Hi Lynn, my mistake I have just had an E-Mail to the same effect from a Janel RedNurse @aol.com I can be wrong too, nobody is perfect. Thank you again

OK Janel, thats news to me but I stand corrected! Hamish

In a message dated 10/31/99 6:07:12 AM Eastern Standard Time, ClanDowill@aol.com writes: << Hello jane in 1811 records of births were of Old Parish records and as far as I am aware OPRs don't give names of witnesses. >> I've been searching through an OPR of Huntly, Aberdeenshire, and it does indeed give names of witnesses - this particular one is 1820 - 1854. Hope that helps. Janel

I am writing regarding Corrigan. I have a Corrigan who married a flossie Nightengale McCreadie. They owned a pub in Girvan Scotland. Unfortunately don't have the first name of the Corrigan. Is this relevant thanks donna

Dear list members, Is there anyone working right now with Glasgow film ? (I think) - I have this entry: Angus McKay and Marion McGilvray at Gorbals had Murdoch 4.8.1811. I'm very interested in the witnesses (godparents) and any other information re this family. I thought I could take advantage of someone who may have this film out right now. Best regards, Jane -----Original Message----- From: SCOTLAND-GENWEB-D-request@rootsweb.com <SCOTLAND-GENWEB-D-request@rootsweb.com> To: SCOTLAND-GENWEB-D@rootsweb.com <SCOTLAND-GENWEB-D@rootsweb.com> Date: Sunday, October 31, 1999 8:22 AM Subject: SCOTLAND-GENWEB-D Digest V99 #630

That's the ONLY spelling I didn't think of, I used Lirch, Lyrch, Lerrch, Lerche, Lerch, Lurche. Egads I thought I was a creative speller! That's why we all need each other! Good thinking. Cheers Jani

In a message dated 10/31/99 3:14:00 AM Eastern Standard Time, Research.Self@btinternet.com writes: << Indicating that Robert LERCHE was not found in the 1881 census for Scotland and I now believe that he arrived after 1881 and before 1889. It is always more difficult to prove a negative hypothesis! Strange thing is there is another family of LERCHEs [from IGI] who were already settled in Scotland before 1881 and who should have turned up on the 1881 census. One of these was from Germany [Emanuel LERCHE, b 1839] but all the family were born in Scotland. This family were mainly round Midlothian circa 1881 but eventually were in Alloa. Although I did not ask about this family, there was no trace of any LERCHE in Scotland in 1881 at all. They must be masters of the elusive! No wonder I can't find any of them. >> Hello Gordon, Can't help with Robert but I can make proving the negative hypothesis somewhat more difficult as a search of Midlothian with no name produces one unknown entry with a birth place of Germany. (see extract below) Any chance Robert was a ships carpenter? Would love to have heard the conversation on this one with German and Scot accents. I think the other extract is your elusive Emanuel. Dwelling: 21 Broad Wynd Census Place: South Leith, Edinburgh, Scotland Source: FHL Film 0224020 GRO Ref Volume 692-2 EnumDist 49 Page 1 Marr Age Sex Birthplace Willam SMITH M 56 M Edinburgh South Leith, Edinburgh, Scotland Rel: Head Occ: Coal Merchant Ann SMITH M 53 F Scoon, Perth, Scotland Rel: Wife (NK) (NK) M M Germany Rel: Lodger Occ: Ship Carpenter ************************************************************************ Dwelling: Ochil St Census Place: Alloa, Clackmannan, Scotland Source: FHL Film 0203534 GRO Ref Volume 465 EnumDist 2 Page 19 Marr Age Sex Birthplace Emanuel LERCHIE M 43 M Bohemia (British Subject) Rel: Head Occ: Glass Engraver Helen LERCHIE M 46 F Cairneyhill, Fife, Scotland Rel: Wife Stephen LERCHIE U 18 M Rustterigg, Edinburgh, Scotland Rel: Son Occ: Glass Engraver Mary LERCHIE 14 F Edinbro, Edinburgh, Scotland Rel: Dau Occ: Scholar Helen A. LERCHIE 6 F Alloa, Clackmannan, Scotland Rel: Dau Occ: Scholar Rick McMeechan Broadview Hts. Ohio, USA Rmcmeechan@aol.com

I am wondering if anyone has any links to this couple. Alexander MARTIN born about 1830 in Montrose, Angus married Isabella GARROW born about 1830 Boharn, Banff. They married in Logie Pert in 1850.All their children were born there. Alexander worked in the Craigo Works. I have been unable to locate either of their births, or parents, or deaths. Thanks in advance, Kind regards Deb Miles dmiles@picknowl.com.au

I am wondering if there are any Directories of Edinburgh? I have an ancestor, John MARTIN who was a tailor in Edinburgh in the late 1800's. He was a dapper man, quite well off and put his son through George Heriot's School. So I wonder if he had his own business? Where would I find a list of such directories, does anyone know? Thanks in advance, Kind regards Deb Miles dmiles@picknowl.com.au

Good afternoon all, Hi this is the second time I may have written, and was hoping someone could help me. Charles Ross married Isabella Kennedy 26/01/1843 in Kilmallie, Argyleshire, Scotland. This is the only solid information I have. I know for a fact that they had at least one daughter Margaret. I have no idea when Margaret travelled to Australia. Maybe the rest of her family came too I don't know. I am very interested in finding out if she had any siblings, whom her grand parents on boths sides may have been. As you can see I have little to no information I that family. I know that she married a Charles McPhee in 1868/9 at Newstead Victoria. His parents too came from Kilmallie, Argyleshire. If anyone can help me it would be greatly appreciated. I would hope to try and repay someone for their generous deed. Kellie J. >From the wilderness of Central Queensland.

