I am searching for John Alexander McKay born 1810 Parish of Brawl, Halkirk, Caithness Scotland. I have no other information about parents or the ship he sailed to Canada on. In HBC employee records, there are many John A McKays from the same parish and county. Would be more than greatful to find some information on his parents and ship! Honouring my Ancestors, Sarah Queener-Plourde

"Aliases Part 2" Origins Roy, More, M’Lea, McUllie, Riach and Gow are recorded in OPR from at least the 1630s and Privy Council records show four McCollaes from Stratha’an and Glenlivet were put to the horn in 1615. This implies at least a 16th century origin for these patronymics, but their genesis and significance are as yet unexplained. For the Grants and Stuarts they may well denote kinship or affiliation to a particular local landholding family or descent from a historically important ancestor. However, for McPhersons, McIntoshes and Camerons in the gaelic - but non-highland - society east of Spey, patronymics more likely represent specific allegiances within the clan lands. With aliases well-established before 1746, any suggestion that they arose in the aftermath of Culloden is clearly unfounded. Paradoxically, however, the disruption caused by the ’45 may have accelerated the disappearance of patronymics. Of the 90 or so Glenlivet men in the ‘Lists of Rebels’, nearly a quarter were identified by patronymic alone and two others with an alias, yet six Stratha’an McGregors were ‘undisguised’, though still under proscription. (Remarkably, only half of the reputedly 500-strong Kirkmichael, Glenlivet and Glenrinnes contingent in Glenbucket’s Regiment were named in the ‘Lists of Rebels’ and not one of them was executed or transported - in contrast to the appalling penalties exacted on every other regiment of the Jacobite army.) The 1761 Summary of Glenlivet lists the Principal Tacksmen (i.e. senior tenants) and subtenants of the Glenlivet estate. Of course, the high social standing of the Principal Tacksmen meant that their only name-differentiation related to a land holding elsewhere, but six of the subtenants had an alias while many more were identified by patronymic only. Grant 3 alias 9 patronymic 26 total (+ 6 Principal Tacksmen) Stuart 3 alias 9 patronymic 19 total (+ 4 Principal Tacksmen) McPherson 0 alias 5 patronymic 8 total (no Principal Tacksman) Aliases & Patronymics in Summary of Glenlivet, 1761 Alias Period It is clear that until late in the 18th century, alias families were known and acknowledged simply by patronymic, although there would have been implicit community awareness of each specific ‘family’ descent line and its significance. While the first recording of aliases in Invera’an OPR may have been an officious entering of ‘full details’ by a parish clerk not fully conversant with that communal knowledge, the continuation of the practice looks rather like the early emergence of petty bureaucracy. With many patronymics increasingly subordinate to the generic family name by the end of the century, the Catholic Registers may indeed have been the final repository of fast fading communal knowledge. However there is evidence from an old account book and from aliases in Banff Sheriff Court Records that some patronymics were still in colloquial use as late as the 1820s. The account book of a Glenrinnes barley dealer (i.e. whisky smuggler!) records some Glenlivet clients as More and McLea, while a Glenrinnes man and his son were entered variably as McPherson or Garrow. All memory of aliases and patronymics has now been lost except for one 80 year-old who knows only a vague tradition that his Braes ancestors were ‘More’ Stuarts. Patronymics There are two main types of Upper Banffshire patronymic: (i) Genealogical - identifies the progenitor of the line: M’Lea, McRobie, McUllie, McInnes, McArthur, McAndy, McAllister, McPhail, McGurman, Gibbnach, McOmish*, McShewan*, McAdam*, McRitchie*, McGeorge* (Summary of Glenlivet), * possibly only short-duration by-names. These reflect the old-style “genealogical” naming in gaelic society that was still common in early 17th century Stratha’an. Examples from the Privy Council Register of 1613 are John Dow McConeill McEan Rowan (in Innerchebit), Patrick McGaw McEane Galt (in Torren) and Allester McEan Riauche McAgawne (in Fottirletter). (ii) Gaelic descriptive - of a kind usually found as a personal by-name: More [mor] - big Bain [ban] - fair Dow [dhu] - dark Darg [dearg] - red Roy [ruadh] - reddish Bowie [buidh] - yellow Garrow [garbh] - rough Riach [riabhach] - speckled, grizzled Gall, Galt, Gauld [geal, gall] - white, ‘foreigner’(incomer, lowlander) The 17th century examples above show Dow, Galt and Riach being used as personal by-names. Also of gaelic origin are Gow, from gobha, ‘a smith’, Kynach from Coinneach, ‘Kenneth’, and the as yet unexplained Doulle, Arrach and Jay. The McDonald alias of Couper and the Grant aliases of Turner, Miller and Tailzeor (Taylor) appear to be vocational, although the single record of the last suggests that it did not endure. As all Smiths