Please note that the site mentioned is only dealing with the English and Welsh census. For details on what's happening i Scotland, see http://www.gro-scotland.gov.uk/grosweb/grosweb.nsf/pages/leaflt11 Regards, Grant Buttars ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gites Direct" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, June 08, 2001 3:00 PM Subject: [SCOTS~GEN] 1901 Census on the Internet > The following website link is a pilot for the release of the whole of the 1901 Census, which will be made available on the Internet from the first working day of 2002. The Pilot which is running at the moment consists of the digitised returns for the county of Norfolk from the 1891 Census. > > You can use this site to search the data for details of individuals, addresses, places, vessels and institutions and to view digitised images of the original census documents. > It is a useful source of information for genealogists and local historians. > Searching the database is free and some of the images are free to view, but for others you will need to pay. There's a shock!! > > Click on the following link: http://census.pro.gov.uk/ > > Happy Hunting ~ Kenny > > ______________________________

hello everyone, in the RENFREW OLD PARISH CHURCH on HIGH STREETin RENFREW there are stained glass windows "in memory of Peter MacLaren, L.L.D. Rector of Renfrew Grammar School for 46 years. Born at Dunblane on 1804-1876. " does anyone know how i might find out more about this man? and does anyone know what L.L.D. stands for? i ask as i am trying to find a g.g.g.g uncle, who supposedly was a presbyterian minister for 50 years, somewhere in scotland. since most of the family history handed down has turned out to be factually incorrect but did have some basis of truth, this inscription bears investigation. i am hoping this man has a sister named jane,jean, or jen who was my g.g.g.g.grandmother. can anyone help? thanks, heidi ford

Hello Can anyone tell me the meaning of some markings on a grave stone. My g grandparents are buried in a long disused grave (Ross and Cromarty) and on each side of their stone are much smaller old and weather beaten stones with the following markings. c Mc K As this appears on both stones could this have been a family plot that had not been used, as I do not know of two names with the initials c and I would have expected them to be in capital letters. Hope someone can help Ann Roots

The following website link is a pilot for the release of the whole of the 1901 Census, which will be made available on the Internet from the first working day of 2002. The Pilot which is running at the moment consists of the digitised returns for the county of Norfolk from the 1891 Census. You can use this site to search the data for details of individuals, addresses, places, vessels and institutions and to view digitised images of the original census documents. It is a useful source of information for genealogists and local historians. Searching the database is free and some of the images are free to view, but for others you will need to pay. There's a shock!! Click on the following link: http://census.pro.gov.uk/ Happy Hunting ~ Kenny

Could anyone help me with the 1891 Census please. I am looking for: Stewart Forbes - Aberdeen, Dundee, Forfar, Scotland and Isabella Dick - Ayr, Dundee, Forfar, Scotland. Thanks, Annie Fairchild

Looking for any member of the Rose family who left Scotland for America. Some given names are Nathaniel, Samuel, and John Thanks, Sandra

Hello listers. My ancestor Samuel McKnight, with wife Elizabeth Halliday, and six children - Francis (b1801), Samuel (b1803), William (b1804), Elizabeth (b1806), Jean (b1809) and James (b1810) landed on the Miramichi River near Loggieville/Chatham in New Brunswick, Canada on October 3, 1818, having sailed from Annan, Scotland. They remained on the Miramichi. Samuel was born in Annan, Dumfriessshire in 1777 and Elizabeth was born in Scotland (location unknown) in 1761. All children were born in Annan. Seeking parents and siblings of Samuel McKnight and Elizabeth Halliday and very much welcome any inputs from listers. Many thanks in advance. Jack Cassidy, Ontario, Canada.

