What exactly do you mean? and what Presbyterian Church? Edward Andrews > -----Original Message----- > From: Margaret T Good [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: 30 May 2001 14:50 > To: [email protected] > Subject: [SCOTS~GEN] Church Records > > > Hi everyone > can someone please tell me if the Presbytian Church has a web > site like that of the L.D.S. for online genealogy research > hope some one can help > Margaret > _________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > > > ==== SCOTLAND-GENWEB Mailing List ==== > Want to leave the list ? > mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe& body=unsubscribe or mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe&body=unsub scribe

Please does anyone have the 1851 census that covers Cockburnspath Berwick-shire Scotland. I am trying to trace Charles TELFORD who was born in that area and would have been about 5years old in 1851. thanking you Margaret _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.

I am trying to contact a Stuart Fleming who used to be on Compuserve. He is researching Fleming worldwide. he told me of a manuscript called "Baird of Sauchtonhall" by J P Wood and I am trying to find where it is held. It is not in the National Library, Edinburgh. Ed

Re: Corbett, Ferguson, Paterson My Great Grandmother was Selina Corbett. M. Thomas Ferguson. Both from Scotland Children of this union: Georgina, m. James Smith, 1 son, Robert Mary, m. Robert Cooper, 4 children, Harry, Tom, Nina, Roberta Selina, m. John A. Paterson, 6 children, Christina, Tom, Selina, Georgina, John, Alastair Helen, m. Robert Haddow, 1 son, Douglas Alice, m. Ronnie Robertson, Fergie, Charles, Isobel, Dorothy Mathew, m. ?, no children Jack, missing in action WWI James, m. Elizabeth Sinclair, 1 daughter, Winnifred Annie, m. ?, 2 children, Annie, a daughter name ? All of Selina's children were born in Stirling, J.A. Paterson was either a butcher or grocer. Daughter, Christina, changed to Christine, married Robert Mair in Greenwich, Ct. One daughter, Sheena Mair Marchand, married Leroy Marchand, 3 children, Denise Anne, Robert Cary, Vicki Lynn. Denise married Ronald Mackail, 2 children, Jennifer Lynn, Brian Mathew, divorced then married Richard Hayes, 2 children, Tiffany Anne, Sean Christopher Robert married Melissa Blaney, 3 children, Edward, Robert, Kevin, divorced then married Stephanie Milbradt Vicki not married. Anyone having any information about Corbett, Ferguson, Paterson please write. Hope the subsequent information is helpful to others. Sheena Mair Marchand [email protected] --- --- [email protected] --- EarthLink: It's your Internet.

Is anyone doing research on the Austin Family from Glasgow? I am trying to trace my fathers family. His name is James Austin, born in Govan, Glasgow, on 17 November 1896. I believe he had a brother who was an undertaker in Glasgow. Any help would be appreciated. Best wishes ~ Ken Austin Email: [email protected]

Hello Le, According to - Collins book (ISBN 0-00-435665-9)(£5. GBP) SCOTS KITH & KIN - A Guide to the Clans and Surnames of Scotland. The Surname GAY was found in ANGUS from the 15th c. - and in FIFE from the 17th c. The Surname GAYRE belonged to the Clan GAYRE.. GAYRE of GAYRE and NIGG, arose in CORNWALL (England) in the 12th century. One branch settled in Yorkshire (England) in the 15th century and crossed into SCOTLAND in the 16th century and held lands in NIGG in Ross-shire. They rapidly multiplied and became land owners throughout EASTER ROSS. A small clan, it was recognised by LORD LYON ( In Edinburgh) earlier this century. SEPTS of the clan GAYRE are as follows - GAIR - GAIRE - GEAR - GAYRE - GAIRN - GEIR - MCGAIR - MCGEIR -GARRISON - GARSON - KERRISON - MCGIRR. Hope this helps a little. Kind Regards Margaret ----- Original Message ----- From: "Le Bateman" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2001 3:38 AM Subject: [SCOTS~GEN] The GAY or GAYRE family > I have taken my line to 1812, but relatives told me that the GAY name was > actually at one time GAYRE and they hailed from Scotland. Is there anyone > doing research on this family. My grandmother Anna Mabel GAY was born > 28/Nov/1906 in Decatur Georgia she moved to Midland City Alabama when she > was 6 or 12. They were in Dothan Alabama before then. All of her people came > from Laurens County Georgia, Her greatgrandfather John J. A. GAY born > 8/May/1812 he died 22/Mar/1874 his father I do not have a clue as to who he > might be. He married Elizabeth Clark in 1839. What clan would these family > members be associated with. > Le > > > > NetZero Platinum > No Banner Ads and Unlimited Access > Sign Up Today - Only $9.95 per month! > http://www.netzero.net > > > ==== SCOTLAND-GENWEB Mailing List ==== > Looking for a different kind of list ? > mailto:[email protected]?subject=subscribe > >

