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    1. Re: Malcolm/Calum MacIntyre, b. 1625?, Argyll
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/EgC.2ACE/6099.2.1 Message Board Post: Looking for a Jean or Jane Vise Mc/MacIntyre Born Abt. 1784-86 Argyll, Islay Scotland??? Thanks Tami

    10/13/2004 06:15:50
    1. Re: Bob/Robert GRINTER
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Grinter Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/EgC.2ACE/10165.1 Message Board Post: A quick search of the 1881 Census for Scotland found nobody at all with the surname GRINTER.

    10/13/2004 05:48:18
    1. Bob/Robert GRINTER
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/EgC.2ACE/10165 Message Board Post: Hello, I'm searching for a relative of mine, Bob/Robert GRINTER. In 1891 census he shows up living in Southwark London, married to a woman called Mary A who lists her birth place as Scotland. He lists his age as 48, she as 52. I would be ever so grateful if anyone knows more about Bob and Mary, (they are not on some earlier census returns in England and I wondered whether they lived in Scotland for a while. thanks, sincerely, beki grinter

    10/13/2004 12:38:31
    1. Re: Alexander-Swann Fraser, William Fraser, Mary Ann [Swan] Fraser
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/EgC.2ACE/6128.2.1 Message Board Post: No, bummer! To the best of my knowledge no one has done my Fraser lineage. Although, I have had quite a bit of the Swans forwarded to me by a cousin, who seems to have disappeared...his loss. I am in the process of getting started on it. I am paying the registrar in Inverness to check out some death certs, but she is very slow and the costs are abysmal for the little I am getting. Then she ups and goes on holidays. If you have access to local "stuff" at a more reasonable cost, that would be a godsend for sure. My Katie Fraser of Nairn, married a Lauchlan John Dempster of Newton St. Boswells, in the south, and moved to Canada. Katie had an aunt in Protobello and he the newly weds were in service there before coming to Canada. Here is the letter sent to the researcher in Inverness: "Dear Mme: Some time ago, I contacted your good office to request help in finding some information on John Fraser and his wife Janet or Jessie Fraser married on, or having their marriage registered on, June 29, 1849, in Petty, Invernesshire, Scotland. I shall recall the basic contents: Their names were had from my g-grandmother's marriage certificate...Mary Ann Swan [b. June 16, 1863/ Branderburgh ... registered, b. June 20, 1863, in Drainie; Reg'n signed by Al Wiseman//d. September 19, 1946; Toronto, Ontario, Canada] and William Fraser [b.c. 1851, d.c. 1911, both of Nairn, Nairnshire/Invernesshire, Scotland] m. August 03, 1888, "The Church at Inverness," Invernesshire, Moray, Scotland. Mary Ann moved to Canada shortly after William's death. My notes on the Frasers of Nairn are as follows...you may be able to glean more clues from this content: this is the group that I am interested in at this time: FRASERS OF NAIRN: John Fraser, Jessie Fraser, their son William Fraser: John's and Jessie's parents, any siblings of John and Jessie, any siblings of William... John and Jessie the parents were first cousins. To whom it may concern: I would be grateful for any assistance in regards to: 1] the three persons noted in the first line of the letter I received, herein, 2] any information on any connected familial lines [vertically or horizontally in the tree] that you are able to uncover, from the documents that you have on hand, 3] suggestions, as to further sources of research material, and 4] any missing information from the two entries. I am the g-g-grandson of John Fraser and Jessie Fraser. Any information, from any source would be helpful. re: their parents, their respective family backgrounds, families, siblings, etc.. If there is useful information via your services, please contact me via e-mail as to what, and exact related costs. and/or fax [Faxes of copies of documents may be attached to my e-mail address at b1caez01@cogeco.ca as an attachment. eFax Number: [1] 253-541-1113. Numbers outside Canada or the U.S. must add a 1 at the first.] To assist you in your efforts, I am including some notes as to my Family Tree entries, related to the persons in question. This letter was forwarded to me by a person who was only able to assist to this point. I am not interested in copies of original documents that would cost me repeating amounts of money everytime the records were accessed. That is to say, I am not interested in paying for more than one trip to the vault, when one trip may all that is needed. I am willing to pay for copied of such documents as would be found on a single visit if it is economical for me to do so... . I am only interested in accessing the information, not the documents. "William is the son of John Fraser and Jessie Fraser. My friend got back with the marriage extract: Ref No.. 1888 98 79 3rd August 1888 Queen Street, Inverness. Banns according to the Church of Scotland. William Fraser, House painter, journeyman, Bachelor 37 years, living High Street, Nairn. TO: Mary Ann Swan, Domestic Servant, Spinster age 24 years, High Street, Nairn. William: Father: John Fraser, Carter (deceased)/Mother: Jessie Fraser ms Fraser Mary Ann: Father: Daniel Swan, Seaman merchant Service/Mother: Mary Swan ms Allan (deceased) Married