Hello John and Mary: could/would you please give an explanation regarding mortcloths and, etc. I'm sorry if this has been addressed before But I know little about the actual burial rights in Scotland and have come to realize that it may help me in my search, Cheer and Thanks Jani

You know my Mother always taught me that it was better to keep your mouth shut and be thought a fool than to open it and leave no doubt. I probably should keep it shut this time but I think it is a shame that people criticize people when they are doing the best they know how to search for their ancestors. I don't usually respond to trivial things like this, but I have had my share of rude individuals trying to show their intelligence. Linda

DON'T let other people do that to you Lucille - or anybody else!!! When we started we were ALL tyros! That was back in the old BBS days, and we helped each other... as we should do! I've watched many of this new Internet lot fumble and fall, but I've never seen any of the old Originals belittle or embarrass them in an open message to all (obviously written with the intention of humiliating them in the most public way).. Instead of giving the impression that they know-all, they announce their ignorance of Nettiquite and common decency! Let's get on with searching for those damned elusive Ancestors:-)) Cheers, Pearl. http://members.tripod.com/PearlsPad/ > An occurrence similar to this happened to me on one of the other lists; it > made me so self-conscious about writing or replying that I didn't do so for > a month! Now I just "lurk" and hope to goodness that no one sees me there > in the corner ... > > Lucille

Greetings (whatever your name is :) ) Scottish batch numbers follow the sequence listed here. Birth/Christening batch number prefix is C Marriage batch numbers prefix is M The first two numbers are 11 The next three numbers are the parish number (There are exceptions in very large parishes where another number is used, but I have not found the sequence of them yet) The last number starts with 1, progressing through 2,3 , on to 9. Example: Kilmarnock is parish # 597 Birth batch number is C115971 which gives you births for 1855 - 1874. To find the parish number for the one you wish to search, go to http://www.ktb.net/~dwills/index.html . This is David Wills excellent site which has, among other things, lists of parish numbers. This is the arrangement for all of Scotland, not just for Ayr. Hope it helps. George M. McCaig, Dwight, Ontario, Canada. -

At 03:32 21/09/1999 EDT, Raylea67@aol.com wrote: >Hi, Could anyone with an ordinance survey map of the Keith area in Banffshire >please check a place called "AUCHINDERRAN" for me. Any help would be greatly >appreciated. >Regards Ray > > >==== SCOTLAND-GENWEB Mailing List ==== >For Scotland history..... >http://members.aol.com/Skyelander/timeline.html > >============================== >Support free genealogy on the Internet! Join RootsWeb.com today! > > Auchinderran looks as if it may be a farm situated about 3 1/2 miles north west of Keith, on the right side of B9016, the road which runs between the A96 and Portgordon. Regards, Ed Barron ejbarron@bigpond.com

Thanks Terri, I don't know them. My Watmough's were in Lancashire. Only Ann came over with her husband. I would like to contact them if you have an email address. On 21 Sep 99 at 21:15, SCOTLAND-GENWEB-L@rootsweb.co wrote: > If you are not already related, I know of some Watmough's that live in > Lethbridge Alberta. > terri > Dawn Ellis mellis@nbnet.nb.ca ICQ # 33205877 URL http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Shores/4047

ENOUGH on the subject. Period. It was not meant to irritate people. She wanted only to try to find some relatives. She thought that was the way to do it. Granted it could have been done a bit different, but everyone has a delete key. Cheryl ListMistress

hear hear! ----- Original Message ----- From: Norman <noba@i2k.com> To: <SCOTLAND-GENWEB-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: 21 September 1999 22:21 Subject: Re: (Fwd) WALKER > That is your second mistake in as many days. If you want help...don't make > it three. > > Norm > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Dawn Ellis <mellis@nbnet.nb.ca> > To: <SCOTLAND-GENWEB-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 1999 2:31 PM > Subject: Re: (Fwd) WALKER > > > > So don't read them!!!!! > > > > On 21 Sep 99 at 6:38, > > SCOTLAND-GENWEB-L@rootsweb.co wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== SCOTLAND-GENWEB Mailing List ==== > Think BEFORE you post ! > > ============================== > Support free genealogy on the Internet! Join RootsWeb.com today! > >

