Does anyone have access to the 1851 ,1861 or 1871 Census. I need some help on the following family. William Black (birth unknown) married Isabella Wright (11/30/1825) July 4th and 11th in both the parish of Hamilton and Dalziel in 1847. The only children I have for them are Agnes 1856, Isabella 1859 Dalziel, William 1861 Dalziel and Margaret 1864 Dalziel. I know they had to have children before 1856 but I cant seem to find them. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks , Karen

----- Original Message ----- From: Greg and Karen Harvey To: Smith-UK-L@Rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2002 12:44 PM Subject: Smiths Does anyone have access to a 1841 or 1851 census that they could possibly do a lookup for me??? Here goes with my Smith line: James Smith married Ann Mitchell in 1845at the parish of Swinton and Simprim, Berwick, Scotland Their children are as follows: Jane 1846 Swinton, James 1848 Preston, Andrew 1850 Prestonhouse, Ann 1852 Prestonhouse, William 1855 Newton, Robert 1857 Bathgate, John 1859 Crofthead, George 1862 Bathgate, David 1864 Bathgate Benjamin 1867 Bathgate, and Thomas 1870 Bathgate. I am at a dead end. The 1861 Census would be useful also. If anything could anyone tell me how to get my hands on any of these Census. I have the 1881. Thanks, Karen

>From: Parfittmargaret@aol.com >Reply-To: SCOTLAND-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com >To: SCOTLAND-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [SCT~ROOTS] Accessing the 1901 census >Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2002 05:46:53 EST >MIME-Version: 1.0 >Received: from [63.92.80.123] by hotmail.com (3.2) with ESMTP id >MHotMailBE2E49DE00AC400431E03F5C507B0E310; Sat, 09 Feb 2002 02:50:10 -0800 >Received: (from slist@localhost)by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id >g19Al1V12742;Sat, 9 Feb 2002 03:47:01 -0700 >From SCOTLAND-ROOTS-L-request@rootsweb.com Sat, 09 Feb 2002 02:52:21 -0800 >Resent-Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2002 03:47:01 -0700 >X-Original-Sender: Parfittmargaret@aol.com Sat Feb 9 03:47:01 2002 >Message-ID: <158.8a5285b.2996581d@aol.com> >Old-To: scotland-roots-l@rootsweb.com >X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows UK sub 10510 >Resent-Message-ID: <abx1MD.A.4GD.l4PZ8@lists5.rootsweb.com> >Resent-From: SCOTLAND-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com >X-Mailing-List: <SCOTLAND-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com> archive/latest/278 >X-Loop: SCOTLAND-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com >Precedence: list >Resent-Sender: SCOTLAND-ROOTS-L-request@rootsweb.com >Hi Margaret, I can help you out there. I have personally made about 8 trips to the Scots Origins website. I have enjoyed each and every one of them. Each time I go I have found out significant amounts of worthwhile info. It is far and away the fastest and most economical method I have found so far. I originally shied away from it because I thought it would be too difficult or expensive to use. I have found to my delight that the opposite is the case. It cost £6.00 to use the database for a 24 hour session. I have found that the best way to do this is to log on in late afternoon or early evening. That way you get two bites of the cherry as it were. You get the 5-11 pm of the first day and afternoon and evening of the second day as well. That way you can go to work and still have time to access the database. I find two evenings is all I need. You could of course log on at the weekends. The time does run out so you are best preparing any time consuming research chores before hand, so you are not using up valuable site time. The £6.00 buys you 30 page credits. Each page can contain 15 births, or deaths or marriages. So theoretically you could download 450 individual records. In practice it worked out at less than that, but that was partly due to my uncommon surname. The most economical time period to search is the pre-1891 recources. The 1881 census info is the nearest thing to a free lunch on the site. The seach engine has been overhauled and is much better than it was originally. The 1881 census allows you to download a page that contains a an entire household. It is not a scanned page of an actual census but it does only cost one credit.(20p) The 1891 and 1901 census returns do cost more to search but you do get the actual scanned page to download. Each census image from the 1891 and 1901 census cost 5 credits to download (£1.00). You have to be more careful with the later census's obviously. This is still far cheaper than the £2.50 I have seen quoted by people who have been to Register House who had photocopies done of census pages. I would use the pre-1891 resources available to the max to build up a framework and then use this knowledge to decide what you next target should be. I have no knowledge of the English 1901 census so I can't speak about that. I would love to hear other users experience. Grant Muckart Nairn Scotland >Hi, >Could anyone help me understand how to access the 1901 census on-line both >for Scotland and for the rest of the UK? What does use of the census >on-line >cost? I have heard such conflicting information and decided fellow listers >would be able to give me much more accurate information. >Best regards, Margaret, Aberdeen > > >==== SCOTLAND-ROOTS Mailing List ==== >If you would like to be removed from this part of the list, send a message >to the following address: >SCOTLAND-ROOTS-L-request@rootsweb.com >Put the word "unsubscribe" (without the quotation marks) in the >subject line of the message; >ABSOLUTELY NO OTHER TEXT IS TO BE INCLUDED ANYWHERE IN YOUR MESSAGE. >If you don't follow these instructions, you will never be removed from this >list. > GRANT _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx

>From: "Judy Hall" <judo@hypermax.net.au> >Reply-To: SCOTLAND-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com >To: SCOTLAND-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [SCT~ROOTS] ELLIOT/HEWITSON; 1841,51 census? >Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2002 20:18:39 +1000 >MIME-Version: 1.0 >Received: from [63.92.80.123] by hotmail.com (3.2) with ESMTP id >MHotMailBE2E44B5007F400431A33F5C507B12930; Sat, 09 Feb 2002 02:28:09 -0800 >Received: (from slist@localhost)by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id >g19AP3G23005;Sat, 9 Feb 2002 03:25:03 -0700 >From SCOTLAND-ROOTS-L-request@rootsweb.com Sat, 09 Feb 2002 02:29:15 -0800 >Resent-Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2002 03:25:03 -0700 >X-Original-Sender: judo@hypermax.net.au Sat Feb 9 03:25:03 2002 >Old-To: "Sth SCOTLAND newsgroup" <SouthernScotlandGenealogy@egroups.com>, >"SCT ROXBURGH Group" <SCT-ROXBURGH-D@rootsweb.com>, "Scot Roots" ><SCOTLAND-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com>, "Historic Scottish families" ><historicfamiliesofscotland@yahoogroups.com>, "ELLIOT surname newsgroup" ><ELLIOT-D@rootsweb.com>, "BORDERS newsgroup" <BORDER-D@rootsweb.com> >Message-ID: <003f01c1b153$246b53a0$83435eca@m8p5y9> >X-Priority: 3 (Normal) >X-MSMail-Priority: Normal >X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 >Importance: Normal >X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 >Resent-Message-ID: <xPpVMD.A.PnF._jPZ8@lists5.rootsweb.com> >Resent-From: SCOTLAND-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com >X-Mailing-List: <SCOTLAND-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com> archive/latest/277 >X-Loop: SCOTLAND-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com >Precedence: list >Resent-Sender: SCOTLAND-ROOTS-L-request@rootsweb.com >Hi Judy, I have no connection to your Hewitsons that I know of but I noticed your surname is Hall. My great grandfather John Muckart married a Mary Hall in Arbuthnott, in Kincardine, in 1858. She was staying at Little Barras, in Kinneff Parish at the time. Her father was Charles Hall, a Dairyman and her mother was Ann Hall,MS Grant. If your Halls had any connection with Kincardine in the 1800's I would be interested to hear from you. Cheers. Grant Muckart Nairn Scotland >Hi >I'm still trying to track my elusive James ELLIOT married to Ellen HEWITSON >(other versions I'm told at HOTSON, HOATSON) About 1839 their son, William >was born in Castleton, ROX, SCT >Can anyone with the 1841 or 1851 census locate these people for me, please? > >Regards >Judy > > >==== SCOTLAND-ROOTS Mailing List ==== >Use of this list to further your business interests will cost you your >access to the list. > GRANT _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp.

