Thank you!! This is a great site. I am so happy for this type of communication. Your site makes me feel like I am home with my family :) Thanks again for developing such a neat place to go. MMC -----Original Message----- From: Peter J. Fraser-Tibbett <frasbett@spiderweb.com.au> To: SCOTLAND-GENWEB-L@rootsweb.com <SCOTLAND-GENWEB-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Wednesday, October 20, 1999 2:22 AM Subject: SCOTTISH FAMILY RESEARCH: >This is a good Scottish Family Research website to visit. Specially for >anyone who is doing Scottish Family Research. > >http://www.homestead.com/scottishresearchgroup/sfrg.html > >Peter > >______________________________

Eleanor: My definition comes from the Concise Scots Dictionary. There are a lot of words in Scots that mean something different in American English 0: o. Cheers Jani

Unless a "flesher" is Scottish slang for a butcher, I still stand by my definition as one who removes the flesh from hides ("The American Heritage Dictionary"). Eleanor Rayl Indianapolis In a message dated 10/27/99 10:13:40 PM, JaniDart@aol.com writes: << G'Day Janet: A flesher is a butcher. Cheers Jani >>

A "flesher" is a person who removed the flesh from hides. Your person probably worked in a tannery, a place to prepare hides (leather) for clothing and shoes. In a message dated 10/27/99 8:42:40 PM, Tparkie@aol.com writes: << I have, what appears to be, the occupation of flesher on an OPR for 1731. Did such an occupation exist or could I be misreading the handwriting? Any clues as to this occupation? Thanks in advance, Janet in USA >>

Betty Wintersteen wrote: > > I am sending this to see if I get it back. Seem to be having trouble > getting my emails. > Ok so far. Replying directly & via list (sorry to anyone bothered) Alex -- Ottawa, Ontario, Canada

I am sending this to see if I get it back. Seem to be having trouble getting my emails. Betty Wintersteen, Ipswich, Massachusetts http://bawwyn@webtv.net - ------------------------------------ As guardians of our family history, it is up to us to pass it on to future generations. - ------------------------------------ Searching ORKNEY-Montrose; Margaret (Maggie) Potter; John Potter, Elsie Potter, Frances Potter, Mary Potter, Mabel Potter of Bents Row, Montrose, circa early 1900's. Family of Jessie Thompson nee Orkney, Massachusetts. Family of Isabella Lowe nee Orkney, Montreal, Canada - -------------------------------------- http://community.webtv.net/BAWWYN/OURFAMILYROOTS

G'Day Janet: A flesher is a butcher. Cheers Jani

I have, what appears to be, the occupation of flesher on an OPR for 1731. Did such an occupation exist or could I be misreading the handwriting? Any clues as to this occupation? Thanks in advance, Janet in USA Tparkie@aol.com

I have, what appears to be, the occupation of maltman on an OPR for 1752. Did such an occupation exist or could I be misreading the handwriting? Any clues as to this occupation: maker of malt? deliverer of malt? Thanks in advance, Janet in USA Tparkie@aol.com

Janelle wrote: > > Samantha, Those cousins would most likely still be alive, since they were > born 1935-40..... have you tried finding them in the UK telephone directory? > > Janelle Hi Janelle Yes, I have. 2000+ John Taylors in the UK, his sister Kay would be married, have no idea of her married name. A brief check of marriage indexes found their to be umpteen Kathleen Margaret Taylors marrying. Also the family may have emigrated to Canada. Can't find either of their parents in the English death indexes. Have found their only other cousin, he knows nothing of the family as he grew up separate from them. I have tried every thing under the sun. Also tried the English National Health Register, they found Kay, but no current address. John they couldn't look for because I didn't have his DOB or full name. (he probably has an initial. Salvation Army would help but can't for the same reasons above. Hence, if I can get John's DOB, I can then start my search anew. See my dilemma? :) Samantha > > Hi folks > > I have just found out that my long-searched for cousin was born in > Scotland sometime 1935-1940. Have been searching for he and his sister > for 5 years with no luck! Am desperate! Could sks please look up the > BIRTH Indexes for me? The Scotland BDM indexes not available where I am > in Western Australia. Even if someone could search a couple of years at > least for me, it would at least narrow it down. *Trivia* John's uncle > was the well-known Scottish film actor John TURNBULL, > b.Dunbar(1880-1956) > > His name, John TAYLOR - Father's name Albert Edward TAYLOR > Mother's name Sadie Gabrielle TAYLOR nee MILLS > > Any help greatly appreciated. > > Samantha > > ==== SCOTLAND-GENWEB Mailing List ==== > Visit.. ScotlandGenWeb > http://www.rootsweb.com/~sctwgw/ > > ============================== > FREE UNLIMITED Web space at RootsWeb! > Any subject: genealogy, computers, pets! Get your Freepages account today: > http://cgi.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/acctform.cgi