There was the 'Disruption of the Church of Scotland' io the 1840s with the Free Church being formed. I don't know if there was a Free Church in Hawick but it is likely. Records may be in the National Archives. Regards, Grant Buttars ----- Original Message ----- From: "BBakenhus" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 9:38 AM Subject: [SCOTS~GEN] Hawick church > Is there an Anglican / C. of E. church in or near Hawick? I cannot > find William SQUAREY who was born 1845 (according to his USA alien > declaration in 1867) in Hawick. I have searched parish records but all > I have been able to find here in Calif were from the Church of > Scotland. William Squarey was Anglican here in the USA and the family > in England was as well. Would people register births or marry across > the border in England? > Beth in Calif > [email protected] > > ______________________________

Have been looking for my grandparents for 30 years now and possibly I've been looking in all the wrong places. Can't find them anywhere in England although that's where my father was born. Can't anyone help in this area. The names are Annie (Ada) Murphy and William Allen. My father was born in 1909 in Woolwich England. Parents possibly came from Scotland. Thanks Bella

Hello lister's This Is Kevin again and I am still trying to knock over my brick wall so here It goes. I have as my oldest person traced in my line as Joshua Miller unknown yrs of birth & death. His eldest son Joshua Miller born circa 1779 married Elizabeth circa 1799, Elizabeth was born circa 1784, Joshua d: 11 Nov. 1851. Joshua & Elizabeth had the following children: John M. Miller (unknown years for him) Elisha Miller (unknown years for him) Anna Miller (unknown years for her) Phoebe Miller (unknown years for her) Robert Miller b: circa 1801 Hannah Miller b: circa 1802 Jacob Miller b: circa 1807 Luton Miller b: April 1809 d: 7/7/1884 Laura B. Miller b: circa 1819 d: 5/4/1896 Joshua was also married to a Rachel they had three children: William Shannon Miller he was born in Markham York Co. Ontario Canada 1823. Sarah Miller she was born in Markham York Co Ontario Canada 1825. David Fitzallen Miller was born in Markham York Co Ontario Canada 1832. Joshua Miller SR. Other son Jacob Miller born circa 1786 d: 28.Oct. 1869. He was married to Phoebe Gould and this couple had 16 children as follows: Avery Miller (unknown yrs for him) Jacob Miller (unknown yrs for him) Alfred Miller (unknown yrs for him) Mary Miller (unknown yrs for her) Robert Miller (unknown yrs for him) Abel Miller 1821-1879 circa John Miller (unknown yrs for him) Warren Miller circa 1825 Martha Miller (unknown yrs for her) Elijah Miller (unknown yrs for him) Nancy Miller (unknown yrs for her) Lorinda Miller (unknown yrs for her) Nathon Miller (unknown yrs for him) Hyram Miller (unknown yrs for him) Joshua Miller (unknown yrs for him). Those are Jacob & Phoebe's children some of these I do have some speculated yrs on so if they look familiar please inquire with me. From what information I have I know my Miller's were from Scotland and I am almost sure that Joshua, Sr. was probably born in Scotland just unsure of where. I also believe that Joshua & Jacob could have been born there to, there is info that also states they were in the Erie Co. NY area around 1801. And then from there they went to the Niagara Falls area then on to settle in Markham twp. York Co. by abt. 1804. Then some of them moved to Genesse Co. Michigan. Michigan is where I am from Midland Co. Michigan. Well, I hope this info trigger's something for someone out there in list land, & thank you in advance for taking the time to read through all of this & any help. Kevin Miller Coleman MI

In article <[email protected]>, Chris Jones <[email protected]> writes >In 1857, Thomas Maclagan married Elizabeth Taylor (no, not that one!) in >BLYTHSWOOD. I tried to find the location on a map, but couldn't. > >Does anyone know where Blythswood is (or was). I am assuming that it is on the >west coast somewhere because of later family connections. > >Chris in Sweden. > Chris, Blythswood is a district in the centre of the city of Glasgow, which is in the west of Scotland as you guessed already. HTH Jill McKenzie, Glasgow http://www.jmckenzie.demon.co.uk Jill's Genealogy Service