by Gavin Lang. Witnesses: Barbara Corbett and Peter McGillivray From the above information you should be able to obtain the death certificates of both of Williams parents. Now we know William was born c 1851. Compulsory registration began in 1855, so you should get John's death. Jessie was still alive in 1888, so it is a question of finding the two deaths. I did the following: If you write to: Chief Registrar, Faraline Park, Inverness, IV1 1NH and explain that Jessie Fraser, wife of John Fraser, Carter, was alive in 1888 they will do a search for you. You will have to pay a fee for the certificates, but I am not certain what the charge is, at the moment. I really don't think that George Fraser and Margaret have any relationship to William, but it is worth hanging onto. You never know someone out there might "own" that family!!! When I checked the 1881 Census I tried for a William Fraser over a period of 15 years born in Inverness to see where they turned up as a single man, and the William in Nairn, was the only one that fit the scenario. There is no getting away from the fact that William was the son of John Fraser and Jessie Fraser and is the William in the 1891 Census for Nairn. When I am able, I will check the census again and ask the genealogist in Inverness what he makes of the age of William. Sometimes helps to get another opinion!!! Regards, Elizabeth" Nothing is known of Donald at this point. There is mention of a Norman Fraser, who signed a letter of sympathy, sent to Mary Ann, on the death of William. William was a house/ship painter as per the title of the craft Guild he belonged to: "Scottish Amalgamated Society of House and Ship Painters." Much research has been done on this group. The "Source" for filed archived materials, though, denies having them on file. That source was contacted following an "on line" search for the materials. William was apparently a resident of Nairn, Scotland. He, along with the Swans and Frasers, lived in the immediate vicinity of each other. The Frasers lived on Acre St., William lived at 18 Acre. The Swans lived on High St., right around the corner. Acre St. [a close] is a short adjunct and parallel street to High St.. Either Donald or Norman, lived on Acre St. as well, just a few doors away. My grandmother, Katie Fraser-Dempster died in 1969, so I am well acquainted with some of the foregoing details, personally. But, I began my inquiries with her, too late in her life and in mine, to have been able to glean much from her memories. Her father was said to have been a house painter. A letter sent to Mary Ann, "grannie's mother," shortly after the death of her father, William, is quoted below. The genealogist will find may references to important data therein. Spelling, grammar and punctuation has been corrected for the purposes of this entry [there was not much to do, Norman, the author, appears to be a well educated man]. But his relationship to the family is another mystery that needs solving. There does not appear to be any record of him in the Mormon archives, commonly called the IGI, held at their Family Search Centres. "Nairn Branch Scottish Amalgamated Society of House and Ship Painters 8 Acre St., Nairn, 13th Mar 1907 Dear Mrs. Fraser, At the ordinary meeting of above society, held on Monday night, I was instructed by the members to convey to you and your family, an expression of their heartfelt sympathy in your great affliction. We received your note of 25th [?], intimating your husband's illness, but at that time had not prepared ourselves to believe that we should so soon lose one so valued amongst us. We can pay a very high tribute to the memory of your late husband, as a member of our society, he being always so regular in attendance, ambitious, honest, and gentlemanly while conducting business, indeed a credit to our branch. We trust that your health has not been materially affected in this great trial and hope that you and your family, at this time, may receive every kindness at the hands of all sympathizers. With kind sympathy, wishing you every comfort in your affliction, I am on behalf of the above branch yours very sincerely Norman Fraser. Secretary" No other references are available for Norman Fraser, at this time, but they would be helpful to have, if it could be shown that he was a family member. William Fraser, son of Donald Fraser, married Mary-Ann Swan on August, 03, 1888. They were married in the Church of Inverness a few miles to the west of Nairn. William's family lived in the Acre St.-High St. area. An address of 18 Acre St. is referred to in the records, but it is unclear as to whether William's parents lived there, as their home, or that this was William's and Mary Ann's home. At present an Ian Fraser lives there. Yours, most sincerely, and hopefully, Al ================================================ I would be more than happy to share any info I have in exchange for some positive feedback. It is scant but substantive in its own right. Let me know off list at the following private address, which I do not want on any lists on the internet to curb spam and virui. b1caez02@cogeco.ca St. Catharines, Ontario, Canada

    10/12/2004 06:25:12
    1. Re: Bowden Family Line
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/EgC.2ACE/4934.4979.1 Message Board Post: Mike, do you have any information on James McShane (spouse of Mary Boden/Bowden) or his parents / ancestors?

