Hi folks, Is there anyone on this list from or near Port Alberni? On behalf of an Aussie pal, I need information from a tombstone in the Greenwood Municipal Cemetery on Beaver Creek Road in Port Alberni. The name is Willam F. Hastie, born Cambuslang, Scotland, d 20 June 1938(section M) and James Hastie, (section L). I hope someone out there in Lotus Land can be of assistance! Thanks, Karen.....in sunny Ontario

Greetings All. I have just returned home from a town hall meeting held by my MP, James Moore. During his question period I asked for and received confirmation of his support for access to Historic Census Records. This is but one means by which we can find out our MPs position on access while Parliament is in summer recess. Another is to make an appointment with them and meet with them at their constituency office. Check the Scoreboard for their position before making an appointment so that you know what to ask them. He mentioned one thing that I have hopes he was in error. Parliament is due to resume sitting in September. Mr. Moore said there is a rumour that Chretien may delay resumption until some time in October when the Queen is due to visit Canada, so that she could give the Speech from the Throne. Happy Hunting. Gordon A. Watts [email protected] Co-Chair, Canada Census Committee Port Coquitlam, BC http://globalgenealogy.com/Census en français http://globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index_f.htm Permission to forward without notice is granted.

Hello Listers, I have lost some relatives who have been mentioned as going to Canada & would love to make contact. Siblings of my fathers grandfather who's parents were Kenneth McLENNAN & Isabella MACKENZIE of Ross-shire, Contin,Dingwall & Inverness & lastly Glasgow. William McLENNAN born 1840 his sister Janet/Jessie born 1843 & was her mothers companion till end of 1876, then next we receive photographs of her from Ontario. We do not know if she married after her mothers death or possibly travelled out to her brother William. Then their nephew Kenneth son of their youngest brother Alexander. Ken was born in 1869 in Inverness but spent his young life in Glasgow & Barrow in Furness, said to have stowed away on a ship to Canada. Any relatives out there. Barbara Stirling

I would appreciate with anyone who can trace their ancestry back to Foula. Peter C. Turner [email protected] _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com

Hello Everyone, I am looking for information on a bother, sister and their father (mother unknown at this time): Richard Percival Black (b. 11-07-1861 or 66), stated Vienna and also London City as birth place on different papers filed at different times. He first stated b. 1861 in Vienna on naturalization forms, and b. 1866 at a later date on other naturalization papers and gave London, Ontario as birth place. He left Ontario in 1886 to come to the U.S. Lived in Minnesota, then to New York and became a doctor, and then moved to Maine over a period of time. Annie Black his sister (b. 11-30-1870) in Ontario, married Frederick Soper (b. 06-06-1867) born in Ontario. Found them in London City, Ontario 1901 Census. No children that I know of. Their father I am told is Malcolm Black (possibly A. middle initial), from Scotland. His family was in Davidson Clan (so I have been told, not verified). This is all I know of my grandfather and great-grandfather. Any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thank you, Judy (San Diego, Cal.)

Hi List, Someone on the list was asking for hints on where someone could search in Scotland for Genealogy........I have a word document that my brother sent me that may be helpful......it does relater to MCKINNON's of Skye.....but I would be glad to send it if the person emails me....... Linda U.E.

My Uncle is planning a ten day trip to Scotland later this year for family research. He is going to a genealogy center in Edinburgh. Does anyone have any other suggestions that will help him? I appreciate any help you can give me. Thanks, Joyce Ames Hoxsey Researching in Glasgow McKenzie (Donald, Duncan, Dan, James, John, Wm) in Dundee Cathro (Peter, Alexander) in St. Boswell Hill (James, Thomas, David) in St. Boswell Bryden, Kyle __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Sign up for SBC Yahoo! Dial - First Month Free http://sbc.yahoo.com

Looking for information on ancestors Descendants Euphemia Stark Riddock(b abt 1910 ? Lanarkshire, Sct) who migrated to Canada and married George Porath. ?Ontario, Canada. Many thanks Neville Riddock Melbourne, Victoria, Australia http://www.tribalpages.com/tribes/nevjr

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Greetings All. To date we have seen a number of responses from Statistics Canada that refuse our ATI requests for access to the 1906 Census of the Western Provinces. It appears that many of these responses make no mention that the $5.00 application fee will be returned even though your request has been refused. Be advised that the assessment of fees, including the application fee, are also subject to complaint to the Information Commission. If you receive no indication that your application fee will be refunded, be sure to include that in your letter of complaint to the Information Commissioner. Happy Hunting. Gordon A. Watts [email protected] Co-Chair, Canada Census Committee Port Coquitlam, BC http://globalgenealogy.com/Census en français http://globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index_f.htm Permission to forward without notice is granted.