1871 Census, Perth, Perthshire FHC#0104078 NAME AND DESCRIPTION PERTH BARRACKS Page 3 of 9 (1) Name and surname (2) 1)Relation to Head of family or 2)position in the institution (3) Condition (4) Age (5) Rank, Profession or occupation (6) Where born (7) 1) Deaf & Dumb 2) Blind 3) Imbecile or Idiot 4) Lunatic 1. George Morrison,H,m,37,soldier,b.Tonque,Sutherlandshire 2. Elizabeth Morrison,wife,30, b. Aberdeen, Aberdeenshire 3. Marion Morrison,dau.7,b. At sea 4. Alex’r Morrison,son,2,b.Ihanci, East India 5. Alex’r Munro,H,M.35,soldier,b.Leith, Edinburgh 6. Elizabeth Munro,wife,34, b. Edinburgh 7. Alex’r Munro,son U.13, b. Edinburgh 8. Jessie Munro,dau. 9, b. Pershawer, East India 9. George Rae,U.27, soldier,b.Aberdeen,Aberdeenshire 10. Wm. Scott,U.33 soldier b.Lanark,Lanarkshire 11. Charles Simpson,U.29 soldier b.Montrose,Forfarshire 12. John Wallace,U.41 soldier b.Kilmannock,Ayr 13. Samuel Waugh,U,.30 soldier b.Dundee, Forfarshire 14. James Young,unmar.32 soldier b.Coatbridge,Lanarkshire 15. Wm.Allen,unmar.22 soldier b.Newbridge, Ireland 16. James Forbes,unmar.26 soldier b.Richmond,America 17. James Hogg,unmar.23 soldier b.Aberdeen 18. James Lessels,unmar.25 soldier b.Edinburgh 19. Wm.McDonald,unmar.20 soldier b.Inverness,Inverness 20. Thos.Smith,unmar.23 soldier b.Glasgow,Renfrewshire 21. Alex’r Stephen,unmar.24 soldier b.Aberdeen 22. Wm.Waters,unmar. 24 soldier b.Cambridge, England 23. Wm.Watt,unmar.22 soldier b.Aberdeen 24. Edward Brown,unmar.37 soldier b.Bothwell,Lanarkshire 25. Michael Currans,unmar.34 soldier b.Dundee,Forfarshire Hope these will be useful for someone Frances MacKellar pinney@sjfn.nb.ca

1871 Census, Perth, Perthshire FHC#0104078 NAME AND DESCRIPTION PERTH BARRACKS Page 2 of 9 (1) Name and surname (2) 1)Relation to Head of family or 2)position in the institution (3) Condition (4) Age (5) Rank, Profession or occupation (6) Where born (7) 1) Deaf & Dumb 2) Blind 3) Imbecile or Idiot 4) Lunatic 1. James Younie, H,M 36,Sergeant 93rd Highlanders b. Elgin, Morayshire 2. Jessie Younie,wife,39, b.Rosemarkie,Rosshire 3. James Younie,son, 6,b.Sealrote, East India 4. Jessie Younie,dau.4, b. Ihansi, East India 5. Mary Younie, dau. 1, b. Ihansi, East India 6. James Vellackie,U,29, Soldier, b.Borcess Linlithgor 7. John McDonald,U 33 soldier b.Kelso Roxburgh 8. George Bishop, U 31 soldier b.Glasgow,Renfrewshire 9. Edward Burrows, U 40 soldier b.Notingham, Eng 10. Henry Campbell, U 34 soldier b.Dundee, Forfarshire 11. Michael Carthy, U 34 soldier b.Callan, Ireland 12. John Clark,U 30 soldier b.Cromarty, Cromarty 13. David Deas, U 35 soldier b.Dumfermilne, Fife 14. John Fraser, H, M 32 soldier b.Dundee, Forfarshire 15. Euphemia Fraser, wife,M 32 b.Dundee, Forfarshire 16. Euphemia Fraser, dau. 7 b.Kierachee, East India 17. Charles Fraser,son 4 b.Bengal,East India 18. James Horn,U,35 soldier b.Dundee,Forfarshire 19. Alex’r Lowe,U.39 soldier b.Edinburgh 20. James McCall,U.34 soldier b.Edinburgh 21. Francis McKenzie,U.31 soldier b.Inverness 22. Donald McKinnon,U. 29 soldier b.Darvaig Argyleshire 23. John McKinnon, U.31 soldier b.Edinburg 24. George McRae,U.32 soldier b.Edinburg 25. George Murray, U.29 soldier b.Huntly,Aberdeenshire