    10/12/2004 04:37:29
    1. Re: [SCOTLAND] Re: STEVENSON/COCHRAN
    2. > I am also related to this line of Stevenson's although had very little information on Scotland, so this will be exciting. My computer is "dead" at the moment with my genealogy program, so I will contact you when I have access to my information again. > From: amroche1@aol.com > Date: 2004/10/11 Mon AM 02:50:49 EDT > To: SCOTLAND-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [SCOTLAND] Re: STEVENSON/COCHRAN > > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Classification: Query > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/EgC.2ACE/10103.1 > > Message Board Post: > > I am a descendant of their daughter Margaret (Maggie) Stevenson who married Robert Alexander McClelland. James Stevenson worked on Elizabeth Cochran's father's sheep farm in Ayrshire, Dunlap Parish, Scotland. When they married, she was disinherited. I didn't know about a daughter Anna, but yes, there was a son Robert who was born 21 Jan 1861. He died 24 Oct 1880 while traveling throught western Kansas with his sister Eliza Jane. He had respiratory problems and they were on their way to Colorado for treatment. I have more information on James and Elizabeth's children if you would like, as well as exact dates for James and Elizabeth. You can reach me at amroche1@aol.com. > > > ==== SCOTLAND Mailing List ==== > To contact the list administrator, or to unsubscribe, or to view > the list archives, or for other information about this list, visit the > list web page at http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/SCT/SCOTLAND.html > > ============================== > You can manage your RootsWeb-Review subscription from > http://newsletters.rootsweb.com/ > >

    10/12/2004 03:23:13
    1. Re: [SCOTLAND] LIST FOR NEWTON - SCOTLAND
    2. Jill McKenzie
    3. In article <000401c4b08a$11da2160$374127c4@mark>, barkerma@absamail.co.za writes >Hi - can anyone please tell me if there is a similar list for the area, >Newton? I would like some advise about my 5th great grand parents who were >married in Newton on 23 Mar 1832 - I would like to know how to go about >getting info/certificate so that I can possibly find out dates of >birth/parents names etc. > >kindest regards from South Africa > >Mark Barker > Mark, There's a number of Scottish lists covering various areas - but there's also a number of places called Newton! Have you got any more information on whereabouts in Scotland this Newton is? What's your source of information? If you're still not sure, you might be able to work backwards on the IGI (if their marriage has been included) at <http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/frameset_search.asp> Search for them and see what comes up? Jill McKenzie, Glasgow

    10/12/2004 02:57:19
    1. LIST FOR NEWTON - SCOTLAND
    2. Hi - can anyone please tell me if there is a similar list for the area, Newton? I would like some advise about my 5th great grand parents who were married in Newton on 23 Mar 1832 - I would like to know how to go about getting info/certificate so that I can possibly find out dates of birth/parents names etc. kindest regards from South Africa Mark Barker

    10/12/2004 02:18:34
    1. Relation of McGettricks to Clan Maxwell
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Maxwell Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/EgC.2ACE/10164 Message Board Post: I recently began researching the Irish family surnames in my history, one of which is “McGettrick”. The information I have obtained about this name todate is that the surname is almost exclusively a County Sligo variation of the Ulster Province surname of MacKittrick, which, itself, has a number of variant spellings. Further research led me to the internet site for electricscotland.com, where I learned that “Mackittrick” is one of the septs of Clan Maxwell, and that one of the families associated with the Clan is MacGettrick. It also appears that all of the variant spellings of these family names have the same source, the Viking name “Sitric”. My father always referred to the McGettricks as the “Scots-Irish”. In light of the similarity of the Sligo Irish McGettrick to the Clan Maxwell associated family name of MacGettrick, would the McGettricks of County Sligo also be a family associated with the Clan, and does anyone have any suggestions how I might be able to establish that they are an associated family? Further, when a family is “associated” with a Clan, does that mean that the family is a part of the Clan, with respect to the wearing of the Tartan and Clan badges, etc.? Thanks for any help on this. Robby

    10/12/2004 12:52:52
    1. Re: James Warnock, b. about 1573
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/EgC.2ACE/10163.1 Message Board Post: Try the Ulster Historical Foundation (a charity) - see http://www.ancestryireland.co.uk/

    10/11/2004 06:26:25
    1. Re: Alexander-Swann Fraser, William Fraser, Mary Ann [Swan] Fraser
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/EgC.2ACE/6128.2 Message Board Post: I belileve we are related way in the past. Did you family put in a claim for the Lovat title and lands?

