Hi, I'm new to this list, wonder if anyone can help! I am trying to trace my 3 x gt.grandfather, ROBERT FRAME, he was born abt. 1795 u/k where, he married Isabella ? u/k last name. I feel Robert may have been born in Scotland, he is listed on the 1841 trade directory living in Manchester Lanc. plumber by trade, all his children were born in Manchester. Any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thank you, Brian Ontario Canada

Hi all, am looking for descendants of John and Jean [Armour] McMillan who lived on Gigha marr c 1835 ? where, had children Alexander, Donald,Maissey, William, Janet, John, Mary, Jean and Hector. Has anyone found this family in the 1851 census? Thanks Margaret Pool, NZ

Try http://www.gro-scotland.gov.uk/ It changed a year or so ago. Grant E. L. Buttars London, England (temporarily away from Dundee, Scotland) http://www.taybank.freeserve.co.uk/ ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, July 06, 2001 2:16 PM Subject: [SCOTS~GEN] help with GRO site > The General Register Office for Scotland has just announced a fully > searchabe index for Scottish births and marriages from 1553 to 1897. > To read about it and save for future reference, click on line below. > > > http://www.ancestry.com/columns/myra/Shaking_Family_Tree05-14-98.htm > > Regardless of wether it is new or not, I can't get the web addresses listed > in the article to work= http://.www.open.gov/uk/gros/ > Can anyone out there help me with it? > Thanks so much, > Audrey > Orlando, FL > > ______________________________

What is a Mormaer and where would Athol be. Where would I find information on the Family and ancestry of Duncan. He was the father of Crinan also called Crinan the Thane. Crinan's son Duncan I was murdered by Lady MacBeth. Crinan also had a son Maldred who married Ealdgyth the granddaughter of Aethelred the unready King of Wessex. Ealdgyth's parents were Uhtred the Bold Ealdorman of Northumbria and Aelgifu daughter of Aethelred. Thanks Jacob L. Bateman III or Le NetZero Platinum No Banner Ads and Unlimited Access Sign Up Today - Only $9.95 per month! http://www.netzero.net

Hi Listers Just to update my Austin Research, here are my Austin Interests. James Austin born Govan Glasgow 1896. Father Joseph Austin (1872?)(Birth place Unknown). Mother Ellen Johnston (1874 Antrim Ireland)(died Govan, Glasgow 1904). Grandfather James Austin. Grandmother Annie Hamill. The parents of Ellen Johnston are Henry Johnston and Mary-Ann Boon from Antrim Ireland. I've lost Joseph Austin in Scotland and think he may have been born in Ireland, possibly Antrim. I have a copy of the 1881 Census and also Vital Records for U.K. if anyone needs a search done and would like to hear from anyone with the 1891 census who would be willing to do the same. I am also building a website dedicated to the name Austin and would like to hear from anyone who would like their details added to the site. The cost is: Copies of any U.K. records on CD-Rom or other electronically means which will also be added to the website as a searchable database. Happy Hunting Best Wishes ~ Kenny Austin ~ [email protected]

Hi Researchers, Require some help re finding the family tree (descendens) on "Sir Walter Ogilvy" as there is some thought our "David Ogilvy" may be a descendent of Sir Walter?. So as we are at a standstill trying to locate David's ancestor's there is some thought to try the other way! Can anyone suggest a Web Site or where one may obtain this information? Regards, Colin Darby Australia [email protected] --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.264 / Virus Database: 136 - Release Date: 2/07/2001