I Have a Isabella Reid m Alexander Laing in KIlsyth , Stirling, Scotland. One of their daughtrers marrie, John Richardson, One daughter marriedWilliam Richardson. I havce Swans here andthere through thje family but no apparent connection. The marriages of theLAING children mentioned all occurred in Craighurt, Ontrio, Canada. Walter Richardson Barrie, Ontario, Canada bcart wrote: > Hello, > This may be just a shot in the dark but I have ancestors, WILLIAM SWAN who > married a GIBSON lady and also associated with the GIBSON family are the > REID's. > > If you think there might be a link I would be delighted to share > information. > > Bette - Wales > > http://www.bcart.freeserve.co.uk/ > > ==== SCOTLAND-GENWEB Mailing List ==== > Think BEFORE you post ! > > ============================== > Free Web space. ANY amount. ANY subject. > RootsWeb's Freepages put you in touch with millions. > http://cgi.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/acctform.cgi

Hi folks I have just found out that my long-searched for cousin was born in Scotland sometime 1935-1940. Have been searching for he and his sister for 5 years with no luck! Am desperate! Could sks please look up the BIRTH Indexes for me? The Scotland BDM indexes not available where I am in Western Australia. Even if someone could search a couple of years at least for me, it would at least narrow it down. *Trivia* John's uncle was the well-known Scottish film actor John TURNBULL, b.Dunbar(1880-1956) His name, John TAYLOR - Father's name Albert Edward TAYLOR Mother's name Sadie Gabrielle TAYLOR nee MILLS Any help greatly appreciated. Samantha

In 1881,living at 67 Crownpoint Rd Glasgow: CHARLES FRITTER 28( woodcarver) Jenny wife 29 Jenny, 7 Peter 6 Benjamin 1 Is this any help, ,Helen Mc Millan

I am going to Edinburgh on Friday. can anyone tell me if there is much difference between a birth or marriage entry in the OPR and what I might see if I look at the fiche Kay

Date sent: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 10:16:11 +1000 From: "Alyson Kelman" <grange@hunterlink.net.au> To: SCOTLAND-GENWEB-L@rootsweb.com Subject: In favour of OPR Baptisms > Hello, Everyone. > > I'm a little surprised at the pessimism of recent comments on pre-155 > birth/baptismal records. > > At the very least, OPR Baptisms give the father's name, location, and the > names of at least two witnesses. **** I'm afraid that such a supposition is incorrect. What you get depends entirely on the minister or Session Clerk of the time. The minimum is usually something like "John's Smith's child baptised this day.", or another which I once saw: "baptized this day the child of a travelling woman." > > Unless you look, you will never know how helpful OPR Baptisms can be. > Please, don't disregard them. It is not very wise to try to reconstruct a > family from indexes alone. They are only a guide to primary sources. > > Regards, > > Alyson ** This is very good advice! Gordon. ______________________________ ****************************** Gordon Johnson, Aberdeen, Scotland. KinHelp - historical surname searches & genealogical services: http://www.web-ecosse.com/genes/genes2.htm Home page (+ Scottish material)- http://www.ifb.co.uk/~kinman/ ******************************

Hello: I'm seeking information on Archibald McLaurin and / or Archibald Holmes who was a Cape Fear North Carolina resident and a relative of Daniel/Donald and Christian Munn Graham and Alexander and Mary McCormick. According to the story in the Argyll Colony Plus article, Archibald had invited them to America (from Scotland) to stay with him. After the family departed the Dalton (the boat of John Paul Jones) they had a long journey to Cumberland County. I would appreciate any information. According to the information the family has, Archibald last name was Holmes, but in someone sent the surname McLaurin. Thaks for you time. JoAnn

The windows update address is: http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com Nancy -----Original Message----- From: Michael & Carolyn McInnes <mcinnes@net2000.com.au> To: SCOTLAND-GENWEB-L@rootsweb.com <SCOTLAND-GENWEB-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Tuesday, October 26, 1999 8:13 AM Subject: Re: off topic Hi Lucille, well here comes yet another suggestion. My guru has suggested that if you are not having any luck when following the advise being given, that you may need to reinstall the software for outlook express. If it isn't properly installed ( not your fault it just happens sometimes ) the program will run just not to it's full ability. Outlook express is part of Internet Explorer 5 & is freely available on the Internet at www.microsoft.com Good luck. Carolyn McInnes mcinnes@net2000.com.au ==== SCOTLAND-GENWEB Mailing List ==== Think BEFORE you post ! ============================== FREE UNLIMITED Web space at RootsWeb! Any subject: genealogy, computers, pets! Get your Freepages account today: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/acctform.cgi