    10/11/2004 04:22:21
    1. Re: Birth,Death date on a Alexander Baillie
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/EgC.2ACE/10156.1.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Hi, If the www.familysearch.org does not come up, just type it in up at the top of your searches. Elinor.

    10/11/2004 09:18:00
    1. Re: Birth,Death date on a Alexander Baillie
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/EgC.2ACE/10156.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Hi, If you go to the website http://www.familysearch.org, Then click for ancestors, Then on the left, International Genealogical Index Under Father, first and last name Under Mother, first and last name Leave everything else blank but, Region-British Isles, Country-Scotland then click Search. That will bring up all the children. Elinor.

    10/11/2004 09:14:21
    1. Re: Finlayson
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Finlayson Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/EgC.2ACE/10160.1.1 Message Board Post: I found Isabella's name on her daughter Elizabeth's death certificate. Elizabeth was 71 when she died in 1881, therefore I have assumed she was born around 1810. This makes me assume Isabella and Robert were married in the early 1800's or late 1700's. Another researcher gave me information of Elizabeth's birthplace as being Redgorton, but I have not confirmed this yet. Thanks, Lilian

    10/11/2004 05:31:47
    1. James Warnock, b. about 1573
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: WARNOCK Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/EgC.2ACE/10163 Message Board Post: Recent source says that this ancestor was the oldest of 3 brothers and that he was born about 1573 in the Dumfriesshire area. He and his brothers left Scotland as part of the Ulster Plantation migration. Any info on how to find records this old will be greatly appreciated!

    10/11/2004 04:01:08
    1. John & Katie McMasters Smith
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: SMITH, McMasters Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/EgC.2ACE/10162 Message Board Post: I am looking for information on John & Katie McMasters Smith who had two sons Samuel & William that went to America around 1797 and settled in Westmorland County, PA

    10/11/2004 03:33:35
    1. McCubbins
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/EgC.2ACE/10161 Message Board Post: I have Gleason McCubbin's books, and have been searching since 1982, and have a lot of info. Don't know if I can help, but will try. Need more info. Write to me at. maryc313@comcast.net.

    10/11/2004 02:35:44
    1. Re: STEVENSON/COCHRAN
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/EgC.2ACE/10103.1 Message Board Post: I am a descendant of their daughter Margaret (Maggie) Stevenson who married Robert Alexander McClelland. James Stevenson worked on Elizabeth Cochran's father's sheep farm in Ayrshire, Dunlap Parish, Scotland. When they married, she was disinherited. I didn't know about a daughter Anna, but yes, there was a son Robert who was born 21 Jan 1861. He died 24 Oct 1880 while traveling throught western Kansas with his sister Eliza Jane. He had respiratory problems and they were on their way to Colorado for treatment. I have more information on James and Elizabeth's children if you would like, as well as exact dates for James and Elizabeth. You can reach me at amroche1@aol.com.

    10/10/2004 06:50:49
    1. Re: Finlayson
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/EgC.2ACE/10160.1 Message Board Post: When was the marriage? 20thC? 19thC? 18thC? 17thC? 16thC? earlier?

    10/10/2004 06:04:24
    1. Re: [SCOTLAND] Re: Kennedy, Stewart, Allan, Gray, Cromarty, Banks
    2. Blake
    3. My Kennedys in Canada originated in Scotland and go a long way back. Blake ----- Original Message ----- From: <MzPookie@aol.com> To: <SCOTLAND-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, October 10, 2004 3:48 PM Subject: Re: [SCOTLAND] Re: Kennedy, Stewart, Allan, Gray, Cromarty, Banks >I too have Kennedy's that I am researching in Canada. my earliest known > Kennedy is Joseph c.1817 married to a Mary Parks. > They came to Canada and with one child and had two more after arrival in > the > 1840's The Children where Joseph, Mary, and Fergus > Joseph and Mary where married in the Cumberland area of England but we > think > he may have come down from Scotland. When they settled in Canada it was in > the > area of Upper Canada later becoming the province of Ontario. > If any one can help or has other info on these Kennedy's please let me > know > > > ==== SCOTLAND Mailing List ==== > To contact the list administrator, or to unsubscribe, or to view > the list archives, or for other information about this list, visit the > list web page at http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/SCT/SCOTLAND.html > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > >

    10/10/2004 03:15:22