Hi, Could anyone help me understand how to access the 1901 census on-line both for Scotland and for the rest of the UK? What does use of the census on-line cost? I have heard such conflicting information and decided fellow listers would be able to give me much more accurate information. Best regards, Margaret, Aberdeen

Listers, you are amazing! In 24 hours I have received advice and information from all over the globe and I am extremely grateful. Thank you all. Regards, Margaret, Aberdeen, Scotland.

Dear Margaret, Surface man - a person who worked on the surface of a mine. Robyn in Sydney ----- Original Message ----- From: <Parfittmargaret@aol.com> To: <SCOTLAND-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, February 08, 2002 10:22 AM Subject: [SCT~ROOTS] Surfaceman? > Can anyone on the list help with a query? > On the 1881 census for the Highlands, an occupation was identified as a > surfaceman. Has anyone any idea what this might be? > Regards, Margaret, Aberdeen. > > > ==== SCOTLAND-ROOTS Mailing List ==== > Check out the sister sites to this mailing list: > Boards > Localities > United Kingdom and Ireland > Scotland > General > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=board&r=rw&p=localities.britisles.scot land.general > & > Boards>Topics>Immigration>United States>Scottish Immigrants > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=admin.board&r=rw&p=topics.immigration. us.scottish > & > Boards > Localities > United Kingdom and Ireland > General > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=board&r=rw&p=localities.britisles.gene ral > & > Boards > Topics > Cemeteries & Tombstones > Scotland > Cemeteries in Scotland > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=board&r=rw&p=topics.cemetery.scotland. scotland > & > Boards > Topics > Heraldry and Coats of Arms > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=board&r=rw&p=topics.heraldry > >

>From: Parfittmargaret@aol.com >Reply-To: SCOTLAND-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com >To: SCOTLAND-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [SCT~ROOTS] Surfaceman? >Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2002 18:22:47 EST >MIME-Version: 1.0 >Received: from [63.92.80.123] by hotmail.com (3.2) with ESMTP id >MHotMailBE2C57C700A5400431983F5C507B06960; Thu, 07 Feb 2002 15:25:03 -0800 >Received: (from slist@localhost)by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id >g17NMqb04016;Thu, 7 Feb 2002 16:22:52 -0700 >From SCOTLAND-ROOTS-L-request@rootsweb.com Thu, 07 Feb 2002 15:26:47 -0800 >Resent-Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2002 16:22:52 -0700 >X-Original-Sender: Parfittmargaret@aol.com Thu Feb 7 16:22:52 2002 >Message-ID: <169.8750d18.29946647@aol.com> >Old-To: SCT-BANFFSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com, DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY-L@rootsweb.com, >SCT-INVERNESS-L@rootsweb.com, moray-l@rootsweb.com, >scotland-roots-l@rootsweb.com >X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows UK sub 10510 >Resent-Message-ID: <nxcepC.A.j-.MxwY8@lists5.rootsweb.com> >Resent-From: SCOTLAND-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com >X-Mailing-List: <SCOTLAND-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com> archive/latest/272 >X-Loop: SCOTLAND-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com >Precedence: list >Resent-Sender: SCOTLAND-ROOTS-L-request@rootsweb.com >Hi Margaret, The only thing that springs to mind off hand, is that I do know coal mines employed surface workers. Could this be the occupation? I am not sure of how far north coal mines are found in Scotland. Grant Muckart Nairn Scotland >Can anyone on the list help with a query? >On the 1881 census for the Highlands, an occupation was identified as a >surfaceman. Has anyone any idea what this might be? >Regards, Margaret, Aberdeen. > > >==== SCOTLAND-ROOTS Mailing List ==== >Check out the sister sites to this mailing list: >Boards > Localities > United Kingdom and Ireland > Scotland > General >http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=board&r=rw&p=localities.britisles.scotland.general >& >Boards>Topics>Immigration>United States>Scottish Immigrants >http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=admin.board&r=rw&p=topics.immigration.us.scottish >& >Boards > Localities > United Kingdom and Ireland > General >http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=board&r=rw&p=localities.britisles.general >& >Boards > Topics > Cemeteries & Tombstones > Scotland > Cemeteries in >Scotland >http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=board&r=rw&p=topics.cemetery.scotland.scotland >& >Boards > Topics > Heraldry and Coats of Arms >http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=board&r=rw&p=topics.heraldry > GRANT _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com

