George, Thanks so much for the postage info, never knew you could buy UK stamps here in the US. Thanks Again :-) Kate

In a message dated 9/16/99 4:27:15 AM EST, SCOTLAND-GENWEB-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: > Subject: RE: Postage > Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > Where are you, Kate? From here in the US, I can go to my local post office > to buy an air mail stamp for sending things to Scotland. While there I can > purchase what's called an "International Reply Coupon" to send to anyone who > needs to return a letter to me. > > Best of luck! > > Audrey Ann Bennett > Audrey_Ann@msn.com > Bellevue, WA USA > It is possible to buy British stamps thru the mail in the USA. This spring I sent out 12 letters trying to find some "living" Wellwood relatives in Scotland. Instead of using the International Reply Coupon, which have to be exchanged at the post office, I enclosed a SASE with a 63p stamp. I was surprised to received a response from 8 people which included 2 phone calls from Scotland. I purchased the British stamps from Interpost in New York (516 295 2722). There were 4 63p stamps and 4 Air Mail labels in each book. The stamps were $1.15 @ plus a $2.00 shipping fee, so the 20 stamps cost me $25.00. The 63p stamp allows you to send (from the UK) letters up to 20g to anywhere in the world by air mail. I was able to use my credit card. George Purvis Euclid Ohio

Date sent: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 22:40:30 -0700 From: Colon <colon@nac.net> To: SCOTLAND-GENWEB-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Need Help with IGI Records > Hi Jessie & Tom, > > > Did the record actually say born in 1841. Sounds like it is a > christening > > date, and all were christened either together, or at least in the same > year. > > Yes, the records did say "Birth", not "Christening". > > Got any other ideas?? > > Regards, > > Pat > > ______________________________ ** Missed the start of this due to holidays, but I recently noticed a whole family of children listed in 1841. The child born then had been listed with an exact date of birth, then the other previous children listed by name, without dates. As a result, they all appeared in the IGI as born on that date! The only answer is to read the actual entry in the OPR microfilm. Gordon. ****************************** Gordon Johnson, Aberdeen, Scotland. KinHelp - historical surname searches & genealogical services: http://www.web-ecosse.com/genes/genes2.htm Home page (+ Scottish material)- http://www.ifb.co.uk/~kinman/ ******************************

Brownshiel doesn't appear on my map although there is a Brothershields B. (Burn?) which flows into the River Tyne which goes through Haddington. ... and there is a Blackshields. It does seem this may be a farm. I had hoped someone at present in the area would appear to help you. Maybe if you provided more data we could say where to look next. ( I say we because I'm sure someone out there knows more). Meantime I'll try my nephew - too busy for genealogy - but he lives in Haddington and may know. Jim McArthur

Audrey.... thank you for the postage info, that is what I needed to know. Thanks Again, Kate Thanks to everyone else who responded to my query.

Where are you, Kate? From here in the US, I can go to my local post office to buy an air mail stamp for sending things to Scotland. While there I can purchase what's called an "International Reply Coupon" to send to anyone who needs to return a letter to me. Best of luck! Audrey Ann Bennett Audrey_Ann@msn.com Bellevue, WA USA > -----Original Message----- > From: KateSarah1@aol.com [mailto:KateSarah1@aol.com] > Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 1999 9:09 PM > To: SCOTLAND-GENWEB-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Postage > > > Hello Group, > I am so sorry to ask this again since it was discussed not > very long ago. Someone had mentioned how to go about sending a stamped > address envelope to Scotland, at least I think it was this group, > if so could > you please tell me again. > Thanks very much, > Kate > > > ==== SCOTLAND-GENWEB Mailing List ==== > Think BEFORE you post ! > > ============================== > Support free genealogy on the Internet! Join RootsWeb.com today! > >

-----Original Message----- From: Alison Davies <adavies64@home.com> To: SCOTLAND <SCOTLAND-GENWEB-D-Request@rootsweb.com> Date: September 15, 1999 4:57 PM Subject: Pollock and Neilson >Looking for any information or the descendants of David Pollock and >Elizabeth Neilson. >David Pollock, weaver born c. 1782 married Elizabeth Neilson born c. 1786, >December 6 1807, Barony. >Their children were: >Janet Dec 18 1808 >Lewis Aug 12 1810 >Elizabeth April 3 1812 >Mary Ann Feb 1 1814 >John Feb 101 816 >Margaret Feb 8 1818 >David June 5 1820 >Isabella April 26 1822 >Magdalene June 19 1826 >James Oct 9 1827 >Sophia November 5 1831 married John Anderson May 18 1858 > >Thanks Al >