Just heard about a dig going on of the Soldier Garrison or fort on Victoria Park Road. Can someone tell me about this. I understand that a Harris Family near the Fort, married 3 to 4 of their daughters to members of the British Garrison. Is there a list somewhere of the soldiers of this British Garrison? Could someone forward it to me? Who were the Harris Daughters who married the soldiers? Who were the Parents of the Harris Daughters? Where does Victoria Park Road go to? Uxbridge? Any help would be appreciated as I think my husband is a descendant of one of the Harris Daughters!

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Interested in hearing from any descendants of BRABNER( BRABINER/ BRABANER/ BRABINDER/ BRABONER/BRAIBNER) from Newburgh, Fifeshire, Scotland. My 2 x G Grandfather was Hugh BRABNER b. Edinburgh 1834 son of Andrew BRABNER b.Newburgh 1803 and Mary STEELE. Andrew had a second marriage to Catherine FINNIE. Hugh was in the coachbuilding business and had an elder brother John (m. Eleanor TOPPING) in the same business and possibly brothers Andrew and David. Hugh emigrated to New Zealand and I believe some relatives may have emigrated to Canada. Judith

Greetings All. This is not the normal type of posting that you have come to expect from me. It has nothing to do with our Census Campaign. In our capacities as Co-chairs of the Canada Census Campaign Muriel and I frequently receive requests for assistance in ways that have nothing to do with our Census campaign.. Some we can help, others we cannot. This message is one attempt to help someone. The following information regards a request from Australia for someone seeking a relative in Canada that does not know she has family. If the information provided below rings any bells with anyone, or you can provide information advising her how to proceed, please contact Lynne Hall-Cavanagh directly at [email protected] . The following letter was sent to Muriel 26 June 2002. Happy Hunting. Gordon A. Watts [email protected] Co-Chair, Canada Census Committee Port Coquitlam, BC http://globalgenealogy.com/Census en français http://globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index_f.htm Permission to forward without notice is granted. ======================================= Dear Muriel, I read all of your messages here in Australia and admire your tenacity. I do not know your line of work nor your expertise in genealogy but decided to write to you to share our problem and to ask for your advice. SOMEWHERE in Canada we have a very important family BUT THEY DO NOT KNOW ABOUT US and we cannot find them. ANY ADVICE ?? My husband's mother (MARIE) was married in Scotland and had a baby daughter (now almost 60 years old and if still alive living in Canada - at least she was about ten years ago- according to a relative I managed to find in Scotland) MARIE left this marriage and left her daughter (then named Jeanette Anderson Taylor MACDONALD) with her elderly "mother" (recent research has shocked us as we learn that MARIE was adopted into the family). When Jeanette's "grandmother" (MARY) died, she was raised by her "uncle" and his family. She became known as Janette Macdonald BUCHANAN and was a nurse before she married and she and her husband went to CANADA (some time after 1965). They were known as Jan and Russell ELLLIOT. However it seems that Jan left her marriage (no children) and formed a relationship with a man (he may have been a doctor or staff member of the Vancouver hospital) and then had two children Their names were/ are Heather and Cameron and they could be in their thirties by now . JAN (Jeanette) may still be using the surname ELLIOT or any other name. The children may also be ELLIIOT or ??? ( HARRIS was one possibility). Jeanette may believe she is to stay "hidden" from the wicked mother who "abandoned" her (but there is more to the story than this !!) MARIE was in the Army in 1943 and eventually she formed a relationship with another man (my father-in-law) and they had two sons in England (one being my husband). In 1949 they migrated to Australia and all contact was eventually lost with the UK (although MARIE seems to have mentioned Jeanette often she did not tell her other children that she was her daughter). To make the story even more complicated MARIE had two more sons in Australia before leaving her two older sons with their father and taking the two younger ones away to live with another partner for the rest of her life. A daughter was born soon after this move happened. MARIE died in Australia in 1977 and it was only after this that we began to get snippets about Jeanette. I understand that people are hesitant to help people find LIVE people BUT hope you understand our predicament. Having paid people to get certificate details for us and used every research effort that I know of, I managed to locate some of the "adopted" family. One (not so cooperative) cousin heard from Janette about ten years ago and says she has had a hard life and that she was in some form of psychiatric therapy and may now be dead. Knowing what I now know of a very strange story I am not surprised that she would need some therapy. BUT this is the actually my sister-in-law and she does not know that she has family here in Australia who would love to find out if she is okay. While I find the Family Research activity very interesting and addictive, I am certain that locating a person who probably NEEDS to have someone to be related to of far greater importance. I dont often write all the details (names etc) to strangers but have woken early this morning and decided to take a chance on sharing this HUGE BRICK WALL with you IN CASE YOU CAN THINK OF A WAY TO HELP US LOCATE "Jeanette" and/or her children. I send my very best wishes to you for your work re the census release and with whatever other Research you are involved in and hope to hear from you when you find a spare minute. Yours fauthfully, LYNNE HALL-CAVANAGH