Listers, I cannot find any reason to allow anybody access to this website for political propaganda. This person should either be banned, or severely reprimanded for misuse of this site. Steve Smith ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rex H. McTyeire" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2001 3:16 AM Subject: [SCOTS~GEN] 2003 > With the general UK elections behind us as recent history, Scotland enters > perhaps the most important period in its modern history. In the next two > years, decisions will be made and debates raging on the path to be taken > toward the 2003 Scottish Parliament elections; and the actions to be > mandated by that body following the elections. Independence, EU absorption, > taxation, fiscal control, and social services in Scotland all become key > points of interest as Scotland determines the road of its future. A new and > growing discussion list has been established to deal with these questions > and issues from an international and politically non-specific position. The > single biggest obstacles to Scottish Independence are the proliferation of > parties in Scotland, and a UK specific political system. This forum > attempts to bridge those gaps, and add support from Scots world wide, as an > international forum of understanding and interactive communication. Now at > 89 strong and very active, the eList aspires to be the international point > of focus for all Scots issues: past, present, and future impacting on the > Independence issue. Regardless of political affiliation, party membership > or location, If the future of Scotland is a concern; please consider > becoming involved in the debate and resolution of common questions. Join the > action on FreeScots list. Visit and check it out, or stay for the long > haul as historical changes are made in the very definition of Scotland and > Its government. Simply send a blank email from the link below to explore > this free discussion option, and take active part and be heard as Scotland > redefines itself for the first time in three centuries. Be a player and not > an observer..listen in or speak your piece now and join others of all > political persuasions who care about Scotland and are scattered all over > this big world. > > It is also time for American, Canadian, Australian and other expat > descendents to take a part, and show more than just a recognition for a > homeland. Help overcome the distrust of outsiders that prevails in some > regions of Scotland, as apathy and hopelessness threaten to allow external > control to continue in a place called Scotland; a place that Encarta calls > "an administrative region of the UK", and in which poverty has reached > thirty percent of all children under ten. Numbers count in support: Busy > people should consider "daily digest" or "web only/no mail" access, as the > mail traffic can be heavy at times, and contentious attitudes rear up often > :-). 3,500 messages in five months..if it gets too heavy, change format > rather than unsub.., and stick around. It costs nothing to talk, listen, > understand and offer support and identity to the land of our forefathers. > > Slàinte mhath; > Rex H. McTyeire > Moderator: [email protected] > > ______________________________

I have been taking photographs of stones which might be of genealogical interest in some of the towns in Ayrshire. There is a full list of the photographs I have on one of my websites, the address of this one is http://www.headstones.freeserve.co.uk I also have some photo's of headstones in the Necroplis off High St. in Glasgow. If anyone who wants a copy of a particular headstones I'll be happy to email them free of charge All the best, Kenny

> This not free. I don't think it was suggested that it was free

Sorry Mary, but this is not new. It's Scots Origins which has been round for a couple of years now. The article you refer to is dated 1998. Still it's good to remind people that it's available. Regards, Grant E. L. Buttars London, England (temporarily away from Dundee, Scotland) http://www.taybank.freeserve.co.uk/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary Inglis" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2001 9:30 AM Subject: [SCOTS~GEN] Scottish births and marriage indexes on-line > The General Register Office for Scotland has just announced a fully > searchabe index for Scottish births and marriages from 1553 to 1897. > To read about it and save for future reference, click on line below. > > > http://www.ancestry.com/columns/myra/Shaking_Family_Tree05-14-98.htm > > ______________________________

Thank you for one of the best sites on the web

The General Register Office for Scotland has just announced a fully searchabe index for Scottish births and marriages from 1553 to 1897. To read about it and save for future reference, click on line below. > http://www.ancestry.com/columns/myra/Shaking_Family_Tree05-14-98.htm Regardless of wether it is new or not, I can't get the web addresses listed in the article to work= http://.www.open.gov/uk/gros/ Can anyone out there help me with it? Thanks so much, Audrey Orlando, FL

Searching for ggg grandfather's family..he was Alexander HUNTER born 1749 in Scotland. Appears to have remove to America without family and made residence in Massachusetts. He fought in the Revolutionary War as both a Mariner and Soldier 1776-80. Charlie Hunter MAss, USA

Hi, I have just received information that an eldery lady who is related to me might still be alive & living in St.Andrews. She would be about 80 years old & her name would be Ella Taylor. I'm not even sure if she is married but this was her maiden name & she had lived in Southern Rodesia for many years before returning to Scotland. If anyone on the list lives near St.Andrews could you advise me how to track this lady down - if she is still alive.- Any information would be appreciated. Please contact me direct at the above email address. S.Cunningham GUELPH ONT.CDA

