Dear Lucille, > Check this out....it's where I found the info on my ancestors. I have the > book too that list all the Scottish prisoners sent to the colonies and as > soon as I lay my hands on it, I'll check it out for your name and let you > know. In the meantime, I'll keep checking for you. Thanks.... > Blessings, > Wanda Ross > Every evening I turn my troubles over to God - He's going to be > up all night anyway. [Donald J. Morgan, Columbus, Ohio] > http://www.primenet.com/~langford/gen_page.htm

Hi Edward -- Would you happen to know where one might obtain prisoner's lists from Dunbar and Worcester? There are several other researchers who have been trying to locate such lists, without much luck. There's evidently one ship's list for Worcester prisoners online but nothing else. Would prisoners have been listed in Scotland, or in England? What ports were used to send them to the colonies? Any help most appreciated. Judy Edward Andrews wrote: > Not quite. The B of W was fought on 3rd September 1651. > The Scots objected to the English having cut the head off their King > Charles I (despite having been fighting in the War of the three Kingdoms AKA > as the English Civil War on the Parliamentary side.) They crowned Charles II > and went to war on his behalf. After being defeated in the Battles of > Dunbar - 3rd September 1651, they were then again defeated a year later. > Cromwell then set up a military government in Scotland which was united > with England. > > Presbyterians and Scots ultimately have no more cause to love Cromwell than > do English Episcopalians or Irish Roman Catholics. In 1650 he tried to burn > my Church, and having failed, he used it to quarter his troops and as a > stable. > Edward Andrews > ----- Original Message ----- > From: John K Shearer <jk_shearer@email.msn.com> > To: <SCOTLAND-GENWEB-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, September 26, 1999 7:46 PM > Subject: Re: Would appreciate a suggestion. > > > Hi Wanda, > > > > The battle of Worcester was in the English Civil War and if Cromwell > > deported your ancestor after that battle he was on King Charles' side. > > > St. Nicholas Buccleuch Parish Church Dalkeith, Midlothian, Scotland > Visit our Web site http://www.btinternet.com/~stnicholas.buccleuch/index.htm > > ==== SCOTLAND-GENWEB Mailing List ==== > Visit.. ScotlandGenWeb > http://www.rootsweb.com/~sctwgw/ > > ============================== > Support free genealogy on the Internet! Join RootsWeb.com today!

You were not alone! It's a fizzer :-)) Pearl. http://members.tripod.com/PearlsPad/index.htm > Hi James, > > I tried to access the website that you listed below, but > just got the message 'mailformed access method'. Do I have to do anything > else/ > > Thanks, Mandy. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Clan Munro (Association) Australia <clanmunro@hotmail.com> > To: <SCOTLAND-GENWEB-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, September 27, 1999 2:06 PM > Subject: Family Research Website > > > > Just like to let the List members know about this following website. It > may > > help them with their Family Research. They have got thousands & thousands > of > > Links on this website. > > > > http://www.worldwide-top100.net/tops5/rankem.cgi?action=&id=frasbett > > > > James. > >

When I try to access this site, I get "malformed" something or other. Lucille Richmond -----Original Message----- From: Clan Munro (Association) Australia <clanmunro@hotmail.com> To: SCOTLAND-GENWEB-L@rootsweb.com <SCOTLAND-GENWEB-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Sunday, September 26, 1999 9:34 PM Subject: Family Research Website >Just like to let the List members know about this following website. It may >help them with their Family Research. They have got thousands & thousands of >Links on this website. > >http://www.worldwide-top100.net/tops5/rankem.cgi?action=&id=frasbett > >James. > >______________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > >==== SCOTLAND-GENWEB Mailing List ==== >Visit.. ScotlandGenWeb > http://www.rootsweb.com/~sctwgw/ > >============================== >Search the Social Security Death Index online for FREE! >http://ssdi.genealogy.rootsweb.com/ >The most powerful SSDI search engine on the Internet! >