An occurrence similar to this happened to me on one of the other lists; it made me so self-conscious about writing or replying that I didn't do so for a month! Now I just "lurk" and hope to goodness that no one sees me there in the corner ... Lucille -----Original Message----- From: Raymond W. M. Henderson. <batman@diesel.net.au> To: SCOTLAND-GENWEB-L@rootsweb.com <SCOTLAND-GENWEB-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Tuesday, September 21, 1999 3:46 PM Subject: Re: IGNORE THE WHINERS >Yes it's the old saying! >"You can please some of the people some of the time, but you can't please some of >the people all the time" >Thank God I'm not new on this list it would be enough to make me run a mile! >Get over it folks please and support each other, life is to short for all >this!.... >Raymond Henderson. >Bendigo, Victoria, Australia. > >joel voorhees wrote: > >> It didn't bother me you put the names up separately. If you had put them all >> together everyone would be complaining they were confused. When the name >> doesn't concern me I just delete it. Keep on posting. >> >> Betsy >> New York State >> >> Dawn Ellis wrote: >> >> > On 21 Sep 99 at 11:22, SCOTLAND-GENWEB-L@rootsweb.co wrote: >> > >> > > As soon as I saw the second one, I deleted it. Same with all the others. >> > >> > You wouldn't have deleted if you were interested in one of the names. >> > >> > If I had listed all the surnames in one subject line they would not >> > all show! >> > >> > I'm sorry that some people have nothing better to do than complain >> > because somebody does things differently from them. If I see >> > messages that annoy me or that I'm not interested in I just delete >> > them! >> > >> > Sorry to have caused such a stir!!!!! >> > >> > Dawn Ellis >> > >> > mellis@nbnet.nb.ca >> > >> > ICQ # 33205877 >> > >> > URL >> > http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Shores/4047 >> > >> > ==== SCOTLAND-GENWEB Mailing List ==== >> > GENUKI -Main Scotland Page >> > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/sct/ >> > >> > ============================== >> > Support free genealogy on the Internet! Join RootsWeb.com today! >> >> ==== SCOTLAND-GENWEB Mailing List ==== >> GENUKI -Main Scotland Page >> http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/sct/ >> >> ============================== >> Search the Social Security Death Index online for FREE! >> http://ssdi.genealogy.rootsweb.com/ >> The most powerful SSDI search engine on the Internet! > > >==== SCOTLAND-GENWEB Mailing List ==== >Beware of the Genealogy Bug; >It's bite can be addictive! > >============================== >Support free genealogy on the Internet! Join RootsWeb.com today! >

Hi listers I now have the LDS 1881 census and would be willing to do lookups. However, I would need to be contacted by my email as I would have to wait until I went the next day to my daughter's house to babysit to use her computer (I have webtv). If anyone is willing to wait a few days, then please email me with your info. I have found it exciting to do my own lookups and to find that what I thought my ancestors home was a single dwelling to hold 4 families with a total of 22 people. You can also look up their neighbors. Betty Wintersteen, Ipswich, Massachusetts http://bawwyn@webtv.net - ------------------------------------ As guardians of our family history, it is up to us to pass it on to future generations. - ------------------------------------ Searching ORKNEY-Montrose; Margaret (Maggie) Potter; John Potter, Elsie Potter, Frances Potter, Mary Potter, Mabel Potter of Bents Row, Montrose, circa early 1900's. Family of Jessie Thompson nee Orkney, Massachusetts. Family of Isabella Lowe nee Orkney, Montreal, Canada - -------------------------------------- http://community.webtv.net/BAWWYN/OURFAMILYROOTS

Thought it was time to repost this. "In the quiet of evening , As the sun is sinking to rest, I stand in this little old graveyard, with kind thoughts and goodly, Lest, Those of my unseen ancestors, Who lie in this hallowed spot, Should think that their children's children, Have forgotten them-they have not. Drawn to these very tombstones, To quietly tarry anon, And honour my silent forefathers, For the fight that they fought and won." Jack Higgins. Annie billannieliam@ozemail.com.au

Listers Everywhere, Looking for ancestors and descendents of Mary Teresa STEWART/STUART who was born on 17 May 1889 SOMEWHERE in Scotland. She went to India and married M. Vonlintzgy and after having three children M. Vonlintzgy died and Mary Teresa STEWART/STUART married an Ernest John STUBBS who worked for the East India Company. The children were put into the Loretto Convent in Calcutta. Mary Teresa STEWART/STUART died at sea when returning to Scotland in 1953. Have searched records in Edinburgh and cannot find any trace of Mary Teresa STEWART/STUART being born but she definitely belonged Scotland. Please can anyone help. Fay Will (Leven, Fife) e-mail address: faywill@leven54.freeserve.co.uk