in the RC records were alias Gow and virtually every adult male at that time was either a blacksmith or wright, this was perhaps the most vocational patronymic of all. The Glenlivet Priests The meticulous recording of aliases in the Glenlivet Catholic Baptism Registers was entirely due to Rev. James John Gordon, priest at Tombae from 1812 until 1842, and to Rev. William Dundas at Chapeltown from its opening in 1829 until his death from smallpox in December 1838. There is no obvious reason why the Glenlivet priests should have done so when Rev. Donald Carmichael in Tomintoul did not, especially as the aliases were by then in serious decline. Nor were any aliases recorded by Rev. Gordon’s temporary replacements in 1826 and 1837-8, or Rev. Robert Stuart, his Braes-born eventual successor. Rev. Gordon, a Deeside man and convert to Catholicism, had arrived in Glenlivet from Paisley on 11 October 1812 - perhaps as an incomer he felt impelled to preserve traditional information that was rapidly fading from folk memory. Catholics in the OPR Until emancipation, Catholics were obliged by law to marry in the Established Kirk if they were to preserve their civil and property rights. Thus, many Catholic marriages can be detected in the Invera’an OPR throughout the 18th century, although scarce from the mid-1770s on. Surprisingly however, when reviewing the OPR for aliases, entries were found for many known RC families from the Braes - albeit just a single baptism each. This Kirk baptism of their first-born may have been perceived as some protection against a vengeful Kirk Session and the known oppressiveness of the long-serving mid-century Minister. It was hoped that such single baptisms might be a good indicator of RC families - until they also proved to be very common in Protestant areas! An explanation may lie in the 1783 legislation which imposed a 3 pence duty for registering a baptism. Glenlivet RC Censuses There is now on microfilm in Elgin Library Glenlivet Status Animarum (‘State of Souls’), a recently ‘discovered’ manuscript volume whose existence was previously unknown outwith the RC Church. It contains an 1814 census of the entire Catholic community of Glenlivet and Glenrinnes that adds substantially to the information in the Baptism Registers. It also has partial censuses for 1822 and 1834, with a few notes on conversions and deaths. Unlike other Catholic congregations such as Tomintoul, where the status animarum is merely a closely-written, undifferentiated list of names that fills a page or two of the Baptism Register, those for Glenlivet are formally laid out like a national census. By farmtoun and croft, it lists the members of each Catholic household with their family relationships, often quoting ages but less frequently giving occupations. There are occasional insertions of a birth or death date, while for several families, the note “husband/wife Prot.” replaces a spouse name. A small manuscript book Chapeltown Obituaries is also on the microfilm. Summary of Glenlivet This large manuscript volume dated 1761 details the acreages of cornland and pasture for each major holding with its subdivisions and, more importantly, lists the Principal Tacksmen (i.e. main tenants) and the Subtenants of Subsetts (subdivisions of the main tack). The acreages are repeated in the 1774 folio Generall Plan of Glenlivet, a collection of plans showing the arable land and habitations on each of the six Daughs (or divisions) of the Glenlivet estate, with the shealing and peat casting areas identified. An additional ‘New Lands’ plan has vignettes of a dozen farmsteads which, though ostensibly ‘lately taken in to Corn land off the pasture’, from other evidence now appear to have been brought under cultivation around 1720. Gow Manuscript In 1873, John Gow alias Smith wrote this 66-page reminiscence of his life and the people he had known in his youth. Born on the farm of Easter Gaulrig, Braes of Stratha’an, early in the 19th century, he had walked to Dundee as a young man, found work and learnt to read and write, returning to Stratha’an in old age. An appendix to the manuscript listing the 300 or so people who had been living in the Braes of Stratha’an in his youth is now believed from other sources to relate to the 1820s. A page of the manuscript is reproduced in Gregor Willox The Warlock by Richard E McGregor (ANESFHS, 1995). The Sources and where to find them Tomintoul, Glenlivet RC Bapt. Registers - microfilm: Elgin Library, SRO Glenlivet RC Censuses 1814, 1822, 1834 and Chapeltown Obituaries - microfilm: Elgin Library only Gow MS Appendix (1873) - SRO; transcript: ANEFHS, Elgin Library Summary of Glenlivet (1761) - SRO; photocopy: Elgin Library; transcript (Tacksmen etc): ANEFHS Generall Plan of Glenlivet (1774) - SRO; photocopies (A0): Elgin Library redrawn (A4): ANEFHS, Elgin Library Account Books of Donald McPherson - Mr George McPherson, Boharm. Footnote This article is a DIY-reply to my still unanswered Journal query (57/18) two years ago, requesting information about these aliases.......... S Mitchell No. 3195

