going off on some weird tangents. They're looking for things that aren't there. I was really just trying to warn people to understand what they are looking for before starting their research. If people are looking for "Clearance Ships", for instance, they are likely to be disappointed. They're the people I was addressing. Bruce > From: "Edbld" <[email protected]> > Reply-To: [email protected] > Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 14:56:49 -0400 > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [SCTCDN] {SCTCDN] Re: Scottish Clearances > Resent-From: [email protected] > Resent-Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 12:55:59 -0600 > > Hi Bruce, and thanks for the correction. I had intended to send that > directly to Malcolm, but see by checking back now that it went back to the > list. > My reply wasn't worded very well, and the intent certainly was not to ruffle > any feathers with the ethnic vs religious comment. > > Edd Sinnett

Hi Bruce, and thanks for the correction. I had intended to send that directly to Malcolm, but see by checking back now that it went back to the list. My reply wasn't worded very well, and the intent certainly was not to ruffle any feathers with the ethnic vs religious comment. Edd Sinnett ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bruce K McGill" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 1:39 PM Subject: Re: [SCTCDN] {SCTCDN] Re: Scottish Clearances > Excuse me, but the term is "The Highland Clearances", not "Scottish > Clearances". And it was ethnic, not religious. Those affected were the > Highlanders of both Scotland and Ireland, as opposed to the Lowlanders of > either place. > > Aside from all that, however, it was the Clan Chieftains who were doing the > clearing. It was purely economic. The farms were no longer profitable. Sheep > were very profitable, but they didn't need a lot of people to tend them. > > The heads of the clans had long ago been given hereditary titles, and had > moved off the land. The peasants were loyal to the clan, the chiefs didn't > even know who the peasants were. > > Bruce > > > > From: "Edbld" <[email protected]> > > Reply-To: [email protected] > > Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 12:40:28 -0400 > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: [SCTCDN] {SCTCDN] Re: Scottish Clearances > > Resent-From: [email protected] > > Resent-Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 10:47:16 -0600 > > > > Hi Malcolm: > > I agree with you, as that comment bothered me also. > > I felt that the individual that posted that e-mail was implying that the > > "ethnic" was of the RC's being expelled from the land, and not the lower > > class farmers etc. > > Let's face it Scotland was basically a Catholic country originally as was > > England. > > Edd Sinnett > > > ==== SCOTS-IN-CANADA Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe: [email protected] inserting the word unsubscribe in both the subject line and the text area and using a fresh email to do it. Use -D- if you are in Digest mode. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Here is a link to the Highland Clearances and more about Scotland. Christine http://www.chebucto.ns.ca/Heritage/FSCNS/Scots_NS/Hty_Sct/Hty_Sct.html

Hello again Larry, I made a mistake in my last mail Hugh McPherson my G G Grandfather died in April 1871 not 1781 as I said, and he was the last member of my family living in Craignish Parish Argyll,he in fact died just a few weeks after the 1871 census of Craignish 508/1 parish was taken he is buried at Kirkton chapel burial ground Craignish with his first wife Annabella livingstone and a couple of their children. Jim _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx

Received messages below from David, since these messages were sent he has had complete computer failure. Christine Hullo Everyone. My computer is scheduled for some major repair work - a replacement power unit just for starters and maybe a new hard drive, and at the moment, is in a very delicate condition so may give out on me at any time. I'm therefore taking steps to ensure you all are "looked after". I did try using a web based email program to allow me access, but at the snail's pace it worked at I cannot see that as viable. Please keep your fingers crossed as I rush through burning backups before it is too late. Re: Chery'ls topic concerning length of messages, and the concept of clutter. I know that at times it isn't of any great value to leave a pile of previous messages in one's reply but I also bear in mind the value of threads for new members just joining. So, as a compromise, I'd like to see a maximum of 3 messages kept (assuming they aren't epistles! in which case cut back) and snip the rest. Let's please try that and see how things go. Also, REMEMBER subject lines!!!! In general terms, I get a tad annoyed with impatience and intolerance, and where that affects Lists, that in some people's view, they "haven't the time". My response to that is simple. Either make the time or do without, but make your own priority list. Also, while we may have a driving ambition to find our ancestors, for the great majority on here, we are doing this as a hobby - it's not a profession. We all have our own particular search interests but they are, on a List, no more important than the next person's. If anyone chooses to reply to this, you have my blessing to snip this whole message! Thanks, David. I think my machine just suffered another "heart attack", had a freeze so am leaving it for a moment to see if it recovers.

