Del, thanks for the link to your site. You may want to check out my pages. I need to do some updating, but from my main page go to the alpha list and look for Paisley under "P" There's been heavy on [email protected] re: the weavers. Are you on it? YOu could check the archives. Marge Jodoin, Seattle, WA [email protected] http://www.geocities.com/mjjodoin/