This article was forwarded to me a few months back ,by the writer Stuart Mitchell ,Scotland . With his permission Im able to pass it on. J.McComb-S.California HIDDEN FAMILIES - ALIASES AND PATRONYMICS IN UPPER BANFFSHIRE Genealogical research in pre-1855 Upper Banffshire can be more frustrating than in most other parts of the North East because of the large RC population. The Invera’an and Kirkmichael OPRs - and hence IGI - are virtually silent about them, so are of little help in tracing Catholic ancestors. Although the RC Baptism Registers for Tomintoul and Glenlivet (Tombae and Chapeltown) contain much of the information that is missing from the OPRs, they are accessible on microfilm only in Elgin Library and the Scottish Record Office. Unfortunately, the respective Registers go back only to 1807 and 1812/1829, then once again the familiar blank wall - or so it seemed until recently. Now, not only do two newly-available sources give additional information about early 19th century RC families, but an unexpected ability to look over that blank wall has been provided by apparently unconnected research. This is an investigation of aliases in highland Banffshire, which although still incomplete has led to the identification of ‘hidden families’ in the 17th and early 18th century OPRs. Aliases An ‘alias’ phenomenon flourished in the Upper Banffshire records for nearly a 100 years after its first appearance in 1740. These aliases were very different from those used by the McGregors of Stratha’an and Upper Deeside (forced by the proscription of their clan to shelter under a Gordon, Grant, or other ‘safe’ name) but no memory of them has survived to the present day. They seem to have had a Catholic dimension, for aliases were meticulously recorded in the Glenlivet RC Registers until 1838, long after they had disappeared elsewhere. Indeed, this was effectively so by 1812 when the Tombae Register starts. Until the RC Registers showed just how many early 19th century ‘alias’ families there were in the Braes of Glenlivet, the aliases in the Invera’an OPR had appeared to be random and of little interest. After that first record on 1st April 1740 (the baptism of James, son of John Miller alias Grant) OPR alias entries became increasingly frequent until the mid-1770s. They then fell away sharply and the last two were recorded in 1794 and 1806. That sudden decline coincided with the disappearance from OPR of baptism records for RC Braes families that signalled the first lifting of Catholic repression in Invera’an. This increases the likelihood of an RC connection for most aliases, as does the very much lower incidence round Protestant Ballindalloch than in the Catholic Braes. RC Baptism Registers Although aliases were particularly prevalent amongst Grants, Stuarts, McPhersons and McDonalds, many of these names were unembellished - one third of Stuart families in the Glenlivet RC Registers 1812-1838 were ‘non-alias’. It quickly became clear that as an alias carried from one generation to the next, defining a specific descent line within the broad family name, it was actually a genealogical patronymic. The children of ‘alias’ families, took the patronymic of their father, never of their mother - a maternal alias was not carried on, even when the father did not have one. While entries in the records usually took the form ‘Family alias Patronymic’ (often entered simply as ‘Family/Patronymic’ without the word ‘alias’), this was occasionally reversed for families such as Turner alias Grant. The majority of the aliases in the Glenlivet RC Records also occur in OPR, though usually as the stand-alone patronymic. Stuart alias More/Moir*; McAllay/M’Lea*; Bain*; Dow*; Gibbnach Grant alias Roy*; McRobie*; Bowie*; Turner*; McArthur; Bain McPherson alias McUlly/McWillie*; Garrow*; McInnes; Gall McIntosh alias Riach* (only two individuals, but common in Kirkmichael) McDonald alias McAllister* Gordon alias McRitchie (single family) Smith alias Gow* (all families) * These also occur in OPR, usually as the stand-alone patronymic. Aliases in the Glenlivet RC Records, 1812-1838 Because of its gaelic origins and environment, the Upper Banffshire patronymic Moir was pronounced ‘more’ not ‘moy-er’, so is not directly related to the well-known lowland Aberdeenshire surname. Aliases in OPR As most of the other aliases in OPR occur only two or three times each, they must represent individual small families - for some of whom it may have been a single-generation by-name not a true patronymic. Only the Mitchell, Cameron and perhaps McKenzie aliases were sufficiently prolific to represent larger groupings - the multiple baptism entries for the Mitchell alias McAndy families in the Ballindalloch area, indicating that they were Protestant (see next page): Stuart alias McGurman, McOmash, Darg (Kirkmichael & Mortlach only) Grant alias Cly, Miller, Tailzeor, McShewan, McAdam, McComish McPherson alias Moir, McOmie (Aberlour), Doulle (Kirkmichael, Mortlach only) Mitchell alias McAndy° (also Invernochty) Cameron alias McPhail°, Bain McPhail alias Gauld McKenzie alias Kynach° Shaw alias Roy McIntosh alias Smith Innes alias Jay Fleming alias Arrach Bayne alias Cuming Grigorach alias McGregor Duff alias McKay McDonald alias Couper ° These occur as both alias and stand-alone patronymic. Aliases Occurring Only in OPR, 1740-1794 Families Revealed While the alias phenomenon helps to rationalise the very many Grant and Stuart families in Glenlivet by splitting them into more manageable patronymic groups, this is a relatively minor benefit. Its real value is in identifying many pre-1740 OPR entries as Grants, Stuarts, McPhersons etc., who had previously been ‘hidden’ behind patronymics. With a few exceptions, most patronymics disappeared in a general resumption of the basic family names at the end of the alias period. Some Grants, McIntoshes and McPhersons chose to retain their patronymic in preference to the family name, but More/Moir and M’Lea vanished except for sporadic records in adjoining parishes like Mortlach and Aberlour. Although superficially there appear to be few aliases in Kirkmichael OPR and the Tomintoul RC Baptism Register (both have still to be surveyed in detail), evidence that they were still quite common in early 19th century Kirkmichael comes from the Appendix to the Gow Manuscript. This shows aliases for a third of the 60 families (300 individuals) resident in the Braes of Stratha’an in the 1820s: Stewart alias More, Bain, Gault Grant alias “Germany” McPherson alias Doole, Bain, More McGregor alias Willox, More, Bain (plus two families of non-alias Riach) Aliases in the Braes of Stratha’an, 1820s (Gow MS) continue-part 2

