HI, I've just learned that some of you are having trouble with the URL link I sent for GenConnect, so here it is in longhand, Ha. http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/qindex.html Some networks promise, but cannot deliver. Jackie

Hi, Here is a site that may be of interest to you that are searching for places in Scotland, especially for Shires ( Counties). It would be of help as an alternative to go to for additional help in genealogy research. Hope this Helps, Jackie <A HREF="http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/qindex.html">GenConnect</A>

This is what is stated in the Resource Guide on "Finding and IGI Source" F--; T96--; T998--; T9990--; and All-digit (such as 8434961) - These are from a submitted form (Family Group Record, Individual Entry or Marriage Entry) Microfilms are located int the US/CAN collection in the Library and can be ordered by family history centers. Find the batch number on the film. Forms are arranged numerically by the batch number plus the serial/sheet number. If there is a three- or four-digit sheet number (e.g., 0215), divide it by 3 to get the approximate two-digit sheet number (e.g.,72) to look for. (Batches that start with "01--" to "23--" were submitted to an international names processing site, may be in native language, and may not be available on microfilm.) For most other forms, the first two digits of the batch number are the last two digits of the year the form was submitted; for example, "8434961" was submitted in 1984. You may request a photocopy. The submitter's name and address may be outdated. F-- Batches: Check the forms to understand the data. Some information is estimated or added and may be different from what you expect. T96-- Batches: This is a correction of an existing record. I hope this helps. Janene

Thank you Forrest and Cecil for the information on the Royal Highlanders. Sandra Cowan Slade from Newfoundland

----- Original Message ----- From: Colon <colon@nac.net> To: <SCOTLAND-GENWEB-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, September 13, 1999 10:40 PM Subject: Need Help with IGI Records Sorry Pat, Can only suggest ordering in the original film for the parish and checking the entry. Tom > Hi Jessie & Tom, > > > Did the record actually say born in 1841. Sounds like it is a > christening > > date, and all were christened either together, or at least in the same > year. > > Yes, the records did say "Birth", not "Christening". > > Got any other ideas?? > > Regards, > > Pat >

While on the subject of copying old photographs, if they are sepia-toned, use a color printer. They come out extremely well compared to those copies done in black and white.

Have no note of a Christian Taylor born in Monquhitter on this date, but there is a marriage of a Christian Taylor to Alexander CLYNE at Monquhitter in 1777. On the IGI there is a Christian Taylor born to Alexander Taylor at Fraserburgh - which is some distance away from Monquhitter - in 1788. Would be interested to learn more about Alexander Taylor, general merchant. My husband's ancestors came from Monquhitter parish. Marina >His daughter Christian was born Monquhitter Parish 1788, Alexander said to >be a general Merchant. Is anyone else researching this family ?. >Christians' Mother was said to be Janet Cheyne, but no record of a marr. >Mary >legarthm@levin.pl.net >

