Good evening, John: Could you explain why, when I'm looking for 3 Laing Terrace, Hawick, Roxburghshire, I get a list of addresses as follows: 2/1 Laing Terrace 3/1 Laing Terrace 1a Laing Terrace 1b Laing Terrace 1c Laing Terrace 1d Laing Terrace 1e Laing Terrace 2/2 Laing Terrace 2/3 Laing Terrace 3/2 Laing Terrace 3/3 Laing Terrace ?? I was looking for the home of two sisters, Mary and Margaret Sanderson, who lived at 3 Laing Terrace. Do the 2/1, 3/1, 2/2, 2/3, 3/2, and 3/3 indicate apartments in buildings, or what do they signify? Lucille Richmond <cwrichmond@snet.net> -----Original Message----- From: John Oyston <John@ukgenealogy.co.uk> To: SCOTLAND-GENWEB-L@rootsweb.com <SCOTLAND-GENWEB-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Thursday, October 14, 1999 6:23 PM Subject: Personal Ancestral File Update >The LDS have released version 4.0.2 of Personal Ancestral File; the file >is 3.55mb and can be download and used, without restriction, entirely free >of charge . I have changed the link on the July additions page of Freebies >for Genealogists http://freebies.genealogy.org to the new version. > >Several "bugs" have been fixed and new features include: > >search and replace place-names and multimedia file names; >include multimedia when exporting GEDCOM files; >edit Ancestral File numbers (AFNs),personal names and dates; >search FamilySearch Internet; > merge duplicate source citations >John Oyston > >For FREE software and other resources, including on-line UK street >maps, visit Freebies for Genealogists http://freebies.genealogy.org > >Get Paid to surf the web! Too good to be true? >Visit http://www.alladvantage.com/home.asp?refid=DOF079 > > >==== SCOTLAND-GENWEB Mailing List ==== >Think BEFORE you post ! > >============================== >FREE UNLIMITED Web space at RootsWeb! >Any subject: genealogy, computers, pets! Get your Freepages account today: >http://cgi.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/acctform.cgi >

I am trying to find an young orphan girl from Scotland please send any info on the ship with the orphan boys thanks Merry B mrsb@lcc.net ----- Original Message ----- From: Betty Wintersteen <BAWWYN@webtv.net> To: <SCOTLAND-GENWEB-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, October 14, 1999 11:11 AM Subject: 1881 Census > > In playing around with the CDs again, this time the census listed as > Navy, came across a list for the ship "MANITOBAN." > > It's a long list which I will post later in pieces. However, there were > young boys listed as passengers with the occupation listed as Orphan > Home Boy. I have sent an inquiry to the ShipList to see if anyone knows > where that ship was headed. > > The boys were mostly from Glasgow and ranged from age 6 to 18. > > The list also included a lot of passengers from Ireland - families, > single people, etc. > I will post all of it later. In the meantime, does anyone have any > ideas about why these boys were leaving? Or where they were headed? > And why? > > Betty Wintersteen, Ipswich, Massachusetts > http://bawwyn@webtv.net > -------------------------------------- > As guardians of our family history, it is up to us to pass it on to > future generations. > -------------------------------------- > Searching ORKNEY-Montrose; Margaret (Maggie) Potter; John Potter, Elsie > Potter, Frances Potter, Mary Potter, Mabel Potter of Bents Row, > Montrose, circa early 1900's. > Family of Jessie Thompson nee Orkney, Massachusetts. Family of Isabella > Lowe nee Orkney, Montreal, Canada > ---------------------------------------- > > http://community.webtv.net/BAWWYN/OURFAMILYROOTS > > > ==== SCOTLAND-GENWEB Mailing List ==== > For Scotland history..... > http://members.aol.com/Skyelander/timeline.html > > ============================== > FREE UNLIMITED Web space at RootsWeb! > Any subject: genealogy, computers, pets! Get your Freepages account today: > http://cgi.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/acctform.cgi > >