Does anyone on the list have ancestors by the name of Andrew Davidson or William Davidson who came from Scotland to Maryland in 1716? I found info. in a book by David Dobson - Andrew Davidson- Jacobite- captured at Preston- transported on the ship "Friendship" by Master Mickel Mankin from Liverpool to MD. May 24, 1716- sold to Francis Bullock in MD. William Davidson -tenant of David Lunsden of Cushnie, Aberdeenshire- Jacobite- captured at Preston -transported from Liverpool by Master Mickle Mankin on the ship "Friendship" to MD. or VA. May 24, 1716- sold to Mordecai Moor in MD. - Aug. 20, 1716. Donald Davidson- Jacobite- captured at Preston - transported on the ship "Susanna" from Liverpool to S.C. by Master Thomas Bromhall on May 7, 1716. If anyone has info on the decendants of these men I would be grateful if you would share it with me. I am also looking for any other Davidsons who came to America about 1716-1750. Thanks for your help. Joan

Recently received new information and dates. If any of these names are familiar, let me know. I also have information on other descendants. 1.JOSEPH MCALISTER (b. app. 1820) of Paisley, Renfrenshire County, Scotland. 2.JOHN ANDREW MCALISTER (1841) of Paisley, PA & WA, married to CATHERINE SKELLY. 3. JOHN ANDREW JR. (1868-1960) PA & WA, married to FLORA (?) 4. DANIEL born in PA, died in WA in 1950's 5. KATHRYN ROBERTSON, born in PA, died in Alabama. Married to A.P. Robertson 6. WILLIAM ANDREW b. 1875 in PA, d. 1956 in WA. Married to JESSIE F. (ARMSTRONG) 7. SUSAN GIBSON born in PA, died in WA. Married to Henry Gibson. 8. BARBARA SENEFF born in PA, died in WA. Sue McAlister http://homepages.about.com/tomssue/mcalisterpainterbickhartfamily/ Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.231 / Virus Database: 112 - Release Date: 2/12/01

UNSUBSCRIBE ----- Original Message ----- From: <SCOTLAND-ROOTS-D-request@rootsweb.com> To: <SCOTLAND-ROOTS-D@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2001 3:00 AM Subject: SCOTLAND-ROOTS-D Digest V01 #6

Hello Listers Im looking for the parents of a John McCooam(MacCombie) b.1619 Scotland, m Margaret Wallace, em 1680,d.1710.Parish of Dinagore,Co.Antrim,Diocese of Connor.His son John McComb b.abt. 1650 Scot, Linen draper, lived at Dunturkey,Parrish of Ballymore,Co.Antrim,12 miles N. of Belfast, on farm rented from town d.1732.His son William McComb b.abt 1685 Ireland.m.------ daughter of Robert Wallace of Anni,Co.Monaghan,Ireland.Children:Isabell,Jean,John,Gordon,Robert + Mary.He d.1727,Ballyhone Co.Antrim,leaving children to care for his father. His son John Gordon McComb,b.1717 d. after 1796,m.Jane Gordon,children:Alexander,William,Anne, em.abt 1755.Settled in Albany N.Y. Any info on the parents of the first listed would be greatly appreciated. J.McComb

Greetings All, I am new to this mailing list and live in far away New Zealand. My Interest is finding as much as possible about my BELL line which as far as I can go, originated in Monimail, Fife, Scotland. Should anyone be able to help me further it would be truly appreciated. Information held includes: John BELL, b. c1682 in Monimail, a Tennant Farmer of the Earl of Levin in Leone, in Monimail, near Levin Fife. Spouse not known. He had at least 3 children: Katherine b. 12 November 1702 in Monimail Mathew b. 16 April 1704 in Monimail Andrew, b. in 1705. This person is of my ancestral line and subsequently moved to Airdrie, Lanarkshire. From there, some members of his line moved to Canada, while my branch remained in Airdrie, then Edinburgh, but finally migrated to New Zealand. I am happy to exchange any information that I have, and to help with reasonable New Zealand searches, for those in other parts of the world, looking for any BELLs or their descendants in this country. Dell C. Lansdell Purdie Rotorua NZ d.purdie@clear.net.nz