April Campbell wrote: <snip> >I hoping that some kind person(s) out in internet world will take pity on me >and give me a little bit of advice. >I am looking for information on my gg grandfather, Malcolm Arthur Campbell. >Malcolm came to Canada sometime after 1841 as I have a letter from a Rev. >Robert Finlayson of Stornaway stating that Malcolm was there in 1841. It >reads like a letter of recommendation, any ideas? April, here is something that you may want to tuck away for later in your research. A while back I went to the local cemetery here in Newfoundland and wrote down any MI's of people buried here that were natives of Scotland and there was a Campbell among them: In memory of Neil Campbell a native of Rothesay Scotland died July 10,1891 aged 56 years; James Smith b. May 5 1866 - d. Nov. 3, 1868; Isabel Finlay b. Feb. 12 1872 - d. Sep 5, 1872; Archibald McVigar b. Sept. 5, 1878 - Feb. 1, 1879; Neil b. Dec 11, 1879 - d. Aug 15, 1880; Hugh Syme b. Jan 5, 1882 - d. Oct 2, 1882; Finlay McNeil b. Dec. 11, 1880 - d. May 21, 1890. Children of Neil and Mary Campbell. Happy hunting, Sandra Cowan Slade from Newfoundland

Hello Group, I am so sorry to ask this again since it was discussed not very long ago. Someone had mentioned how to go about sending a stamped address envelope to Scotland, at least I think it was this group, if so could you please tell me again. Thanks very much, Kate

