Hi All Trying to find a birthdate for an ancestor before 1855 is hard work! Especially when you live 10,000 miles from Scotland, like I do ... we maybe *retired* this doesn't mean you are well off. I Thank ALL who gave me clues on how to try to trace my Silversmith ancestor ...... haven't heard anything but days are early, yet.......... Might go dig some soil and plant daisies ............ Janelle Canberra, Australia aurora@dynamite.com.au Researching: Davie, Halliday, Taylor, Barr, Campbell, Menzies