Joe, I understand how James feels and I am willing to share my inormation and let him decide for himself. You might want to look up a site: http://www.hambleton.gov.uk/ I have worked with two different researchers in Scotland. They can find no record of a "shire". There was Hambleton. I have not had time to do more research on this.Hambleton District is between North York Moors to East and Yorkshire Dales to the West. There are graves located at St. Andrews, Upper Hambleton in Scotland. I have not researched them yet. Hambleton may at some time in the past been a major town in a parish. Another point to be reseasrched. >From another researcher in Scotland, I received the following info: Hambleton in Lancashire and another in N. Yorkshire, both in England. Mr. Arthur suggested that the family could have moved from England to Scotland. Probably Lancashire as it is on the coast and Perth is near the Firth of Tay. There was a big expansion of weaving in Perth aty this time in history and the Industrial Revolution in Britain was moving from agriculture to becoming industrialized. Robert's father was a weaver. Again, I have not had the time to research this farther. . Do you know that Robert M. Bissett's parents were John weaver in West Church Parish of Perth and Jean/Jane Moncrieff, daughter of Robert Moncrieff,weaver from Pomarium. They married May, 1815 in the Saint Paul's Church Parish Perth by Reverend John Findlay, Minister. Let me hear from you soon. Sammye From: Joe Bissett <jbissett@txdirect.net> To: SCOTLAND-GENWEB-L@rootsweb.com <SCOTLAND-GENWEB-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Tuesday, September 14, 1999 5:17 AM Subject: Re: Hambletonshire??? >Hi Sammye, > >I talked to James BISSETT about this yesterday. He actually visited >Scotland and says that he saw a sign with this name. He insisted that the >location is at/near Edinburgh, but he would not insist that the name he saw >actually ended in 'shire'. If we can properly source the line I'm sure he >would accept your analysis and work. I did some preliminary IGI look-ups >on line with very limited success. Where did you get your information, and >could you send it to me so I don't waste time duplicating your work? :-) > >Do you want the stuff he sent me and what I've dug up? I can scan it in >and e-mail it to you. It's not that much work. > >Regards, Joe > >At 10:29 AM 09/13/1999 -0700, you wrote: >>Joe, >> That is incorrect. He was from Perth,Scotland. Was born in Perth. If >>he is same as our Robert I have record of his baptism. I also >>researched the Hambletonshire. >>Sammye Baker >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Joe Bissett <jbissett@txdirect.net> >>To: SCOTLAND-GENWEB-L@rootsweb.com <SCOTLAND-GENWEB-L@rootsweb.com> >>Date: Sunday, September 12, 1999 8:51 AM >>Subject: Hambletonshire??? >> >> >>>A contact here in San Antonio lists his ancestor as Robert W. >>BISSET(T) >>>from Hambletonshire, Scotland. I've done the searches, and the >>closest I >>>can come is Hamilton near Glasgow. Does anyone have any ideas? >>> >>>Regards, Joe >>> >>> >>>==== SCOTLAND-GENWEB Mailing List ==== >>>For up to date info, try: >>>http://www.scotland.net/ >>> >>>============================== >>>Search the Social Security Death Index online for FREE! >>>http://ssdi.genealogy.rootsweb.com/ >>>The most powerful SSDI search engine on the Internet! >>> >>> >> >> >>==== SCOTLAND-GENWEB Mailing List ==== >>Documentation....The hardest >>part of genealogy. >> >>============================== >>Support free genealogy on the Internet! Join RootsWeb.com today! >> >> >> > > >==== SCOTLAND-GENWEB Mailing List ==== >Beware of the Genealogy Bug; >It's bite can be addictive! > >============================== >Support free genealogy on the Internet! Join RootsWeb.com today! >

Regarding all the births in 1841--was the film you looked at an OPR film--original parish record? or a film of the IGI submission? I have two experiences: An OPR listing from Kilwinning which shows the last 6 children of my Ritchie family baptised in 1848 (at least a decade after the youngest was born), but it does list the individual birth dates. This appeared to me to be a late posted note added to the register for both the record and nostalgia (the family lost their home in bankruptcy after living in the village 200 years and had moved in 1842). Most children had been baptised shortly after birth in the same church. It was a mystery to me why these had not--unless it had to do with accompanied fees the father was unable to pay at the time (he was well off before disaster hit, so this seems unlikely). I pulled another film on an american family which turned out to be a submission film and it listed a few births from Maine and then about 6 of the youngest born at a date in Oregon City. This turned out to be erroneous on several counts once I located original documentation. In your instance I would look for census data in 1841 or 1851 to backup the information. I suspect if it is the parish record, even if it says "born" it is a mass entry for some unknown reason (new arrivals perhaps, previously unrecorded) and may just indicate born prior to 1841. If it is not the parish record, it may be a best guess error by the submitter. M.J. Jodoin, Seattle, WA, USA mjjodoin@webtv.net http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Meadows/5209/index.html

Maybe they knew the right dates for their direct line relative and had only heard about the others and didn't have any idea what order. Just wanted them noted in case someone else would be able to fill in ........ Maybe???? Carolyn Sutton.