Hi Malcolm: I agree with you, as that comment bothered me also. I felt that the individual that posted that e-mail was implying that the "ethnic" was of the RC's being expelled from the land, and not the lower class farmers etc. Let's face it Scotland was basically a Catholic country originally as was England. Edd Sinnett ----- Original Message ----- From: "Malcolm Shaw" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 9:38 AM Subject: [SCTCDN] {SCTCDN] Re: Scottish Clearances > Good Morning All; > > To say that the Highland Clearances was "ethnic cleansing" is to put the wrong slant on this despicable event in Scottish history. "Ethnic cleansing" indicates the eradication of one ethnic race by and for the benefit of a different ethnic race. In the case of the Clearances it was a case of Scottish landowners eliminating Scottish peasants - not the same thing really. More likely it was "greed" as well as being a very sad case of "man's inhumanity to man". > > I have a book "The Highland Clearances" by John Prebble, published in 1963. At pages 250 & 264 it refers top Col. John Gordon,(as well as South Uist and Benbecula), as being a ruthless person. This is an excellent book on the subject (if it is still available, the pages of my copy are yellowing) and it is some time since I read it. It is a worthwhile addition to one's library. I would be glad to do look-ups in it if anyone has a question. > > The title page of the book has the quotation "Since you have preferred sheep to men, let sheep defend you". > > Have a good day > > Malcolm Shaw, Calgary, Alberta > > > > > ==== SCOTS-IN-CANADA Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe: [email protected] inserting the word unsubscribe in both the subject line and the text area and using a fresh email to do it. Use -D- if you are in Digest mode. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Excuse me, but the term is "The Highland Clearances", not "Scottish Clearances". And it was ethnic, not religious. Those affected were the Highlanders of both Scotland and Ireland, as opposed to the Lowlanders of either place. Aside from all that, however, it was the Clan Chieftains who were doing the clearing. It was purely economic. The farms were no longer profitable. Sheep were very profitable, but they didn't need a lot of people to tend them. The heads of the clans had long ago been given hereditary titles, and had moved off the land. The peasants were loyal to the clan, the chiefs didn't even know who the peasants were. Bruce > From: "Edbld" <[email protected]> > Reply-To: [email protected] > Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 12:40:28 -0400 > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [SCTCDN] {SCTCDN] Re: Scottish Clearances > Resent-From: [email protected] > Resent-Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 10:47:16 -0600 > > Hi Malcolm: > I agree with you, as that comment bothered me also. > I felt that the individual that posted that e-mail was implying that the > "ethnic" was of the RC's being expelled from the land, and not the lower > class farmers etc. > Let's face it Scotland was basically a Catholic country originally as was > England. > Edd Sinnett