In article <[email protected]>, Margaret T Good <[email protected]> writes >Please could some one help with an 1851 census lookup please. >I would like to find Charles Telford who was born in Cockburnspath Sct. >I have no Idea which census covers that area . >In 1851 Charles Telford would have been about 5yrs old.but I would be quite >happy to find any Telfords in that area at that Time >Regards >Margaret Margaret, My 1882 gazetteer says that Cockburnspath is a "village and a coast parish in the N of Berwickshire." Jill McKenzie, Glasgow http://www.jmckenzie.demon.co.uk Jill's Genealogy Service

In article <[email protected]>, Sam and Diane Dinning <[email protected]> writes >Could someone tell me how to access the census for Scotland. Did they do this >every 10 years. I'm interested in finding my grandfather Samuel Alexander >Dinning and great-grandmother Susan (Blackstock) Dinning in Lanark Scotland. >They left Armagh ? and went to Scotland in the Glasgow area. My father Samuel >and two siblings were born in Scotland and moved to Hamilton Canada about 1913. >How much information was given in the census of the time of 1900-1910 > >Sam Dinning >Hamilton Ontario > > Sam, Census records from 1841 onwards give names. There is progressively more information every 10 years. You can search the 1891 census on-line for a fee at http://www.origins.net/ The 1901 census will be available next year. HTH Jill McKenzie, Glasgow http://www.jmckenzie.demon.co.uk Jill's Genealogy Service

Hi listers wondering if anyone can tell me about this place, EASTER NEWLANDS near EAST KILBRIDE. My GGGrandmother Mary Borland was a servant to the Ballantine family there in 1851. Seemingly they owned 80 acres of farm land. I was also wondering if this family may still be in this area. Long shot or what???. Regards William Cooper South Australia

In 1857, Thomas Maclagan married Elizabeth Taylor (no, not that one!) in BLYTHSWOOD. I tried to find the location on a map, but couldn't. Does anyone know where Blythswood is (or was). I am assuming that it is on the west coast somewhere because of later family connections. Chris in Sweden.

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Dears, I am trying find Mr. John Clark ( born +/- 1920 )during WW II he was based in Lochristi near GENT (Belgium) in 1944/45 member of the Gordon Highlanders .I think hi came from GLASGOW or the area. One of his military colleges was W.G.S. HICKMAN id. No. 2865473 Please can you help me? Any information or suggestion to find this person is strongly appreciated. Roland Martens Belgium