I am looking for any references to William McIlhagga (or McIlhaggie) b.1819 in Ireland , recorded as a farmer in Greenock after about 1844, married to Agnes Cosh (or McCosh). Thomas McIlhagga b.1868 in Greenock, who married Margaret Galbraith in Liverpool c.1890 and after the birth of daughter Agnes Barbour returned to Scotland, possibly Glasgow. Morag and Sheila (or Shelagh) McIlhagga, probably sisters, who may have lived in the Glasgow area in the first quarter of the 20th Century. Margaret McLean, b.1868, probably in Tobermory, Isle of Mull, who was possibly a twin, and her father, Donald McLean, a mariner. Many thanks. <donald@mcilhagga.net>

Estelle***********Was your grandmother a Elizabeth MacDonald and she married a Lockhart I have a great grandmother who was Esther MacDonald from Scotland (Camwoth) she married a George England Nov 21 1861 and they moved to Cartham (Loggieville) N.B.Canada in early 1800 we believe .I know very little about her side of the family. They had a son Robert England who married a Francies Ann McDonald they were my grandparents. I know very little about her side of the family. Hope this helps and doesn't make things worst. Regards Alice England Thomas ----- Original Message ----- From: Estelle & Richard <rhoward@netinc.ca> To: <SCOTLAND-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, March 19, 2001 4:24 PM Subject: [SCT~ROOTS] Norman LOCKHART of Carnwath I am searching for any information on the LOCKHART line below, especially Alexander MACDONALD LOCKHART. Norman LOCKHART s/o Charles LOCKHART and Elizabeth MACDONALD mar 28 Dec 1805 Phillis (Philadelphia) Barbara MCMURDO d/o John MCMURDOand Jean BLAIR Issue 1. Jane MacNeil Lockhart b 09 Jun 1807 2. Elizabeth Macdonald Lockhart b 27 Jan 1811 3. Philadelphia Macdonald Lockhart b 12 Aug 1812 4. Alexander Macdonald Lockhart b 09 Mar 1814 5. John Innes Crawford Lockhart b 06 Jun 1815 6. Charles George Lockhart b 04 Jun 1818 7. Norman Philip Lockhart b 16 Aug 1820 (Source is Scots Origins and the registration district for them all is Carnwath) I suspect that there is a family link because my gr gr grandmother was Philadelphia Macdonald LOCKHART b 18 Mar 1844 in southern Ontario, Canada 2nd child of Alexander Macdonald LOCKHART and Mary FURRY Her siblings were: Elizabeth Macdonald Lockhart, Jane MacNeil Macdonald Lockhart, Susan Macdonald Lockhart, Mary Amelia Macdonald Lockhart, Norman Macdonald Lockhart, Alexander Macdonald Lockhart, Flora Macdonald Lockhart, John Macdonald Lockhart, Charles Stewart Macdonald Lockhart, Geraldine Ross Macdonald Lockhart, Roland Macdonald Lockhart, Douglas Macdonald Lockhart. Hoping to hear from someone who can clear up this mystery for me. Estelle PRINGLE in the Niagara Peninsula, Ontario, Can. ==== SCOTLAND-ROOTS Mailing List ==== To remove yourself from this list, send one of the following messages: mailto:SCOTLAND-ROOTS-L-request@rootsweb.com?subject=unsubscribe&body=unsubs cribe or mailto:SCOTLAND-ROOTS-D-request@rootsweb.com?subject=unsubscribe&body=unsubs cribe

I too, could use a lookup for JOHN BILLERWELL in the Jedburgh census. A brother, William would be also listed. John's wife was Susan. Any help greatly appreciated.