That is your second mistake in as many days. If you want help...don't make it three. Norm ----- Original Message ----- From: Dawn Ellis <mellis@nbnet.nb.ca> To: <SCOTLAND-GENWEB-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 1999 2:31 PM Subject: Re: (Fwd) WALKER > So don't read them!!!!! > > On 21 Sep 99 at 6:38, > SCOTLAND-GENWEB-L@rootsweb.co wrote: > > > > >

If you are not already related, I know of some Watmough's that live in Lethbridge Alberta. terri ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

Ron wrote here....... > (1) What does OPR abbreviate? Old Parish Records? Old Parochial Registers? Yes on both scores. Usage has seen to that! The time period is virtually pre- 1855, a few later events overlap. > (2) How broad is the coverage? Do they cover all the parishes in Scotland > back into the 1600s or just selected ones? Most parishes, and probably almost all of those for the Church of Scotland. <But first>, note that these records are accessed along different routes: * Original handwritten registers- images searchable in Edinburgh, and at any Family History Centre. Various faiths. * INDEX to Church of Scotland Registers. Searchable on FICHE, or CD at any FH Centre, and in Edinburgh, and some large libraries. Searchable on- line to ORIGINS and LDS FamilySearch. For other faiths eg RC, Free, Episcopal, Methodist etc there is no name Index. > (3) How complete is the coverage? Very far from complete. Many folk did not attend church for these events. Births were generally not recorded pre 1855, just baptisms. > (4) Are additional records being added on a continuing basis? Old records as discovered are added to the archives but releases for public access, probably very delayed [Ten? thirty? years] Cheers......... -- ALISTAIR M. CAMERON

This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------479C4DABED605B78CE0A6E03 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --------------479C4DABED605B78CE0A6E03 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-ID: <37E7A684.BE537D81@mail.tds.net> Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 11:38:44 -0400 From: suncatcher@mail.tds.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en]C-NECCK (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "GENIRE-L@rootsweb.com" <GENIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Subject: Lookup Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit If their is anyone who has the Birth-marriage for British Isle CD could I please ask for a lookup on the following Marriage for Hugh Watson 1870-1880 Bride's last name Dunlop Birth for John T. Carr 1832 Parents Thomas Carr and Bridget O'Donnell Thanks for your help Sharon --------------479C4DABED605B78CE0A6E03--

You said it all ANNIE OF MCGREGOR RESEARCH McGregor Pearson, McGregor Lee, McGregor Laurason, McGregor McKinlay, McGregor Menzie, McGregor McFarlin, McGregor McNicol, Rotson, McGillivie,McDiramid, McKiver with a possible Rob Roy McGregor connection -----Original Message----- From: Raymond W. M. Henderson. <batman@diesel.net.au> To: SCOTLAND-GENWEB-L@rootsweb.com <SCOTLAND-GENWEB-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Tuesday, September 21, 1999 3:43 PM Subject: Re: IGNORE THE WHINERS >Yes it's the old saying! >"You can please some of the people some of the time, but you can't please some of >the people all the time" >Thank God I'm not new on this list it would be enough to make me run a mile! >Get over it folks please and support each other, life is to short for all >this!.... >Raymond Henderson. >Bendigo, Victoria, Australia. > >joel voorhees wrote: > >> It didn't bother me you put the names up separately. If you had put them all >> together everyone would be complaining they were confused. When the name >> doesn't concern me I just delete it. Keep on posting. >> >> Betsy >> New York State >> >> Dawn Ellis wrote: >> >> > On 21 Sep 99 at 11:22, SCOTLAND-GENWEB-L@rootsweb.co wrote: >> > >> > > As soon as I saw the second one, I deleted it. Same with all the others. >> > >> > You wouldn't have deleted if you were interested in one of the names. >> > >> > If I had listed all the surnames in one subject line they would not >> > all show! >> > >> > I'm sorry that some people have nothing better to do than complain >> > because somebody does things differently from them. If I see >> > messages that annoy me or that I'm not interested in I just delete >> > them! >> > >> > Sorry to have caused such a stir!!!!! >> > >> > Dawn Ellis >> > >> > mellis@nbnet.nb.ca >> > >> > ICQ # 33205877 >> > >> > URL >> > http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Shores/4047 >> > >> > ==== SCOTLAND-GENWEB Mailing List ==== >> > GENUKI -Main Scotland Page >> > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/sct/ >> > >> > ============================== >> > Support free genealogy on the Internet! Join RootsWeb.com today! >> >> ==== SCOTLAND-GENWEB Mailing List ==== >> GENUKI -Main Scotland Page >> http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/sct/ >> >> ============================== >> Search the Social Security Death Index online for FREE! >> http://ssdi.genealogy.rootsweb.com/ >> The most powerful SSDI search engine on the Internet! > > >==== SCOTLAND-GENWEB Mailing List ==== >Beware of the Genealogy Bug; >It's bite can be addictive! > >============================== >Support free genealogy on the Internet! Join RootsWeb.com today! > >