Could anyone help me with the 1881 Census: Isabella Grant Dick, Dundee, Scotland. She would have been 7 years old., and Stewart Forbes, Aberdeen or Dundee. He would have been 10 years old at that time.\ Thanks, Annie Fairchild. [email protected] wrote: > Subject: > > SCOTLAND-GENWEB-D Digest Volume 01 : Issue 52 > > Today's Topics: > #1 [SCOTS~GEN] McIlwhinnie, McElhoney [WJ MacKenzie <[email protected]] > #2 [SCOTS~GEN] Census look ups for 18 [=?iso-8859-1?q?Kay=20Podmore?= <mr] > #3 Re: [SCOTS~GEN] - BAXTER ["David Baxter" <[email protected]>] > #4 [SCOTS~GEN] Obtaining Copies of Ce ["Gites Direct" <[email protected]] > #5 [SCOTS~GEN] Cockburnspath 1851cens ["Margaret T Good" <[email protected]] > #6 Re: SCOTLAND-GENWEB-D Digest V01 # ["McCubbin" <[email protected]] > #7 [SCOTS~GEN] Scottish Presbyterian [elmari <[email protected]>] > #8 [SCOTS~GEN] Naughton (McNaughton) [Eileen Connolly <[email protected]] > #9 [SCOTS~GEN] IRON FOUNDARIES, GLASG ["Gites Direct" <[email protected]] > > Administrivia: > SCOTLAND-GENWEB. A mailing list for anyone with an historical > or genealogical interest in Scotland and its' people; to participate > in friendly discussions about almost anything that relates to that > interest. The more information you contribute to the list, the more > you will be helping others and they in turn will reciprocate. Keep > in mind that this list is open to discussions other than pure > genealogical research type questions. The list also exists to > explore our Scottish heritage and all its' inherent characteristics. > Please utilize this list for these topics in addition to genealogy > research. Why not be the first one to submit some interesting > historical information concerning your heritage. © MM > > The preferred method of responding to messages sent to > the mailing list is to send your answer or response back > to the mailing list. 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They may not be copied, reused, resent or > reposted to any other location without the written consent of the > original author. © MM > > Want to leave the list ? > mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe&body=unsubscribe > or > mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe&body=unsubscribe > > The List Manager/Moderator can be reached by sending > mailto:[email protected] © MM > > If you'd like to read all previous messages that have been sent to this > list, go to the archives of the list that are located at: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/SCOTLAND-GENWEB > and: > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=scotland-genweb > and: > http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/index/Scotland.html > > Repeat after me: > We will not initiate a discussion on this list about any kind of virus. > > All messages to the list must be addressed thusly: > [email protected] > > ______________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: [SCOTS~GEN] McIlwhinnie, McElhoney, McIlhainey > Date: Sun, 03 Jun 2001 13:49:18 -0700 > From: WJ MacKenzie <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > > Hello listers, > A while back I remember seeing a posting on one of the lists regarding the McILWHINNIE surname. That was before I knew that my gr-gr-grandfather John O'HARA's sister Jane O'HARA was married to Alexander McILWHINNIE. > I've looked through the archives of this list, but can't find anything. If that McILWHINNIE researcher is on this list could you let me know if you have an O'HARA connection? Thank you. > Win MacKenzie > Victoria, Canada > > ______________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: [SCOTS~GEN] Census look ups for 1891 - please > Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 07:09:43 +1000 (EST) > From: Kay Podmore <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > > Dear List, > > I have just found two addresses in Dundee on a > marriage certificate purchased from Scots Origins. Is > anyone able to do a look up of the 1891 census on the > following addresses please: > > 19 Step Row, Dundee - name of Thomson > 8 Park Terrace, Dundee - name of Mitchell. > > Thank you in advance > > ===== > Best wishes > > Kay Podmore > Bensville NSW Australia > > _____________________________________________________________________________ > http://messenger.yahoo.com.au - Yahoo! Messenger > - Voice chat, mail alerts, stock quotes and favourite news and lots more! > > ______________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: Re: [SCOTS~GEN] - BAXTER > Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2001 17:34:08 -0400 > From: "David Baxter" <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > > NEW TO LIST: Need info. about g.g.g.grandfather WILLIAM BAXTER m.MARY MCVICAR in Scotland UK. near North Knapdale, Argyll. Would like to know date of births, marriage and who WILLIAM'S father and mother was. > Am at a stand still. > > WILLIAM & MARY'S son was JAMES BAXTER, born in 1779 in Glacintober Scotland and d. 1856 in Ayr Ont. Can. > JAMES was christined in North Knapdale, Argyll Scotland on December 5th 1779. > JAMES m. MARGARET MCINTYRE (2nd m.)July 2, 1814 in Staint Ninians, Stirling, Scotland. > Any info. on MARGARET MCINTYRE would also be much appreciated. > > Their children were- > JAMES JR.b.1813 > HUGH b.1818 my g. grandfather > Helen b.1820 > Catherine b. 182 > John. b. 1829 > Charles b. 1830 > William b.unknown > Any information about