Hi James, I tried to access the website that you listed below, but just got the message 'mailformed access method'. Do I have to do anything else/ Thanks, Mandy. ----- Original Message ----- From: Clan Munro (Association) Australia <clanmunro@hotmail.com> To: <SCOTLAND-GENWEB-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, September 27, 1999 2:06 PM Subject: Family Research Website > Just like to let the List members know about this following website. It may > help them with their Family Research. They have got thousands & thousands of > Links on this website. > > http://www.worldwide-top100.net/tops5/rankem.cgi?action=&id=frasbett > > James. > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > > ==== SCOTLAND-GENWEB Mailing List ==== > Visit.. ScotlandGenWeb > http://www.rootsweb.com/~sctwgw/ > > ============================== > Search the Social Security Death Index online for FREE! > http://ssdi.genealogy.rootsweb.com/ > The most powerful SSDI search engine on the Internet! >

I am at the 300 year marker as of now and hopefully will be working earlier than that some day. I appreciate your response. Regards, Jim At 09:49 PM 09/26/1999 +0100, you wrote: >Hi Jim, > >I think this question is difficult to answer but I will try since nobody >else has responded to you. > >Most of us are lucky if we can trace one or more lines back 300 years and I >would say (subject to correction by experts) that people did not take the >name of the local chief or landowner in that period. > >Before that time Highlanders were clansmen who were, or believed themselves >to be related to their chiefs. However, they would not be known by their >clan names within their own society they would be Jim the son of John i.e. >Seamus Mac Ian. (Apologies in advance for poor spelling of Gaelic words.) >When they left their own society to come south or go west accross the >Atlantic they would probably use a version of their chief's ( their clan's) >name. > >I think a better comparison from your country might be the native Americans. >All of the members of Chiricua Apache Tribe were not related to Cochise but >they al were proud to call themselves Chiricua,. (Apologies in advance for >poor spelling of Native American tribal names. > >The practice was not extensive in the lowlands but in the Borders there was >a similar development with Border clans like the Johnsons, Elliots, >Lindsay's etc. but these names were probably taken several centuries >earlier. > >Hope this helps > >John Shearer > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Jim Fergus <jfergus@sirinet.net> >To: SCOTLAND-GENWEB-L@rootsweb.com <SCOTLAND-GENWEB-L@rootsweb.com> >Date: 26 September 1999 02:50 >Subject: Unidentified subject! > > >> >> Have been advised that tenant farmers, in the old day, did not have, or >>use, a personal surname that they used the surname of the laird, or >>property owner on whose land they worked. Something like the slaves in the >>USA > > > > >==== SCOTLAND-GENWEB Mailing List ==== >Scottish Universities >Their Libraries & Archives >http://www.ozemail.com.au/~jimjar/jimjargg.htm > >============================== >Search the Social Security Death Index online for FREE! >http://ssdi.genealogy.rootsweb.com/ >The most powerful SSDI search engine on the Internet! > >

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I would appreciate a look up of my surname also. Specifically, I am looking for James, Robert, & Bryant Bradeen. Spelling of the last name may have been Brading, Bradean, or any other similar spelling. Thanks in advance. Terry

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Jim, There is something wrong with the URL you gave us. It says malformed access something. Do you have another link? Judy

Hi Amanda, Independence, Mo here Good luck on your project Lady1985@aol.com

Depending on which surname line I want am working on, I have confirmed records of 296 years on my Robinson/Robertson line (1703) and 450 years on my FRICK line (Switzerland - 1550). It gets interesting when you break that barrier. If we can prove the Scotland side of the Robertson line we should be able to go back another 150 years or so. Angus "Scotty" Robinson Jim wrote: >I am at the 300 year marker as of now and hopefully will be working earlier >than that some day. I appreciate your response. >Regards, >Jim >

Hi Charles You need a starting point in Scotland. In Glasgow MacArthur is a fairly common name. You need your Grandmother's maiden name. Then look for a Marriage about 1899/1900 in Glasgow, then a birth in 1901 with those parents. With this Information you could write to the Scottish Record Office for a Marriage certificate and a birth certificate New Register House, Edinburgh EH1 3YT, Scotland, UK. Certificates cost about £12 each providing your data is accurate enough to find the right entry, £5 extra if a search is needed. Don't ask for priority service. That's really for people wanting passports etc. Worse - it doubles the price! Best way to pay is by Visa or Mastercard Jim McArthur Invercargill New Zealand

