Dear listers: As you may recall I sent page 9 of the census for the above. In going back into the CDs find the other pages. I will be sending them piece-meal as in total there were 24 pages. - --------------------------------------------------- "Royal Lunatic Asylum of Montrose" Sunnyside Montrose, Forfar, Scotland FHL film 0203498 GRO Ref. 312 EnumDist 34 Page 1 Marr. Age Sex Place of Birth James C. HOWDEN M 50 M Musselburgh, Edinburgh Rel. Head Occ: Doctor of Medicine Eliza HOWDEN M 41 M Canada Rel. Wife Occ: Doctors Wife John FORDYCE U 20 M Forfar, Forfar Rel. Boarde Occ: Mason Mary R. FARQUHARSON U 28 F Drumoak, Aberdeen Rel. Serv. Occ: Domestic Servant Cook Mary FINDLAY U 20 F Aboyne, Aberdeen Rel. Serv. Occ: Domestic Servant Housemaid William J. DODDS U 26 M England Rel. Officer Occ: Doctor of Medicine George CRUICKSHANK U 35 M Fordoun, Kincardine Rel. Officer Occ: House Steward Helen BURNESS U 59 F Montrose, Forfar Rel. Officer Occ: Matron Robert EMSLIE U 35 M Kemney, Aberdeen Rel. Officer Occ: Head Attendant Jane LUNDAINE U 40 F St. Cuthberts, Edinburgh Rel. Officer Occ: Matron Sarah WOOD U 30 F Montrose, Forfar Rel. Officer Occ: Head Female Attendant David GOURLAY M -- M ------- Rel. Serv. Occ: Male Attendant David DORWARD M 24 M Montrose, Forfar Rel. Serv. Occ Male Attendant (Head) William NICOLL U 2 M Fordoun, Kincardine Rel. Serv. Occ: Male Attendant John FINDLAY 57 M Dundee, Forfar Rel. Serv. Occ: Male Attendant John BURNESS U 26 M Birse, Aberdeen Rel. Serv. Occ: Male Attendant William ADAMS U 23 M St. Fergus, Aberdeen Rel. Serv. Occ: Male Attendant Francis FERRIER U 33 M Edzell, Forfar Rel. Serv. Occ: Male Attendant William JAPP U 26 M Arbuthnott, Kincardine Rel. Serv. Occ: Male Attendant William MC INTYRE W 29 M Cairney, Aberdeen Rel. Serv. Occ: Male Attendant PAGE 2 Marr. Age Sex Place of Birth James COLLIE U 32 M Fordoun, Kincardine Rel. Sev. Occ: Attendant John BUCHAN U 26 M Tarves, Aberdeen Rel. Serv. Occ: Attendant Alexandr HUNTER U 26 M Logie Pert, Forfar Rel. Serv. Occ: Attendant David ST..... M 34 M St. Adrews Lang..., Elgin Rel. Serv. Occ: Attendant George MIDDLETON M 65 M Arbuthnott, Kincardine Rel. Serv. Occ: Tailor Harry SMITH M 34 M Dunbog, Fife Rel. Serv. Occ: Attendant Betsy DORWARD 32 F Montrose, Forfar Rel. Serv. Occ: Attendant Isabella MOIG U 26 F Marykirk, Kincardine Rel. Serv. Occ: Attendant Ann MENZIES U 24 F Montrose, Forfar Rel. Serv. Occ: Attendant Eliza MITCHELL U 18 F Kinneff, Kincardine Rel. Serv. Occ: Attendant Elizabeth VALENTINE U 35 F Montrose, Forfar Rel. Serv. Occ: Attendant Annie WORKMAN W 29 F Montrose, Forfar Rel. Serv. Occ: Attendant Jane MC LEAN U 28 F Montrose, Forfar Rel. Serv. Occ: Attendant Ann DUNCAN U 37 F Montrose, Forfar Rel. Serv. Occ: Attendant Henrietta A.B. MC KAY U 36 F Forres, Aberdeen Rel. Serv. Occ: Attendant Elizabeth HARPER U 27 F Dun, Forfar Rel. Serv. Occ: Attendant Betsy DUNCAN U 33 F Montrose, Forfar Rel. Serv. Occ: Attendant Mary FINDLAY U 27 F Montrose, Forfar Rel. Serv. Occ: Attendant Mary GAUDIE W 52 F New Machar, Aberdeen Rel. Serv. Occ: Attendant Margaret FINDLAY U 29 F Dallas, Elgin Rel. Serv. Occ: Attendant Margaret NICOLL U 30 F Fordoun, Kincardine Rel. Serv. Occ: Laundess Dom. Serv. Mary CRUICKSHANK U 25 F Laurencekirk, Kincardine Rel. Serv. Occ: Dairymaid Dom. Serv. Catherine PATON U 38 F Craig, Forfar Rel. Serv. Occ: Laundess Dom. Serv. Mary SIMPSON U 21 F Craig, Forfar Rel. Serv. Occ: Dairymaid Dom. Serv. Betty Wintersteen, Ipswich, Massachusetts http://bawwyn@webtv.net - ------------------------------------ As guardians of our family history, it is up to us to pass it on to future generations. - ------------------------------------ Searching ORKNEY-Montrose; Margaret (Maggie) Potter; John Potter, Elsie Potter, Frances Potter, Mary Potter, Mabel Potter of Bents Row, Montrose, circa early 1900's. Family of Jessie Thompson nee Orkney, Massachusetts. Family of Isabella Lowe nee Orkney, Montreal, Canada - -------------------------------------- http://community.webtv.net/BAWWYN/OURFAMILYROOTS