WILLIAM BAXTER & MARY MCVICAR would be much appreciated. > > R. David Baxter > > ______________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: [SCOTS~GEN] Obtaining Copies of Census Records > Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 08:08:12 +0200 > From: "Gites Direct" <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > > I 'm sorry if my request seems a little naive, but I am very new to geneology. > > I have seen a few list members recently asking for someone to "look-up" a Census entry. Is it possible to obtain copies of Census records for given areas (i.e. Glasgow) via the Internet? If so, where would you obtain them (apart from Scots Origins) and what would the costs be? If they are not available for download is there a body that will email you copies of entries for say the 1891 Census? > > I apologise once more for my ignorance and hope that someone is able to help. > > Best Wishes ~ Kenny ~ A new bug-bitten family searcher. > > ______________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: [SCOTS~GEN] Cockburnspath 1851census Look up please > Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2001 17:13:37 +0800 > From: "Margaret T Good" <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > > Please could some one help with an 1851 census lookup please. > I would like to find Charles Telford who was born in Cockburnspath Sct. > I have no Idea which census covers that area . > In 1851 Charles Telford would have been about 5yrs old.but I would be quite > happy to find any Telfords in that area at that Time > Regards > Margaret > _________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > > ______________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: Re: SCOTLAND-GENWEB-D Digest V01 #51 > Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 06:48:55 -0400 > From: "McCubbin" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]>, <[email protected]> > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2001 4:01 PM > Subject: SCOTLAND-GENWEB-D Digest V01 #51 > > ______________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: [SCOTS~GEN] Scottish Presbyterian Church Records > Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2001 15:09:58 +0100 > From: elmari <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > > >>Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 19:04:48 EDT > >>From: [email protected] > >>To: [email protected] > >>Message-ID: <[email protected]> > >>Subject: [SCOTS~GEN] Presbyterian Church records > >>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > >>Margaret, > >>All Presbyterian Church Records members, marriages, Baptisms, daeths are > >>kept by the local church. In Scotland the Parish keeps the records. There > >>is no central pool of records. > >>The National Presbyterian Church office e-mail or website is www.pcusa.org > >>for history www.history.pcusa.org. > >>The next level of governent in the Presbyterian church is called the > >>Presbytery. The Prebytery oversees an area of churches. It checks the > >>church records every year but does not maintain copies of membership rolls, > >>marriages, death or baptisms in those churches. Linda in Calif. > > Small correction here! Many of the records( such as Kirk Session > records) of the Church of Scotland are now with the Scottish Archives > formerly known as the Scottish Record Office. They are in the Scottish > Archives Office in Princes St., Edinburgh. Also the B.M.&D are with General > Record |Office of Scotland (GROS) > A visit to http://www.nas.gov.uk/ and > http://wood.ccta.gov.uk/grosweb/grosweb.nsf/pages/famrec > will help to show you who has what! > > Hope this helps! > > Elma Richmond, Glasgow, Scotland, U.K. > > ______________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: [SCOTS~GEN] Naughton (McNaughton) > Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 15:06:10 -0400 > From: Eileen Connolly <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > > Renee, > > Have you posted your request to the different Irish county boards? I know > of a few Naughton's in Galway, you would try there. > > Eileen > > ______________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: [SCOTS~GEN] IRON FOUNDARIES, GLASGOW. 1850-1950 > Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 07:46:01 +0200 > From: "Gites Direct" <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > > Does anyone have any information on Iron Foundaries in and around Glasgow from 1850 to 1950? > > I'm trying to trace one of my ancestors who worked in one (according to a Birth Certificate entry) so any names and addresses would be useful. > > Thanks in advance. > > Best Wishes ~ Kenny > [email protected]

Is there an Anglican / C. of E. church in or near Hawick? I cannot find William SQUAREY who was born 1845 (according to his USA alien declaration in 1867) in Hawick. I have searched parish records but all I have been able to find here in Calif were from the Church of Scotland. William Squarey was Anglican here in the USA and the family in England was as well. Would people register births or marry across the border in England? Beth in Calif [email protected]

Does anyone have any information on Iron Foundaries in and around Glasgow from 1850 to 1950? I'm trying to trace one of my ancestors who worked in one (according to a Birth Certificate entry) so any names and addresses would be useful. Thanks in advance. Best Wishes ~ Kenny [email protected]