Cynthia, I am related to McLellan's from Scotland who settled in Maitland, Nova Scotia. One was a Presbyterian minister, should you find out you are looking for the same people contact me and I will give you what I have. Sandy from Ontario. SCOTLAND-GENWEB-D-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > Subject: > > SCOTLAND-GENWEB-D Digest Volume 99 : Issue 514 > > Today's Topics: > #1 Re: IGI data ["L. Bousbaine" <wayland@hotmail.co] > #2 George Murray SIMPSON, b. 1895 Kei [Pat Rossi <grossi@ozemail.com.au>] > #3 Re: Francis RAE & Jean SAUNDERSON ["Wilson" <dwilson@xcelco.on.ca>] > #4 Re: IGI data ["Don and Mary Saban" <dsaban@trib.] > #5 MacLellans [Cynthia McDowell <cynthia_mcdowell] > #6 RE: Details of Birth ["Audrey Bennett" <Audrey_Ann@msn.c] > #7 Re: MacLellans ["Fay Will" <FayWill@leven54.freese] > #8 Re: how to get birthdate? [Jill McKenzie <jmckenzie@jmckenzie] > #9 Fw: You must see this new Web Site ["Eileen@j51.com" <eileen@j51.com>] > #10 Re: MacLellans ["Eileen@j51.com" <eileen@j51.com>] > #11 Kirk Sessions and Scottish Miners [FBarr86833@aol.com] > #12 Are you from ["Annette Pringle" <annettepringle@] > #13 Re: HUTCHISON ["Gloria A McFadden-Goldman" <MCFGO] > > Administrivia: > The Scotland-GenWeb List HOME PAGE: > http://home.earthlink.net/~cmccombs/sctpg.htm > > To UNSUBSCRIBE from SCOTLAND-GENWEB-D, Click here to send a message to > [mailto:SCOTLAND-GENWEB-D-request@rootsweb.com] > that contains in the body of the message the command unsubscribe and no > other text. No subject line is necessary, but if your software requires > one, just use unsubscribe in the subject, too. > ______________________________ > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Subject: Re: IGI data > Date: Tue, 07 Sep 1999 08:51:08 BST > From: "L. Bousbaine" <wayland@hotmail.com> > To: SCOTLAND-GENWEB-L@rootsweb.com > > Thanks to everybody who told me that the 'ABT' in the IGI stands for about. > Unfortunately, I already know that. > > My question is more in terms of what 'about' means in the context of the > IGI. If I find a record that says somebody was born 'about 1782' what does > it mean? Is it basically a blind guess as to when the person was born, > perhaps based on at date of marriage? > > >From there, I was trying to lead into the question - when I come across this > sort of information in the IGI, how do I take it further? By 1800, there are > no census records or official death records to consult and find clues as to > somebody's parents? > > Does anybody have any 'strategy' for working back further? > > Thanks again > > Lesley > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > ______________________________ > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Subject: George Murray SIMPSON, b. 1895 Keith, Banffshire > Date: Tue, 07 Sep 1999 19:34:24 +1000 > From: Pat Rossi <grossi@ozemail.com.au> > To: SCOTLAND-GENWEB-L@rootsweb.com > > Hi, > > I am researching the SIMPSON family of Keith, Banffshire, Scotland. > George Murray SIMPSON emigrated to Australia c1915 with his parents and > siblings and the family settled in North Queensland. He married > Elizabeth Jane BURKETT of Mackay, North Queensland at Mackay in 1917. > > Anyone with an interest in this SIMPSON line, I would be delighted to > hear from you. > > Regards from the sunny Land of Oz, > > Your eva luvin:- > > Great and Glorious, Gifted and Gushing, Gorgeous and Happy (coz bumsoddy > stuffed up that other good G word) Grand Pooh Bah Patticake > > aka > > PAT ROSSI > Melbourne, Australia. > Using her son's internet account <grossi@ozemail.com.au> and LOVING it!! > > Listowner - ARIA - Australasians Researching their Italian (and > Swiss/Italian) Ancestry. > Listowner - SUFFOLK Mailing List > Listowner - GEN-ITALIAN Mailing List > GENANZ - Second in Command to our beloved Boss Cocky > > ______________________________ > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Subject: Re: Francis RAE & Jean SAUNDERSON > Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 09:48:58 -0400 > From: "Wilson" <dwilson@xcelco.on.ca> > To: SCOTLAND-GENWEB-L@rootsweb.com > > Unsubscribe > > ______________________________ > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Subject: Re: IGI data > Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 09:09:53 -0600 > From: "Don and Mary Saban" <dsaban@trib.com> > To: SCOTLAND-GENWEB-L@rootsweb.com > > In terms of the "abt" in the IGI, I would venture to say that it was a > "guess" based on birth of child, spouse's second marriage, date of marriage. > > What I do in Scotland after I have worked backwards and obtained all the > documentation I can is two fold: 1) try to find death records after 1855 > for those who may have died after 1855 but born in the early 1800's. 2) > order in the Old Parish Records on microfilm and start studying. You will > find marriage banns, baptisms, mortcloth rentals, in some cases burials, > miscellaneous church records. > Using the naming pattern as a guide (and you can verify if later generations > used the naming pattern loosely, strictly, or what), you can build a > "tentative" tree. Cemetery Monument Inscriptions if available help put the > "icing on the cake" so to speak. They help prove or disprove your tentative > tree. > > Other sources: look in the microfiche index for locality and find out what > resources are available for your parish (mostly they are on microfilm). > > These sources may help you get through the 1700's and into the 1690's. > Before that, records are quite scarce. > > Good luck, > > Don and Mary in Wyoming, USA > > > > >Thanks to everybody who told me that the 'ABT' in the IGI stands for about. > >Unfortunately, I already know that. > > > >My question is more in terms of what 'about' means in the context of the > >IGI. If I find a record that says somebody was born 'about 1782' what does > >it mean? Is it basically a blind guess as to when the person was born, > >perhaps based on at date of marriage? > > > >>From there, I was trying to lead into the question - when I come across > this > >sort of information in the IGI, how do I take it further? By 1800, there > are > >no census records or official death records to consult and find clues as to > >somebody's parents? > > > >Does anybody have any 'strategy' for working back further? > > > >Thanks again > > > >Lesley > > > >______________________________________________________ > >Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > > > > >==== SCOTLAND-GENWEB Mailing List ==== > >Hundreds of Scot Urls....... > > http://celt.net/og/angscot3.htm > > http://celt.net/og/angscot2.htm > > http://celt.net/og/angscot.htm > > > >============================== > >Support free genealogy on the Internet! Join RootsWeb.com today! > > > > ______________________________ > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Subject: MacLellans > Date: Tue, 07 Sep 1999 09:37:49 -0700 > From: Cynthia McDowell <cynthia_mcdowell@westernmgmt.com> > To: SCOTLAND-GENWEB-L@rootsweb.com > > Hello! I am very excited as my grandfather MACLELLAN has finally decided > to sit down and write out what he remembers about his family. I talked > to my mom over the weekend and he and his cousin have managed to trace > back 5 generations!!, from Nova Scotia to Scotland, including tons of > dates and even such t hings as hospital names etc. So, I do not have > the information yet, it is coming priority post today so I should have > it in a few days. I just wanted to see if there is anyone out there who > might be interested in sharing informatoin on MacLellans. The name used > to be spelled MCCLELLAND, if that helps anyone, and I will likely post > the pertinant information to the list to see if there are any > connections, but would anyone with any McClelland connections please let > me know?? > > Thanks a bunch! > Cynthia McDowell > > ______________________________ > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Subject: RE: Details of Birth > Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 11:26:29 -0700 > From: "Audrey Bennett" <Audrey_Ann@msn.com> > To: SCOTLAND-GENWEB-L@rootsweb.com > > Hope I am not duplicating anyone else's answer if I note that the marriage > record will help you narrow down the date of birth by giving the groom's age > at the time of the marriage in 1920. > > You can get this by writing (the old-fashioned way - on paper :) to New > Register House - the info won't be on Origins on-line - tell them what you > know & give a credit card number and they will do the rest. I can supply a > sample letter if you are interested as I was in exactly the same situation > myself. > > The marriage record will also give you the names of parents for both bride & > groom. > > An extract well worth the price! > > best of luck- > Audrey Bennett > Bellevue, WA USA > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: michael lonsdale [mailto:lonsdale@globalnet.co.uk] > > Sent: Monday, September 06, 1999 10:01 AM > > To: SCOTLAND-GENWEB-L@rootsweb.com > > Subject: Re: Details of Birth > > > > > > Hi Alec and everybody on the List > > > > Thank you to everydoby for all the information. > > > > Unfortunately we only guessing at a date of birth, he was married > > in 1920 so > > am assuming birth 1890/1900. > > > > Also have no idea of parents names, and place of birth again assuming > > Glasgowas that is were he was married and ran a business so it is going to > > bit a bit Hit & Miss. > > > > We hope to be able to find something that may give us a lead, but > > don't know > > what. > > > > Again many thanks to evreybody for their imput. > > > > Michael > > > > > > ______________________________ > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Subject: Re: MacLellans > Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 20:16:07 +0100 > From: "Fay Will" <FayWill@leven54.freeserve.co.uk> > To: SCOTLAND-GENWEB-L@rootsweb.com > > Hello Cynthia, > > I know of a Peter McLellan of Knoydart who married an Ann ? and lived > latterly at Little Dunkeld and then Meigle, both places being in Perthshire. > In 1881 Peter was aged 36. > > Hope this bit might be useful to you. > > Fay Will (Leven, Fife) > e-mail address: faywill@leven54.freeserve.co.uk > > >Hello! I am very excited as my grandfather MACLELLAN has finally decided > >to sit down and write out what he remembers about his family. I talked > >to my mom over the weekend and he and his cousin have managed to trace > >back 5 generations!!, from Nova Scotia to Scotland, including tons of > >dates and even such t hings as hospital names etc. So, I do not have > >the information yet, it is coming priority post today so I should have > >it in a few days. I just wanted to see if there is anyone out there who > >might be interested in sharing informatoin on MacLellans. The name used > >to be spelled MCCLELLAND, if that helps anyone, and I will likely post > >the pertinant information to the list to see if there are any > >connections, but would anyone with any McClelland connections please let > >me know?? > > > >Thanks a bunch! > >Cynthia McDowell > > > > > >==== SCOTLAND-GENWEB Mailing List ==== > >Documentation....The hardest > >part of genealogy. > > > >============================== > >Search the Social Security Death Index online for FREE! > >http://ssdi.genealogy.rootsweb.com/ > >The most powerful SSDI search engine on the Internet! > > > > > > ______________________________ > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Subject: Re: how to get birthdate? > Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 21:09:11 +0100 > From: Jill McKenzie <jmckenzie@jmckenzie.demon.co.uk> > To: SCOTLAND-GENWEB-L@rootsweb.com > > In article <34eb961e.25059e5b@aol.com>, Tparkie@aol.com writes > >In order to get the birthdate, should I send for the marriage record of the > >individual or the birth registration for his child? On which record would I > >be more likely to get the birthdate or age of this man? Thanks for any and > >all thoughts. > > > >Best wishes, > >Janet in USA > >Tparkie@aol.com > > > > I'm pretty sure that only the age in years appears on a marriage or a > death certificate, whereas the birth certificate has the date and time. > > So you won't find someone's date of birth either on his marriage > certificate or the birth certificate of his child, but you will get his > age from the former. > > Hope this helps. > > Jill McKenzie > Glasgow, Scotland > > ______________________________ > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Subject: Fw: You must see this new Web Site! > Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 16:45:06 -0400 > From: "Eileen@j51.com" <eileen@j51.com> > To: SCOTLAND-GENWEB-L@rootsweb.com > > www.thegen.com is simply unbelievable!!! > > Eileen Herkes > > >> >From todays Scotsman http://www.scotsman.com/ > >> click on Tech to see this article - I don't know when the > Page is > >> updated but it IS a daily newspaper! :o) It's nearly > 10.30 p.m. in > >> Scotland, so be quick! > >> > ............................................................ > ......... > >> > >> On a clear day you can see Edinburgh Castle from > Elgin > >> > >> ANNA SOMMERVILLE 'WALKS' THE STREETS, > VIRTUALLY > >> > >> THE beauty of the internet for many is that it breaks > down geographical > >> barriers, allowing a flow of information undreamed of > just a few years > >> ago. For the founders of the Gen, however, location is > everything. > >> > >> Paul Burns and Gary Harrison have created a site > (www.thegen.com) where > >> people can "walk" the streets of Edinburgh in such a way > that they will > >> come to know the city before they ever visit it. > >> > >> As the site stands, the duo have used 20,000 photographs > to create > >> panoramic views of the capital so people can now see > where they are > >> going, where their hotel is sited and so on. Harrison > says it gives > >> their site a great advantage over others that offer only > comprehensive > >> lists of information and photographic stills. "Raw > information, lists of > >> hotels, lists of attractions, prices and a brief > description of each one > >> is good, but it is only half the picture." > >> > >> What the Gen has done so successfully is, as he says, > "to spacially > >> relate" information, that is to show how to get to a > museum from your > >> hotel not by looking at a map (although the online one is > detailed) but > >> by "walking" the streets on the website, so you know what > the third turn > >> on the right > >> looks like. > >> > >> Snip > >> > >> their "sideline" does demand an awful lot from > them. They are > >> based at RAF Lossiemouth and have to travel to Edinburgh > to take the > >> photographs. "If you're going to do this sort of thing, > then you've got > >> to be really dedicated," says Harrison. > >> > >> "We're out and about taking pictures at 3:30 in the > morning. People > >> must think we're mad. They see this guy who looks like a > tourist taking > >> 18 pictures of the same spot in Princes Street then > moving five yards > >> down the road and taking another 18. You've got to be > pretty dedicated > >> to do that." > >> > >> SNIP > >> > >> But their efforts have paid off. To test the efficacy of > the site, the > >> duo asked a friend who had never visited Edinburgh to log > on to the net > >> and wander the streets for a while. Then they got him to > drive to > >> Edinburgh. His reaction was: "This is brilliant. I've > been here before." > >> So confident was he of his surroundings that he drove > straight to the > >> place he wanted to go, knew where to park and knew where > the local > >> attractions were. > >> > >> "He was so pleased when he got there," says