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    1. Re: [Sc-Ir] Galbraith, Donegal 1660s
    2. Linda Merle
    3. Hi Helen, you might check on a Donegal list where you might hope to find some one who knows where this is published. There are various lists published (I have one for later, right after the Union in a book). They are in the state papers of ireland. You often find them published in articles in periodicals. The best places to find them are the major indexes: Hayes and Smith's Inventories. (See www.rootsweb.com/~bifhsusa for what these are). NIDS is another place to look for them but we usually can't get to NIDS (LDS main library has a copy and the Los Angeles branch library -- check major universities in your area). Check Falley "Irish and Scotch-Irish Ancestral Research". She has a huge chapter on the state papers, mentioning a number of important indexes including the Deputy Keepers reports. SOme of these here in LDS on microfilm: Calendar of the state papers relating to Ireland of the reign of James I : preserved in Her Majesty's Public Record Office and elsewhere Great Britain. Public Record Office Calendar of the state papers relating to Ireland preserved in the Public Record Office [Charles II] Great Britain. Public Record Office Calendar of the state papers relating to Ireland, of the reign of Charles I ... preserved in the Public Record Office Great Britain. Public Record Office Calendar of the state papers relating to Ireland, of the reigns of Henry VIII, Edward VI, Mary, and Elizabeth : preserved in the state paper department of Her Majesty's Public Record Office Great Britain. Public Record Office Index to the public records and state papers of Ireland Microfilm copy of typescript. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Cumulative index to: 55th, 56th and 57th reports of the deputy keeper of the public records and keeper of the state papers of Ireland; and, Appendix to the 26th and 30th reports of the deputy keeper of the public records and keeper of the state papers in Ireland. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Index lacks Cheshier-Fisher and M'Eniry-Proudfoot. ------ Also check history books. I own "Cromwellian Ireland: English Government and Reform in Ireland, 1649-1660" by T C Barnard (Clarendon Press, Oxford, 2000 for paperback edition). It has an immense bibligraphy and extensive footnotes. It is full of interesting things. For example the Irish (English) gov rounded up vagrants and transported them to the West Indies. The foot note lists va rious sources which might contain more info as well as an article in the Irish Historical Studies. These folk, in the West Indies from the mid 1600s, sometimes moved to the mainland. Their descendents find them puzzling: They got Irish surnames and may appear "Scotch Irish"-- ie Protestant, but they may lack an Irish "look and feel". Many Catholic Irish merchant families were exiled at this time too. They were far better at merchanthood than the men that the Interregnum hoped to replace them with (Protestants); hence commerce in Ireland greatly declined due to their loss. Protestants complained continuously about how the remaining ones out-sold them. These families continued to prosper sometimes in the West Indies. Some traded with the major cities on the east coast. One hundred years later, in 1750, they didn't have the look and feel of Irish Catholics but were assimilating into the colonial British ethos. We can sometimes think our families came from Ulster Protestant stock when we actually stem from Galway, Waterford, Dublin, or Cork merchant families. Barnard tells us that the Protestant monopoly on the Irish house of commons was the most spectacular sign of the advance of Protestant power in the Interregnum (1649-1661). (P 71). The footnote isn't helpful, but elsewhere he does reference the state papers of Ireland. You would not want to read through these (you might go postal....), so look for a published list in Hayes or Smith's Inventories. He gives a lot of details of schemes to attract Protestant settlers from England to replace the displaced Catholic middle class. Scottish settlers were NOT desirable because of fear that Scots would be Royalists. During this period Scots in Ireland "laid low" and hoped Cromwell didn't recall they existed. He largely did forget they existed and so he didn't transport them to Tipperary as he intended. Anyway he tells us that they tried to get Protestants to Waterford but few came. He cites contemporary sources showing that Catholics continued to live there. There is a petition of Protestants from 1655...one wonders if they signed it and so we have their names?? IT's at the Christian Brothers' School in Dublin in the Jennings transcripts. Galway was also attempted to be settled but many problems arose since the terms of its surrender to Cromwell made it difficult to disenfranchise the Catholics. After they were expelled it wsa impossible to replace them with Protestants so Galway fell into very bad times due to a lack of trade and commerce. (P 55) Also Cromwell's gov tried to attract Dutch merchants from Rotterdam. They also tried to get settlers from the New England colonies. A few did go. They eventually repopulated it by paying a couple ENglish towns' debts in land in Galway. These were Gloucester and Liverpool. Some people from these towns did come to Ireland but they lacked the capital to restart the economy. Plus they had a bad reputation for being Baptist sympathisers. (p. 57) Cromwell also offered denization to Hugeunots and Dutch families in 1656. A few came, artisans. One major Dutch merchant who came was Isaac van Hoegarden, Kilrush, County Clare. His son was an agent for Laurence de Geer, the Krupp of the seventeenth century. Interesting stuff....most of it is rather boring unless you have an intense interest in the Interegnum period . Your date is critical as that's the year (1661) when the Interegnum ended and the Restoration began. So either your guys fell out of political favor and power that year or they returned to it. Knowing which would help you trace the family history. Linda Merle >> From: "Helen W Hamilton" <hwhamilton2@msn.com> >> Date: 2006/01/08 Sun PM 01:11:54 GMT+13:00 >> To: Scotch-Irish-L@rootsweb.com >> Subject: [Sc-Ir] Galbraith, Donegal 1660s >> >> Would anyone have a a source that lists the M.P.s for Co Donegal in 1661. I >> would like to determine whether it was a Lt. Col. James Galbraith or his >> nephew, Capt. James Galbraith Jr. who was the M.P. in 1661 for Johnstown, >> Co. Donegal. >> I know that the Lt Col was alive in 1637 and that the Capt. was alive after >> 1642. >> I am trying to sort out some discrepancies in data I have for marriages >> between Galbraiths, Sinclairs and Hamiltons mainly in Co. Tyrone for that >> time period, and this information could help. >> Thanks, >> ________________________________________________________________ Sent via the WebMail system at mail.fea.net

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