Hello, Lucille, I have been looking for my Adam/Adams relations for a year now, you are right, they are like John Smith's here in the States. I am awaiting a reply from a gentlman who wrote me, I ''think'' he has what I need. If you could give me some info on you Adam's I will try and corrolate what I have, if there seems to be a link. Sincerely, Jean Nichols jjnichols@capecod.net ----- Original Message ----- From: Lucille A Richmond <cwrichmond@snet.net> To: <SCOTLAND-GENWEB-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, September 27, 1999 1:31 PM Subject: Re: Would appreciate a suggestion. > Thank you, Edward; it's a fascinating study. Have been looking for our > James Adams' ancestors for several years now; just discovered his > participation in the Battle of Dunbar about 8 years ago, but I've been told > that looking for Adamses in Scotland is like looking for John Smith in the > U.S. > > Thanks so much for your explanation. > > Lucille (Adams) Richmond > > -----Original Message----- > From: Edward Andrews <edward.andrews@btinternet.com> > To: SCOTLAND-GENWEB-L@rootsweb.com <SCOTLAND-GENWEB-L@rootsweb.com> > Date: Monday, September 27, 1999 8:54 AM > Subject: Re: Would appreciate a suggestion. > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: BaggyGenes <bagygenz@napanet.net> > >To: <SCOTLAND-GENWEB-L@rootsweb.com> > >Sent: Monday, September 27, 1999 3:30 AM > >Subject: Re: Would appreciate a suggestion. > > > > > >> Hi Edward -- Would you happen to know where one might obtain prisoner's > >lists > >> from Dunbar and Worcester? There are several other researchers who have > >been > >> trying to locate such lists, without much luck. There's evidently one > >ship's > >> list for Worcester prisoners online but nothing else. Would prisoners > >have > >> been listed in Scotland, or in England? What ports were used to send > them > >to > >> the colonies? > >> > >> Any help most appreciated. > >> > >> Judy > > > > Think about it. Americans are still looking for MIAs from Viet Nam, and > >after WW2 there was a lot of work which had to be done in trying to locate > >displaced persons. > > 350 years ago there was not the same interest in records, and people would > >not have been thinking in the possibility of people coming behind having > any > >interest in the people. > > The armies which fought were not full time. People either turned up or > were > >made to turn up and marched off. > > Luck would be the essence of the game. A piece of paper survives, or > >someone copies a list into a journal which survives. > > The reason why, until recently, history has been the story of the great > and > >famous is because the only sources which existed in profusion are about the > >great and famous. We may well know all about the guy who had his head > >chopped off in the Tower, and not even have the names of a dozen who were > >hanged at Tyburn. > > You ask would the prisoners have been listed in Scotland or England. Think > >about it. The 13,000 of the Scottish army - a Scotland which was being > >garrisoned by English troops marched south. 2,000 were killed and 10,000 > >made prisoner. What lists would there be in Scotland? Muster lists. > Scotland > >was however undergoing military occupation. Towns were being besieged. The > >Scottish records were captured in Stirling, the Honours of Scotland (Crown > >Jewels) narrowly escaped the same, and the records were taken down to > >London. The ship sank which was bringing them back. > > In England there might be a list. At what stage would it be taken? by the > >NCO who was at the capture - he probably couldn't write, and hadn't paper > >handy. The gaoler when they got to a building? > > The answer is that they would probably only be listed when they were told > >off for deportation. Fortunately, I believe that there is a record of them > >(or at least a partial record of them) and I think that it is published > >somewhere. It is however not my subject and I only know a very little about > >records of interest to Americans > > The amazing thing is not that there are so few records of that time, but > >that there are so many. To get at them however you have to be actually > >looking at places like the PRO. Some is published, some has been > transcribed > >and not published. Some turn up in Private collections. There is very > little > >on the net. It is really an area where if you want to get anywhere new, you > >need > >professional support. > > > > People comment about how difficult it is to trace people on this side of > >the pond. Generally speaking your records are better kept. There are also > >more public records which have survived. There is also much more interest > in > >genealogy in America than there is on this side of the pond. > > You now see why it is important to have an understanding of history and > the > >society about which you are working. > > Edward Andrews > > > > > > > >St. Nicholas Buccleuch Parish Church Dalkeith, Midlothian, Scotland > >Visit our Web site > http://www.btinternet.com/~stnicholas.buccleuch/index.htm > > > > > > > > > > > >==== SCOTLAND-GENWEB Mailing List ==== > >Scottish Universities > >Their Libraries & Archives > >http://www.ozemail.com.au/~jimjar/jimjargg.htm > > > >============================== > >Search the Social Security Death Index online for FREE! > >http://ssdi.genealogy.rootsweb.com/ > >The most powerful SSDI search engine on the Internet! > > > > > ==== SCOTLAND-GENWEB Mailing List ==== > For Scotland history..... > http://members.aol.com/Skyelander/timeline.html > > ============================== > Support free genealogy on the Internet! Join RootsWeb.com today! >