Bill, I dont have a great deal of information on the Cruickshanks.The emigrant party in 1835 had three siblings John,Agnes and Isabella Cruickshank .John settled in London Canada. You should be able to get a copy of Margaretta's birth certificate and her parents marriage certificate from Scottish Origins Sandy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Cocker" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, July 01, 2002 2:29 AM Subject: Re: [SCTCDN] ARCHIBALD,DEY,MORRISON,MINTO,CRUICKSHANK, from Huntly Aberdeenshire to New Glasgow,Quebec 1834/7 > Sandy: > > This has got nothing t o do with Scots in Canada, other than the fact that > I'm of Scots Descent, and live in Canada. Would you have, somewhere in your > database, a William Cruickshank, Doctor of Medicine, born Circa 1862. He was > married to Mary Cameron, and sometime in 1888 or 1889 they had a child, > Margaretta Cruickshank at Old Maud in Aberdeenshire. Margaretta Cruickshank > married William Ramsay (my maternal grandfather) on the 4th of January 1914 > in Glasgow. I have lots of information on William Ramsay and his line, but > little or nothing on William Cruickshank and Mary Cameron. Are we connected? > > Bill Cocker, Courtenay, B.C., Canada > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Sandy Archibald" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, June 30, 2002 5:51 AM > Subject: [SCTCDN] ARCHIBALD,DEY,MORRISON,MINTO,CRUICKSHANK, from Huntly > Aberdeenshire to New Glasgow,Quebec 1834/7 > > > > The above families who are all inter-related emigrated together > and settled around New Glasgow Terrebonne Quebec around 1837.Later they > spread across North America. > > Alexander Archibald b 12 nov 1799 at Huntly died 6 April 1881 at > New Glasgow married Helen(Ellen) Troup at Huntly 20 Dec 1823.She died aged > 81 -29 Oct 1878 at New Glasgow. > > They had at least four children:Margaret b 11 Oct 1824,John b 24 > Mar 1827 and Isobel b 25 b Jun 1830 all at Huntly > > William b 15 Jun 1842 > at New Glasgow married Marion Morrison 4 Jul 1865 at New Glasgow > > Alexander's half brother James Dey b 3 May 1805 d 2 Jun 1874 > married Isabella Cruickshank at Huntly 1829.There were 17 children some born > in Huntly most born in New Glasgow > > > > I am a descendant of Alexander Archibald's brother John and have > been tracing the Archibald line with some success.I have received > significant data on the Dey line from their descendants > > I suspect that many of my ancestors who went missing throughout > the 19th century followed their relatives to North America and I am > interested to find out what happened to all of them > > I will be happy to share information > > Sandy Archibald > > Edinburgh > > > > > > > >

