Hello lister's This Is Kevin again and I am still trying to knock over my brick wall so here It goes. I have as my oldest person traced in my line as Joshua Miller unknown yrs of birth & death. His eldest son Joshua Miller born circa 1779 married  Elizabeth circa 1799, Elizabeth was born circa 1784, Joshua d: 11 Nov. 1851. Joshua & Elizabeth had the following children: John M. Miller (unknown years for him)  Elisha Miller (unknown years for him) Anna Miller (unknown years for her)       Phoebe Miller (unknown years for her) Robert Miller b: circa 1801                  Hannah Miller b: circa 1802 Jacob Miller b: circa 1807                   Luton Miller b: April 1809 d: 7/7/1884 Laura B. Miller b: circa 1819 d: 5/4/1896 Joshua was also married to a Rachel they had three children: William Shannon Miller he was born in Markham York Co Ontario Canada 1823. Sarah Miller she was born in Markham York Co Ontario Canada 1825. David Fitzallen Miller was born in Markham York Co Ontario Canada 1832. Joshua Miller SR. Other son Jacob Miller born circa 1786 d: 28.Oct. 1869. He was married to Phoebe Gould and this couple had 16 children as follows: Avery Miller (unknown yrs for him)       Jacob Miller (unknown yrs for him) Alfred Miller (unknown yrs for him)      Mary Miller (unknown yrs for her) Robert Miller (unknown yrs for him)     Abel Miller 1821-1879 circa John Miller (unknown yrs for him)        Warren Miller circa 1825 Martha Miller (unknown yrs for her)    Elijah Miller (unknown yrs for him) Nancy Miller (unknown yrs for her)       Lorinda Miller (unknown yrs for her) Nathon Miller (unknown yrs for him)     Hyram Miller (unknown yrs for him) Joshua Miller (unknown yrs for him). Those are Jacob & Phoebe's children some of these I do have some speculated yrs on so if they look familiar please inquire with me. From what information I have I know my Miller's were from Scotland and I am almost sure that Joshua, Sr. was probably born in Scotland just unsure of where. I also believe that Joshua & Jacob could have been born there to, there is info that also states they were in the Erie Co. NY area around 1801. And then from there they went to the Niagara Falls area then on to settle in Markham twp. York Co. by abt. 1804. Then some of them moved to Genesse Co. Michigan. Michigan is where I am from Midland Co. Michigan. Well, I hope this info trigger's something for someone out there in list land, & thank you in advance for taking the time to read through all of this & any help. Kevin Miller Coleman MI