Hi, Did not catch the original message only the reply below, so am sending this to the list in the hope that the original sender will see it. Newhall Street is, according to my 1989 Glasgow Street directory which I admit will now be out of date, not far from Bridgeton Cross, to the west off a street called Main Street (Bridgeton Main Street?). In the Post Office Directory of 1958/59 there are only a few numbers listed (35, 57, 34 and 32), suggesting that the rest of the street may have been demolished before this time, as much of this area was. The 1881 census lists 20 fanlies at this address, including Ann CRAIG. The reference si volume 644/1 enum dist 43 page 13, in case you have not found this. She is there with her daughter, Elizabeth. If you have not seen this extract,let me know and I will send you what there is. Best regards Karen MacRae In message <000201bf1803$cfd56320$6049fea9@windows>, Edward Andrews <edward.andrews@btinternet.com> writes > >----- Original Message ----- >From: <OldMapsNE@aol.com> >To: <SCOTLAND-GENWEB-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Saturday, October 16, 1999 2:20 PM >Subject: Re: SCOTLAND-GENWEB-D Digest V99 #598 > > >> I have three questions that I hope someone can help me with ... >> >> I have this possible address for my great-great-grandmother Ann Cunningham >> Craig (widow of Alexander Craig) in the late 1800s: 3 Newhall Street, >> Barony, Lanark, Scotland ... When I go to Scotland next year, will I be >able >> to find this address? > The Barony is basically the area of Glasgow which has been taken over by >Strathclyde University. Even if the address exists, I would not look to see >the original house. > However a visit to the Mitchell Library will put you on the right track. Do >not be disappointed however of the place where the house was is a road. > >> My great-grandfather James MacDougall Craig and his brothers and sisters >were >> baptised at the London Road United Presbyterian Church, Glasgow, Lanark, >> Scotland, between 1854 and 1865. I have been told that the church no >longer >> exists ... where would the records from the 1800s be now? Could anyone >guess >> where the present-day Craig family would be attending church? > > The records of the Church would be in the Scottish Archives. All Church >records are supposed to be deposited there. > If I may say so, speculation about where a family might be attending >Church is a rather futile experiment. > In the last 130 Years Glasgow has undergone tremendous social changes. (The >changes in the last 60 have almost amounted to Glasgow reinventing itself) >The Church itself will have undergone two changes of denomination, and at >least one of name (I suspect that it was probably called London Road East >before it closed). > The community will have been redeveloped, and the family will probably have >experienced social mobility. > In the same way as the branch which you are connected to moved, so it is >quite likely that the rest of the family moved. > Assuming that they stayed in Glasgow they might be in one of the Peripheral >Housing estates. Where would you expect your family to be in 130 years time? >Edward Andrews >St. Nicholas Buccleuch Parish Church Dalkeith, Midlothian, Scotland >Visit our Web site http://www.btinternet.com/~stnicholas.buccleuch/index.htm > > > > >==== SCOTLAND-GENWEB Mailing List ==== >For up to date info, try: >http://www.scotland.net/ > >============================== >RootsWeb.com now offers UNLIMITED Web space for FREE! >Sign up today for RootsWeb's Freepages program: >http://cgi.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/acctform.cgi > -- Karen MacRae