I am searching for any information on the LOCKHART line below, especially Alexander MACDONALD LOCKHART. Norman LOCKHART s/o Charles LOCKHART and Elizabeth MACDONALD mar 28 Dec 1805 Phillis (Philadelphia) Barbara MCMURDO d/o John MCMURDOand Jean BLAIR Issue 1. Jane MacNeil Lockhart b 09 Jun 1807 2. Elizabeth Macdonald Lockhart b 27 Jan 1811 3. Philadelphia Macdonald� Lockhart b 12 Aug 1812 4. Alexander Macdonald Lockhart b 09 Mar 1814 5. John Innes Crawford Lockhart b 06 Jun 1815 6. Charles George Lockhart b 04 Jun 1818 7. Norman Philip Lockhart b 16 Aug 1820 (Source is Scots Origins and the registration district for them all is Carnwath) I suspect that there is a family link because my gr gr grandmother was Philadelphia Macdonald LOCKHART b 18 Mar 1844 in southern Ontario, Canada� 2nd child of� Alexander Macdonald LOCKHART and Mary FURRY Her siblings were: Elizabeth Macdonald Lockhart, Jane MacNeil Macdonald Lockhart, Susan Macdonald Lockhart, Mary Amelia Macdonald Lockhart,� Norman Macdonald Lockhart, Alexander Macdonald Lockhart, Flora Macdonald Lockhart, John Macdonald Lockhart, Charles Stewart Macdonald Lockhart, Geraldine Ross Macdonald Lockhart, Roland Macdonald Lockhart, Douglas Macdonald Lockhart. Hoping to hear from someone who can clear up this mystery for me. Estelle PRINGLE in the Niagara Peninsula, Ontario, Can. � � �

Have you ever checked out the Franser, and MacDonald in ( Loggieville ) Chatham ) Canada The reason I am suggesting this is I am related to the Franser and MacDonald's there and they originally came from Scotland. Regards Alice England Thomas

Would someone possibly be able to look up the Jedburgh census records for 1891 for me please. I have a Volumn no. 792 Enum Dist. 15 007 which could be a page no. The family is George YOUNG, his wife Isabella, and children Mary, Andrew, William. Thank you if someone can help. Linda Lill

Hello listers, I wonder if anyone has links to the following James FRASER Elisabeth (Elspet)MCDONALD Born Scotland Christened 12 Jun 1834 Elisbeth Born Scotland March 26th, 1833 Married December 1st, 1852 Cromdale Died1866 March 29th. at Limekilns, Cromdale (Inverallan 93.2/4). ploughman, married to Elspet McDonald, aged 36, son of Robert FRASER, farmer, and Isabella (Davidson). Cause of Death - Tubercular Pulmonalis ( TB to you and me). Informant - Robert Fraser, father, Drumuish, Cromdale. Children: 7 ?? (1)Robert Fraser, born 2nd Feb 1854 IGI micro-fiche (2)Mary FRASER (KENDRICK) Born August 6th,1855 Scotland International Genealogical Index Gender: F Birth: 6 Aug 1855 Cromdale And Inverallan And Advie, Inverness Married August 8th, 1889 John George KENDRICK Died June 28th, 1905 (3)Isabell FRASER (URQUHART) Born August 27th, 1857 International Genealogical Index Gender: F Birth: 2 Aug 1857 Cromdale And Inverallan And Advie, Inverness Married June 18th, 1881 Henry URQUHART Died September 3rd, 1901 Charters Towers. 4.Peter FRASER - International Genealogical Index Gender: M Birth: 4 Dec 1859 Cromdale And Inverallan And Advie, Inverness, Scotland 5. Alexander FRASER - International Genealogical Index Gender: M Birth: 26 Dec 1861 Cromdale And Inverallan And Advie, Inverness, Scotland 6. James FRASER - International Genealogical Index Gender: M Birth: 25 Mar 1864 Cromdale And Inverallan And Advie, Inverness, Scotland 7. Elspet FRASER - International Genealogical Index (ELSIE) Gender: F Birth: 26 Mar 1866 Cromdale And Inverallan And Advie, Inverness, Scotland >From the census records in 1861 - 1881 the following story can be pieced together about the James Fraser, Elspet MacDonald family. In 1861, they were found in Wester Limekilns, a farm of 720 acres, to the North West of Granton on Spey. The family at that time consisted of , James Fraser, 32, Farmer, born in Cromdale 1829 Elspet Fraser, 28, Born Cromdale 1833 Mary Fraser, 5, Born Cromdale 1856 Isabella Fraser, 3 Born Cromdale 1858 Peter Fraser, 1 Born Cromdale 1860 The IGI also shows a Robert Fraser b.2nd. Feb. 1854 to James Fraser and Elspet MacDonald. He clearly did not survive to 1861. In 1871, the family consisted thus. Elspet Fraser, Head, Widow 40. Born Cromdale Still at Wester Limekilns. Peter Fraser, Son,11 Born Cromdale James Fraser, Son, 7 Born Cromdale Elsie(Elspet) Fraser, Daughter, 5 Born Cromdale James had died between 1866ish and 1871, Isabella had disappeared and the IGI shows they had an Alexander Fraser b. 26th.December 1861, In 1881 still at Wester Limekilns. Elspet Fraser, Head, Widow, 48 Born Cromdale Mary Stuart, Mother, Annuitant, 76, Born Cromdale James Fraser, Son,Unmarried, 17, Born Cromdale Elsie Fraser, Daughter, 15, Born Cromdale Through the 1881 Census it was revealed how Isabella Fraser from Cromdale came to meet Henry Urquhart of Kilmuir Easter when these two localities are separated by some 60-70 miles. She turned out to be employed as house keeper to an Alexander McDonald, her uncle at a place called Garty in Kilmuir Easter. The household comprised thus. Alexander McDonald, Head, Unmarried, 39, Head Forester, Born Cromdale Lewis Ross, Nephew, Unmarried, 29, House Carpenter Born Cromdale Isabella Fraser, Niece, Unmarried, 23, House Keeper Born Cromdale. I don't how long Isabella had been living with her uncle but she had left her family at 12 or 13 as she wasn't with them in 1871.Henry and Isabella married and emigrated to Australia a few months after the 1881 census was taken.Elspet Fraser must have been a hard woman to have continued farming Wester Limekilns and bring up her family after loosing her husband so young. Perhaps Isabella had to be put to work at a young age to help support the family and what better way than have her work for another member of the family. Isabella FRASER (URQUHART) Henry URQUHART Married: June 18, 1881 Born 1857 ??? Greenock, Lanark, Scotland Henry & Isabel emigrated, S.S. Sir William Wallace, Townsville October 1st, 1881.Shipping file No. 511 Lived at Sandy Creek, between Fetherby and Charters Towers, working on new railway line. Regards from Ian & Pat Walters Burleigh Park Orchid Nursery www.speciesorchids.com Up to date lists sent on request