Hi Since there are members of this list who are know a lot about the Archbishops of St Andrews, possibly someone can direct me to some further information. Cardinal David BEATON, Archbishop of St Andrews, was murdered in his castle. The people involved were later tried for treason. I have seen a brief note about the trial in a book I found in the Hay-Fleming?? library during a visit to St Andrews. I presume that a more complete trial record exists somewhere, and I was wondering where I should look. What I am most interested in is the names of the 18, and the details about their punishment. I believe all were executed, but I was wondering if there was a list of what land was seized. John KNOX was involved in this, but was only imprisoned. Probably because he was not one of those who occupied the castle after the murder of Beaton. I have reason to believe that one of those executed was a SEGGIE. My direct ancestor. I believe that there was land seized at Guardbridge (near St Andrews) that ended up owned by the HAIG family who sited a distillery there. I believe that there was land seized on the Tay downstream from Perth that was later used by HAYs. Possibly on both shores of the river. There may be a third parcel of land towards Inverness. Any help in finding any of this information would be GREATLY appreciated. Alex -- Ottawa, Ontario, Canada 613-727-7406 Researching: SEGGIEs (everywhere), CARYLs (Birmingham England), PRINGLEs & SUTHERLANDs (Edinburgh Scotland)

Hi Betty: The Canadian Pacific Railway Line had a ship called the Lake Manitoba. It sailed from Liverpool via Belfast to Quebec and Montreal, Quebec. I don't know about the boys that would have been passengers. I found this ship with relatives sailing from Liverpool. Hope this is of some helpt. Regards, Esther Scott Toronto, Ontario.

The LDS have released version 4.0.2 of Personal Ancestral File; the file is 3.55mb and can be download and used, without restriction, entirely free of charge . I have changed the link on the July additions page of Freebies for Genealogists http://freebies.genealogy.org to the new version. Several "bugs" have been fixed and new features include: search and replace place-names and multimedia file names; include multimedia when exporting GEDCOM files; edit Ancestral File numbers (AFNs),personal names and dates; search FamilySearch Internet; merge duplicate source citations John Oyston For FREE software and other resources, including on-line UK street maps, visit Freebies for Genealogists http://freebies.genealogy.org Get Paid to surf the web! Too good to be true? Visit http://www.alladvantage.com/home.asp?refid=DOF079

Hi Keith, Thanks for that info. Can you advise what is the cost of the book Settlers Under Sail and could it be sent to a point in Perth, W.A. where I shall be for four weeks December' Regards, Fay Will (Leven, Fife) e-mail address: faywill@leven54.freeserve.co.uk >>In compiling the story of a nautical journey to Oz from U.K. can anyone >>advise of a good global map I could download please to chart course of ship. >>Replies appreciated and thanks. >> >> >>Fay Will (Leven, Fife) > >Fay - the early route was from England to Capetown then eastwards with the >roaring forties to Melbourne (Port Phillip), hopefully not running aground >in Bass Strait or the Port Phillip heads towards the end of the journey. >The later route, faster but more dangerous (but what the hell, time was >money and passenger comfort and safety were not important) was by the Great >Circle Route,into the Southern Ocean some 800 miles south of Capetown and >then east to Melbourne, dodging the antarctic icebergs on the way. One >ship at least disappeared completely and others limped into Melbourne after >striking icebergs. Don Charlwood's book "Settlers Under Sail", Burgewood >Books, Melbourne, describes the era well. Contact me for more details. > >> >__________________________ >Keith Dash >Sydney, Australia > > >==== SCOTLAND-GENWEB Mailing List ==== >For up to date info, try: >http://www.scotland.net/ > >============================== >Free Web space. ANY amount. ANY subject. >RootsWeb's Freepages put you in touch with millions. >http://cgi.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/acctform.cgi > >

She was called Isabel See Men of the Covenant Smellie. Banner of Truth 1960 Edward Andrews ----- Original Message ----- From: <MRICH10000@aol.com> To: <SCOTLAND-GENWEB-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, October 14, 1999 9:03 PM Subject: Archbishop James Sharp > Dear Listers, > I just know what I have done with it, but I cannot locate the name of > the Daughter of Archbishop James Sharp, but I cant find it now. I have > searched for hours, but to no avail. > James Sharp, Archbishop of St. Andrews was murdered by a group of > Conventors in 1679 at Magus Moor in Fife. He was traveling with his daughter > at the time of the assination. > Will someone please E-mail me with her name. I will really appreciate > it. Also if you have any facts regarding this assination or the events which > either led up to it or those which followed, please let me know that as well. > Actually, I would just love to get all of the info which I can get. > > Thank You > > Mel Rich > E-mail: MRich10000@AOL.com > > > ==== SCOTLAND-GENWEB Mailing List ==== > Think BEFORE you post ! > > ============================== > RootsWeb.com now offers UNLIMITED Web space for FREE! > Sign up today for RootsWeb's Freepages program: > http://cgi.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/acctform.cgi > >