To all who wondered about the IGI codes. Sorry, but I have to disagree with some of the suggestions about abbreviations on the IGI. I have my microfiche reader sitting here by my computer and I put an IGI fiche in the reader and copied verbatim the codes that appear at the bottom of each frame on the fiche. I am submitting those codes again. I have personally never seen an entry with A or F, but obviously the LDS library must have felt the need for those codes. A= Adult christening known child B= Birth C= Christening D= Death or Burial F= Birth or Christening of First All other miscellaneous M= Marriage N= Census W= Will This code appears at the bottom of each frame on the IGI microfiche. As you can see F does not stand for female. And M is not for male, but for marriage. Logical assumption that F and M would be for sex of the person, but not so on the IGI microfiche. Mary Inglis

Hi Sammye, I talked to James BISSETT about this yesterday. He actually visited Scotland and says that he saw a sign with this name. He insisted that the location is at/near Edinburgh, but he would not insist that the name he saw actually ended in 'shire'. If we can properly source the line I'm sure he would accept your analysis and work. I did some preliminary IGI look-ups on line with very limited success. Where did you get your information, and could you send it to me so I don't waste time duplicating your work? :-) Do you want the stuff he sent me and what I've dug up? I can scan it in and e-mail it to you. It's not that much work. Regards, Joe At 10:29 AM 09/13/1999 -0700, you wrote: >Joe, > That is incorrect. He was from Perth,Scotland. Was born in Perth. If >he is same as our Robert I have record of his baptism. I also >researched the Hambletonshire. >Sammye Baker >-----Original Message----- >From: Joe Bissett <jbissett@txdirect.net> >To: SCOTLAND-GENWEB-L@rootsweb.com <SCOTLAND-GENWEB-L@rootsweb.com> >Date: Sunday, September 12, 1999 8:51 AM >Subject: Hambletonshire??? > > >>A contact here in San Antonio lists his ancestor as Robert W. >BISSET(T) >>from Hambletonshire, Scotland. I've done the searches, and the >closest I >>can come is Hamilton near Glasgow. Does anyone have any ideas? >> >>Regards, Joe >> >> >>==== SCOTLAND-GENWEB Mailing List ==== >>For up to date info, try: >>http://www.scotland.net/ >> >>============================== >>Search the Social Security Death Index online for FREE! >>http://ssdi.genealogy.rootsweb.com/ >>The most powerful SSDI search engine on the Internet! >> >> > > >==== SCOTLAND-GENWEB Mailing List ==== >Documentation....The hardest >part of genealogy. > >============================== >Support free genealogy on the Internet! Join RootsWeb.com today! > > >

Hello, Alec: I heard from Toni who said she was using her computer at work when she sent that message, and at her work they have to have that footer on all messages. I can understand that, but thought I'd best check before forwarding her message. She said it was OK and thanked me for checking. Message has been forwarded. Lucille -----Original Message----- From: Alec Cameron <acameron@hinet.net.au> To: SCOTLAND-GENWEB-L@rootsweb.com <SCOTLAND-GENWEB-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Tuesday, September 14, 1999 12:45 AM Subject: 1. F,C,B tags on IGI events 2. Address line, footer at end of emails >1. Judy wrote here and got lotsa replies..... > >> I don't remember seeing a B for birth, only C for Christening and M for >> marriage. I still can't figure out what the F is for. > >Using the IGI can be so exciting that we may forget to read the column >headings, and Instructions. A fiche numbered IGI 20001 provides the >clues. It is suppplied with each fiche set. > >F and M are for female, male >C is christening, B is birth >FR is Frame Number and is commonly seen in the OPR Index but NOT on the >IGI. On fiche, the OPR <looks> like the IGI but it ain't ;~) >============================= >2. Lucille queried the long message footer used on an email from Toni I >think. A very long one it was, containing > >> >The information contained in this transmission is confidential. It >> >may also be legally privileged. > >The unwanted receipt of that text costs us collectively a mint of money, >and causes the ISPs and phone companies to Smile All the Way to the >Bank!! > >If you have a long footer for reason of trade etc, then as a rule you >may crop this while still in the Message Composition Screen. But we do >forget sometimes, yes?!! > >Cheers......... > >-- >ALISTAIR M. CAMERON, A.A.G.R.A. also known as ALEC > **My Ancestral File No. is TO4M-WJ** > >Consultant at Mittagong Family History Centre, and trading >as CAMERON RESEARCH, Reg. with N.S.W. Dept of Fair Trading. > >P.O. Box 215 BUNDANOON N.S.W. 2578 AUSTRALIA > > > >==== SCOTLAND-GENWEB Mailing List ==== >For up to date info, try: >http://www.scotland.net/ > >============================== >Search the Social Security Death Index online for FREE! >http://ssdi.genealogy.rootsweb.com/ >The most powerful SSDI search engine on the Internet! >

