all names changes to protect the inocent and can be used by and adapted for all dna project managers QUOTE][i]Originally posted by [/i] [B]Roy: We have one person in our Farrell family surname project who not only does not carry the Farrell surname, but is the product of two name changes and adoptions. I did ask him in some detail why he thought he was a Farrell, and he was able to satisfy me that he probably is a Farrell by direct male line descent so he is in. Ordinarily I wouldn't care, but if he wasn't a Farrell at all, his results would skew the project, and we have enough different lines as it is, just limiting to Farrell surnames. We are waiting for his results right now. J Denning Farrell Surname Project [/B][/QUOTE] Lets forget the fact that all names didnt start in one time slot and space and cover everyone what we have here is a tree this tree grew for xxxxx years with out names just sons of then names came and for whatever reasons branches in the tree took names. kind of like splicing in branches . the gardener was quite adept at splicing you may have a elm trunk but the branches are oak maple and spruce. not to be out done the gardiner did apple cherry even orange. you may not like it it may seem alittle unseemly but he did alot of these strange conglomerants. when pushed for a name one he names Denning another Farrell and yet another Carroll. in time as this treee grew all the splices took some became more prosperous then others but they all added character and special qualities unexpeced in the beginning , Some of these where from experiances in locations other interactions with other trees many found different qualities in the same trees did better in different suroundings in northern climate s the elm maple and apples did well. in southern areas oranges cherries flourished xxxx amount of years latter the seeds are the same no matter where. the tree grows and changes but the base qualities inserted by the gardiner remain. like all things it adapt and reacts but its still the Farrell tree we can only sit back and admire it and its survivability The use of DNA is to establish which branch you are on what part of the tree Jim Denning Chelsea,Ma.-Woburn,Ma.-denning-dennen-danin-dinan-dinihey-denningston-dinning- carlon-carroll-dever-cogan-malone-heslin-piscopo-mazzola-martini-farrell-mchug h-farley-grimes-lynch-doherty-SanDanto,Ita-Adargh,longford-Revere,Ma-Wintrop,M a.-sprague- and ever growing list