The National Archives of Scotland in Edinburgh have photocopies of the surviving records kept by Roman Catholic Parish priests of baptisms, marriages and deaths. These records are arranged by diocese and date from 1703, although most of the Registers do not start until the 19th century. Donald Maclean. >PEGGYJAI2@aol.com wrote: >> >> don >> >> I've been advised by a relative in Canada that it is almost impossible to get >> record info on Catholics in Scotland during the 1800's; how true is this, to >> the best of your knowledge >> >> Peggy >> ..................................................................... > >Peggy - >All I know is that the official PARISH records (OPR) at the General >Record Office in Edinburgh are ONLY for the Church of Scotland >parishes. There may be SOME extra info., but I don't know the details. >This is before national registration was introduced in 1855 (?) - after >that ALL citizens were registered at the GRO. > >I have heard that the Catholic Church kept their own records - >presumably Baptism and Marriage, possibly burial (?). >I'm afraid I have no idea how to access this information. >I suppose it depends how much you know - if you know the (Catholic) >Parish you could write to the Parish Church. ??? > > >Ask on one of the Genealogy Mailing Lists like >Scotland-Genweb-L at Rootsweb or >Scots-Origins at egroups > >Hope this helps a little? > > >-- >Don McEwan >West Lothian >SCOTLAND > >Jings, Crivvens & Help Ma Boab.! ><mailto:don.mcewan@virgin.net> > > >==== SCOTLAND-GENWEB Mailing List ==== >Hundreds of Scot Urls....... > http://celt.net/og/angscot3.htm > http://celt.net/og/angscot2.htm > http://celt.net/og/angscot.htm > >============================== >FREE UNLIMITED Web space at RootsWeb! >Any subject: genealogy, computers, pets! Get your Freepages account today: >http://cgi.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/acctform.cgi >

Hi Kate, Thanks very much. Soo quick as well. Regards George

Hi all, Could SKS please lookup my - John COBBAN(b1848,Abd?) m.1873 Annie Milne DUGUID(b.1853 Fyvie) Aberdeen,Abd. children before 1881 - Margaret Walker b.17 Dec 1874 Alexnader b.1876 Annie Snodgrass b.1878 Isabella Ironside b.1880 and those born after - John George b.1882 Edith W b.1883 Alfred W b.1888 Adalina b.1888 Bessie b.1896 Johns parents were John COBBAN (d.<1881.Probably Peterculter)m.1841 Ann SNODGRASS(died Apr 1887,aged 70, Peterculter) Old Machar,Abd. Their children, Margaret b1843 James b.1847 John b.1848 William Low b.1849 Would be most grateful for any help. TIA George London UK

Same Day (ie the date in the preceding entry). -----Original Message----- From: Wstjs@aol.com <Wstjs@aol.com> To: SCOTLAND-GENWEB-L@rootsweb.com <SCOTLAND-GENWEB-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Thursday, October 14, 1999 4:07 PM Subject: Dates, "Eodem diem" >I'm reading marriages on a Scotland film and I found one date listed as >"Eodem diem". Can anyone tell me what this means? > >Janet > >______________________________

To Alec Cameron: Thank you for your info re Dalziel and Uddingston. Much appreciated. My apologies to you and the list for my lack of consideration regarding my request for a lookup in the Kirkden census reports. I had no idea it would be such a difficult task. Unfortunately I have no other info except "Parish of Kirkden". I will attempt to get better particulars. Thank you again for your help. Pat, Mission, B.C.