In a message dated 2/7/2002 3:25:28 PM Pacific Standard Time, Parfittmargaret@aol.com writes: > Can anyone on the list help with a query? > On the 1881 census for the Highlands, an occupation was identified as a > surfaceman. Has anyone any idea what this might be? > A surfaceman was a person who maintained the railroad tracks and rail bed the area where the tracks were laid). Mac

Can anyone on the list help with a query? On the 1881 census for the Highlands, an occupation was identified as a surfaceman. Has anyone any idea what this might be? Regards, Margaret, Aberdeen.

I'm researching Sarah TOPPING 1769-1857,Margaret DONALD b1763 & Peter Greggains (GREGGINS)d1814 father of Julia GREGGAINS 1839-1888. Barrie Sibson, Q'land, Aust sibson@australis.aunz.com

Hi All, I am searching for the origins of my 3gr-grandfather, Daniel LOVE. He came to Dundee, Dalhousie Parish, Restigouche County, New Brunswick, Canada abt. 1852. His eldest son, Alexander, is thought to have been born in Scotland and was nine years old when he came to Canada. He was born abt. 1842. The next son, Charles, was born abt. 1847. Then, James (my great-great-grandfather) was born abt. 1854 and the only known daughter, Mary, was born about 1857. I know nothing of Charles, except that he is listed on the 1861 census for the parish of Dalhousie, NB. Alexander married a woman by the name of Mary Ann BEBEE?/BEEBE?/BECHE?. I have their children. James married Annie DEWAR (b. abt. 1852), daughter of Duncan and Anne KERR of Barney's River, Nova Scotia. Their children: Daniel (1885 - my great-grandfther), Eva, Duncan, Edgar, Elizabeth Ann were all born at Dundee. The only thing I have to go on is Alexander's obituary and the 1861 census. Alexander died in Restigouche Cty in 1922 and his obituary says he was from Scotland and age nine when he came to New Brunswick. It is believed that Daniel's wife was named Elizabeth and that she was born abt. 1814. There is the possibility that Dalhousie Parish was not the original destination of this family; but, I have nothing to show otherwise at this time. It would be great to hear from anyone with any kind of leads, connections, information or suggestions for finding the origins of my family. Other LOVE affiliations include: MILLER, MALCOLM, SULLIVAN, PRATT, DOBSON, TAYLOR (possibly DOW, URQUHART)

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Am looking for information on John Polson/Jane Strachan m 10 July 1798 St Nicholas Aberdeen. My GGrandmother was Suzannah Jane Polson. Have hot a brick wall re parents/siblings etc for John. Any help appreciated Peg R ennazus@hotkey.net.au

Am researching the following families : BIRSE, PETRIE, ANDERSON -- in the Angus area ---- and Arbroath, Dundee (are they located in Angus?)prior to 1810. Any assistance will be greatly appreciated. Regards, Elizabeth (Betty) Hemsley ---Canada

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Hi List, Could anyone please let me have details re. the marriage of Robert Ferguson and Mary Alexander at Logie Pert, Forfar 10/5/1873. We live in Wales and a good friend is descended from the above. She believes that there may be a link with "the" James Matthew Barrie, born Kirriemuir 1860. Does anyone have any information on his family, i.e. parents names, parents marriage, siblings etc. With Thanks, John, Connah's Quay