Do not include the word "request" in the email address to the list. -------- Original Message -------- Subject: tracing famil;y member Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 10:51:14 -0700 From: WALKERTinkerbell@aol.com To: scotland-roots-l-request@rootsweb.com dear sirs iam actually wanting to know if i ihave some ralatives in scotland my grandfather was born in pitlochre in the highlands his name mr, charles gordon he was born late eighteen hundreds he would now be approx, he died between 1950 to 1960 iknow he had a brother but iam sorry but i dont remember him i know his name was douglas my grandfather left and became shorthand teach in leeds but i feel he mus have been trained in scotland also he had a son and daughter the son been my father but as far as we know he was adopted although when he was in 1916 there was no adoption act in force somewhere iin edinburgh theer is a portrait of his son named donald gordon when he was three or four hope you can help thankyou, linda gordon,

I am looking for contacts who are related to any of the siblings of Henry Urquhart son of Alexander and Ann URQUHART. I have a photo of William and his family but no names. Also have full history for Henry Urquhart ( my greatgrandfather) plus photos of his family, but not of his wife Isabella fraser. Anyone recognise any of these ancestors?? Alexander URQUHART Ann SMITH Born December 17th, 1813, Evanton,Kiltearn, Ann Born 1826 Ross And Cromarty Scotland. Sawmiller , cooper. Married March 5th, 1841. Alex and Ann on the 1841 census, lived in Camdon St. Evanton. The census was taken 6/6/1841, three months after they were married. Their ages were Alex - 25( actually 27, rounded to nearest 5), Ann - 15 (actually 17). Alex and Ann had moved from Camdon St. by the 1851 census . The 1891 and 1891 census indexes. The 1881 census show the family still in the Kilmure Easter area, living at Kindace, but there is no sign of Alex. Ann is still alive and living with Andrew ( 36, eldest son) as the head of the house, along with Finlay (18), Margaret (16), Donald (14). Henry (23) was living with his brother William (21) and an Alex Fraser(19, born Kilmuir Easter) at Newmore Sawmill, Rosskeen. In 1891 there is still an Ann Urquhart (66) living in Rosskeen. James was married to a Georgina with two children and living in Tain, Ross and Cromerty (10 miles from Kindace). Died: Alexander actually died in Evanton, the Parish of Kiltearn, the place where he was born. He died on the 13th. October 1868 at the age of 54. The cause of death is recorded as inflammation of the bowels which perhaps in those days was another way of saying he had cancer of the colon. He may have been taken to Evanton by his family for special nursing care before he died. He was described as a "Farmer and Sawmiller", which suggests he may have changed his occupation in the latter years of his life, by doing a bit of crofting. The informant of the death was Andrew Smith, brother in law. His parents were Finlay Urquhart and Catherine Ross. Children: 11 1. Andrew URQUHART. Male. Birth 3 Jul 1844, Kiltearn, Ross and Cromarty, Scotland. 2. Finlay URQUHART. Male . Birth 13 Jul 1846, Kiltearn, Ross and Cromarty, Scotland. 3. Isabella URQUHART. Female. Birth 28th March 1848, Kiltearn, Ross and Cromarty, Scotland. 4. James URQUHART. Male. Christening Birth 18th Oct 1849, Kiltearn, Ross and Cromarty, Scotland. 1881 census James was married to a Georgina with two children and living in Tain, Ross and Cromerty (10 miles from Kindace). 5. Alexander URQUHART. Male. Christening, 30 Oct 1851, Kiltearn, Ross and Cromarty, Scotland. 6. John URQUHART. Male. Birth 3 Dec 1855 Kilmuir-easter, Ross and Cromarty, Scotland. 7. Henry URQUHART Male. Birth 28th Nov 1857, Kilmuir-easter, Ross and Cromarty, Scotland Died 1932 Mitcham, Victoria after illness. A family version suggests he took his polio victim son Harry to Melbourne for treatment, which apparently did not succeed. 8. William URQUHART Male. Birth 5 Jan 1860, Kilmuir-easter, Ross and Cromarty, Scotland 9. Finlay URQUHART Male. Birth 25th April 1862, Kilmuir-easter, Ross and Cromarty, Scotland 10. Margaret URQUHART Female. Birth 2nd August 1864, Ross keen, Ross and Cromary, Scotland. 11. Donald URQUHART Male. Birth 18th Jun 1866, Kilmuir-easter, Ross and Cromarty, Scotland Henry James URQUHART Isabella FRASER Henry & Isabel emigrated, S.S. Sir William Wallace, Townsville October 1st, 1881.Shipping file No 511. Married: June 18, 1881 Isabella Born August 2nd, 1857 Grantown, Scotland. Wester Limekilns, Cromdale Scotland. Isabella Died: September 30th, 1901 Charters Towers. Father; James Fraser (farmer) Mother: Elspet (Elisabeth) McDonald Regards from Ian & Pat Walters Burleigh Park Orchid Nursery www.speciesorchids.com Up to date lists sent on request