In playing around with the CDs again, this time the census listed as Navy, came across a list for the ship "MANITOBAN." It's a long list which I will post later in pieces. However, there were young boys listed as passengers with the occupation listed as Orphan Home Boy. I have sent an inquiry to the ShipList to see if anyone knows where that ship was headed. The boys were mostly from Glasgow and ranged from age 6 to 18. The list also included a lot of passengers from Ireland - families, single people, etc. I will post all of it later. In the meantime, does anyone have any ideas about why these boys were leaving? Or where they were headed? And why? Betty Wintersteen, Ipswich, Massachusetts http://bawwyn@webtv.net - ------------------------------------ As guardians of our family history, it is up to us to pass it on to future generations. - ------------------------------------ Searching ORKNEY-Montrose; Margaret (Maggie) Potter; John Potter, Elsie Potter, Frances Potter, Mary Potter, Mabel Potter of Bents Row, Montrose, circa early 1900's. Family of Jessie Thompson nee Orkney, Massachusetts. Family of Isabella Lowe nee Orkney, Montreal, Canada - -------------------------------------- http://community.webtv.net/BAWWYN/OURFAMILYROOTS

Dear Listers, I just know what I have done with it, but I cannot locate the name of the Daughter of Archbishop James Sharp, but I cant find it now. I have searched for hours, but to no avail. James Sharp, Archbishop of St. Andrews was murdered by a group of Conventors in 1679 at Magus Moor in Fife. He was traveling with his daughter at the time of the assination. Will someone please E-mail me with her name. I will really appreciate it. Also if you have any facts regarding this assination or the events which either led up to it or those which followed, please let me know that as well. Actually, I would just love to get all of the info which I can get. Thank You Mel Rich E-mail: MRich10000@AOL.com

Dwelling: Tillyoch Cottage Census Place: Peterculter, Aberdeen, Scotland Source: FHL Film 0203463 GRO Ref Volume 231 EnumDist 2 Page 5 Marr Age Sex Birthplace John COBBAN M 33 M Aberdeen, Aberdeen, Scotland Rel: Head Occ: Clerk Paper Works Annie COBBAN M 30 F Fyvie, Aberdeen, Scotland Rel: Wife Occ: Clerks Wife Margaret Walker COBBAN 6 F Peterculter, Aberdeen, Scotland Rel: Dau Occ: Scholar Alexander COBBAN 4 M Peterculter, Aberdeen, Scotland Rel: Son Annie Snodgrass COBBAN 2 F Peterculter, Aberdeen, Scotland Rel: Dau Isabella Ironside COBBAN 10 m F Peterculter, Aberdeen, Scotland Rel: Dau

I have noticed many requests for lookups in censuses other than the indexed ones of 1881 and 1891. Have I missed something? Are there indexes for any of the other censuses? Mary Searles in Kentucky

On Sat, 9 Oct 1999 14:06:33 +0100, "Tom Currie" <tom@currie8.freeserve.co.uk> wrote: >Can anyone tell me where to look for records of recipients of the Military >Medal? >My brother in law's father was awarded the medal during the 1914 -18 war for >"Bravery in the Field" and although he has the actual medal, he would like >to know some of the background as to how his father won it. He was in the >Scots Guards serving in France at the time. >Where should I look first I'm afraid that there is only a slim chance of finding out why he was awarded the Military Medal. Announcements of this award, as with all other gallantry awards, were made in the London Gazette. However over 115,000 Military medals were awarded, and the London Gazette did not have space to print the "citations" for each medal, as the reasons for award are called. The LG is certainly proof that he was awarded the medal, but not why. You may want to go to a large library and see if you can find the relevant entry in the London Gazette. This will at least give you the date of the award, and that is a start. The usual method to find a reason for award is to look at the relevant Regimental or Battalion histories. Some of the more detailed volumes will carry a story about a particular action and finish by saying "For his courage, Pte Smith was awarded the Military Medal" or words to that effect. Local newspapers for his home town might also give brief details, although they are more likely to give a photograph of him, rather than saying why the MM was awarded. The main history of the regiment during the war is: The Scots Guards in the Great War, 1914-1918 by F Loraine Petre, Wilfred Ewart and Maj Gen Sir Cecil Lowther, 1925, 349 pages. His Army documents may have survived the bombing in WW2, and now be available to the public, or become available over the next few years. The Public Record Office says that no citations are contained in them, but there are often surprises at what is contained in a set of Army documents! The Guards Museum may also be able to help: Correspondence to: The Guards Museum, Wellington Barracks, Birdcage Walk, London, SW1E 6HQ, England Telephone: +44 (0)171 4143271; 4143428 Exhibits of weapons, uniforms, Colours & Trophies illustrate 300 year history of Grenadier, Coldstream, Scots, Welsh and Irish Foot Guards, with displays on Waterloo, Crimea, World War II & Falklands. Hope that's a start... Forrest -- Forrest Anderson, Edinburgh, Scotland. E-mail: forrestdale@dial.pipex.com Website: http://dspace.dial.pipex.com/forrestdale/index.html Forrest Research - Military Researcher and Book-finder, specialising in British Army/Navy/Air Force Lists, and Biographical Dictionaries.