"Royal Lunatic Asylum of Montrose" Sunnyside Montrose, Forfar FHL film 0203498 GRO Ref 312 EnumDist 34 Page Page 21 Marr. Age Sex Place of Birth Mary Ann ROBERTSON M 40 F Occ: Millworker Handicap Lunatic Margaret ROSS U 45 F Occ: Gen Serv Dom Handicap Lunatic Elizabeth C. REID W 70 FDalmeny, Linlithgow Handicap Lunatic Helen REID U 60 F Alyth, Perth Occ: Gen Serv Dom Handicap Lunatic Christina ROBERTSON U 55 F Stroma, Caithness Occ: Agr Lab Handicap Lunatic Ann ROSS U 48 F Banchory Ternan, Kincardine Occ: Laundress (Dom) Handicap Lunatic Margaret ROSS M 43 F Birse, Aberdeen Handicap Lunatic Eleanor REID W 48 F Catrine, Ayr Handicap Lunatic Elizabeth ROSIE U 46 F Caithness Handicap Lunatic Eliza. RODGER U 19 F Forfar, Forfar Handicap Lunatic Mary ROSS U 33 F Occ: Factory Worker Handicap Lunatic Ann RAMSAY U 38 F Forfar, Forfar Occ: Factory Worker Handicap Lunatic Ann STEPHEN U 45 F Arbroath, Forfar Occ: Millworker Handicap Lunatic Alison SIMPSON U 79 F Broughty Ferry, Forfar Occ: gen Serv (Dom) Handicap Lunatic Jane STEWART M 71 F Auchterhouse, Forfar Occ: Labourers Wife Handicap Lunatic Janet SUTHERLAND U 58 F Caithness Occ: Gen Serv (Dom) Handicap Lunatic Agnes SMITH U 40 F Friockheim, Forfar Occ: Millworker Handicap Lunatic Isabella SANDS U 45 F Occ: Gen Serv (Dom) Handicap Lunatic Helen STEWART U 53 F Arbroath, Forfar Occ: Millworker Handicap Lunatic Mary SMART M 63 F Inverarity, Forfar Handicap Lunatic Janet SIMPSON M 59 F Barry, Forfar Occ: Linen Weavers Wife Handicap Lunatic Mary SMITH M 74 F Montrose, Forfar Occ: Weaver Handicap Imbecile Jane STEPHEN M 44 F Laurencekirk, Kincardine Occ: Labourers Wife Handicap Lunatic Catherine SMITH U 66 F Strachan, Kincardine Handicap Lunatic Ann SMITH U 41 F Arbroath, Forfar Occ: Millworker Handicap Lunatic PAGE 22 Jane SMITH U 47 F Shetland, Shetland Occ: Dom Serv Handicap Lunatic Ann G. SIEVEWRIGHT W 70 F Dundee, Forfar Handicap Lunatic Elizabeth SCOTT M 48 F Brechin, Forfar Occ: Linen Weavers Wife Handicap Lunatic Ann STEVEN U 71 F Brechin, Forfar Handicap Lunatic Mary SOUTAR M 63 F Arbroath, Forfar Occ: Seamstress Handicap Lunatic Catherine SINCLAIR M 48 F Sandsting, Shetland Occ: Knitter Handicap Lunatic Isabella SMALL U 36 F Arbroath, Forfar Occ: Millworker Handicap Lunatic Margaret SCOTT U 60 F Handicap Lunatic Jane S. SMITH U 69 F Grantown, Inverness Handicap Lunatic Elizabeth SINCLAIR U 55 F Occ Gen Serv (Dom) Handicap Lunatic Elizabeth STEWART M 36 F Forfar, Forfar Handicap Lunatic Annie T. SPENCE (SMITH) U 31 F Dundee, Forfar Occ: Maste Drapers Daughter Handicap Lunatic Janet SIMPSON M 45 F Laurencekirk, Kincardine Occ: Weavers Wife Handicap Lunatic Margaret SMALL M 31 F Handicap Lunatic Ann SMITH W 69 F Monikie, Forfar Handicap Lunatic Marjory SINCLAIR W 62 F Dunrossness, Shetland Handicap Lunatic Jessie SINCLAIR M 36 F Handicap Lunatic Eizabeth SMITH M 56 F Arbirlot, Fife Occ: Lawyers Wife Handicap Lunatic Betsy SUTHERLAND U 40 F Dunbeath, Caithness Occ: Gen Serv Dom Handicap Lunatic Margaret SINCLAIR M 71 F Montrose, Forfar Handicap Lunatic Ann SWANKE U 