Would like to invite the list members for a visit to my Scottish Names Research Website. It has got plenty of Links to help you with your Scottish Family Research. http://www.spiderweb.com.au/~frasbett Peter ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

I'm sorry that uou wasted so much time on a detailed reply. WHY would you read messages that are specific to names you are NOT researching??? On 21 Sep 99 at 19:46, SCOTLAND-GENWEB-L@rootsweb.co wrote: > I do not think that this mailing list is suppose to be used for attitudes > and problems with another's viewpoints. Perhaps it would be easier all > around if people did list all the names or as many as they can in a subject > line. I am sorry to say that after the first one, I read the second one and > then also deleted them with no concern as to what was in the remaining ones > as it was pretty evident they were the same...but...I just don't have time > to read the same email 8 times or more. And each email was identical for > the record..only the subject line was different. After we all saw that each > one was the same, of course we are going to delete them no matter the > subject line cause you named all the family name connections in the first > one didn't you? I don't think anyone is trying to attack you here in the > least - I believe that we are all just saying that with myself being on 14 > mailing lists for genealogy research, I don't have time or patience to read > the same one over and over. It's just a suggestion that has been made at > this stage. Of course we all hope that your names will find a connection > with someone out there. But could we leave it to one email next time? > Thanks!!! :) > > Hope > > P.S. For the record, I believe all of us open each email and scan through > the list of names there so doesn't really matter if "all" the names are on > subject line does it? > > Bye and happy hunting all!!!!!!! > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Dawn Ellis <mellis@nbnet.nb.ca> > To: <SCOTLAND-GENWEB-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: 21 September 1999 19:31 > Subject: Re: (Fwd) WALKER > > > > On 21 Sep 99 at 11:22, SCOTLAND-GENWEB-L@rootsweb.co wrote: > > > > > As soon as I saw the second one, I deleted it. Same with all the > others. > > > > You wouldn't have deleted if you were interested in one of the names. > > > > If I had listed all the surnames in one subject line they would not > > all show! > > > > I'm sorry that some people have nothing better to do than complain > > because somebody does things differently from them. If I see > > messages that annoy me or that I'm not interested in I just delete > > them! > > > > Sorry to have caused such a stir!!!!! > > > > Dawn Ellis > > > > mellis@nbnet.nb.ca > > > > ICQ # 33205877 > > > > URL > > http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Shores/4047 > > > > > > ==== SCOTLAND-GENWEB Mailing List ==== > > GENUKI -Main Scotland Page > > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/sct/ > > > > ============================== > > Support free genealogy on the Internet! Join RootsWeb.com today! > > > > > > > ==== SCOTLAND-GENWEB Mailing List ==== > For Scotland history..... > http://members.aol.com/Skyelander/timeline.html > > ============================== > Search the Social Security Death Index online for FREE! > http://ssdi.genealogy.rootsweb.com/ > The most powerful SSDI search engine on the Internet! > > Dawn Ellis mellis@nbnet.nb.ca ICQ # 33205877 URL http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Shores/4047

John Shearer said it very well. Now back to the business at hand, genealogy. That is what we're all here for. I'm going to repost my ancestor in hopes that some new lister might have some information. He was Daniel McComas(or some variant spelling thereof) born abt. 1664 in Scotland, parish unknown. He was a guard at Edinburgh Castle until the 1680s. He emigrated to America in 1685, landing in Annapolis, MD. He is said to have left Scotland with a price on his head because of the political situation there at that time. In 1687 he married a woman named Elizabeth McGill or Gill. It is unknown whether he knew her in Scotland or met her in America. She was born in 1665-1667. Since there are many McGills in Edinburgh, my belief is that he met her while he lived there. After his death in 1699 she married a man named Stephen Gill, who may have been a relative. Does anyone have any information on him, her or their families? This is all the information I have about him that relates to Scotland. Any help would be appreciated. Judy Anderman