Do you have any Lauries comming into Ontario, Canada? -----Original Message----- From: sandyl <sandyl@pathway.net> To: SCOTLAND-GENWEB-L@rootsweb.com <SCOTLAND-GENWEB-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Sunday, October 24, 1999 12:06 AM Subject: Lauries in 1891 >Would SKS help me find the Lauries? I have them in Cathcart, Renfrewshire >at the time of the 1881 census. I'm looking for James and Martha Laurie(If >they were still alive at that time)and their sons, John and Charles, who >would have been 33 and about 25. > >Thanks, >Sandy Laurie >Jamestown, PA, USA > > >==== SCOTLAND-GENWEB Mailing List ==== >Genealogy Help List >http://posom.com/hl/ > >============================== >RootsWeb.com now offers UNLIMITED Web space for FREE! >Sign up today for RootsWeb's Freepages program: >http://cgi.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/acctform.cgi > >

Hi Anette, you do know you can send your messages to a folder? Well juste seperate your folders into different types. Whenever you want to keep a message click on the title then chose send to, when on folder click to chose a new name. This way you can keep all your messages in different folders. If you need more instructions I would be glad to send it to you in more details. Yours truly Joanne ;-) ----- Original Message ----- From: Annette Pringle <annettepringle@ozemail.com.au> To: <SCOTLAND-GENWEB-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: 23/10/99 14:39 Subject: off topic > Hello everyone > > Sorry this is off topic but I thought someone out there might be able to help me. I am using Outlook Express and save my incoming mail if it is of any interest, eg. names I am researching, links that look interesting until I get a chance to get back to them. My problem is, that if I have to leave it I have trouble trying to find out where I was up to and then have start going through them again. I know that I could write it on a piece of paper but then I would have to find that!! Is there someway that I can mark where I was up to? Hope this is not too big an ask but I feel it may be something other peole would like to know too. > > Cheers > > from Annette in a very overcast, wet day in Dubbo NSW > > > ==== SCOTLAND-GENWEB Mailing List ==== > For Scotland history..... > http://members.aol.com/Skyelander/timeline.html > > ============================== > Free Web space. ANY amount. ANY subject. > RootsWeb's Freepages put you in touch with millions. > http://cgi.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/acctform.cgi >

Hi Susan, Sorry to take so long to reply, but I have been away for a few weeks. The extract is as follows: Dwelling - 54 Roslea (sic) Drive Census Place - Barony, Lanark, Scotland Source - FHL Film 0203639 GRO Ref - Vol 644-3 Enum dist 44 page 23 Alexander Lamont married, age 37, male, born Johnstone, Renfrew, Scotland. Head of household, occupation - Teacher of English Etc (sic) Maggie Lamont, married, age 35, female, born Stonehouse, Lanark, Scotland,relationship to head - wife. Alexander B. Lamont, age 2, male, born Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland relationship to head - son Thomas F. Lamont, age 7 months, male, born Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland relationship to head - son. Hope this is your family. Best regards Karen MacRae In message <OC4FOJIsrS+dIEq1i=Ayr=LXb4kq@4ax.com>, Susan Gibb <sgibb@minet.gov.mb.ca> writes >On Tue, 12 Oct 1999 22:10:51 +0100, you wrote: > >Actually the comment about 54 Roselea was from me. My great >grandfather was Alexander Lamont, if you can extract any details, I'd >sure appreciate it. Guess I didn't read your message to Lois as >carefully as I should have. > >Susan > >sgibb@minet.gov.mb.ca > >>