44 F Auchmithie, Forfar Occ: Agr Lab Handicap Lunatic Margaret STUROCK W 43 F Arbroath, Forfar Handicap Lunatic Ann STRACHAN W 41 F Arbroath, Forfar Occ: Weaver Handicap Lunatic Mary STANLEY U 42 F Ireland Occ: Millworker Handicap Lunatic Elizabeth THOMSON U 73 F Arbroath, Forfar Handicap Lunatic PAGE 23 Susan TAYLOR M 60 F Handicap Lunatic Elizabeth THOMSON M 61 F Occ: Weaver Handicap Lunatic Betty THOM W 69 F Dundee, Forfar Occ: Weaver Handicap Lunatic Barbara TAIT U 41 F Shetland Occ: Knitter Handicap Imbecile Catherine THOMSON U 17 F Handicap Lunatic Catherine TAYLOR U 21 F Montrose, Forfa Occ: Factory worker Handicap Lunatic Jane TAYLOR U 64 F Occ: Agr Lab Handicap Lunatic Jane TOLMIE M 56 F Garvock, Kincardine Handicap Lunatic Ann TAYLOR U 55 F Wick, Caithness Handicap Lunatic Isabel TINDEL M 53 F St. Cyrus, Kincardine Occ: Carters Wife Handicap Lunatic Catherine TODD W 68 F Perth, Perth Handicap Lunatic Lillias WEDDERSPOON W 74 F Cargill, Perth Handicap Lunatic Sarah WEIR M 53 F Ireland Occ: Labourers Wife Handicap Lunatic Helen WILSON U 38 F Kirriemuir, Forfar Occ: Weaver Handicap Imbecile Jessie WALKER U 45 F Handicap Lunatic Margare WILKIE U 32 F Occ: Weaver Handicap Lunatic Rachel WRIGHT U 38 Occ: Weaver Handicap Lunatic Helen WALDIE U 51 F Montrose, Forfar Occ: Millworker Handicap Lunatic Robina WILLIAMSON U 29 F Occ: Seamstress Handicap Lunatic Catherine WATSON U 61 F Lerwick, Shetland Occ: Washerwoman Handicap Lunatic Charlotte WATSON U 49 F Montrose, Forfar Occ: Millworker Handicap Lunatic Margaet WILLIAMSON U 21 F Nesting, Shetland Occ: Gen Serv (Dom) Handicap Lunatic Mary WILLIAMSON U 38 F Bressay, Shetland Handicap Lunatic Jane WILLIAMSON U 52 F Shetland Occ: Gen Serv (Dom) Handicap Lunatic Helen WARES U 46 F Handicap Lunatic PAGE 24 Margaret WALLACE M 30 f Caithness Occ: Agr Lab Handicap Lunatic Margaret WOOD U 26 F Handicap Imbecile Barbara WILLIAMSON U 31 F Mid Yell, Shetland Occ: Knitter Handicap Lunatic Ann WATSON M 29 F Rattray, Perth Handicap Lunatic Elizabeth WILL M 31 F Kirkcaldy, Fife Handicap Lunatic Isabella YOUNG U 60 F Kirriemuir, Forfar Occ: Weaver Handicap Lunatic Jane YOUNG M 63 F Wick, Caithness Occ: Agr Lab Handicap Lunatic Elizabeth YOUNG U 31 F occ: Gen Serv (Dom) Handicap Lunatic Margaret SCOTT U 21 F Montrose, Forfar Occ: Serv. Female Attendant Handicap Lunatic Jane MILLAR M 38 F Alloa, Stirling Handicap Lunatic Jane MILNE U 14 F Montrose, Forfar Handicap Lunatic That's all of the pages. Betty Wintersteen, Ipswich, Massachusetts http://bawwyn@webtv.net - ------------------------------------ As guardians of our family history, it is up to us to pass it on to future generations. - ------------------------------------ Searching ORKNEY-Montrose; Margaret (Maggie) Potter; John Potter, Elsie Potter, Frances Potter, Mary Potter, Mabel Potter of Bents Row, Montrose, circa early 1900's. Family of Jessie Thompson nee Orkney, Massachusetts. Family of Isabella Lowe nee Orkney, Montreal, Canada - -------------------------------------- http://community.webtv.net/BAWWYN/OURFAMILYROOTS