Harrison. > "It took away all > >> that worry, inexperience and the pain of not knowing > where everything > >> is." > >> > >> It seems that others are enjoying the experience also. > The site is > >> power-hungry and requires Macromedia's Shockwave plug-in. > But despite > >> the fact that it takes more than enough time for people > to get bored > >> waiting for a page to load, Harrison reports that those > who persevere > >> are logging on for 20 to 30 minutes at a time. > >> > >> SNIP > >> > >> Ideally the pair would have liked to build the site to > the > >> specifications that would suit ADSL - asymmetric digital > subscriber > >> line, the broadband technology that uses existing copper > phone lines but > >> which runs many times faster than now. > >> > >> For example, panoramic views that now take 30 seconds or > so to load on > >> the Gen site would, under ADSL, take only three seconds > or so to load. > >> This, says Harrison, would allow them to create a > facility whereby, as > >> viewers loaded one view, the four surrounding it would be > loaded > >> automatically > >> and their walk through the city would be almost > seamless. But they felt > >> it was more important to build a presence online and get > themselves > >> established now as the leading specialists rather than > wait for > >> technology to catch up. > >> > >> SNIP > >> > >> The duo have big plans. "We've got this vision that we > are going to be > >> the Yahoo! of the visual world," says Harrison. "They > started from a > >> very small directory listing and grew and drew in other > people and got > >> bigger and bigger. We see ourselves in two or three > years' time having > >> 14 or 15 > >> cities in our site, all of which are accessed in the > same way." > >> > >> The ideal would be that people with time on their hands > join in with > >> similar projects. The Gen would train them in the > technology, take the > >> resulting photographs and create virtual worlds of other > cities, be they > >> in the UK, Europe or wherever. > >> > >> If these men have their way, then no more will people > turn up to their > >> hotel only to find that it backs on to a building site. > The ultimate > >> tool would be to provide a handheld device. There have > been moves in > >> that direction, but these have been based on map > listings. For the > >> moment, two guys living in Elgin are leading the world > and the last > >> words belong to Harison: "We've been very inventive in > Scotland > >> historically; it would be nice if we could get on the > crest again." > >> > > ______________________________ > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Subject: Re: MacLellans > Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 16:47:38 -0400 > From: "Eileen@j51.com" <eileen@j51.com> > To: SCOTLAND-GENWEB-L@rootsweb.com > > Cynthia: > > Oh, you are lucky!! > > Eileen, green with envy > > -----Original Message----- > From: Cynthia McDowell <cynthia_mcdowell@westernmgmt.com> > To: SCOTLAND-GENWEB-L@rootsweb.com > <SCOTLAND-GENWEB-L@rootsweb.com> > Date: Tuesday, September 07, 1999 12:34 PM > Subject: MacLellans > > >Hello! I am very excited as my grandfather MACLELLAN has > finally decided > >to sit down and write out what he remembers about his > family. I talked > >to my mom over the weekend and he and his cousin have > managed to trace > >back 5 generations!!, from Nova Scotia to Scotland, > including tons of > >dates and even such t hings as hospital names etc. So, I > do not have > >the information yet, it is coming priority post today so I > should have > >it in a few days. I just wanted to see if there is anyone > out there who > >might be interested in sharing informatoin on MacLellans. > The name used > >to be spelled MCCLELLAND, if that helps anyone, and I will > likely post > >the pertinant information to the list to see if there are > any > >connections, but would anyone with any McClelland > connections please let > >me know?? > > > >Thanks a bunch! > >Cynthia McDowell > > > > > >==== SCOTLAND-GENWEB Mailing List ==== > >Documentation....The hardest > >part of genealogy. > > > >============================== > >Search the Social Security Death Index online for FREE! > >http://ssdi.genealogy.rootsweb.com/ > >The most powerful SSDI search engine on the Internet! > > > > > > ______________________________ > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Subject: Kirk Sessions and Scottish Miners in 1795 > Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 16:58:56 EDT > From: FBarr86833@aol.com > To: SCOTLAND-GENWEB-L@rootsweb.com > > I just read this today, and both subjects are of interest to me, and I am > sure they will be to someone else. > > Ian McIntyre, Dirt & Deity: A life of Robert Burns. > (London: Flamingo, An Imprint of Harper Collins, Publishers, 77-85 Fulham > Palace Road, Hammersmith, London W7 9JP, 1995), > > pp. 10-11.....Kirk Sessions - 1759 > > “Power lay with the Kirk Session, composed usually of the minister and two or > more elders, and this lowest form of ecclesiastical court exercised functions > not unlike those later assigned under totalitarian regimes to ‘the Party,” > from the primitive administration of poor relief to the determined pursuit of > fornication. It issued certificates of good character to parishioners moving > elsewhere and send out vigilante patrols on the Sabbath in search of > defectors from worship. To fodder horses or put out nets - even to be caught > gazing idly out of the window - was to invite a fine. Nor were the clergy > above the law. At New Mocker, in Aberdeenshire, the minister was hauled > before the Presbytery for powdering his wig on the Lord’s Day.” > > p. 5, fn 1....Scottish miners - 1759 > > “The men and women who worked in Scottish mines, although their wages were > relatively high, lived in conditions approximating to legal serfdom. If a it > was sold, they became the property of the new owner; infants were sometimes > bound to the coal master for life at the time of baptisms. The masters were > obliged in return to keep them all their days, in sickness and old age - and > to provide a coffin for their burial. This extraordinary state of affairs, > sanction by Scots law since 1606, was not fully remedied until the last year > of the century.” > > dick barr > Syracuse, New York > > ______________________________ > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Subject: Are you from > Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1999 06:32:14 +1200 > From: "Annette Pringle" <annettepringle@ozemail.com.au> > To: SCOTLAND-GENWEB-L@rootsweb.com > > Pat Rossi > > Are you from Innisfail Qld and related to Betty Rossi? If so permission requested from listowner for Pat to e-mail me privately. > > Sorry listers this is a bit off topic but very short > > Annette from Dubbo NSW > annettepringle@ozemail.com.au > > ______________________________ > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Subject: Re: HUTCHISON > Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 15:58:52 -0700 > From: "Gloria A McFadden-Goldman" <MCFGOLD@prodigy.net> > To: SCOTLAND-GENWEB-L@rootsweb.com > > Hello, > I am searching for the names of the parents and siblings of THOMAS > HUTCHISON born about 1810 at an area that is now Edinburgh. THOMAS married > JEAN WYLIE in 1832. They had five children, non whom left any descendants. > THOMAS HUTCHISON built a mansion in 1850 and called it Carlowrie Castle. > Their second daughter ISOBEL WYLIE HUTCHISON was born 1888 in Carlowrie > and died in Carlowrie in 1982. ISOBEL wrote stories of Scotland in the > 30's and 40's. They were published in the 'National Geographic'. > I would appreciate any information that any of you out there can give me on > these ancestors. > Thanking you in advance. > Gloria Hutchison-McFadden-Goldman from the Great Pacific Northwest