With the general UK elections behind us as recent history, Scotland enters perhaps the most important period in its modern history. In the next two years, decisions will be made and debates raging on the path to be taken toward the 2003 Scottish Parliament elections; and the actions to be mandated by that body following the elections. Independence, EU absorption, taxation, fiscal control, and social services in Scotland all become key points of interest as Scotland determines the road of its future. A new and growing discussion list has been established to deal with these questions and issues from an international and politically non-specific position. The single biggest obstacles to Scottish Independence are the proliferation of parties in Scotland, and a UK specific political system. This forum attempts to bridge those gaps, and add support from Scots world wide, as an international forum of understanding and interactive communication. Now at 89 strong and very active, the eList aspires to be the international point of focus for all Scots issues: past, present, and future impacting on the Independence issue. Regardless of political affiliation, party membership or location, If the future of Scotland is a concern; please consider becoming involved in the debate and resolution of common questions. Join the action on FreeScots list. Visit and check it out, or stay for the long haul as historical changes are made in the very definition of Scotland and Its government. Simply send a blank email from the link below to explore this free discussion option, and take active part and be heard as Scotland redefines itself for the first time in three centuries. Be a player and not an observer..listen in or speak your piece now and join others of all political persuasions who care about Scotland and are scattered all over this big world. It is also time for American, Canadian, Australian and other expat descendents to take a part, and show more than just a recognition for a homeland. Help overcome the distrust of outsiders that prevails in some regions of Scotland, as apathy and hopelessness threaten to allow external control to continue in a place called Scotland; a place that Encarta calls "an administrative region of the UK", and in which poverty has reached thirty percent of all children under ten. Numbers count in support: Busy people should consider "daily digest" or "web only/no mail" access, as the mail traffic can be heavy at times, and contentious attitudes rear up often :-). 3,500 messages in five months..if it gets too heavy, change format rather than unsub.., and stick around. It costs nothing to talk, listen, understand and offer support and identity to the land of our forefathers. Slàinte mhath; Rex H. McTyeire Moderator: [email protected]

Hello All: I recently launched a STOTT Family Tree website. It focuses on my line of Yorkshire-based Stotts but it also includes a growing volume of information that can be useful to Stott family historians including those who have roots in SCOTLAND. The good soul who has provided a huge compilation of Stott births, marriages and deaths as well as Stotts in Scotland in the 1881 British Census is Vija Tate whose husband, Bob Stott, has Scottish roots. So, if you're a Scot Stott, visit www.stottshot.com . Vija would like to hear from you if you do find some useful information or a link. Her e-mail address is on the website. Again, I do not have Scottish ancestry with my Stott ancestry, however, I do have Scottish roots with GRAY, CORBETT AND DOW, all who resided in Aberdeen for varying lengths of time during the 1800's. Information on these family lines is on my website. Hope the Stott website is useful to some of you. Regards Greg Stott Toronto, Canada [email protected] This message has also been posted on the Aberdeen and Scotland Roots lists. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.256 / Virus Database: 129 - Release Date: 5/31/01

This not free. -----Original Message----- From: Mary Inglis <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Wednesday, July 04, 2001 12:19 PM Subject: [SCOTS~GEN] Scottish births and marriage indexes on-line >The General Register Office for Scotland has just announced a fully >searchabe index for Scottish births and marriages from 1553 to 1897. >To read about it and save for future reference, click on line below. > >> http://www.ancestry.com/columns/myra/Shaking_Family_Tree05-14-98.htm > > >==== SCOTLAND-GENWEB Mailing List ==== >Want to leave the list ? >mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe&body=unsu bscribe >or >mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe&body=unsu bscribe > >

Robert de Nevill was the son of Geoffrey de Nevill, and Joan de Monmouth, daughter of John. Geoffrey was the son of Robert fitz Maldred and Isabell de Neville Why did he not just call himself after the Scots naming mac Robert mac Maldred. He did have a Scots name after all did he not. His ancestor Crinan mac Duncan did. Le NetZero Platinum No Banner Ads and Unlimited Access Sign Up Today - Only $9.95 per month! http://www.netzero.net

The General Register Office for Scotland has just announced a fully searchabe index for Scottish births and marriages from 1553 to 1897. To read about it and save for future reference, click on line below. > http://www.ancestry.com/columns/myra/Shaking_Family_Tree05-14-98.htm

Subject: Kerr Family > Has any list member in their researching found a Thomas Kirkpatrick Kerr b. > 1821??......Father was William Kerr a Clerk on his marriage certificate 1851 > and still living..... > Thomas was a Tea Dealer and travelled to Honiton Devon before 1841 found on > Honiton Cencus, and lists his place of birth as Scotland through to 1891 > cencus died 1904 . > His employer in Honiton was from Kirkudbright area and had several young men > from Scotland in his shop over the years ..... > Thomas had his own shop in the High Street Honiton from 1851?? > untill his death in 1904.... > If anyone can help in any way as to finding his birth place in Scotland i > would be greatfull...... > Cliff Kerr > Australia >