Brian wrote here re..... > Helen SANDS married Rudolph FELDTMANN 4 March 1853 in Glasgow. The marriage entry details may disappoint. Often the Index data is all that will be found in the original ;~( To find the previous generation, your best leads will be to get: death records of Helen/ Rudolph, and locate them in census/es. Especially the 1861 for Blythswood, get the 1860 birth record of the son Rudolph as it will give a street address! > Sitting on the trapdoor in Melbourne Watch out for 'piders! ALISTAIR M. CAMERON, A.A.G.R.A. also known as ALEC **My Ancestral File No. is TO4M-WJ** Consultant at Mittagong Family History Centre, and trading as CAMERON RESEARCH, Reg. with N.S.W. Dept of Fair Trading. P.O. Box 215 BUNDANOON N.S.W. 2578 AUSTRALIA

Not quite. The B of W was fought on 3rd September 1651. The Scots objected to the English having cut the head off their King Charles I (despite having been fighting in the War of the three Kingdoms AKA as the English Civil War on the Parliamentary side.) They crowned Charles II and went to war on his behalf. After being defeated in the Battles of Dunbar - 3rd September 1651, they were then again defeated a year later. Cromwell then set up a military government in Scotland which was united with England. Presbyterians and Scots ultimately have no more cause to love Cromwell than do English Episcopalians or Irish Roman Catholics. In 1650 he tried to burn my Church, and having failed, he used it to quarter his troops and as a stable. Edward Andrews ----- Original Message ----- From: John K Shearer <jk_shearer@email.msn.com> To: <SCOTLAND-GENWEB-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, September 26, 1999 7:46 PM Subject: Re: Would appreciate a suggestion. > Hi Wanda, > > The battle of Worcester was in the English Civil War and if Cromwell > deported your ancestor after that battle he was on King Charles' side. > St. Nicholas Buccleuch Parish Church Dalkeith, Midlothian, Scotland Visit our Web site http://www.btinternet.com/~stnicholas.buccleuch/index.htm

My GG Grandfather Hugh McIntosh fought in the Battle of Trafalgar (1805), probably aboard HMS Bellerophon. Apparently he was press-ganged as a fisherman at Leith Docks in Edinburgh. Anyone know how I could verify this? He was the father of George McIntosh from Eddrachillis, Sutherland. His wife's name was Janet Sutherland. Dates of birth/marriage/death would also be very useful. Regards, Gordon Robertson My homepage is http://www.monkton-farleigh.freeserve.co.uk

At one time there was a site that one could search for BMD records in Victoria, Australia. Is this site still active? I can't find it at all. Thanks for any help, Janet Tparkie@aol.com

Hi Jim, I think this question is difficult to answer but I will try since nobody else has responded to you. Most of us are lucky if we can trace one or more lines back 300 years and I would say (subject to correction by experts) that people did not take the name of the local chief or landowner in that period. Before that time Highlanders were clansmen who were, or believed themselves to be related to their chiefs. However, they would not be known by their clan names within their own society they would be Jim the son of John i.e. Seamus Mac Ian. (Apologies in advance for poor spelling of Gaelic words.) When they left their own society to come south or go west accross the Atlantic they would probably use a version of their chief's ( their clan's) name. I think a better comparison from your country might be the native Americans. All of the members of Chiricua Apache Tribe were not related to Cochise but they al were proud to call themselves Chiricua,. (Apologies in advance for poor spelling of Native American tribal names. The practice was not extensive in the lowlands but in the Borders there was a similar development with Border clans like the Johnsons, Elliots, Lindsay's etc. but these names were probably taken several centuries earlier. Hope this helps John Shearer -----Original Message----- From: Jim Fergus <jfergus@sirinet.net> To: SCOTLAND-GENWEB-L@rootsweb.com <SCOTLAND-GENWEB-L@rootsweb.com> Date: 26 September 1999 02:50 Subject: Unidentified subject! > > Have been advised that tenant farmers, in the old day, did not have, or >use, a personal surname that they used the surname of the laird, or >property owner on whose land they worked. Something like the slaves in the >USA