Hello Scotland List, Time to repost my surname interests for new subscribers:- SNEDDON/ SNEDDAN- , Glasgow, LKS, SCT. All dates. MCGEE/MCGHEE-Paisley, RFW, SCT and Glasgow, LKS, SCT-All Dates. ROBERTSON and LEARMONTH/LEARMONT/ LAMONT and CRAWFORD and AGNEW -Paisley, RFW, SCT-All Dates. Annie Stuart. billannieliam@ozemail.com.au

His daughter Christian was born Monquhitter Parish 1788, Alexander said to be a general Merchant. Is anyone else researching this family ?. Christians' Mother was said to be Janet Cheyne, but no record of a marr. Mary legarthm@levin.pl.net

Hi Jessie & Tom, > Did the record actually say born in 1841. Sounds like it is a > christening > date, and all were christened either together, or at least in the same > year. Yes, the records did say "Birth", not "Christening". Got any other ideas?? Regards, Pat

You might try Kinko's COLOR laser printer also; even black-and-white photos are improved with gradations of grey and "olive." I have used the color copier for old photos needing enlargement in order to create a suitable copy for framing and preservation. Mary Ellen (Douglass) Newsom [jusfrens@mediaone.net] "Eileen@j51.com" wrote: > I went to Office Depot (office supplies store in US) this > morning. I experimented with the copy machine to get the > best copies of old photos of Scotland from the library book > I mentioned last week. I got some fairly decent copies, but > nothing spectacular. > The assistant manager saw what I was doing, and offered to > try one on the laser copier. WOW!! She enlarged all > copies (straight from the book) to 9" X 12" on the laser > copier, and what a difference. The pictures look almost > 3-D. I can see faces at windows! > I highly recommend the laser printer. I intend to return > with some old photos, and see how they enlarge. > Regular copies cost 5 cents each, and the laser copy costs > 99 cents. > > Eileen Herkes > > ==== SCOTLAND-GENWEB Mailing List ==== > GENUKI -Main Scotland Page > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/sct/ > > ============================== > Support free genealogy on the Internet! Join RootsWeb.com today!

Don't know if anyone answered you but here goes -In the army reforms of 1881,the 42nd Regiment became the 1st Battalion The Black Watch (Royal Highlanders) and it was linked with the 73rd (Perthshire) Regiment which became the 2nd battalion.So if you are looking for the Royal Highlanders, look at the Black Watch.Hope this helps. "S. Slade" wrote: > When doing my research I came across reference to The Royal Highlanders but > am unable to find anything on The Royal Highlander, anyone out there got any > hints. > > ==== SCOTLAND-GENWEB Mailing List ==== > Genealogy Help List > http://posom.com/hl/ > > ============================== > Support free genealogy on the Internet! Join RootsWeb.com today!

Alistair: I just have to mention I looked about my reference books and I think you nick name-Skeock stand for Wild Mustard or a underhanded way of obtaining something! Now you tell me if you know anything of Lizzie Geetz? That was my nick name! Cheers Jani

Can you help this person? From:Sharon Shier <sshier@cadvision.com> Does anyone know if there is a pub in Edinburgh called the Black House?? thanks, Sharon