I'm reading marriages on a Scotland film and I found one date listed as "Eodem diem". Can anyone tell me what this means? Janet

Thanks for taking the time out to do the look-ups. Much appreciated. Toni ----Original Message Follows---- From: Alan Paterson <alanp@paranor.ch> Reply-To: SCOTLAND-GENWEB-L@rootsweb.com To: SCOTLAND-GENWEB-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: 1881 Census Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1999 15:59:02 +0200 Toni Marshall wrote: > Hi, > as I still haven't received my copy of the census, can someone please look > up the following people for me:- > Alexander (Smith) HUDSON: born 26/11/1849 in Arbroath, Angus I tried Alexander Hudson born in Angus - no luck I tried Alexander Hudson born in Forfar (county containing Arbroath) - no luck > Joseph SMART: born 18/9/1862 in St. Vigeans, Angus The following is present, but it says born in Dundee: Dwelling: 43 Arbroath Road Census Place: Dundee, Forfar, Scotland Source: FHL Film 0203486 GRO Ref Volume 282-4 EnumDist 7 Page 23 Marr Age Sex Birthplace Alexander Sharp SMART M 29 M Montrose, Forfar, Scotland Rel: Head Occ: Boiler Maker Margaret SMART M 28 F Aberdeen, Aberdeen, Scotland Rel: Wife Elizabeth Sharp SMART 5 F Dundee, Forfar, Scotland Rel: Daur Occ: Scholar Margaret SMART 3 F Dundee, Forfar, Scotland Rel: Daur Alexander SMART 2 M Dundee, Forfar, Scotland Rel: Son Jane SMART 7 m F Dundee, Forfar, Scotland Rel: Daur Joseph SMART U 20 M Dundee, Forfar, Scotland <==================== Rel: Brother Occ: Boiler Maker > Also, in case she ddn't get married:- > Cecilia HUDSON, born 13/3/1856 in Inverkeilor, Angus Sorry. Nothing there. Alan ==== SCOTLAND-GENWEB Mailing List ==== Hundreds of Scot Urls....... http://celt.net/og/angscot3.htm http://celt.net/og/angscot2.htm http://celt.net/og/angscot.htm ============================== Caught an error in the Social Security Death Index? Use RootsWeb's POST-EMS to post a note about it! http://ssdi.genealogy.rootsweb.com/ ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

>To List, > >In compiling the story of a nautical journey to Oz from U.K. can anyone >advise of a good global map I could download please to chart course of ship. >Replies appreciated and thanks. > > >Fay Will (Leven, Fife) Fay - the early route was from England to Capetown then eastwards with the roaring forties to Melbourne (Port Phillip), hopefully not running aground in Bass Strait or the Port Phillip heads towards the end of the journey. The later route, faster but more dangerous (but what the hell, time was money and passenger comfort and safety were not important) was by the Great Circle Route,into the Southern Ocean some 800 miles south of Capetown and then east to Melbourne, dodging the antarctic icebergs on the way. One ship at least disappeared completely and others limped into Melbourne after striking icebergs. Don Charlwood's book "Settlers Under Sail", Burgewood Books, Melbourne, describes the era well. Contact me for more details. > __________________________ Keith Dash Sydney, Australia