In message <20041115021455.02EB842E1B@mail.netspace.net.au>, Michaela Morgan <michaela1@netspace.net.au> writes Michaela, I have looked over both your postings on this list, but I doubt if the 1871 census would help you out too much anyway, as I'm sure Anne's birthplace is likely to be given as England. As you know her parents names I plugged them into the LDS web-site - searching for parents Thomas FENWICK and Ann KEPPLE, only to get no children found to a couple of these names. I took Ann KEPPLE's surname out and came up and narrowed the time period to 1830-1850 - which returned only 10 possibilities: 1. WILLIAM FENWICK - International Genealogical Index Gender: Male Birth: 08 JUL 1833 2. WILLIAM FENWICK - International Genealogical Index Gender: Male Christening: 11 AUG 1833 Gorbals, Lanark, Scotland 3. WILLIAM PEASE FENWICK - International Genealogical Index Gender: Male Christening: 24 JUN 1836 Bedale, Yorkshire, England 4. HENRY FENWICK - International Genealogical Index Gender: Male Christening: 27 JAN 1850 Saint Pauls, Newcastle Upon Tyne, Northumberland, England 5. JANE ELIZABETH FENWICK - International Genealogical Index Gender: Female Christening: 06 JUL 1833 Thornton Steward, Yorkshire, England 6. THOMAS FENWICK - International Genealogical Index Gender: Male Christening: 09 JUN 1841 Hutton Magna, Yorkshire, England 7. RALPH FENWICK - International Genealogical Index Gender: Male Christening: 16 APR 1843 Hutton Magna, Yorkshire, England 8. RICHARD FENWICK - International Genealogical Index Gender: Male Christening: 30 MAY 1838 Hutton Magna, Yorkshire, England 9. RICHARD FENWICK - International Genealogical Index Gender: Male Christening: 30 NOV 1845 Hutton Magna, Yorkshire, England 10. MARGARET FENWICK - International Genealogical Index Gender: Female Christening: 10 JUN 1849 Felton, Northumberland, England I don't know much about English records, but it seems only the husbands surname was normally recorded - which makes life a little more difficult! As the couple went to ZA, then you will not have the opportunity to look to death records for them - which would have helped! William Barbour was married to Ann Purves: WILLIAM BARBER Male Family Spouse: ANN PURVES Family Marriage: 13 MAR 1842 Haddington, East Lothian, Scotland Messages: Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the marriage date. Source Information: Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type: M117099 1820 - 1854 1067848, 1067849 Film 6901333 Film Sheet: 00 - again from LDS web-site - only 1 child is attributed to the marriage: 1. WILLIAM BARBER - International Genealogical Index Gender: Male Birth: 21 DEC 1856 Haddington, East Lothian, Scotland - which fits in with the family you have in 1881. You should be able to look up births for this couple after this period at: http://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/ Happy (ancestor) hunting, John (my only interest was Kinross & Clackmannan!) >Hi All, > >I am trying to pin down a place of birth for Ann FENWICK who was born in >ENGLAND according to the 1881 census. > >I have the following from the 1881 census: > >Dwelling: Broad Street >Census Place: Alloa, Clackmannan, Scotland >Source: FHL Film 0203534 GRO Ref Volume 465 EnumDist 8 Page 5 > >John BARBOUR M 39 M Whitelaw, Haddington Head Railway Agent >Ann BARBOUR M 41 F England Wife >William BARBOUR 14 M Portobello, Edinburgh Son Telegraph Messenger >Thomas Fuwick (should be Fenwick) BARBOUR 13 M Portobello, Edinburgh, >Son Telegraph Messenger >Annie BARBOUR 10 F Kinross Dau Scholar >John BARBOUR 8 M Kinross Son Scholar >Mary BARBOUR 6 F Devon, Clackmannan Dau Scholar >Alice Muncie (should be Minnie) BARBOUR 2 F Alloa, Clackmannan, Dau > > >The birth certificate for Annie BARBOUR on 14/6/1870 gives the address as >Smith Street, Kinross; and the birth certificate for John BARBOUR on >27/5/1872 gives the address as Main St, Kinross. Can anyone check >these addresses for the 1871 census to find this family? > > > >Thanks > > >Michaela Morgan >Hobart, Tasmania, Australia > >______________________________ -- John Gibson Chalmers - john@dgnscrn.demon.co.uk ... also at john.chalmers@us.abb.com Homepages ... http://www.dgnscrn.demon.co.uk/ and ... http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~chalmers/