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Greetings All. FYI. I copy the following update on California's effort to close vital records from Eastman's Online Genealogy Newsletter. While this information pertains to California it is symptomatic of an increasing number of problems that genealogists everywhere are facing under the guise of protecting individual privacy. Happy Hunting. Gordon A. Watts [email protected] Co-Chair, Canada Census Committee Port Coquitlam, BC http://globalgenealogy.com/Census en français http://globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index_f.htm ============================ - Update: California Vital Record Closures In the May 20, 2002 edition of this newsletter, I wrote about the threat to close California records that are vital to genealogists researching ancestors in that state. That article reported the efforts of the California State Genealogical Alliance and other organizations to keep these records open. The Alliance asked genealogists to write to the California legislators. The response from that appeal was overwhelming, and the bill was put on hold at that time. Now some legislators are going to try again. This time they are moving on very short notice, perhaps in an effort to "sneak it through" before the opposing groups notice. The bill has been changed, so you may want to read it again. Genealogists are specifically targeted in the bill as we are not included in the list of people who can now have access, although even private investigators can see the records. The following alert is from Iris Carter Jones, California State Genealogical Alliance Legislative Coordinator: ACTION ALERT: URGENT ACTION NEEDED IN CALIFORNIA! ACCESS TO BIRTH INDEX UNDER ATTACK! TELL CALIFORNIA STATE ASSEMBLY JUDICIARY COMMITTEE MEMBERS: VOTE NO ON SB1614! PRESERVE PUBLIC ACCESS TO CALIFORNIA BIRTH AND DEATH INDICES. SB1614 was passed by the California Senate and will now be heard by the California State Assembly Judiciary Committee on MONDAY, JULY 1st. This bill is trying to zip through under the radar, and must be derailed NOW. Please call, fax, and e-mail ALL MEMBERS OF THE CALIFORNIA STATE ASSEMBLY JUDICIARY COMMITTEE TODAY and urge a DO NOT PASS vote on SB1614. Fax and e-mail should be sent by FRIDAY, JUNE 28th. The bill, sponsored by Senator Jackie Speier, seeks to remove California's birth and death indices from the public domain, where they have been generally available to the public since 1905. The passage of this bill will transform a century of public information into closely guarded state secrets. SB1614 would foster secrecy in government. Citizens would no longer be able to access government-held, public information on their own histories and identities. This bill would create a right of confidentiality that has never before existed. The birth and death indexes are not and have never been personally owned, confidential information; they are and have always been public records. SB1614 seeks to reverse a century-long free flow of public information by placing the use of both indexes back under strict government regulation. The birth and death indices are used extensively for genealogical and historical research, population studies, public health queries and public policy research. SB1614 will do little to help the problem it was intended to address - identity theft. According to the First Amendment Coalition, most identity theft occurs through the literal theft of mail, purses, and wallets by friends, relatives, neighbors, and strangers - not through use of the birth and death indices. SUMMARY OF SB1614 1. This bill would remove the comprehensive birth and death indices from protection of the California Public Records Act. Instead, it would make the indices confidential information - except to government agencies. 2. This bill would prohibit a government agency from selling or releasing these indices. This bill would also prohibit specified businesses and individuals, who legally purchased the indices from the State prior to December 31, 2001, from releasing and sharing with others. The bill authorizes a civil penalty to enforce this prohibition. 3. This bill would require the State Registrar to establish a separate, NON comprehensive electronic birth and death indices, available for public inspection at county recorders' offices statewide and at the office of the State Registrar. The information to be included in the non comprehensive indices will be determined by the State Registrar. No printing will be allowed at these special computer terminals. Individuals who wish to view the non comprehensive birth or death index must certify, UNDER PENALTY OF PERJURY, that the information they view will not be used for criminal purposes. 4. This bill would permit the release of SPECIFIED personal information to financial institutions and consumer credit reporting agencies, for the sole purpose of determining if the person whose information is being released is still living. Read the full text at: http://info.sen.ca.gov/pub/bill/sen/sb_1601-1650/sb_1614_bill_20020625_a mended_asm.html Please share this information with any lists you are on. * * * CONTACT INFORMATION * * * Send one copy of your letter to the Judiciary Committee and one to each committee member. California State Assembly Judiciary Committee 1020 N Street, Room 104 Sacramento, CA, 95814 Fax: (916) 319-2188 E-mail: [email protected] Ellen M. Corbett (Chair) State Capitol Sacramento, CA 94249-0001 Phone: (916) 319-2018 Fax: (916) 319-2118 E-mail: [email protected] Tom Harman (Vice-Chair) State Capitol, Room 5158 Sacramento, CA 95814 Phone: (916) 319-2067 Fax: (916) 319-2167 E-mail: [email protected] Patricia C. 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Sandy: This has got nothing t o do with Scots in Canada, other than the fact that I'm of Scots Descent, and live in Canada. Would you have, somewhere in your database, a William Cruickshank, Doctor of Medicine, born Circa 1862. He was married to Mary Cameron, and sometime in 1888 or 1889 they had a child, Margaretta Cruickshank at Old Maud in Aberdeenshire. Margaretta Cruickshank married William Ramsay (my maternal grandfather) on the 4th of January 1914 in Glasgow. I have lots of information on William Ramsay and his line, but little or nothing on William Cruickshank and Mary Cameron. Are we connected? Bill Cocker, Courtenay, B.C., Canada ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sandy Archibald" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, June 30, 2002 5:51 AM Subject: [SCTCDN] ARCHIBALD,DEY,MORRISON,MINTO,CRUICKSHANK, from Huntly Aberdeenshire to New Glasgow,Quebec 1834/7 > The above families who are all inter-related emigrated together and settled around New Glasgow Terrebonne Quebec around 1837.Later they spread across North America. > Alexander Archibald b 12 nov 1799 at Huntly died 6 April 1881 at New Glasgow married Helen(Ellen) Troup at Huntly 20 Dec 1823.She died aged 81 -29 Oct 1878 at New Glasgow. > They had at least four children:Margaret b 11 Oct 1824,John b 24 Mar 1827 and Isobel b 25 b Jun 1830 all at Huntly > William b 15 Jun 1842 at New Glasgow married Marion Morrison 4 Jul 1865 at New Glasgow > Alexander's half brother James Dey b 3 May 1805 d 2 Jun 1874 married Isabella Cruickshank at Huntly 1829.There were 17 children some born in Huntly most born in New Glasgow > > I am a descendant of Alexander Archibald's brother John and have been tracing the Archibald line with some success.I have received significant data on the Dey line from their descendants > I suspect that many of my ancestors who went missing throughout the 19th century followed their relatives to North America and I am interested to find out what happened to all of them > I will be happy to share information > Sandy Archibald > Edinburgh > > >