The only kind of a picture that WILL NOT degrade over time is a digital one. Once you have the very best printed image you can find, I suggest a VERY high resolution scan and judicious use of some image processing software which can do many things to enhance the picture (if you want to) such as: removing cracks and creases, selectively lightening areas and bringing detail out of the shadows. Once you have the best digital copy, it is trivial to create multiple copies which can be passed on to others for safekeeping and/or reference, or reduced for display on web sites, or printed on colour printers with a quality that likely exceeds that of the original. They never fade, they never get scratched, and every single copy is 100% as good as the original which means that as long as EVERYONE hasn't lost the file, the best picture still exists somewhere even if you lose yours. Some of this technology may be beyond the average home computer today, but some people can do it now, it gets closer every day and we should be looking forward to it. Regards - Glen C. Bodie Personal contacts------------------------------- Web http://www.glenbodie.com Home mailto:glen@glenbodie.com Office mailto:Glen.C.Bodie@esso.com My Tree http://www.parsonstech.com/genealogy/trees/gbodie/index.htm ICQ http://wwp.mirabilis.com/7544260 Snail Mail: 76 Strathcona Ave, Toronto, Ontario, Canada M4J 1G8 Fax: (603) 250-8940 (via http://www.efax.com) Thornicroft surname----------------------------- Web http://genweb.net/~thornicroft Mail mailto:thornicroft@genweb.net Query http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/surnames/tho/Thornicroft Mail List mailto:thornicroft-l@rootsweb.com Antle surname----------------------------------- Web http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~antlenf/default.htm Mail mailto:antle@glenbodie.com Query http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/surnames/ant/Antle Mail List mailto:antle-l@rootsweb.com Researching------------------------------------- A.NTLE, B.ODIE, C.OFFIN, C.OMRIE, D.EWAR, F.ARQUHARSON, F.ORD, F.REEMAN, G.RAINGER, L.AW, M.ACHRAY, M.CNIE, M.CPHAIL, M.UTCH, O.SBORNE, R.ENNIE, S.MITH, S.TERNS, S.TEWART, T.HOMSON, T.HORNE, T.HORNICROFT, T.UPPER, W.ALKER >> M.UTCH+F.ARQUHARSON info at http://www.isn.net/~dhunter/index.html