Hello, I have replied directly to those individuals who responded so quickly. I thought that it would be worthwhile indicating that Robert LERCHE was not found in the 1881 census for Scotland and I now believe that he arrived after 1881 and before 1889. It is always more difficult to prove a negative hypothesis! Strange thing is there is another family of LERCHEs [from IGI] who were already settled in Scotland before 1881 and who should have turned up on the 1881 census. One of these was from Germany [Emanuel LERCHE, b 1839] but all the family were born in Scotland. This family were mainly round Midlothian circa 1881 but eventually were in Alloa. Although I did not ask about this family, there was no trace of any LERCHE in Scotland in 1881 at all. They must be masters of the elusive! No wonder I can't find any of them. Thank you all again. Regards, Gordon Self ----- Original Message ----- From: Research.Self <Research.Self@btinternet.com> To: Scotland-list <SCOTLAND-GENWEB-L@rootsweb.com>; ABERDEEN-List <ABERDEEN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, October 30, 1999 8:53 PM Subject: 1881 census for Scotland

Hello jane in 1811 records of births were of Old Parish records and as far as I am aware OPRs don't give names of witnesses. Jim McPherson

Don and Mary Saban wrote: > > Thanks for the letter. > > First of all, my MEIKLE line came to the USA around 1875 from Lanarkshire, > Scotland. My grandmother was a MEIKLE, born in Colorado in 1878, daughter > of the people who came around 1875. > > I have spent a lot of years going backwards on this line. My oldest > confirmed MEIKLE in the line is James MEIKLE, born around 1750, married in > 1777. He was from Lesmahagow, Lanark and he married Janet Taylor in 1777 in > Port of Monteith, Perth. They lived in Lesmahagow until the 1790's when > they moved to Stonehouse, Lanark, Scotland. > > I know there were a few MEIKLE names in Stonehouse as far back as 1691 as I > am in the process of studying the Stonehouse Old Parish Register. > > Some years ago I received a letter from a lady in Scotland, saying that the > family originated in the Lanark area but around 1300 or so went to the > Aberdeen area and that the name was a sept of Clan Baird. It was in the > 1600's they began to come down into Lanark. Now I do not know if this is > true or not. Cannot prove it, nor can I disprove it. What I do know is > that the name was written in various ways in the Old Parish Registers. > > If I happen to come across an Alexander Meickle, I will let you know. > > Don and Mary in Wyoming > > >Hi Don and Mary: I understand that you are interested in the MEICKLE > family. > >I am also interested in the origin of that family in Scotland. An > Alexander > >Meickle was imported into East New Jersey in 1684 as an indentured servant > of > >John Campbell. They sailed from Montrose in 1684 on the ship THOMAS AND > >BENJAMIN and landed at Sandy Hook NJ. I am trying to find the places these > >passengers of the Thomas and Benjamin originated. There were 130 passengers > >and most of those I have located came from either the Montrose,Angus or > >Aberdeen areas. Do you know where the Meickle family lived? I can't find an > >Alexander Meickle in LDS records. Jessie, Calif. > > > > > >==== SCOTLAND-GENWEB Mailing List ==== > >Scottish Universities > >Their Libraries & Archives > >http://www.ozemail.com.au/~jimjar/jimjargg.htm > > > >============================== > >Free Web space. ANY amount. ANY subject. > >RootsWeb's Freepages put you in touch with millions. > >http://cgi.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/acctform.cgi > > > > ==== SCOTLAND-GENWEB Mailing List ==== > Scottish Universities > Their Libraries & Archives > http://www.ozemail.com.au/~jimjar/jimjargg.htm > > ============================== > FREE UNLIMITED Web space at RootsWeb! > Any subject: genealogy, computers, pets! Get your Freepages account today: > http://cgi.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/acctform.cgi stop sending please

Can anyone help with a simple look up please? I am trying to find Margaret Mary Corrigan born Nov.16, 1900 in Glasgow, Scotland (Lanarkshire). I have from her death certificate that her mothers name was Margaret Corrigan and her fathers name was John Monnick. I believe that Monnick was MMC's stepfather. I do know sometime (it is unsure when) the family (CORRIGAN or MONNICK) moved to Edinburgh. She worked in London in 1918 as a telephone operator and in 1924/1925 came into the USA, married and her first child (my mother) was born August 26, 1931. I have no access to the 1901 index for Scotland. If there is an index to the 1901 Scotland census, could SKS please confirm if she is on it (or either family) or not? Also for Edinburgh(Midlothian), could someone check a Scotland census of 19ll for a family MONNICK (John as head) with wife(Margaret) and at least one child--daughter Margaret. Also in both areas, could someone check for any CORRIGAN family with a wife:Margaret and daughter Margaret/Mary? I need as much help as I can get! This wall keeps getting thicker! Thank you in advance. Donna Hathaway please answer via email:dorothea4@earthlink.net