Dear April, I checked my copy of "A Register of Emigrant Families from the Western Isles of Scotland to Ontario, Canada - Part 1 Bruce, Grey & Huron Counties etc", and there is a Malcolm Campbell listed. I would be interested in your source for the date of 1840. The earliest recorded settlers to Huron Township were circa 1849/50, and the land wasn't officially offered for sale until July 30th, 1852. Was your Malcolm married or single at the time he emigrated? The Malcolm listed among the Lewis settlers, came over as a bachelor, in 1851. Hope this proves helpful, Cathy. > Subject: Isle of Lewis to Ontario > Date: Sat, 23 Oct 1999 10:05:17 -0400 > From: April Campbell <acampbell@ionline.net> > To: SCOTLAND-GENWEB-L@rootsweb.com > > Hi All, > > I am hoping that someone out there can supply me with any information > regarding immigration from the Isle of Lewis to Ontario (specifically Bruce > County) after 1840. I have been researching my gg grandfather, Malsolm > CAMPBELL, who was there is 1840. He settled in Huron Township, Bruce County > where many immigrants from the Isle of Lewis also settled. > > I am looking for the ships that they came on and anything else that may help > me to find my ancestor. > > Thanks for any help, > April Campbell > Researching Campbell, Pettigrew, McLean, Townsend, Mathieson and Card. -- Cathy B.J. Moir (Ontario, Canada) Webmistress, Bruce County GenWeb: http://www.bmts.com/~cmoir/BruceCountyGW.html Researching:(Scotland) DUNSMUIR, LAWSON, McCREADIE, McCORMICK/McCORMACK, SUTTIE/SOUTTIE, SYM, DRANNEN/DRENNAN, REE/RAE, MOIR, HENDERSON, MACDONNELL, MACMILLAN, and countless others... (Ontario) HELM, EVANS, DRENNAN.

Hi Michael, Thank you for the message. So far I haven't found any variations for the name EDGE in my research. I have John/Jack EDGE who married Ann FOSTER/FORSTER/FORRESTER at Chester in 1872 John was born Tarvin, Cheshire c 1850 and Ann c 1852 at Ellesmere Port. All their children seem to have been born in Cheshire. Who knows what I'll find when I get further back. Thought "EDGE" was an uncommon name when I got married in Aust. My husband came out here aged 12 When I started to research the name, I found there were dozens of John Edge in the records. Good luck with your research. Regards from Nancy Edge in Australia. -----Original Message----- From: Michael D Stenhouse <michael.stenhouse@vf.telia.no> To: SCOTLAND-GENWEB-L@rootsweb.com <SCOTLAND-GENWEB-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Friday, October 22, 1999 9:40 PM Subject: SV: Please write again-lost everthing >Dear Nancy, >My mothers maiden name is EDGES. She comes from Grimsby and I have trouble finding any connections. >Do you have variations of the EDGE name which originate from Lincs or Yorks? >Best wishes, >Michael. > > >==== SCOTLAND-GENWEB Mailing List ==== >Beware of the Genealogy Bug; >It's bite can be addictive! > >============================== >Free Web space. ANY amount. ANY subject. >RootsWeb's Freepages put you in touch with millions. >http://cgi.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/acctform.cgi > >

Midnight Sun/Mon 1841 June 6th/7th 1851 March 30th/31st 1861 April 7th/8th 1871 April 2nd/3rd 1881 April 3rd/4th 1891 April 5th/6th Rick McMeechan