I have been told that copier (and computer printer) inks are more stable than photoprahpic dyes. A friend of mine is scanning all her important family photos, printing them on photo quality printer paper and putting those prints in the frames all over her house. Meanwhile the originals will stay in albums and she will store the digital versions on a zip drive. I would do the same but I barely have time to read all the email from the lists I subscribe to, let alone undertake such a huge project! Trudy Phelps Orlando, FL (missed by Floyd, by the grace of God!) ---- Original Message ----- From: Marcy <kim.hoover@worldnet.att.net> To: <SCOTLAND-GENWEB-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 1999 11:10 AM Subject: Re: Photocopying pictures > I'm wondering how permanent the inks are in these copy machines? When we were > buying a scanner we were told that the colored inks were not permanent. I don't > know if this is true for the black ink. I can make a much better quality copy of > a photo with my scanner, though, than I get from having a photographic copy made > at a camera store ($5 for a 5x7), especially if I use the photo quality papers > available. Be sure to read the box as some of the papers are acid free and some > are not. > > CecilyLang@aol.com wrote: > > > While on the subject of copying old photographs, if they are sepia-toned, use > > a color printer. They come out extremely well compared to those copies done > > in black and white. > > ______________________________

Mary Inglis thoughtfully, put here on the List an exact transcript of the codes at **bottom** of each IGI fiche. And she adds...... > As you can see F does not stand for female. And M is not for male, but for > marriage. Logical assumption that F and M would be for sex of the person, > but not so on the IGI microfiche. The IGI fiche has many columns!! And the abbreviations F and M are shown at **fiche top**, to mean "M= MALE, F= FEMALE" when these appear in the <4th column> But in the fifth and eleventh column, Mary is absolutely correct! ============================================================ Scots tradition- disagree, without being disagreeable ;~) Thanks Mary, Cheers............ ALISTAIR M. CAMERON