Hello Looking to communicate with researchers interested in the WIGHT surname with connections to North America. Regards Bill Wight Canada

Listers., >From the 1881 census I have located names from two addresses which are proving promising to our research., The first is ... dwelling : Grocers Shop Newmill (no comma after 'shop') Census place: Hawick, Roxburgh, Scotland and the second is : dwelling: 2 Oliver Crescent Census place: Hawick, Roxburgh, Scotland Can someone on the list advise me (a) Is ( or would have) the Grocer's shop been called Newmill, or is it IN Newmill or is there a street called Newmill ? Is Newmill (The shop or the area or the street) and Oliver Crescent in close proximity to each other or is it possible the Newmill Grocers Shop was IN Oliver Crescent? We have been unable to find any exact locations on the maps we have access to locally and the ones we have tried online.. We'd appreciate any sort of local information Kind regards Dave , Hibiscus Coast New Zealand (Fine but chilly)

Researching OGILVY **** We have David OGILVY (Painter) of Edinburgh who married Catharina Spence on 2nd July 1801 at Tolbooth Church Parish Edinburgh---David lived at "Burnet's Close, House 312 Lawnmarket Edinburgh" (as according to the Post Office Annual Directory 1820-1821). David and Catharina had a son David Ogilvy born 1804 who did his apprenticeship at The Signet Law Firm Edinburgh starting on 26th July 1832, graduated to Solicitor and in 1839 was appointed by the British Government as Crown Solicitor in Australia..All we have on Catharina's father John SPENCE of Edinburgh that he was a painter too!.**** We have a copy of David/Catharina's marriage certificate and postal registers from which we obtained the information as shown above. *************With the help of a Kind Lister who found for us four OGILVY'S which do appear to be ours; they are William Spence OGILVY b 28/12/1806, Catharine OGILVY b 16/12/1808, Thomas Davidson OGILVY b 1/10/1813 and Catharine Ogilv! y b 7/3/1811. showing their Father David OGILVY and mother Catharine Mrs SPENCE.******** ********Cencus shows for Thomas Davidson Ogilvy "Dwelling: 11 Lothian St Census Place: Edinburgh Canongate, Edinburgh, Scotland Source: FHL Film 0224005 GRO Ref Volume 685-4 EnumDist 38 Page 6 Marr Age Sex Birthplace Thomas Davidson OGILVY U 68 M Edinburgh, Scotland Rel: Head Occ: Annuitant********* , Would like someone who has access to the Census for this period to look for further information on the Ogilvy's!. We now also at a standstill at the brick wall trying to locate or find the further details of David/Chatarina's parents! Any suggestions!!!!!! Regards, Colin Darby Australia [email protected] --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.255 / Virus Database: 128 - Release Date: 17/05/2001

Dear June, That's my big road block on those 2 lines. I only know that they did come from Scotland but no record I have found so far says where in Scotland or exactly when.....I'm also looking for MacCormick/McCormick/McCormack, William who came from ?? in Scotland and settled in Orange co, NY married Elizabeth Atwood @ 1803 (male children were Henry, Charles, and Jewett or Dewitt, girls were Mary, Elizabeth and Electa). My McKay's and Ross' settled in Burke Co, NC eventually. Family history says that 3 Ross brothers came over from Scotland together to PA and all settled in Different areas. My Ross in Benjamin who was born 1766 in ?? Scotland (His father was Reuben) and married Saphira Frizzell (another Scot) in Lincoln co, NC 1794 before moving on to Burke. The only child I have record of was also named Reuben...Reuben M. Ross (I've been told that the M may have stood for McCall-another Scot family found in Burke Co, NC) From what I've heard from a cousin, our McKay's went to Ireland first before coming to America (Scots-Irish or perhaps Ulster Scot). Boy what I wouldn't give for some help on these. I have looked at passenger lists until I am blue in the face to no avail........... Audrey

I have taken my line to 1812, but relatives told me that the GAY name was actually at one time GAYRE and they hailed from Scotland. Is there anyone doing research on this family. My grandmother Anna Mabel GAY was born 28/Nov/1906 in Decatur Georgia she moved to Midland City Alabama when she was 6 or 12. They were in Dothan Alabama before then. All of her people came from Laurens County Georgia, Her greatgrandfather John J. A. GAY born 8/May/1812 he died 22/Mar/1874 his father I do not have a clue as to who he might be. He married Elizabeth Clark in 1839. What clan would these family members be associated with. Le NetZero Platinum No Banner Ads and Unlimited Access Sign Up Today - Only $9.95 per month! http://www.netzero.net

Can anyone advise the clan to which those named Machattie would belong? John L Macpherson