Hello, I am new to the list. I am looking for information On Thomas Percy(Persie) Born abt. 1810 in I think Muirkirk, Ayr, Scotland, married September 09, 1830 to Agnes Muir b. unknown, Ayr, Scotland. I am looking for the Parents and siblings of both of these people, Also the ir birthdates. any help would be greatly appreciated. Thses are my 2X great grand parents. Thank You, Rhonda Richards What lies behind us and what lies ahead of us are tiny matters compared to what lies within us. Oliver Wendell Holmes

I am new to the list and would like information regarding David Halliburton who immigrated to Virginia from Scotland in 1746. Any and all information would be appreciated (County of origin, sites and sources for further inquiry, living descendants, etc.). Regards, Elma Clamp California 1 David HALLIBURTON, Sr.1 ‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹ Birth: ca 1727, Scotland1 Death: 1767, Orange County, North Carolina1 David Halliburton, a native of Scotland, had a rich heritage of seven hundred years of Halliburton tradition which included generations of Border clan activity in a lusty period of Scottich and English history. (His rapid accumulation of land in America would indicate that he was industrious and not without means.) As a young man, possibly as a student, he came to the shores of Colonial America in 1746 as a direct result of the dispersion of a large segment of the population of Scotland by the Duke of Cumberland, who had been hired by the English to subdue the Scots. He located on Little Stone Creek in Mecklenburg County, Virginia. He continued his residence in Virginia until after the birth of his son William in 1760. Sometime thereafter, he conveyed his Virginia plantation home to Richard Ragsdale for the consideration of 125 pounds, and moved his family to Orange County in the Province of North Carolina. David, Sr. died in 1767, and in his will of January 3, 1767, he named each of his sons , David, Jr., John Charles, William and Thomas. He also made alternate plans for his unborn child, bequeathing 100 acres of land if the child should be a boy.1 Spouse: Amey Humphries1 Marr: ca 1752, Virginia1 Children: Charles (ca1758-1797) David (1753-1843) John (-1843) William (1760-1847) Thomas (1763-1843) Margaret (1767-) --

>From my father's mother's side of the family, my Great Grandparents came from Stonehaven, Scotland with their nine children on the Castalia in 1863 to New Brunswick, Canada. Their names were WILLIAN DUNCAN (born 1829 Dalhaikie Farm, Kincardine O'Neil, Aberdeenshire, Scotland and ELIZABETH LINTON (born December 12, 1831 Dunnottar Parish, Stonehaven, Aberdeenshire, Scotland) William's parents were WILLIAM and ANNA RAE and Elizabeth's paernts were DAVID and MARGARET {PARKS} LINTON. Margaret died and David remarried ISABELLA ROBB October 5, 1851. >From my father's father's side of the family, my Great Grandparents also came from Stonehaven, Scotland with their nine children on the same ship. Their names were CHARLES CHAPMAN (born in Fetteresso, Kindardine, Scotland on May 20, 1818) and CATHARINE (COUTTS) CHAPMAN (born Glenmuick, Aberdeen, Scotland in 1823). Charles Chapman's parents were Charles Chapman (born 1782 in Ury) and Mary Wood. Catharine's parents were James Coutts and Janet Lamond. I would love to correspond with anyone having any information on these families. A sister to William Duncan, Barbara stayed in Scotland and it was said that she had a niece in Glasgow named Anna Abel. Thank you. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com