I would like to thank Marjorie, Carolyn, Janene, and Jessie & Tom, and everyone else who replied, either directly or indirectly, to my question about the IGI records. As I had said in my original posting about this, I was checking in the IGI on the LDS site looking for information when: > I found a record for a John Anderson and Margaret Skeock who were > married in 1829. When I used the Film Number in that record with their > names in order to try and find their children, it came up with 11 > children, one listed with the day, month and year of birth, and the > other ten all listed as being born in 1841! Some of the replies I received asked about the film itself. I never looked at the film, I had just typed in the Film Number with the parents' names in the IGI on the www.familysearch.com site, and that is how I got the 11 birth records, with 10 listed for 1841. I know there were some questions directed to me about this subject, to which I wanted to reply. However, I seem to have inadvertently deleted the digest which contained these messages while cleaning out my mailbox yesterday. Thanks! Pat

I would like to thank Marjorie, Carolyn, Janene, and Jessie & Tom, and everyone else who replied either directly or indirectly to my question about the IGI records. As I had said in my original posting about this, I was checking in the IGI on the LDS site looking for information when: > I found a record for a John Anderson and Margaret Skeock who were > married in 1829. When I used the Film Number in that record with their > names in order to try and find their children, it came up with 11 > children, one listed with the day, month and year of birth, and the > other ten all listed as being born in 1841! Some of the replies I received asked about the film itself. I never looked at the film, I had just typed in the Film Number with the parents' names in the IGI, and that is how I got the 11 birth records, with 10 listed for 1841. I know there were some questions directed to me about this subject, to which I wanted to reply. However, I seem to have inadvertently deleted the digest which contained these messages while cleaning out my mailbox yesterday. Thanks! Pat

Hi there, I'm also a Menzie from that area, way back about 1750ish... Try the Clan Menzie Society, either in the USA or Canada... ANNIE OF MCGREGOR RESEARCH McGregor Pearson, McGregor Lee, McGregor Laurason, McGregor McKinlay, McGregor Menzie, McGregor McFarlin, McGregor McNicol, Rotson, McGillivie,McDiramid, McKiver with a possible Rob Roy McGregor connection ROB ROY MCGREGOR -----Original Message----- From: JackieMc@aol.com <JackieMc@aol.com> To: SCOTLAND-GENWEB-L@rootsweb.com <SCOTLAND-GENWEB-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Wednesday, September 15, 1999 1:31 PM Subject: Menzies and McMinn Contacts > Hi Folks, > I am a descendant of McMinn, our surname originated in >Scotland, about 1600, coming from the Clan Menzies of Aberfeldy, >Perthshire, Scotland. > In or near Weem, exists a castle that was built abt 1510, by >Robert DeMeyners of Normandy, and the McMinn surname is a >derivative, along with Mengues, Menzies, MacMin, McMin and >McMinn. > If anyone knows a contact or source I can get in touch with, >I would certainly appreciate it, and Thanks in advance. > Jackie McMinn > Alabama, USA > > >==== SCOTLAND-GENWEB Mailing List ==== >Think BEFORE you post ! > >============================== >Search the Social Security Death Index online for FREE! >http://ssdi.genealogy.rootsweb.com/ >The most powerful SSDI search engine on the Internet! > >

Additionally, the copied photograph, when mounted for framing, can be protected for various levels of sun exposure by several different types of glass. Check with a reliable framer for all the latest materials available. Dr. Mary Ellen (Douglass) Newsom Marcy wrote: > I'm wondering how permanent the inks are in these copy machines? When we were > buying a scanner we were told that the colored inks were not permanent. I don't > know if this is true for the black ink. I can make a much better quality copy of > a photo with my scanner, though, than I get from having a photographic copy made > at a camera store ($5 for a 5x7), especially if I use the photo quality papers > available. Be sure to read the box as some of the papers are acid free and some > are not. > > CecilyLang@aol.com wrote: > > > While on the subject of copying old photographs, if they are sepia-toned, use > > a color printer. They come out extremely well compared to those copies done > > in black and white. > > ==== SCOTLAND-GENWEB Mailing List ==== > Genealogy Help List > http://posom.com/hl/ > > ============================== > Support free genealogy on the Internet! Join RootsWeb.com today!

I'm wondering how permanent the inks are in these copy machines? When we were buying a scanner we were told that the colored inks were not permanent. I don't know if this is true for the black ink. I can make a much better quality copy of a photo with my scanner, though, than I get from having a photographic copy made at a camera store ($5 for a 5x7), especially if I use the photo quality papers available. Be sure to read the box as some of the papers are acid free and some are not. CecilyLang@aol.com wrote: > While on the subject of copying old photographs, if they are sepia-toned, use > a color printer. They come out extremely well compared to those copies done > in black and white.

Hi Folks, I am a descendant of McMinn, our surname originated in Scotland, about 1600, coming from the Clan Menzies of Aberfeldy, Perthshire, Scotland. In or near Weem, exists a castle that was built abt 1510, by Robert DeMeyners of Normandy, and the McMinn surname is a derivative, along with Mengues, Menzies, MacMin, McMin and McMinn. If anyone knows a contact or source I can get in touch with, I would certainly appreciate it, and Thanks in advance. Jackie McMinn Alabama, USA

We had some old photographs rephotographed and printed so that we could send them to other family members. The new photographs had greater clarity than the old ones which was wonderful. It also means the old photographs can be stored away from greasy fingers and other problems. Graeme Laird