Please can someone unearth a puzzle for me. I found the people I wanted on the 1881 census , printed out a page and then at a later stage went back to check on neighbours and they have gone . No matter what I type in, with date , mispelling of names or even trying to find them through the emum district of someone else they just dont reappear. Have I done something different. This goes for any of the people I have searched for in the past and in all districts. Barbara

I cannot get access to census fiches without a journey of 150 miles! Would some kind soul with access to the 1871 census for Teviothead, ROX be prepared to look up: HOBKIRK Agnes, b. abt 1790. She died at Teviothead in 1873 aged 84 and was probably a widow in 1871. Any help will be much appreciated. Peter J. Stone South Africa stone@futurest.co.za

Hello, I'm new to this list, and on behalf of my grandson who is researching his maternal side, I'm looking for Stephen VALLAR, b c1850. He lived for some time in Steppe. He married Ethel ? in Glasgow on 30 June 1902, had children David, Prince, Fortune and Ethel. In 1920 he went to Canada. He was very involved with show business, Houdini/Wild Bill Hickock. I'm sorry this is a bit vague, but I haven't a lot of information. If anyone can direct my grandson and I on this family, I would be most grateful. Kind regards. Barbara. Suffolk. England Researching. London. AGATE - BENNETT - BOYER - HALES - HEARLEY - HUNT - ISAACS - MALLAM - TINGEY. Kent BENNETT - MALLAM - ISAACS. Cambridgeshire DEERE - ELL - SUMPTER. Bedfordshire DEERE - ELL - SUMPTER - TINGEY. Yorkshire BILLINGHAM - GOLIGHTLY - PEARSON. Staffordshire MALLAM Ireland HEARLEY - RIORDAN.

Would SKS help me find the Lauries? I have them in Cathcart, Renfrewshire at the time of the 1881 census. I'm looking for James and Martha Laurie(If they were still alive at that time)and their sons, John and Charles, who would have been 33 and about 25. Thanks, Sandy Laurie Jamestown, PA, USA

Keith, there is NOTHING extra on the Pre 1855 *Certificates* you pay $15 Australian for than you can get off www.familysearch.org - believe me! janelleCanberra, Australia aurora@dynamite.com.au Researching: Davie, Halliday, Taylor, Barr, Campbell, Menzies

PRE 1855 Scottish *certificates* have very little more than you can find out online ...... do NOT spend money unless you want *proof* ....... Janelle -----Original Message----- From: Arch1122@aol.com <Arch1122@aol.com> To: SCOTLAND-GENWEB-L@rootsweb.com <SCOTLAND-GENWEB-L@rootsweb.com> Date: 24 October 1999 13:58 Subject: Re: 1854 Birth certificate Hi Jan I'm afraid the birth certificates don't have very much information on them. This is what it contains. Name of child when and where born sex of child name, surname and rank or profession of father. Name and surname of mother date and place of marriage, signature and qualification of informant and where and by whom it is registered. Hope this helps, Keep Climbing, Lynnda Scallon Arch1122@aol.com Searching SCALLON, McGRORY, McMANUS, TIERNAN, McFADYEN, DAILY, and DUFFY ==== SCOTLAND-GENWEB Mailing List ==== GENUKI -Main Scotland Page http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/sct/ ============================== Free Web space. ANY amount. ANY subject. RootsWeb's Freepages put you in touch with millions. http://cgi.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/acctform.cgi

>What information would I find on an 1854 birth certificate? My John >HENDERSON was christened 28 May 1854 in Alloa, Clackmannan, the son of John >HENDERSON and Ann KIRKWOOD. I already know the date of their marriage. >Would it give me the birthdates of the parents and the names of other >children of the marriage? > >Cheers >Jan >Canberra Australia Jan - I don't think there were official records of births in Scotland until after 1855. From the Scots Origins website you can search, for a fee, the indexes of the old parish records of baptisms and marriages up to 1855 and official indexes of births, deaths and marriages after 1855. You can order a copy of individual baptismal records in the old parish registers but they usually tell you no more than the date of the baptism, the name of the child and the names of the parents. Sometimes the name of the mother is not recorded. If you are very lucky, the entry may give the birth date of the child and state if the parents were lawfully married or not. I've not come across a baptismal record which lists other children of the marriage. The way I have found these children is to search the index for baptisms, 10 years at a time, by leaving the box for the child's name blank and just entering the parents names, remembering always to tick the soundex boxes. Good luck! __________________________ Keith Dash Sydney, Australia