Yes Golspie is in Sutherland but the LDS when compiling the 1881 census exchanged Sutherland for Sunderland, they now say that all new editions of the 1881 census will be corrected. Jim McPherson

Lynn, If you have any Scott's I would love a look see Thanks!! Nancy -----Original Message----- From: Lynn Prettyman <marylindsay@worldnet.att.net> To: SCOTLAND-GENWEB-L@rootsweb.com <SCOTLAND-GENWEB-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Saturday, October 30, 1999 4:01 PM Subject: Govan Combination Poorhouse Asylum 1881 census; Glasgow Royal Asylum Hello, all, At first I thought it would be a simple thing to list the inmates of the above facilities, keeping in with the spirit of Liz, who has done so much for this list, and Betty WINTERSTEEN on 2 different lists, but when I ran off the entire Govan asylum census, it took 56 pages in which to do it, with an average of 15-18 names per page. There are approximately 350 persons classified as lunatics and another 500 or so who were classified as paupers. (I have a vested interest in this Asylum, as one of my BAIRD ancestresses would be committed there in 1886, so I thought to others a favor and send the names.) However, I don't want to take up the time of those of you who have to pay for the service by sending something you can't use or are not interested in, so I will do this, instead: I will be glad to look up a name or family on my lists. I will also do the same for the Glasgow Royal Asylum in Gartnavel, the pages of which only came to 48! There are some interesting names on these lists and also, since place of birth is 90% of the time listed, I have seen some "born at sea" entries, as well. For instance, an interesting name is a David YELLOWLEES, born in Stirling, who was the MD in charge of the Glasgow Royal Asylum and an Eliza SPENCE, b in Otley , York, England, was listed as his m-in-law. An example of the "born-at-sea" is W A LIDDELL, Jr, whose father was an MD in the Govan Poorhouse. Other interesting names are: IMLAH, George MERRILEES, Jessie BREACKINRIDGE, Elizabeth FRIER, Margaret FRANCH, Thomas Mc CANDLISH, Janet WEIR, Joan FORREST TEMPLETON McINDOE, Mary GOURLAY GOODLAD, Joseph,BESSOCK, b in England ROBERTSON, Agnes McKINLAY KIRKWOOD JOHNSTONE, Rebecca PROUDFOOT I could go on and on, but you get the idea. Many of the names have Ireland given as place of birth. I think the complaints will pour in if you ask on the list, so please ask me privately unless the name is one you feel for which many are searching. Hats off to you, Betty for your very painstaking work. I can really appreciate how much time it must have taken you! Lynn Prettyman in Baltimore, Maryland, USA marylindsay@worldnet.att.net ==== SCOTLAND-GENWEB Mailing List ==== GENUKI -Main Scotland Page http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/sct/ ============================== FREE UNLIMITED Web space at RootsWeb! Any subject: genealogy, computers, pets! Get your Freepages account today: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/acctform.cgi

Looking for any LAWRIE in this location. Can you help? Thanks Roger Easton On Thu, 28 Oct 1999 13:50:14 -0700 (PDT) SCOTLAND-GENWEB-D-request@rootsweb.com writes:

Dear All Have been lurking for some months now and have really enjoyed this list. Thanks to Betty Wintersteen for her transcripts of the "Royal Lunatic Asylum of Montrose" Sunnyside, Montrose, Forfar. What a labour of love. I've read through them all "just in case ...!" But when reading through page 14 of 25 October 1999 Catherine BAIN M 41 F Golspie, Sunderland, Durham, England Occ: Gen Worker Handicap Lunatic' Please note - Golspie is in Sutherland, Scotland I was reminded of an item (I think it was on the Scots Origins Site or it may have been in one of the Family History Magazines her in the UK) which told of the error in the 1881 Census where an over-zealous transcriber (not the poor census enumerators) entered most of the "Sutherland, Scotland" entries as "Sunderland, Durham, England". So that if you search for entries by parish name and Sutherland, you will not find them, whereas if you use the parish name and Sunderland, you will find them. If you have been researching Sutherland on the 1881 census, and not had much luck, that may be the reason. They are all there, you just have to use cunning to defeat the system. Perhaps using just the parish name will work as well. Apologies to all who already knew about this aberration. Annpa (researching CASEY,CRAMPSEY, KELLY all coming to Scotland from Ireland around 1870, but also FARQUHAR from Aberdeenshire.)

Joann: I would suggest you contact your local PBS affiliate and see if they can get you a copy. Jane B.

Like to invite the List Members to the following Scottish Family Research website. http://www.homestead.com/scottishresearchgroup/sfrg.html Peter