Mac Hattie or Mac Hatty belongs to Clan Chattan and may wear the Clan Chattan tartan. There are variations in the spelling as with many surnames; i.e Mac Hatton, Mac Hattan and Mac Hat. In some cases the 'Mac' was dropped and the surname simply became HATTIE. HATTY, HATTON, HATTAN, etc. There was a William de Hatun who witnessed a charter by Matthew, bishop of Aberdeen, about 1171-99 according to Black's "Surnames of Scotland." This might indicate Norman origin. The Motto for Clan Chattan is; "Touch not the cat but (without) a glove." Clan Chattan is a federation of clans going back to 1291, composed traditionally of 17 clans among whom were the Macphersons, MacPhails, Cattanachs, Mackintoshes, Farquharsons, Shaws, Toshachs and smaller clans which joined for protection such as the Clerks, Davidsons, MacLeans, MacQueens and Smiths. The tartan is primarily red. This information from Alexander Fulton's, "Scotland and her Tartans." Merv. >Date: Fri, 25 May 2001 10:02:22 +1000 >From: "John Macpherson" <[email protected]> >To: [email protected] >Subject: [SCOTS~GEN] Machattie >Can anyone advise the clan to which those named Machattie >would belong? >John L Macpherson

I am trying to trace a ISABELLA PATON married to JAMES RICHARDSON ST CLEMENT DUNDEE in 1881. they had at least one child ALEXANDER REID RICHARDSON. Help !!!!! Jayne

Listers., We are seeking any connections to the above person or family HELM of Roxburgh, Scotland. This enquiry stems from a friend starting out on the first steps of genealogy research (bless them!). THOMAS HELM was born in Roxburgh (c1841). He, alone, or with his family, travelled to New Zealand where (in maybe 1877) he married Anne Elizabeth MILLER of Victoria. They had ten children including., Jack., Fred., Annie., Thomas., Freda., Sam., Lucy., Angus., Harry and Andrew Barton HELM, from whom our friend descends. Andrew was the youngest born in 1900 in Mataura and was the grandfather of our friend. If anyone has a connection with HELM of Roxburgh we would delight in sharing information. Kind regards Dave

Dear list, I am new to this list and have joined in the hope that I may be able to find out what part of Scotland my ancestor Andrew Hunter FINLAYSON came from. I have exhausted the IGI, Scots Origins and Tasmanian Archives. I have his marriage certificate (where he was married in London), father's name (Robert) and approximate age (born 1815 - 1822). I had 3 close calls on the IGI and Scots Origins but all 3 (from Newton, Penecuik and Dunblane) have all proved NOT to be my man. Can anyone tell if there are still parts of Scotland that the IGI and Scots Origins don't have birth records for? Any other advice on how to find MY MAN would be much appreciated. Thank you in anticipation Kay Podmore ===== Best wishes Kay Podmore Bensville NSW Australia _____________________________________________________________________________ http://messenger.yahoo.com.au - Yahoo! Messenger - Voice chat, mail alerts, stock quotes and favourite news and lots more!

SEARCHING FOGO family from Lanark Glasgow - 1890's wish to make contact with anyone who knows someone with the surname FOGO - will be visiting Scotland in September and would like to see if they are related - jeanette lane - Melbourne - Australia - [email protected]

Anyone have any info re: Selina Corbett, Married Thomas Ferguson Children: Georgina, b. Stirling, m. James Smith, one child, Robert Mary, b. Stirling, m. Robert Cooper, children, Harry, Tom, Nina, Roberta Selina,b. Stirling, m. John Paterson, children, Christina,Tom, Selina, Georgina, John, Alastair Helen, b. Stirling, m. Bob Haddow, one son, Douglas Alice, b. Stirling, m. Ronnie Robertson, children, Fergie, Charlie, Isobel, Dorothy Mathew, b. Stirling, m. ?, no children John, b. Stirling, missing in action, WWI James, b. Stirling, m. Elizabeth Sinclair, children, Winnifred Annie, b. Stirling, m. ?, children, Annie, other name not known Selina, b. Stirling, m. John Alexander Paterson, children, Christina, Tom, Selina, Georgina, John, Alastair Any info re: above would be appreciated. [email protected] net --- --- [email protected] --- EarthLink: It's your Internet.

Kay, Unfortunately, there are many birth records that do not appear in Scots Origins, or the OPR's. Prior to 1855 (Civil Registration started then) Old Parish Records only recorded the births of adherents of the Church of Scotland. If your ancestors were adherents of any other (or no) church - United Presbyterian, Free Church,Methodist, Catholic, whatever, you will have to locate the parish records for those churches, if they are still available. The practice pre-1855 for marriages banns being called, was that regardless of which, if any, church you were an adherent, your banns were called in the local parish of the Church of Scotland. However, any issue from that marriage would only be recorded for adherents of the Church of Scotland. I have the same problem as my ancestors were adherents of the Associated Secessionist (later United Presbyterian). I can find the marriage banns, but no births of any of the children. Very frustrating. You do not mention when he emigrated to Australia. If it was post 1881 you might find some info on him in the 1881 census, which is available on CD which facilitates searching the whole of the U.K. for any particular name. Hope you have good luck. George M. McCaig, Dwight, Ontario, Canada.