Sir: If your book is indexed, perhaps you may see if any of the name MacArthur, McArthur, or McArtor were transported. Thank you for your kindness. Aye, Bob McArtor ----- Original Message ----- From: "Malcolm Shaw" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 9:38 AM Subject: [SCTCDN] {SCTCDN] Re: Scottish Clearances > Good Morning All; > > To say that the Highland Clearances was "ethnic cleansing" is to put the wrong slant on this despicable event in Scottish history. "Ethnic cleansing" indicates the eradication of one ethnic race by and for the benefit of a different ethnic race. In the case of the Clearances it was a case of Scottish landowners eliminating Scottish peasants - not the same thing really. More likely it was "greed" as well as being a very sad case of "man's inhumanity to man". > > I have a book "The Highland Clearances" by John Prebble, published in 1963. At pages 250 & 264 it refers top Col. John Gordon,(as well as South Uist and Benbecula), as being a ruthless person. This is an excellent book on the subject (if it is still available, the pages of my copy are yellowing) and it is some time since I read it. It is a worthwhile addition to one's library. I would be glad to do look-ups in it if anyone has a question. > > The title page of the book has the quotation "Since you have preferred sheep to men, let sheep defend you". > > Have a good day > > Malcolm Shaw, Calgary, Alberta > > > > > ==== SCOTS-IN-CANADA Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe: [email protected] inserting the word unsubscribe in both the subject line and the text area and using a fresh email to do it. Use -D- if you are in Digest mode. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Hello Larry, nice to hear from another McPherson researcher, I don't know if we are related as I have'nt found any McPherson links to North America I am named James from my mothers Smith side of the family Archibald is my most common McPherson christian name with Hugh,Donald, Malcolm,Lachlan,John in the male line and Flora, Annabella, Marion, Euphemia being common on the female line. My roots go back to Craignish Parish Mid Argyll in 1758 the last member living there being my G G Grandfather Hugh McPherson who died in 1781, I would like to know where his second wife and children from his second marriage went after his death they were Christian Muir and 6 children Christian born Craignish C 1850, Annabella 2/12/1852,John C 1854, Alexander McIntosh McPherson 27/4/1856, Hugh 12/11/1858, and Janet 17/9/1861 I suspect they emigrated but don't know where too as I can find no further trace in Scotland since Hughs death in 1881.I am descended from Hugh McPherson's first marriage to Annabella Livingstone of Inveraray they married in Craignish in 1819 she died in 1845 their children were Euphemia 2/12/1821, Sarah 2/12/1821, Janet 17/2/1822, Flora 17/6/1824, Archibald my Great Grandfather 21/11/1827/ Margaret 16/6/1833,Malcolm 25/7/1835, Lachlan 27/3./1838 all Craignish. Our McPhersons in oral tradition came from Isle of Mull and I have looked for them there to no avail, supposedly they may have come from Boisdale, South Uist before that as McPherson is not a common name in Mull and Lord MacDonald of Boisdale, South Uist transplanted Uist people on Mull circa 1700 some of whom were McPhersons, they then went onto the Argyll Main land eventually settling in Glasgow. Are you a member of the Clan Macpherson Association see < www.clan-macpherson.org > ? Jimmy McPherson Stirling.Scotland _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com

Good Morning All; To say that the Highland Clearances was "ethnic cleansing" is to put the wrong slant on this despicable event in Scottish history. "Ethnic cleansing" indicates the eradication of one ethnic race by and for the benefit of a different ethnic race. In the case of the Clearances it was a case of Scottish landowners eliminating Scottish peasants - not the same thing really. More likely it was "greed" as well as being a very sad case of "man's inhumanity to man". I have a book "The Highland Clearances" by John Prebble, published in 1963. At pages 250 & 264 it refers top Col. John Gordon,(as well as South Uist and Benbecula), as being a ruthless person. This is an excellent book on the subject (if it is still available, the pages of my copy are yellowing) and it is some time since I read it. It is a worthwhile addition to one's library. I would be glad to do look-ups in it if anyone has a question. The title page of the book has the quotation "Since you have preferred sheep to men, let sheep defend you". Have a good day Malcolm Shaw, Calgary, Alberta

Hi, Christine... Just wanted to say thank you so much for the Great Lakes link. My husband and I sat for quite a while learning all about the ships and history on the Great Lakes. We found some interesting pointers from the research part of the website that might give us some clues to things in his family history. Even if nothing comes of it, we now have background for what it was like in the shipping industry in that area. Also, the URL you sent a while ago for The Global Gazette gave us some excellent research areas we hadn't tried yet and which will help us in possibly locating some missing information. Both of these websites have links to other informative sites that may help us a great deal, too. Thanks for all the help you provide to the list, and the extra links you send...always very much appreciated! Diana Kansas, USA

Think we had a thread recently that was about how census takers write how they hear things, here is a perfect example! Christine ================ Genealogists who fret over spelling variations of the same surname may enjoy the following which is purported to be a "real" letter sent from a census taker in the 1800s to the government: "Centsus rekurds- I am a cencus taker for the city of Bufflow. Our city has groan very fast in resent years and now, in 1870, it has becum a hard and time consooming job to count all the peephill. Thare is not meny that can do this werk, as it is necesarie to have a ejucashun, which a lot of pursons still do not have. Another atribeart needed for this job is good speling, for meny of the peephill to be caounted can hardle speek inglish, let alone spel there name."

----- Original Message ----- From: "Malcolm Paterson" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> > Hi Malcolm and Cheryl, It is a super idea though, I know I for one am very guilty of forgetting to cut out message I am replying to......I need reminded from time to time.....so thanks... Cheers Christine > > > > > ==== SCOTS-IN-CANADA Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe: [email protected] inserting the word unsubscribe in both the subject line and the text area and using a fresh >