NOTHING you don't already know ... PRE 1855 ... -----Original Message----- From: Jan Glasby <jan.glasby@hawkerc.act.edu.au> To: SCOTLAND-GENWEB-L@rootsweb.com <SCOTLAND-GENWEB-L@rootsweb.com> Date: 24 October 1999 13:17 Subject: 1854 Birth certificate Hi all, What information would I find on an 1854 birth certificate? My John HENDERSON was christened 28 May 1854 in Alloa, Clackmannan, the son of John HENDERSON and Ann KIRKWOOD. I already know the date of their marriage. Would it give me the birthdates of the parents and the names of other children of the marriage? Cheers Jan Canberra Australia ==== SCOTLAND-GENWEB Mailing List ==== Documentation....The hardest part of genealogy. ============================== Free Web space. ANY amount. ANY subject. RootsWeb's Freepages put you in touch with millions. http://cgi.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/acctform.cgi

I started using Inbox Assistant, part of Outlook Express. I first created folders to match most of my income mail (i. e. one for Scotland, one for each surname I am on a list for, one for each county etc) Then I programed Inbox Assistant to sort my mail as it comes in. Not exactly what you are looking for, but you might consider it. Sure helps to have your mail sorted. Don and Mary in Wyoming >Hello everyone > >Sorry this is off topic but I thought someone out there might be able to help me. I am using Outlook Express and save my incoming mail if it is of any interest, eg. names I am researching, links that look interesting until I get a chance to get back to them. My problem is, that if I have to leave it I have trouble trying to find out where I was up to and then have start going through them again. I know that I could write it on a piece of paper but then I would have to find that!! Is there someway that I can mark where I was up to? Hope this is not too big an ask but I feel it may be something other peole would like to know too. > >Cheers > >from Annette in a very overcast, wet day in Dubbo NSW > > >==== SCOTLAND-GENWEB Mailing List ==== >For Scotland history..... >http://members.aol.com/Skyelander/timeline.html > >============================== >Free Web space. ANY amount. ANY subject. >RootsWeb's Freepages put you in touch with millions. >http://cgi.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/acctform.cgi >

Tools/Options ....... -----Original Message----- From: Annette Pringle <annettepringle@ozemail.com.au> To: SCOTLAND-GENWEB-L@rootsweb.com <SCOTLAND-GENWEB-L@rootsweb.com> Date: 24 October 1999 13:24 Subject: off topic Hello everyone Sorry this is off topic but I thought someone out there might be able to help me. I am using Outlook Express and save my incoming mail if it is of any interest, eg. names I am researching, links that look interesting until I get a chance to get back to them. My problem is, that if I have to leave it I have trouble trying to find out where I was up to and then have start going through them again. I know that I could write it on a piece of paper but then I would have to find that!! Is there someway that I can mark where I was up to? Hope this is not too big an ask but I feel it may be something other peole would like to know too. Cheers from Annette in a very overcast, wet day in Dubbo NSW ==== SCOTLAND-GENWEB Mailing List ==== For Scotland history..... http://members.aol.com/Skyelander/timeline.html ============================== Free Web space. ANY amount. ANY subject. RootsWeb's Freepages put you in touch with millions. http://cgi.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/acctform.cgi

Don and Mary, thanks for your reply. I also had a reply from Audrey who pointed me in the right direction - make a folder for the ones I want to look at or explore at a later date!!! How simple! I was almost there but had not taken it far enough. Cheers Annette Cheers Annette

Janelle Thanks for your reply, I have looked but can not see what I am really looking for. Will have to keep looking Cheers Annette