This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Phibbs, Fibbs, Wardrope, Gardner Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.co.uk/mbexec/msg/rw/EgC.2ACE/9984.1.1.1 Message Board Post: The IGI has the marriage of a Matthew PHIBBS and an Elizabeth WARDROPE in about 1845 in Kilsyth, Stirlingshire. It states that Matthew was born in 1820 in Kilsyth. It gives Elizabeth's parents as Simon WARDROPE and Marion GARDNER. The children of Matthew and Elizabeth are given as: James, 25 Sept 1856 William, 6 Aug 1849 Marion, 7 March 1852 Matthew, 10 Dec 1854 all born in Kilsyth. This looks likely to be your Matthew. Why were the children on their own in 1861?